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2:08 AM
Okay here's another one: when computing Cech cohomology, we're supposed to take the (co?)limit over all covers. Is there some way of guaranteeing that one cover is good enough to get all the information?
If the cover is, say, faithfully flat, can I just computer Cech cohomology for THAT cover and be done with it?
What are the methods people use to compute this business?
Oh, I suppose I need to find an acyclic resolution, is the point.
I.e. a cover such that the sheaf is trivial on intersections.
Derp.
 
2:32 AM
@Jon You have basically figured it out on your own but 1) Yes you always want the first of the two conditions you've written. Sometimes $G$ is the pullback to B of something global, in which case you get the second condition by transitivity of the pullback
2) You need that your cover is acyclic for your sheaf, i.e. that the sheaf has no higher cohomology on the finite intersections (this is just to ensure the degeneracy of the Mayer-Vietoris spectral sequence)
(the most common application in algebraic geometry is when you have a quasi-coherent sheaf on a separated scheme. Then any cover by affines does the trick)
 
ahh okay.
thanks.
i'm trying to figure out if i can possibly ever hope to compute even the first few sheaf cohomology groups for certain spectral sheaves
in particular, combining my two above questions - i want to compute torsors over a given spectral monoid scheme.
e.g. hopf-galois extensions of a given ring spectrum by some fixed bialgebra.
 
Hmm... I think you need to be extra careful with your definition of torsor here
 
I probably will indeed need to be extra careful about everything at some point. What are you getting at though?
 
With the fact that $\Omega^\infty$ is not conservative you cannot say much about a sheaf of spectra by looking at the underlying sheaf of spaces
 
I don't think I want to do that, as far as I know.
 
2:38 AM
While usually you work with a torsor as a sheaf of sets on your site (so that torsors satisfy descent tautologically)
 
Oh.
Hmmmm, yeah I see what you're saying.
 
But on the other hand you have the Yoneda lemma so I'm probably just fretting over nothing
 
Well, I'm not sure. My biggest concern is that I basically keep producing things which are completely incalculable.
 
Let's just say that you want to verify that your torsors satisfy descent (as in: the category of torsor is a sheaf of groupoids)
 
Right.
 
2:40 AM
In that case you should be able to get a spectral sequencce computing the homotopy groups of your global sections
 
But..... hmmmm, if I have a good enough cover.... isn't it enough just to know that it converges for that cover?
I mean, if I know that the sheaf descends along the cover of interest?
Sorry, this is getting a little far afield, the idea is that for some fixed ring spectrum I'd like to compute Map(Spec(R),BG) where by G I really mean Spec(H) for H some spectral bialgebra.
Now, I of course don't have any good notion of Spec
especially if I'm working with E_n-rings
 
Yeah, but you don't need to, for now. Everything looks affine
 
Right.
It is.
Should I replace BG with the cobar construction on H?
 
Well, it depends by what you mean with BG
Replacing BG with the cobar construction means basically that you are using the covering $*\to BG$ to compute the global sections of BG
Which may be what you want
But may be not
 
Yeah, I really only have a theoretical notion of it as the thing classifying principal G-bundles.
Ah yes. Okay. I think I see what you mean.
Hm...
I think I'll need to use some kind of intuition to guess what the right space of morphisms should be, and then prove a categorical equivalence between that and some $\infty$-category of "torsors"
 
2:44 AM
The spec of the cobar construction is literally the Cech complex for that cover
 
Right. Yes, fair enough.
Yeah, well.... Yeah... I mean, BG is really $B(\ast,G,\ast)$, iirc, and cobar is $C(\ast,H,\ast)$
crap
Man... that just reminded me of how much I love the fact that Thom spectra can be thought of as bar constructions....
 
My favourite definition of torsor is a sheaf in whatever topology your considering now togeter with an action of $G$ (the sheaf corepresented by H) that is simply transitive
This should work everytime and be computed exactly by the Cech complex you described above
 
Yes. One might just have to be a little more hands-on or low-tech, considering the current state of the art.
I guess "current state of the art" is pretty redundant.
Whups, my train is pulling in to Chicago. Time to go get Paul Van Koughnett to teach me about TAF!
Cya
 
Enjoy your time in Chicago!
 
 
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2:08 PM
Hm, reading Milne's notes he claims that a connected diagonalizable algebraic group is always isomorphic to a finite product of copies of G_m : this can't be true, right? If he said smooth algebraic diagonalizable algebraic groups then I agree, but not otherwise. What about say the pth roots of unity?
probably a typo
 
@Adeel: what are you looking for in a reference about vector bundles? Is it some correspondence between vector bundles on X and some locally trivial geometric objects over X? (because I've seen people take Spec Sym (perfect complex) plenty of times over derived schemes... I think.
 
@user101036 The roots of unità are not diagonalizable
 
@user101036 Is this a problem with the characteristic of the ground field? Aren't all groups smooth? (take any point in the smooth locus and use left translations to prove that all other points are smooth)
 
In char p, not all group schemes are smooth
 
Ugh forget what I said. Today I'm stupid
 
2:15 PM
@DenisNardin I am quite sure it is, but maybe I'm missing something.
Mistakes are easy to make, I've made too many
 
@bananastack yes exactly
 
@Adeel let us know if you ever find it (or if you write it yourself)!
 
@bananastack so I think I've basically worked out the right definition of Spec Sym of a perfect complex, but still it would be nice if someone had written it down already so i could just reference it
 
No the mistake is mine, sorry
 
@bananastack It fails in characteristic p since not all group schemes are reduced. It actually fails already for perfect fields of characteristic p. Take for example k[x,x^{-1}]/((x-1)^p) (pth roots of unity and comultiplication taking x --> x \otimes x) .
 
2:18 PM
@user101036 @DenisNardin yes, I didn't remember what the assumptions were to have your group be automatically reduced. Is Milne working in char 0? Or maybe he just forgot an assumption.
 
there's a certain quote I like regarding making mistakes which cheers me up sometimes. Maybe my sense of what is encouraging is a bit off, but nonetheless
Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better.
Milne is not working in char 0, I just think he forgot to add smooth.
 
@Adeel maybe page 46 here (arxiv.org/pdf/1401.1044.pdf) helps?
 
@bananastack perfect, thanks!!
that saves me a lot of work
 
2:34 PM
@Adeel glad I could help (when in doubt, I always look up Toën or his jazz)
 
 
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6:34 PM
Basic question: so, the steenrod algebra is of course non-commutative so we can't study it as an algebraic group directly. However, it is a cocommutative hopf algebra, so dualizing we should get something . Is it profiteable to view the Steenrod algebra under this dualization?
 
at the prime 2 the dual steenrod algebra represents the (formal) group scheme of automorphisms of the additive formal group.
at odd primes that's still there, but the whole thing is somewhat more complicated
 
I heard something about that we only got the even or odd part if we dualized, but aybe I'm misremembering
I suppose you need to talk about supergeometry
 
at odd primes the polynomial part of the dual Steenrod algebra has the same property I said above, but
Yes, supergeometry. There's a paper of Inoue that says that this result holds at odd primes too for a "super" version of the additive group
 
6:50 PM
thanks!
so from the chromatic viewpoint this is what we would want to be true. If we take some complex-oriented cohomology theory and consider the algebra of cohomology operations, is this always automorphisms of the underlying formal group?
 
7:23 PM
there are two reasons why that's not always true
the first is that there can be extra stuff: e.g. [HZ, HZ] has lots of of stuff in it that comes in as "derived" stuff rather than coming from the formal group
if your cohomology theory is Landweber exact, this problem goes away
(in some other cases it is not too bad, e.g. the Morava K-theories K(n) have some stuff coming from the formal group and a little exterior contribution)
however, the second reason is that cohomology operations aren't really "multiplicative" enough in general.
e.g. with K-theory, K_* K is the coordinate ring of Aut(G_m)
 
That's a bummer
 
the dual of that is not Aut(G_m) itself
although Aut(G_m) maps to it
but you can take those elements and add them, for example.
the interpretation that I've heard, and I think I first saw in Ando-Hopkins-Rezk, is that the algebra of cohomology operations is usually closer to something like a ring of measures on automorphisms of the formal group
where "measure" is just something to make you more comfortable with the dualization (a measure on X is something that takes a function on X and returns a number, so it's basically something in the dual)
the multiplication on cohomology operations then corresponds to the convolution product for measures
 
that's very interesting
 
you could also instead try to hope that it was the "group algebra" of automorphisms of the formal group. (for finite discrete groups, these two processes agree with each other)
that doesn't usually work as well when your groups are not discrete, and so this perspective could be viewed as a slight correction on trying to take the group algebra
 
Does the homotopy category of spaces admit any nontrivial self-equivalences?
 
7:48 PM
@Espen: the answer is no at the infinity-categorical level. suppose f : spaces -> spaces is an (infinity-)functor that preserves homotopy colimits. then f is completely determined by what it does to a point: in fact it must have the form X x (-) for some uniquely determined space X (its value at a point), and in fact this is an equivalence of infinity-categories. this is a version of the eilenberg-watts theorem for spaces
now it's not hard to see that the only invertible such functor is the identity
since the only space which is invertible under product is the point
so in fact the infinity-group of automorphisms of Spaces not only has trivial pi_0 but is contractible
 
@QiaochuYuan Thanks, that's interesting. Can we also say this on the 1-categorical level if the equivalence comes from a zig-zag of Quillen equivalences?
 
i'd hope so
 
I don't see any reason for that to be true though – that's a bit like saying that every self-bijection of a topological space is a self-homeomorphism
 
8:03 PM
It appears to be true, judging from the answer to this question. mathoverflow.net/questions/82813/…
 
@Zhen: well, that's true for compact hausdorff spaces!
 
self bijection, not even assumed continuous
 
huh, sorry, I don't see the analogy
 
anyway, if you know the autoequivalence comes from Quillen equivalences of some decent model categories then you have an autoequivalence at the level of (∞, 1)-categories so it is equivalent to the identity
but I don't see any reason to believe that every autoequivalence of the (evil) homotopy category comes from such
 
oh, yeah, I agree. just asking for a self-equivalence of the homotopy category seems pretty bad and i have no idea what to say about that
 
8:07 PM
it seems doubtful
 
@ZhenLin Right. It is probably not even true. I should have emphasized Quillen equivalences from the start.
 
Amusingly, it's also the case that every autoequivalence of the category of Hausdorff spaces is isomorphic to the identity
I don't know whether the same is true of the category of all topological spaces – at any rate I don't have a neat proof
 
well, here's a dumb observation: the category of finite topological spaces has a nontrivial autoequivalence given by reversing open and closed sets
 
indeed, that's basically the problem
in Haus there is a very easy way of recognising closed subsets
I don't know how to do that in Top
hmmm... actually, maybe I do. We can recognise the Sierpiński space as the unique two-pointed space that is neither discrete nor indiscrete (these concepts being invariant under autoequivalence), so it's just a matter of distinguishing the closed point from the open point
but the closed point has this distinguishing property: the class of all pullbacks of the inclusion of the closed point is closed under arbitrary intersection
 
8:33 PM
okay, let me see if I follow you. it suffices, more or less, to show that an autoequivalence preserves the point and the sierpinski space. i think it preserves the point because the point is the unique tiny object (object X such that Hom(X, -) preserves all colimits)
 
or even more simply, the point is terminal
 
oh, lol, yeah
so an autoequivalence preserves the underlying set functor and we can talk about two-point spaces
we can also talk about the left and right adjoints to the underlying set functor, so we can talk about discrete and indiscrete spaces
 
exactly!
 
hence we can talk about the sierpinski space, and now the last step is to distinguish the closed and the open point
this is precisely the step that fails in the finite case, so this is presumably the hardest step
ah, but now you can use the fact that closed sets are closed under arbitrary intersection but open sets aren't, great
and we can talk about those because we can talk about homs into the sierpinski space and then talk about pullbacks along the inclusion of either the closed or the open point
 
yes, that's right
the only subtlety is that "intersection" has to be understood as "product in the slice category"
 
8:41 PM
sure, sure
 

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