English Language & Usage: Multi-Layered Discourse Room

Boob

2:02 PM

@RegDwight welcher satz ist grammatikalisch richtig: "ich habe dich vermisst" oder "Du fehlst mir"?

RegDwight

Both.

Boob

Same meaning?

Vitaly

@Kosmonaut: could you please proofread that Short version part of my answer? I really don't want to mislead the asker. Please. Just for this occasion.

RegDwight

@Boob No.

@Kosmonaut There's the OP right there.

Hi @staticrtti.

Boob

@RegDwight Hi

Kosmonaut

2:05 PM

@Vitaly Yes, I would say that short description is an accurate characterization.

Vitaly

@Kosmonaut: Thank you!

RegDwight

@staticrtti: we do have a site that accepts critique questions, but they have to meet some guidelines.

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A: What are the guidelines for asking for a critique of my work?

Are you coming to Writers with a specific question about a specific text you have written? Great. Writers is a community of professional and aspiring writers, editors, agents, and others in the business of writing, and we would love to answer your question. In order for us to be able to succes...

Hah, @Martha beats me to it.

Martha

:p

static_rtti

@Karmanaut: because being interested in the English language, you might know of other sites. Also, some of you might participate in other sites that do proofreading. But no, downmod with no explanation. Thanks a lot for being so nice.

RegDwight

@Martha Why do I even visit meta. Everyone is so keen to answer questions there.

@static_rtti Meta downvotes are different and basically don't mean jack. Relax.

static_rtti

2:13 PM

Thanks to everyone who answered.

RegDwight

(Also, Karmanaut is that guy on Reddit. (^_^))

static_rtti

I spend too much time on reddit :)

RegDwight

I know, what's with "downmod" and all. :P

static_rtti

btw, reading the guidelines from Writers, it don't think they allow proofreading questions. At least, they are not mentioned explicitly.

RegDwight

Well, you can always ask on their meta for clarification first.

static_rtti

2:18 PM

I still disagree downvotes don't mean anything. Downvoting a newcomer without giving an explanation basically means "Get out, we don't like your type in here!".

I wonder if I'll get a better welcome...

RegDwight

Hey now, don't give up on us like that.

It's not like you'd never get a -2 on Reddit.

static_rtti

2:39 PM

Well, they more or less accept proofreading questions, as long as you give it a specific looking title: meta.writers.stackexchange.com/questions/297/…

z7sg

@static_rtti Those guys are notoriously grumpy, they are all failed, bitter writers and they hate the world. Don't let that put you off though.

I mean as long as you get what you need it's all gravy, right?

static_rtti

Well, I guess I'll try :)

Vitaly

@Reg: 10 edits, but it hasn't become CW (yet?).

RegDwight

@Vitaly that number was fabricated out of thin air, as always.

Billare

@static FWIW, I didn't approve of others downvoting your question either. It's very appropriate you chose to ask it beforehand on Meta than posting a question without reading the FAQ.

RegDwight

2:50 PM

I think it's more like 12. Or 16.

Can't be bothered to just check.

Actually, why not.

113

A: What are "Community Wiki" posts?

Why have Community Wiki posts? One of the goals of the website is to be a continually evolving source of good information. Community Wiki posts help enhance the wiki aspect of the site. How do Community Wiki posts work? Community Wiki posts work by transferring ownership of the post from the ...

> The post has been edited ten (10) times by the original owner.

Yours has only been edited 9 times, @Vitaly.

Vitaly

Oh? So it's the number of versions displayed as opposed to the number of edits, so the actual number of edits is 10 (versions) − 1 (the first version) = 9?

RegDwight

Well, the initial version isn't an edit. It's the initial version.

Vitaly

Oh, ok. Thanks.

I think I am satisfied with that post now, and I hope @Billare is too. (Taking into account that the so-called “Short version” managed to fattify.)

Billare

@Vitaly Well, I upvoted your response, so there. =P

Vitaly

XD

RegDwight

2:56 PM

Well, let's see what @pll says. I have a feeling it has to do with his thesis.

Vitaly

Oh, snap.

RegDwight

Mwuahahahahaharharhar!

Vitaly

I really don't want to go through the BNC and COCA at this point. :P

RegDwight

You're not off the hook just yet.

Seriously, this is your own fault. If you don't like work, just go answer some of the "should I use mom or dad in this sentence" questions. It's not like we have a shortage of those.

Vitaly

:D

Boob

3:00 PM

@RegDwight I saw you point your finger at me

RegDwight

Stop smoking that.

Boob

3:11 PM

Atishoo

Vitaly

3:21 PM

????? Searching the BNC seems to indicate that -ate is more frequent than -ise/-ize combined, which contradicts the Longman corpus-based Grammar. Queries used: [*ate].[v*], [*ise].[v*], and [*ize].[v*]. What am I doing wrong?

(It comes off almost twice as frequent…?!?!)

[]is for any forms (-ate, -ated, -ating, etc), * is for wildcard search, .[v*] is for verbs

RegDwight

I'm looking at the results right now.

Vitaly

There can be those non-suffixated verbs like mate though… But I really have no idea how to get rid of them properly

RegDwight

I've just checked your answer again, I'm not sure how COCA contradicts anything you say.

Robusto

@RegDwight: "tunke?"

Vitaly

> the suffix -ify is the least frequently occurring one out of the three verbifying suffixes with which we are concerned here (-ize, -ate, and -ify).

RegDwight

3:29 PM

@Robusto dip.

Vitaly

> -ize is the most popular suffix for verb-formation in Present-day English

Robusto

Danke.

Vitaly

In any case, there is a diagram in the Grammar, which shows just that

Robusto

Cognate of "dunk" I presume. I don't remember that one for some reason.

Vitaly

And this is what I get (per mil, different shades of grey represent different sections of the BNC):

RegDwight

3:31 PM

@Vitaly Well I have no idea which words or forms he has or has not excluded.

Vitaly

RegDwight

Yeah well, I can totally understand how words such as hate are more popular than words such as itemize.

Vitaly

How do I exclude them?

RegDwight

I have no idea.

Vitaly

Drat.

RegDwight

3:33 PM

Perhaps we can ping @JSBangs.

JSBangs

what are you trying to do?

Vitaly

11 mins ago, by Vitaly

????? Searching the BNC seems to indicate that -ate is more frequent than -ise/-ize combined, which contradicts the Longman corpus-based Grammar. Queries used: [*ate].[v*], [*ise].[v*], and [*ize].[v*]. What am I doing wrong?

For this question:

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Q: Suffixes for verbification: -ify, -icise, -ificate

The suffixes -ise/-ize -ify -ificate are all used for verbifying nouns and adjectives. What are the differences in meaning/connotation/usage between them? (This is generalising from the sinification/sinicisation question, and is partially answered by @Garet Claborn’s answer there — an expa...

JSBangs

great answer from @Vitaly on that question, btw. but i'm not sure why we're trying to get the corpus to behave

Vitaly

Trying to: exclude words like hate and mate, because the -ate there is not a suffix.

JSBangs

probably not possible

unless they include derivational metadata that you can filter on

Vitaly

3:35 PM

Ah okay, I guess the asker will have to live with that. :D

RegDwight

And if not, just ask the asker himself. He should be familiar with all the various corpora.

JSBangs

if you had access to the raw data, you could make a filter that checked to see if instances of *ate had a corresponding lexicon entry when you chop of the -ate and replace it with -e

of course hate => he, mate => me

and ablate => able. create => cree ?

obviously this is a terrible idea

RegDwight

Lulz.

JSBangs

better: check if there is an -ation corresponding to the -ate

will create some false negatives, but probably no false positives

RegDwight

state -> station.

JSBangs

3:38 PM

okay fewer false positives

rate => ration

Vitaly

I give up. :)

RegDwight

Stop it already, I'm dying...

JSBangs always has the brightest ideas...

JSBangs

crucially, state/station and rate/ration actually are related to each other

so this is arguably not a false positive

RegDwight

Arguably, hate and he are related, too. Just ask any woman.

Vitaly

The -ate is not a suffix there anyway.

JSBangs

3:41 PM

@Vitaly but it is, sort of! english -ate is how we anglicize verbs from Latin -are, and state < stare, station < statio(nem)

rate < rata, and likewise ration < ratio, which derives from the same stem. but this is not actually a verb in L, so it's at best a half-match

anyway, now i'm going crazy with nonce words in -ation. fate/fation, mate/mation, weight/weightion, skate/skation!

z7sg

just discovered the word oblation

a thing presented or offered to God or a god.

JSBangs

"... to offer the holy oblation in peace..."

to oblate should be a word

anyone who knows what oblation means should be able to figure out what oblate means as well

z7sg

i was coming from oblate as in 'oblate spheroid' which is something completely differnt

when i was blindsided by to oblate/oblation

JSBangs

same Latin root. ob + latus = on - laid. dual meaning even in Latin, mebbe? one meaning "laid out [on an altar]", the other being "lumpy, distorted"

RegDwight

I ate an oblate.

Облатка (кулинария)

Облатка ( − приношение, предложение, дар; в русском через средневерхненемецкий) — тонкий листок выпеченного пресного теста, наподобие вафли. Изготавливаются в виде листка круглой, прямоугольной или иной формы, как правило, с тиснеными изображениями на рождественские темы или христианскими символами. Облатка Сочельника Традиция благословлять в Сочельник Рождества Христова облатку (рождественский хлеб) и делиться ею существует среди ряда католических народов восточной Европы: словаков, поляков, литовцев, украинских католиков (); благодаря польскому влиянию этот обычай популярен и среди ...

JSBangs

3:50 PM

latinlexicon.org/definition.php?p1=1010797. it seems that the geometric meaning is unknown in latin

RegDwight

Oblaten

Oblaten (von lat. oblatum, „dargebracht“) bezeichnet folgende römisch-katholische Ordensgemeinschaften: * Oblaten (OMI), Oblati Mariae Immaculatae, die Missionare Oblaten der unbefleckten Jungfrau Maria, in Deutschland bekannt als Hünfelder Oblaten * Oblaten (OMV), die Oblaten der seligen Jungfrau Maria * Oblaten (OSFS), die Oblaten des hl. Franz von Sales, auch Salesianeroblaten oder Sales-Oblaten genannt * Benediktineroblate, Menschen, die ein benediktinisches Leben führen wollen, ohne selbst in die Gemeinschaft einzutreten * Zisterzienseroblaten, Menschen, die nach den Regeln der Zisterz...

JSBangs

are those used exclusively in the religious sense po-russky, or are they broader in those sprache?

RegDwight

It depends on whether you ask my mom or my wife.

z7sg

@JSBangs dictionary says the geometric meaning was created from 'prolatus' which comes from 'profero' in the sense 'extend, thrust out'

JSBangs

@z7sg then why isn't it a prolate spheroid?

z7sg

3:54 PM

I don't really understand how Latin works though.

Prolate means the ends thrust out instead of squished.

RegDwight

IIRC my wife insists there is no such word. Or something.

JSBangs

maybe the geometric oblate derives from the religious sense, meaning originally something like "wafer-like"

RegDwight

And then there's always that other stuff.

Гостия

Го́стия (хостия, происходит от — «жертва») — евхаристический хлеб в католицизме латинского обряда, а также англиканстве и ряде других протестантских церквей. Используется во время литургии для таинства Евхаристии. В католических храмах уже освящённые гостии, ставшие Святыми Дарами, помещаются в дарохранительницу, располагаемую либо за алтарём, либо в боковом приделе храма. Гостии — опресноки, выпекаются из пресного теста, состоящего исключительно из муки и воды. Для их изготовления используются специальные формы с рельефными изображениями креста и других христианских символов, благодаря ...

Die Hostie.

JSBangs

right, english "host" is also exclusively for the religious wafer things

RegDwight

> В некоторых русскоязычных текстах (в том числе литературных) можно встретить в качестве синонима для обозначения гостии слово обла́тка (лат. oblatio — приношение, предложение, дар; в русском через средневерхненемецкий; синоним греч. προσφορα). Русские католики избегают такого словоупотребления[1].

"In some Russian texts oblatka is used instead, to which Russian catholics object."

JSBangs

3:59 PM

i had deciphered as far as the word обла́тка before you posted

z7sg

I was trying to read the Greek bit

RegDwight

Well, that does explain a lot about my idiolect.

z7sg

prosfora?

RegDwight

Yeah.

That's the other word my mom uses, просфорка.

JSBangs

i, too, was trying to remember the word prosphora

RegDwight

4:02 PM

Anyhow, for me oblatka is any dough wafer, prosforka is reserved for church, and I don't think I would ever use hostie in Russian.

JSBangs

well, duh, because hostie is a german word. you'd at least say gostiya

ha! i crashed the program

RegDwight

No, I would say хостия, never гостия.

JSBangs

(not this program. the one i'm testing)

RegDwight

You also crashed me out of my office and into a bus. TTYL.

z7sg

i like the word избегаT, sounds like the Catholics are running away at the sight of the word

RegDwight

4:04 PM

(How could I differentiate between "into a bus" as in "I hit the bus" and "into a bus" as in "I entered the bus"?)

JSBangs

@RegDwight you probably wouldn't. context must suffice

RegDwight

Too bad. There are proper languages in which I could. :P

Anyhows, I'm out!

Boob

Is it legal to ask questions on a question? nested questions, somehow

z7sg

You could ask a new question and link to the other one

Boob

But it's not in that level , I mean, being a question

z7sg

4:18 PM

Is a clarification needed in the original question, or you want to extend the scope or what? What question are you looking at here?

Boob

4

Q: What does "high" add to the meaning of this sentence of Tagore's poem?

Do not seat your love upon a precipice because it is high. What is the meaning of the word high in this sentence?

adjectives poetry

z7sg

There are different ways to interpret that. I don't understand your question though, 'it' refers to the precipice.

Boob

I meant, which usage of it is applied in the poem

dictionary.reference.com/browse/it

z7sg

oxforddictionaries.com/view/entry/…

1. used to refer to a thing previously mentioned or easily identified:

Boob

@z7sg So why some users said that "impossible" or "difficult" is wrong?

@z7sg Um, you're right .. why I thought like that ..

z7sg

4:30 PM

@Boob yeah it's easy to put something on a precipice... but dangerous

i just voted for Unreason's answer there

Boob

@z7sg • a dangerous situation which could lead to harm or failure

z7sg

the etymology is pretty cool: late 16th century (denoting a headlong fall): from French précipice or Latin praecipitium 'abrupt descent', from praeceps, praecip(it)- 'steep, headlong'

Boob

So it should be difficult , came to my mind

z7sg

it's a fall, not just 'a high place'

Boob

@z7sg Agreed

Fall is dangerous?

Vitaly

4:42 PM

Yo. “You have earned the Nice Answer badge.” /dances (And thanks to whoever congratulates me.)

Boob

Congrats.

aedia

@Vitaly Ooo, congrats Vitaly :)

z7sg

It is a nice answer, and a nice question!

Поздравляю!

Boob

Hmm, I can't understand it. Every dangerous thing could be difficult or impossible

Vitaly

:D Спасибо.

z7sg

4:49 PM

@Boob Putting a fragile egg on a cliff edge, it's just the risk it falls off.

And smashes into an eggy mess.

Boob

I was thinking about putting something on the Mountain top

Or something , bla bla

Anyway, thanks for your explanation.

Kit

5:11 PM

@Vitaly Congrats!

Vitaly

Stupid electricity… How does it work? Funny I should have got a power outage (AmE)/cut (BrE) when my rep reached 666.

Boob

5:35 PM

Electricity

Electricity is a general term encompassing a variety of phenomena resulting from the presence and flow of electric charge. These include many easily recognizable phenomena, such as lightning, static electricity, and the flow of electrical current in an electrical wire. In addition, electricity encompasses less familiar concepts such as the electromagnetic field and electromagnetic induction. The word is from the New Latin ēlectricus, "amber-like", coined in the year 1600 from the Greek ήλεκτρον (electron) meaning amber (hardened plant resin), because static electricity effects were pr...

z7sg

I've just done it again, I've typed out a long question on SO and just as I am about to post the answer is staring me right in the face.

Break your monitor

OK, that might help.

Don't doubt it

DId it work for you?

6:23 PM

I was wondering if anyone has darkened 59 appropriate circles lately?

JSBangs

i only darken inappropriate circles

z7sg

Yeah I can't tell with my monitor in this state.

Alenanno

6:43 PM

Hello everyone

Hello.

@Alenanno Hi

@Boob Hey!

@z7sg You feel better now, hum? don't hesitate to write me when you have same problem

z7sg

@Boob Err... thanks for the great advice!? Time for me to check out now, laters.

Boob

6:48 PM

@z7sg Have fun ,( Yes I'm great, have to admit)

Kit

Hup.

I probably should not have chimed in on the "irony" question.

Vitaly

Why are some questions highlighted in different colour?

Boob

Where?

Vitaly

questions → newest

Boob

It's not like that for me

Alenanno

6:56 PM

They have the same color here... But maybe let's see... Did you answer the darker ones?

Vitaly

No.

Kit

Yeah, that what I was thinking...did you answer the ones that are darker?

Alenanno

Try refreshing the page

JSBangs

favorite tags

Alenanno

ah

Kit

6:56 PM

@JSBangs Oh guru!

Vitaly

Oh. I don't have any favorite tags, but etymology is “frequented” for me

I guess that's it. Thanks @JSB

JSBangs

probably

Vitaly

7:20 PM

wikipedia.de/wke/Main_Page

Alenanno

0

Q: Do most languages have nouns and verbs?

Are nouns and verbs (in the style of English) typical? Or are English nouns and verbs special oddities?

verbs nouns

Is this off topic or what

?

To me it sounds like so

Kit

@Vitaly Nice job, Vitaly!

Vitaly

@Kit Huh? That's not my site.

Kit

@Vitaly You mean, you're not the Vitaly M. of Moscow who signed that page?

Vitaly

Ah, yeah, it's I.

Alenanno

7:30 PM

@Vitaly: I don't wanna sound bothering but "It's me*" :D

Kit

@Alenanno How about "He is me"?

Alenanno

@Kit: Nah, that doesn't sound correct to me honestly... but I'm not 100% sure... While I'm 100% sure on "it's me"

Vitaly

I could cite CGEL that “It's I” is the more formal version of “It's me,” but I am tired of citing it already.

3

Kit

@Alenanno If you can say "It's me", surely you can say "He is me"? You're just substituting a pronoun after all.

Not to mention that "it" is for objects, and "he" is for hims. And I'm pretty sure Vitaly is a him.

@Vitaly Are you a him or an object?

Vitaly

Last night^Wtime I checked, I was a him.

Kit

7:35 PM

@Vitaly q.e.d.

Alenanno

... Sorry, but that doesn't matter

"he is me" means something different

When you ask "Who stole the money?", you wouldn't say "it wasn't I/she/he"

kiamlaluno

@Kit It is not just for objects.

"She was holding the baby, cradling it and smiling into its face."

Kit

@Alenanno Well, I wouldn't say "it was me" either. :)

kiamlaluno

Now tell me that a baby is an object.

Kit

@kiamlaluno I suppose it depends on who you ask, but I also would not use "it" to refer to a baby.

Boob

7:39 PM

@kiamlaluno Before the age of 2, yes

Kit

I am holding a baby, smiling at him, and stuffing Cheerios into his face.

kiamlaluno

@Kit In fact it is used referring to an animal or a child of unspecified sex.

Kit

@kiamlaluno Or Vitaly, though he is of specified sex. ;)

kiamlaluno

Then, it's also used in "it's a boy."

Vitaly

May 13 at 19:33, by Vitaly

I am pleased with myself. A single picture I posted results in a whole day of religious talk.

Kit

7:42 PM

@kiamlaluno I like your new icon, by the way.

kiamlaluno

Strange; I thought nobody would notice my gravatar.

@Kit Why thank you.

Martha

Kit

@kiamlaluno I don't really remember the old one, but this one attracted my attention. That's how I figured it must be new.

@Martha Aahh! Martha ambushes us with the cute baby again!

kiamlaluno

@Kit Oh… Well, the other had a phrase in Greek.

Martha

@Kit I'm laying down the gauntlet. :)

Kit

7:45 PM

@Martha Laying it down? Quietly? So you don't wake up the baby?

Martha

Yup. Plus, in case the baby is already awake, we don't want to show it a bad example by throwing things.

Kit

@kiamlaluno Ah. This one happens to have a K, which is also my initial, and is reminds me of a compass, which is one of my favorite tools, and it is blue, which is my favorite color. Hence the attraction.

@Martha Good thinking.

kiamlaluno

@Kit The font I used makes the K seems like the symbol you find in the "rewind" button.

Boob

@Vitaly Is is true? "first digital World Heritage Site"

Martha

@Kit You should make yourself a nice personalized avatar, too.

Kit

7:48 PM

Speaking of babies, this one has had his fill of Cheerios, methinks. So I've got to run. TTFN. Back soon, I hope.

Vitaly

@Boob What is true? There is a petition for Wikipedia to be recognised as such.

Boob

@Vitaly I meant, why we should sign it

Vitaly

@Boob Well for starters, Wikipedia certainly qualifies for World Heritage! :P

No one is saying you should.

kiamlaluno

You must.

Vitaly

Word.

Alenanno

7:53 PM

@Vitaly @Kit see this, nohat gave an explanation about that matter... I have to go offline now, see y'all english.stackexchange.com/questions/4556/who-wants-ice-cream

Boob

@Vitaly I don't have any ideas about beginners. huh. :\

@Alenanno Have fun

@kiamlaluno I still see your previous avatar

kiamlaluno

@Boob You need to refresh the page.

Whoops; we missed somebody.

Spare Oom

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Q: What makes "like" and "so" popular?

So, I was like, why does everyone say like and so in every sentence? Where did this trend come from, like, what started it, and is it actually grammatically correct to like, insert like into our speech in just about any position in a sentence? Reward for anyone who can tell me the cause of its...

word-usage speech

Boob

@kiamlaluno You missed me?

Spare Oom

Where would one add this link to help? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Like#In_slang_and_colloquial_speech

kiamlaluno

8:01 PM

@Boob I was referring to who logged out.

I better go. Buh bye.

Kosmonaut

8:24 PM

0

Q: What do we have to take care of when trying to learn grammar from spoken conversations?

In spoken conversations German is sometimes horrifyingly wrong when it comes to grammar. This is even more so in regional dialects when sentences like Das ist der Erich, dem wo seine Frau davongelaufen ist. are perfectly understood and spoken just like above. How do we best prepare to avoi...

grammar dialect

Boy, if GL&U has any interest in being like EL&U then they should kill that question with fire.

JSBangs

i would go over to help light it on fire, but i'm not signed up for GL&U

BTW, what was the word from TPTB on SE sites in languages other than English?

i thought that half of the point of something like german.SE would be that the questions are (or at least can be) in German)

Kosmonaut

Some of them are in German.

JSBangs

well, that's good to know

i should propose romanian.se

Kosmonaut

3

Q: Gibt es andere übliche Märchenbeginnformeln neben "es war einmal"?

Sehr viele Märchen beginnen auf Deutsch mit "Es war einmal", aber ich kenne auch ein Märchen, das anfängt mit "Zu der Zeit, als das Wünschen noch geholfen hat ...". Gibt es noch andere Beginnformeln und wenn ja, kann man diese dem geographischen Ursprung der Märchen zuordnen?

regional fairy-tales

JSBangs

sehr gut

Kosmonaut

8:30 PM

Someone should propose binary-language-of-moisture-vaporators.se

JSBangs

i would follow that

but it looks like ro.se has already been proposed

21

Romanian Language & Usage

Proposed Q&A site for people having questions about Romanian language, native speakers of Romanian wanting to discuss the finer points of the language and translation questions from English to Romanian.

Currently in definition.

Cerberus

Greetings.

Kosmonaut

Goedenavond.

Spare Oom

@Cerberus Salutations.

z7sg

@Cerberus you missed a trick with the one-headed question

You could have answered that authoritatively.

Spare Oom

8:42 PM

Bye folks.

Cerberus

9:25 PM

Hai again! Sorry I was away.

@z7sg A one-headed question? What freak is that?

Vitaly

9:37 PM

Could any collection of quotes concerning English be full without some quotes from Otto Jespersen?

Cerberus

Probably not...

Vitaly

> citified, clothified, funnified, once-upon-a-timey-fied, Shelleyfy, Swiftify and Poppify; confusticate, bibulate, flustrate, gallivate, quituate, smothercate, stuffocate — A Modern English Grammar on Historical Principles by Otto Jespersen, vol. VI Morphology, Ch. XXIII L-Suffixes Continued.

z7sg

9:52 PM

@Cerberus To you even the 'bicephalic' must look freakishly deficient in the head department.

Vitaly

All those suffixes flustrate me.

On that note, I need some sleep. CU.

Cerberus

10:12 PM

@z7sg It is true! Though I still haven't a clue what this is about... oh, and I prefer dicephalic, as I try to avoid Graeco-Latin hybrids wherever I can.

@Vit: Good night!

Alain Pannetier

11:15 PM

I've got fantastic news: apocalypse is postponed till 21st of October.

bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13516796

Cerberus

11:42 PM

That is good news!

I was afraid I'd missed it somehow.

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