English Language Learners

> Here are the drills for tomorrow.
1. Transcribe your own clip (the one you read from the news), then check it against your original transcription for pronunciation mistakes

2. Do the same thing you did with Matt's trailer with the Aesop's fable. Transcribe it (only the story part, from 0:16 onward), imitate it. Record your reading. Paste the transcription and upload your imitation.

3. Watch the original news clip (Matt Damon Defends The Attack On Teachers) once again, having your original transcription and marker pen ready. This drill is rather easy but very important. Mark all syllable…

hellodear2

whats this? "Aesop's fable"

Damkerng T.

The Dog and The Sow

Hmm... You don't know who Aesop is?

hellodear2

Cool. and what do you mean by "stress"?

No. I never heard of that word.

Damkerng T.

"stress" ~ emphasize

hellodear2

3:39 PM

Got it. that's what she said in the clip too.

Aesoap fable.

She said it in clip that I can't able to track

Damkerng T.

I bet that you must have heard a few of them (Aesop's fables).

hellodear2

what does this word mean "aesop fable"?

Damkerng T.

It's the fables told by Aesop.

So they're Aesop's fables.

"fable" ~ story

hellodear2

aesop --> any person's name?

Damkerng T.

Yes.

But you might pronounce his name a little differently in your language.

I think you must have heard this fable about The Tortoise and the Hare.

hellodear2

3:42 PM

Oh. Yes. It is damn damn famous.

Is that his creation?

:-o Really?

Damkerng T.

Once upon a time, a Hare ridicules a slow-moving Tortoise and is challenged by the tortoise to a race. ...

Yes. That's Aesop's.

hellodear2

Hot.

Damn hot.

WOw

Damkerng T.

How do you call his name?

hellodear2

How should I tell you.

aa + ii + sop

Damkerng T.

Ah, I see.

hellodear2

3:44 PM

say 'a' in ant.... then 'e' in eat.........then soap

Damkerng T.

In my own language, we call him: Ee-soap.

hellodear2

ee-soap

Cool.

Damkerng T.

But it's the same guy. :)

His fables are good.

hellodear2

Yup.

Damkerng T.

That clip is one of his fables.

hellodear2

3:46 PM

just 2 words I am unable to hear. when she says: recorded by dheck to dheck... aesop fables.

those dheck to dheck

without this, I have transcribed whole clip. :D

Damkerng T.

It's her name.

I think her name is Beth Dudeck, or something similar.

hellodear2

LOL

Now what can I do?

If they have these type of names. :D

Haha.

Damkerng T.

Try to speak in her voice (just like you tried with Matt's).

hellodear2

The moment when it will be Damkerng at that place... LOL

Damkerng T.

Hehe. :-)

hellodear2

3:48 PM

That mean I have transcribed whole clip. :D

Damkerng T.

Ah, you finished one of tomorrow's drills. :-)

hellodear2

what are we going to do now?

Damkerng T.

I just looked up her name. It's spelled Beth Dudek.

hellodear2

awesome name.

Damkerng T.

You can.

:)

hellodear2

3:50 PM

what are we going to do now?

Damkerng T.

The necessary things are done. Now is our free time. :-)

hellodear2

I have tried hard for that English song.

:D

Damkerng T.

Ah, that song. You did great. :)

hellodear2

and at the end, I am love with Anna Hathway.

Damkerng T.

Have you checked your transcription yet?

hellodear2

3:52 PM

Yup. I have checked it.

few lines are wrong.

Damkerng T.

Which song are we talking about now? (a little confused) Anne's or She?

hellodear2

I am talking about "She".

Which I sang too.

Damkerng T.

Oh, I see.

It makes you think of Anne Hathaway, probably. :-)

hellodear2

Yeah.

:')

Damkerng T.

Do those few lines (that you mis-transcribed them) surprise you?

hellodear2

3:54 PM

see, I can't guess "autumn brings" he said.

He said it very differently as I listen it in my daily life

Damkerng T.

That's fine.

What's more important is... once you know what he actually sang...

you must be able to hear it clearly.

hellodear2

the words which I was unable to hear properly are still tough for me .

Damkerng T.

Which ones, tell me.

hellodear2

word --> summer

I can't hear "er"

beauty or the beast.... I can't hear /t/ at the end.

but "turn" each day... I can'r hear that "turn"

Damkerng T.

Ah, but I think I heard some of your /t/ are just like that (in beast). :-)

hellodear2

4:00 PM

and she "may not" be what....... that "may not" I can hear now but not before.

@DamkerngT. what? what are you telling about /t/?

Damkerng T.

Which /t/ that you said you can't hear, again?

hellodear2

beast

Damkerng T.

There are two /t/ sounds in beauty or the beast.

hellodear2

I wrote it as "breeze"

Damkerng T.

I'm not sure, my computer's memory is not enough to bring up the Flash animation right now.

How did that Flash animation explain the /t/ sound?

hellodear2

4:02 PM

normal.

/t/

:D

LOL

Damkerng T.

It might take 10-15 minutes to explain this /t/.

We can do it now or later.

hellodear2

I can speak it clearly.

I can hear it when anyone says it.

Damkerng T.

I know you can speak /t/ clearly in your own language.

However, you have to open your ears and your mind to accept the fact that /t/ in other languages (especially English's) can be very different.

Let's discuss about this basic /t/.

hellodear2

See,

I can hear a /r/

sound over there that tells my brain to consider it as breeze.

Damkerng T.

You mean you heard /t/ as /r/?

hellodear2

4:05 PM

No.

Damkerng T.

I see, you heard /b r s/ and then something.

hellodear2

Beauty or /b/ + /r/ + /ee/ +

Exactly. You can read my brain.

I must say it now.

Damkerng T.

Because that's what /t/ sounds like. :)

hellodear2

:D

Damkerng T.

/t/ sounds like when there is no sound. :)

Okay, I will introduce you to an important concept of English phonology.

It's the "stops".

There are three important stop consonants in English: /t/, /p/, /k/.

hellodear2

4:07 PM

Ok

Damkerng T.

I bet that you have these sounds in your languages.

(Most languages have them.)

Let's consider only /t/ sound. (Once you really know about it, you can apply the concept to the other two.)

hellodear2

Yup. We have

Damkerng T.

There are basically 3 phases of /t/ sound (and also other stop consonants).

They are: pre-stop, stop, release

hellodear2

ok

Damkerng T.

Can you imagine these 3 phases?

hellodear2

4:10 PM

Yup. I can

Damkerng T.

Some people might call them: catch, hold, burst

hellodear2

hmmm....

Damkerng T.

What really important is the "stop" phase.

And during this "stop" phase, there will be no sound whatsoever.

(Because your mouth is closed, so there can't be no sound, right?)

hellodear2

hmmmmm.... It seems so.

Damkerng T.

You can say /s/ as long as you like.

But you can't do that with /t/.

hellodear2

4:12 PM

Cool Dam.

Wow

Damkerng T.

Try saying "But", without releasing.

Your tongue must be pressed against your mouth, correct?

hellodear2

Yup.

Damkerng T.

That's why they're called "stops". (/t/ is one of them.)

In many languages, the release (or burst) phase is important.

I think Hindi might require you to always release /t/ sounds.

However, English doesn't.

hellodear2

hmmm.....

Damkerng T.

For example, without releasing, we might write but as bu|.

(The | denotes the stop, no air is released after it.)

hellodear2

4:15 PM

whats that |

Cool. ok

Damkerng T.

So actually what you've heard in that beast was beas|.

Try hearing it again, and you'll understand.

hellodear2

not burst

Lyrics said it is "beast"

Damkerng T.

Sorry, I confused myself. :-)

hellodear2

I can hear /r/

Damkerng T.

In beast?

hellodear2

4:17 PM

Yes.

Why?

I can hear it

:(

Damkerng T.

Maybe because of the thrill.

He didn't pronounce /r/, but he did thrill his voice.

hellodear2

she maybe the beauty or the beast. Is it the correct line?

Damkerng T.

Yes.

hellodear2

Yup. That is because of his throat

He is saying bbbbb

it is sounding as if he is saying /br/

Damkerng T.

Perhaps more like /beee s |/

hellodear2

4:19 PM

Cool.

Damkerng T.

English has a few ways to say /r/.

Standard British dialect's r is a thrill /r/.

American's r never thrills.

We can come back to /r/ later. /r/ is rather tricky. :-)

hellodear2

ok

Damkerng T.

Can you hear the beast now?

hellodear2

Yup.

Damkerng T.

Yay!

hellodear2

4:23 PM

Forcing my brain to hear it like that

No clear yet but little bit clear.

Damkerng T.

Many /t/ sounds in English will be just like this (no release or burst).

hellodear2

beassss

Damkerng T.

He does this non-released /t/ sound again in cannot hope to last and shadows in the past.

hellodear2

Exactly.

Damkerng T.

Just remember that /t/ sound, which basically has 3 phases: pre-stop, stop, release, has only two mandatory phases. The last phase (release) is optional.

Most of the time, the /t/ sounds inside an utterance have only two phases.

When the /t/ sound is at the end of an utterance, the 3-phase is more likely, but not always.

hellodear2

4:27 PM

yup.

I got it.

Damkerng T.

Do you still have your old clips you uploaded for me?

hellodear2

which ones?

Damkerng T.

That All you need ... clip.

You named it "something great2.wma".

hellodear2

dropbox.com/s/nbjxluv7x8c71bp/a%20lot%20of%20heart1.wma

that one is here:

dropbox.com/s/s5dixn4wn36a8gb/something%20great2.wma

you see it. I must have dinner now.

Damkerng T.

I have it. I mentioned it so you can check your clips.

Ah, I see.

That's fine. See you tomorrow.

Have a nice meal!

hellodear2

5:04 PM

bbye Dam. <3 :-)

Damkerng T.

11:37 PM

Hello @StoneyB! I was about to start Hemingway's when I saw you here. How are you?

Damkerng T.

11:52 PM

Hello @Tristan.

Maybe I should start it now...

Damkerng T.

A Farewell to Arms by Ernest Hemingway. Chapter 21.

(p.142)

> In September the first cool nights came, then the days were cool and the leaves on the trees in the park began to turn color and we knew the summer was gone.

> The fighting at the front went very badly and they could not take San Gabriele.
The fighting on the Bainsizza plateau was over and by the middle of the month the fighting for San Gabriele was about over too.

> They could not take it.
Ettore was gone back to the front.
The horses were gone to Rome and there was no more racing.
Crowell had gone to Rome too, to be sent back to America.
There were riots twice in the town against the war and bad rioting in Turin.

> A British major at the club told me the Italians had lost one hundred and fifty thousand men on the Bainsizza plateau and on San Gabriele.
He said they had lost forty thousand on the Carso besides.
We had a drink and he talked.

> He said the fighting was over for the year down here and that the Italians had bitten off more then they could chew.
He said the offensive in Flanders was going to the bad.
If they killed men as they did this fall the Allies would be cooked in another year.

> He said we were all cooked but we were all right as long as we did not know it.
We were all cooked.
The thing was not to recognize it.
The last country to realize they were cooked would win the war.

> We had another drink.
Was I on somebody's staff?
No.
He was.
It was all balls.

> We were alone in the club sitting back in one of the big leather sofas.
His boots were smoothly polished dull leather.
They were beautiful boots.
He said it was all balls.
They thought only in divisions and man-power.

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