English Language Learners

Damkerng T.

3:56 AM

@AwalGarg Long time indeed.

Oh, I responded to a message that was gone!

Ice Boy

Hi pal

Damkerng T.

@Arrowfar I'm sure you are! I just made an observation in general.

@IceBoy Hello!

@IceBoy Oh, that's a bit sad!

Wait, do we have our own favorites list?

Oh, I see.

@Arrowfar When a non-native speaker (which I considered a language learner in some ways, even though they might not want to) is getting worried, they usually focus too much on their L2.

I mean, there are several things that might seem to relate to a specific language but actually not. That is most of the problems are kind of general to any languages. There are problems that are language specific, but these are mostly grammar-related and mostly at sentence or phrase level.

Damkerng T.

4:48 AM

One of the meanings of "act like a dead weight" is used to refer to someone who prevents other people from making progress. This idiom was mentioned once on our site (though the OP was looking for a different thing, a very heavy thing): english.stackexchange.com/questions/186936/…. — Damkerng T. 12 mins ago

I left a comment!

Freddy

hello

Damkerng T.

足を引っ張る (Ashi o hipparu) pull somebody down by his / her legs from the ladder of success / achieving goal, by exposing his / her mistakes / fault / shortcomings. (according to the OP, Yoichi Oishi).

Hello!

Hehe. My comment is ungrammatical! I guess I was busying cut-and-pasting!

Anonymous

Oh no! :-)

Freddy

:-)

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Daijisen says it means "To interfere with someone's success or progress; or, to be a hindrance"

Anonymous

4:52 AM

Though you could give it a bit of a broader translation than that

Anonymous

I don't think 妨げとなる has an exact English equivalent

Anonymous

I think it could be translated as something like "stand in the way of ～～"

Damkerng T.

nods

Freddy

google says its translation is "Which hinders"

Anonymous

Hehe.

Anonymous

4:55 AM

@DamkerngT. So 足を引っ張る could well mean "someone who prevents other people from making progress"

Damkerng T.

That makes it sound like "stand in the way of".

Anonymous

Yes, it can mean that

Freddy

Just try typing "obama is" in google search and see what google suggest!!! :-)

Damkerng T.

@Freddy I haven't tried it but I'm guessing!

Hehe. Nothing but isis and isil!

Anonymous

Oh, maybe try with a space

Freddy

4:57 AM

I got "Obama is cactus"

Damkerng T.

Weird. "obama is infecting" is at the top!

Oh, it's about ebola!

Freddy

Yes there is "Obama is infecting christians with ebola"

Anonymous

I'll start up Chrome so I can try too :-)

Anonymous

Huh. Chrome is weird.

Anonymous

I tried to type into the actual Google search box on the page, but it didn't let me. It moves my cursor to the URL bar / search bar!

Anonymous

5:02 AM

Awww, when you type in snailboat it assumes you mean sailboat

Anonymous

When you type in damkerng, it assumes you mean dammerung!

Anonymous

But freddy gives us freddy mercury

Anonymous

ice boy gives us "ice boy and watergirl"

Freddy

yes i know!

Anonymous

Hopefully ice girl won't melt!

Freddy

5:03 AM

try "obama is"

Anonymous

Hehe, I did, I got much the same ones as you :-)

Anonymous

"Obama is a cactus"

Anonymous

I don't know what that's supposed to mean

Freddy

You will get funny images in that

Damkerng T.

@snailboat dammerung!

Freddy

5:13 AM

I got Damkerng T. user of Linguistics Stack Exchange

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Tasogare!

Damkerng T.

@Freddy Hooray!

@snailboat Dusk Maiden of Amnesia?!

Anonymous

Um :-)

Anonymous

Tasogare is Japanese for "twilight"!

Damkerng T.

Oh!

Anonymous

5:15 AM

Twilight is English for "dammerung"!

Anonymous

I don't know what the Dusk Maiden of Amnesia is

Damkerng T.

Oh, I googled for Tasogare and I got an anime back!

Anonymous

But it sounds like it's from a Japanese cartoon!

Anonymous

黄昏乙女×アムネジア

『黄昏乙女×アムネジア』（たそがれおとめアムネジア、Dusk maiden of Amnesia）は、めいびいによる日本のホラー漫画作品。スクウェア・エニックス刊『ガンガンパワード』2008年6月号に読切「乙女心と夕の空」が掲載された後、12月号に続編「黄昏乙女×アムネジア」を掲載。同誌を継承した『月刊ガンガンJOKER』で2009年5月号（創刊号）より読切2作品からそのまま続く形で2013年10月号まで連載。『月刊ガンガンJOKER』2012年1月号にてテレビアニメ化が発表され、同年4月から6月まで放送された。 == あらすじ == 創立60年の伝統を誇る私立誠教学園は、市街地を見下ろすように小高い丘の上に建てられている。長い歴史の間に増改築を繰り返した校舎は迷路の如き様相を呈しており、そんな中で「旧校舎の幽霊」の話をはじめさまざまな怪談や都市伝説が生徒の間で語り継がれてきた。 1年生の新谷貞一はある日、旧校舎に迷い込んだ際に不思議な女子生徒に出会う。彼女は自分こそが「旧校舎の幽霊」こと庚夕子であると名乗り、自分の死の真相を解明するために貞一に協力して欲しいと申し出る。夕子に引っ張られるように行動を共にするようになった貞一は、「旧校舎の大鏡」の向こうに隠されていた地下室で白骨化した夕子の死体を発見する。しかし、夕子は自分の死体を前にしても死因を思い出せず、真相解明は...

Anonymous

Tasogare Otome × Amnesia

Anonymous

5:16 AM

I haven't heard of this one! :-)

Damkerng T.

Me either!

Anonymous

It's about ghost stories!

Damkerng T.

I guess that's why they named it Dusk!

Anonymous

When I hear dammerung (or Dämmerung), I always think of Götterdämmerung

Anonymous

Kamigami no tasogare!

Damkerng T.

5:20 AM

I got a Götterdämmerung spell card!

Anonymous

Oh, a card?

Anonymous

A spell card?

Damkerng T.

Anonymous

Oh!

Anonymous

It says 魔 in the upper right!

Damkerng T.

5:22 AM

I'm still not sure what Götterdämmerung Kamigami no tasogare is. It looks like it's a film. Not an anime, maybe?

Anonymous

It's part of Wagner's The Ring!

Damkerng T.

Hah!

Anonymous

Götterdämmerung

Götterdämmerung ( pronunciation ; Twilight of the Gods), WWV 86D, is the last in Richard Wagner's cycle of four operas titled Der Ring des Nibelungen (The Ring of the Nibelung, or The Ring for short). It received its premiere at the Bayreuth Festspielhaus on 17 August 1876, as part of the first complete performance of the Ring. The title is a translation into German of the Old Norse phrase Ragnarök, which in Norse mythology refers to a prophesied war among various beings and gods that ultimately results in the burning, immersion in water, and renewal of the world. However, as with the rest of the...

Anonymous

It's a translation of Ragnarok

Anonymous

Kamigami no Tasogare is, too

Damkerng T.

5:23 AM

Oh, I thought it's Japanese!

Anonymous

It means "The Twilight of the Gods"

Damkerng T.

Ahh

Anonymous

It has a straightforward translation

Anonymous

But

Anonymous

Sturm und Drang doesn't really have a straightforward translation into English

Anonymous

5:24 AM

So we borrowed it as a fixed phrase!

Anonymous

But I find sometimes there are people who don't know the phrase

Damkerng T.

Btw, Ragnarok is the first well-known online game here.

Anonymous

In Japanese, it's calqued as Shippū dotō

Anonymous

Once, I was supposed to translate it, and I translated it as Sturm und Drang, but no one understood!

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. I've heard of it

Anonymous

5:26 AM

Very popular in Korea

Damkerng T.

Oh, Korea is the land of gamers!

@snailboat The Japanese Wikipedia page is titled シュトゥルム・ウント・ドラング. I guess it's untranslatable!

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. I don't think all Japanese know what 疾風怒濤 (the calque) means, either

Anonymous

It's probably one of those things people use to sound cool these days :-)

Damkerng T.

Hehe!

Anonymous

Actually, the situation parallels English pretty well

Anonymous

5:30 AM

疾風怒濤 is a dvandva compound (a compound of the type "A and B"), which you can separate into two halves

Anonymous

疾風 is straightforwardly similar to "storm", just like "Sturm"

Anonymous

So it's fairly transparent

Anonymous

But "Drang" doesn't mean anything in English

Anonymous

And 怒濤 isn't really used outside of that expression in Japanese

Anonymous

Though it's technically a word

Damkerng T.

5:32 AM

@snailboat Yet, they have a kanji for it!

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Well, it's from Chinese

Anonymous

But that word isn't generally used in Japanese

Anonymous

Japanese has long been under the principle of Total Availability―any Chinese word or morpheme has, in theory, been usable in Japanese at any time

Anonymous

Even though in practice only a small portion of the total are used for established words in Japanese

Anonymous

Chinese 怒涛 nùtāo means something like "violent waves"

Damkerng T.

5:35 AM

Ahh... So they use that word for it in Chinese.

Anonymous

No, it's called 狂飙突进运动 in Chinese

Damkerng T.

Oh!

Anonymous

The Meiji-era Japanese scholars who preferred to calque things with Sino-Japanese vocabulary translated Sturm und Drang as 疾風怒濤 by borrowing 怒涛 from Chinese

Damkerng T.

Ahh

Anonymous

That was fashionable at the time

Damkerng T.

5:38 AM

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Q: Usage Of "In The Meantime"

According to this definition "in the meantime" means: during the time before something happens or before a specified period ends But in this google cache page, there is this caption: This is Google's cache of https://www.yahoo.com/. It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Oc...

Anonymous

These days, words just get borrowed with katakana spellings like you saw on Wikipedia! :-)

Damkerng T.

Deja vu?

Anonymous

I think déjà vu is uncountable

Damkerng T.

Oh, hehe!

I've never looked up this word.

Anonymous

Did they ask this exact question before?

Damkerng T.

5:39 AM

Oh, so it's the feeling, not an event.

I found this:

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Q: In The Meantime

A Google cache can show a web page as it appeared at a point in time in the past: On a particular google cache page, this caption was found: link It is a snapshot of the page as it appeared on Jul 25, 2014 17:36:27 GMT. The current page could have changed in the meantime. what does "in...

grammar meaning usage

Anonymous

Déjà vu is a borrowing from French, "already seen". Formally, it's used for the uncanny sensation that you've experienced something before, when you actually haven't

Anonymous

But informally, it's used in a non-illusory sense: "I think I've seen this before" :-)

Anonymous

Like you used it here.

Freddy

"lushikutetefu" does this mean Freddy??

Anonymous

I don't know. What language is it supposed to be?

Anonymous

5:41 AM

And what does Freddy mean?

Damkerng T.

@Freddy If the first l was r, it would sound very Japanese like.

Freddy

@snailboat Freddy mean " peaceful ruler."

I did that from here

TRY YOUR NAME IN
JAPANESE:
A= ka, B= tu, C= mi, D= te,
E= ku, F=lu, g= ji, H= ri, I=
ki, J= zu, K= me,
L= ta, M= rin, N= to, O= mo,
P= no,Q= ke, R= shi, S= ari,
T= chi, U= do,
V= ru, W= mei, X= na, Y= fu,
Z= z

Damkerng T.

I didn't know this system!

Freddy

I think it is just for fun

Damkerng T.

tekarinmekushitoji <-- Damkerng?

Hehe!

I think the problem with in the meantime is that some dictionaries (and thus perhaps some people) will read it as "during the time between two events or between the present time and a future event", as Macmillan defines it.

Anonymous

5:49 AM

@Freddy This has nothing to do with Japanese; it appears to have been invented by someone who doesn't know any Japanese

Damkerng T.

＠Mari-Lou. I think it's worthy of note that "Pull somebody down by legs" in Japanese has dual meanings of (1) light-hearted meaning of “nitpicking sb’s misstatement such as grammatical errors and malapropism and (2) serious obstruction such as putting down or bury your political or business rival by a plot. However, both usages come from the allegory of pulling somebody down by holding his legs from the top or middle of the ladder the victim was climbing or climbed up. — Yoichi Oishi ♦ 43 mins ago

Oh, pulling someone's leg in Japanese is definitely not the same thing as it is in English!

I think (1) is closer to the English phrase than (2).

I also think (2) is beyond just standing in someone's way!

Damkerng T.

6:10 AM

Let me ask you one more question about do the most English native speakers use RNR in verbal or communication each by each? — user1917217 16 hours ago

@user1917217 I believe that it happens all the time, without anyone really noticing it. For example, it's not difficult to imagine someone saying, "I want and need him," or "Where and when did it happen?" — Damkerng T. 16 hours ago

@DamkerngT I think those examples exhibit ordinary coordinate constituents. — StoneyB 8 hours ago

Anonymous

How about "both pre- and post-war"?

Damkerng T.

Now I'm a bit confused. Maybe to be RNR the coordinated parts have to be more complex. I don't know.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. The idea is that in RNR, you can coordinate things that normally aren't constituents

Anonymous

Wikipedia gives the example "[Fred prepares] and [Susan eats] the food."

Damkerng T.

I wrote a step by step answer and decided not to post it, because it's a bit too mechanical and the OP seems to prefer something more fanciful.

Anonymous

6:13 AM

On the surface, that appears to coordinate a subject and part of a verb phrase, which combined do not normally form a constituent

Anonymous

So instead, we say:

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Which is perfectly natural to me.

Anonymous

> [Fred prepares the food] and [Susan eats the food]. ← Both of these are constituents

Anonymous

Then

Anonymous

> [Fred prepares ＿＿ ] and [Susan eats ＿＿ ] the food.

Anonymous

6:13 AM

Now we've pulled out "the food" from both coordinates

Anonymous

That's our "right node", and we've "raised" it out of the construction

Anonymous

To a higher place in the syntax tree

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. It is perfectly natural

Damkerng T.

nods

Anonymous

CGEL uses the clunkier name "delayed right constituent coordination"

Anonymous

6:16 AM

Which reflects their non-movement-based analysis

Damkerng T.

I guess linguists came up with the term RNR because they found that the ashared parts aren't constituents and caused a problem to their parsing.

Anonymous

Well, its behavior is different from that of basic coordination, so it merits special description

Damkerng T.

@snailboat Eh? Hmm... It's strange that they still call it a kind of "constituent coordination".

Anonymous

There are alternate approaches, however

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. No, it's coordination in which there is a delayed right constituent

Anonymous

6:17 AM

But!

Anonymous

In CGEL's analysis, anything that is coordinated is a constituent by definition

Damkerng T.

A-ha!

Anonymous

That's why I wrote "do not normally form a constituent"

Anonymous

Because they don't normally form constituents, but here they are arguably constituents of the coordination

Anonymous

This is a matter of theory, since saying so doesn't really make any empirical predictions

Anonymous

6:18 AM

However

Anonymous

Combinatory categorial grammar allows us to analyze these coordinations without making an exception

Anonymous

It's a more powerful theory

Damkerng T.

Oh, I like the word combinatory!

Anonymous

Combinatory categorial grammar

Combinatory categorial grammar (CCG) is an efficiently parsable, yet linguistically expressive grammar formalism. It has a transparent interface between surface syntax and underlying semantic representation, including predicate-argument structure, quantification and information structure. The formalism generates constituency-based structures (as opposed to dependency-based ones) and is therefore a type of phrase structure grammar (as opposed to a dependency grammar). CCG relies on combinatory logic, which has the same expressive power as the lambda calculus, but builds its expressions differently...

Anonymous

So you don't have to accept that RNR is theoretically exceptional

Damkerng T.

6:24 AM

I'm pretty sure that my 24 steps is kind of an informal proof according to CCG!

Anonymous

What are your 24 steps?

Damkerng T.

Because there are 24 words.

Here are my first few steps:

> 1. ***Trash*** - possibly a noun
2. *Trash **generated*** - Possibly Trash(n.) generated(v. past-tense), but it there is another possibility: Trash(n.) generated(passive-participle)
3. *Trash generated **by*** - This rules out *generated* as a verb in the past tense. So we are sure that *generated* is a passive particile, and we are going to expect an agent (or a subject or an actor--someone or something that generates the trash) that generates the trash.
4. *Trash generated by **units*** - Now we have a complete noun phrase: [ Trash generated by units ]. It's trash. It's the trash (that …

And after the 24th step, we got this:

> > [ [ Trash generated by units ] [ should be taken directly to ] (the trash chutes) ] and [ (Trash generated by units) [ (should be) placed in ] [ the trash chutes ] ] or [ (Trash generated by units) [ (should be) physically brought to ] [ the basement trash compacting area ] ].

It's quite mechanical, and it uses no shortcut (no skipping, skimming, or spotting) as we normally do at all.

Freddy

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Q: Please tell me the name of the church holiday that consists of the next letters g i r o d y a

I was given a task in my english class to tell the name of the church holiday that consists of the next letters g i r o d y a . I googled it all over but couldn't find it. Please help.

word-request letters

Damkerng T.

--My guess is it's in Hebrew.-- Oh, it's the names for holidays.

Freddy

Isn't this off topic??

Damkerng T.

6:30 AM

It's marginal to me. At least, they googled it.

0

Q: Which day of the working week is called blue?

I heard that there is one, which is it? I couldn't find it. All I found was http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Monday_(date) but here I am looking for a day of the week. Is there one?

word-request

Does English assign a unique color to each day of week?

Anonymous

@Freddy Seems pretty off-topic to me!

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. Nope! :-)

Anonymous

But there's a song called Blue Monday

Anonymous

►

Damkerng T.

Ah, maybe it's Thai's thing.

> simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/Color_of_the_day

Anonymous

6:38 AM

Neat!

Anonymous

→ unsimple.wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colors_of_the_day_in_Thailand

Anonymous

Unsimple Wikipedia has unlucky colors, too!

Damkerng T.

Hah!

Anonymous

This question appears to be off-topic because it is not about learning the English language. — snailboat 40 secs ago

Anonymous

It could be Good Riday

Anonymous

6:40 AM

D'ya s'pose they forgot to type a letter? :-)

Freddy

It's about finding place

Damkerng T.

Oh, that's why I couldn't figure it out!

I wonder what it feels like in their class. :-)

Anonymous

Probably not very pleasant.

Damkerng T.

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A: How to properly combine two sentences by using a relative clause?

Some students took the exam. Most of them passed. These two sentences (clauses) can be combined into one sentence by converting one of them into a relative clause. I'm basically going to present a mechanical method of doing this, a method that in general might be helpful, but maybe s...

Wow! One ring to rule them all! It's a universal cure! (for relative clauses, that is)

Anonymous

The determines the nominal including the relative clause, students [who took the exam]

Anonymous

6:54 AM

So [who took the exam] attaches to students, not the students

Anonymous

The students who took the exam implies the existence of students who did not

Anonymous

You wouldn't say it if all the students took the exam.

Anonymous

So it's okay without further elaboration.

Damkerng T.

I think this point is debatable. I'd say both readings are possible.

Anonymous

Well, it can't attach to the students -- English grammar doesn't work that way -- but it is possible for the implication to be false

Anonymous

6:57 AM

That is, you can say:

Anonymous

The students who took the exam, which was all of them, passed

Anonymous

So it's not a strict implication.

Anonymous

So that is definitely a possible alternative reading, but unless you give the listener some reason to believe otherwise, they'll probably assume the set of students that didn't take the exam is not empty

Anonymous

It's implied, but not entailed. Or, it's a cancellable implicature.

Anonymous

(Unfortunately, imply has multiple meanings, so sometimes it helps to use more explicit terminology.)

Damkerng T.

7:02 AM

nods -- This point struck me as a bit odd when I read his post, too. But when I tried to think along his reasoning, I thought it would be possible. Now I'm thinking it's very rare for someone to read it that way.

So, it's Most of the [students who took the exam] passed, rather than Most of [[the students] [who took the exam]] passed.

Anonymous

CGEL sets up an intermediate category between noun and noun phrase, which they call nominal

Anonymous

> Intermediate between the noun and the NP we recognise a category of nominals:

2

Anonymous

> > 3.a. the old man

Anonymous

> > 3.b. that book you were talking about

Anonymous

> In [a] the definite article the serves as determiner with respect to old man, while demonstrative that in [b] determines book you were talking about.

Anonymous

7:05 AM

(p.329)

Anonymous

So in their structure, the nominal old man is the head of the noun phrase the old man, and the noun man is the head of the nominal old man

Damkerng T.

nods

Anonymous

Nominals also work as pre-head modifiers in noun phrases: another United States warship

Anonymous

But noun phrases do not: ＊another The United States warship

Anonymous

So you can see why they draw the distinction

Damkerng T.

7:08 AM

Nice distinction!

I wish I could star my own messages too. Not that I want it to be shown on the list, I just want to search for them more easily.

Anonymous

Is there anything you want me to star?

Damkerng T.

But that won't be included in my starred messages.

Anonymous

Oh! I see.

Anonymous

I didn't know you could see the messages you'd starred yourself

Anonymous

How do you do that?

Anonymous

7:09 AM

Is it part of search?

Damkerng T.

I'm still not sure. :-)

Anonymous

Oh :-)

Damkerng T.

I thought we could limit our search results to only the starred ones.

Freddy

in the list all the starred ones is by snailboat :-)

Damkerng T.

A-ha! It doesn't matter who starred it!

I wish this one would've been starred: chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/18355847#18355847

Thanks a lot!

My wish is granted!

Anonymous

7:12 AM

Yay!

Anonymous

I wish I took better notes.

Damkerng T.

I think note taking and journal writing are really useful.

They really help reorganizing our thoughts.

Anonymous

What the heck was I reading when I wrote "Masuoka calls it ellipsis"...?

Damkerng T.

Oh, that's a lot of stars!

0

Q: A steel glass Vs. A glass glass!

In India, it is quite common to serve water in a glass made of steel. Here it is... But then, we also have a glass made of glass(!) to serve it better. Here it is... My colleague asked that if 'Give me a glass of water' is a common expression without any ambiguity, how do we ask someone (I...

word-request word indian-english terminology

I bet that they don't really use steel.

Anonymous

A glass made of steel sounds like a contradiction in terms

Anonymous

7:19 AM

I suppose in InE the term glass has been generalized...?

Damkerng T.

It sounds like it can be used to mean a vessel in InE.

A crystal glass is not very surprising, though.

Hmm... or is it?

Anonymous

No, it's fine!

Anonymous

Better than fine.

Damkerng T.

Okay, we also have "wooden glasses".

Anonymous

But a "glass" will generally be relatively translucent

Anonymous

7:24 AM

@DamkerngT. "Wooden glasses" are things you see through with wooden rims

Anonymous

It is not the plural of wooden glass

Anonymous

At least, I would be rather confused if someone talked about a wooden glass

Damkerng T.

Oh, I found something on Amazon: amazon.com/StainlessLUX-77317-Stainless-Drinking-12-Ounce/dp/…

> StainlessLUX 77317 Double walled Stainless Steel Drinking Glasses, 12-Ounce/1.5 Cup, Set of 4

Anonymous

Notice that none of the reviewers could bring themselves to call them "glasses" :-)

Damkerng T.

A-ha!

Anonymous

7:26 AM

Oh, I'm wrong! If you click to view all reviews

Anonymous

I guess some people are comfortable with calling them glasses even though they're not translucent

Anonymous

Though a lot of reviewers choose to call them other things instead.

Damkerng T.

nods

The more I learn about English, the less sure about English I am! Now I'm not even sure what a glass could be!

Ice Boy

lol

Damkerng T.

@IceBoy Hello!

Anonymous

7:32 AM

I think a glass is prototypically something made of glass or a similar material, usually tall and cylindrical

Ice Boy

Hi pal

et al

Freddy

In my place if someone says glass then it is considered as glass made up of glass

Anonymous

But glasses come in a number of shapes

Anonymous

Glass can be a number of different materials, though

Damkerng T.

A plastic glass is common enough, I think.

Somehow, I tend to call it, a plastic cup.

Anonymous

7:35 AM

If it seems like plastic, I wouldn't call it a glass

Anonymous

A cup or a tumbler would be better, I think

Freddy

I think about shapes, it depends on what you want

like water or drink

Damkerng T.

@Freddy They also come in several shapes!

Anonymous

I have a 24 oz water bottle I refill and drink from

Anonymous

And an oversized tea mug for oversized tea!

Damkerng T.

7:37 AM

Can a glass have a handle?

Anonymous

Umm. :-)

Anonymous

I'm going to lean toward "no" on that one

Anonymous

But I don't want to say for sure

Ice Boy

Good question.

Anonymous

Actually, wait

Anonymous

7:38 AM

The old Oktoberfest mugs my old employer used to give me are made of glass, and they're tall like tall glasses

Anonymous

But I always call them "mugs" because they've got handles

Damkerng T.

Ah, tall glasses!

Anonymous

I never really thought about it before

Anonymous

You could get away with calling them glasses, maybe, although I wouldn't

Anonymous

But other people might

Anonymous

7:39 AM

Let's see . . . searching for "stein glass"

Anonymous

amazon.com/German-Style-Extra-Large-Glass/dp/B002STPP5Q/…

Anonymous

It's still a mug in my book

Damkerng T.

nods -- They also call it a mug, a glass beer mug.

Hey, but in the description, they call it "1 liter beer glass"!

Anonymous

I can imagine people calling them glasses.

Anonymous

But to me, it'd always be a mug :-)

Damkerng T.

9:01 AM

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Q: How to combine two sentences by using "who"?

I want to combine two sentences into one sentence by using "who", but I'm not sure how to do it. For example: We are not super user. We don't have root authority. Can I combine them into: We who don't have root authority are not super user. Is this #3 sentence correct?

american-english relative-clauses

I think this kind of question pulls our stat down a bit. We were at 98% answered. Now it's 97%. The question has already been solved or answered, and I feel like nobody would want to add anything to it. So when looking closely, 97% is not really bad nor it means that the site is getting worse in any way. However, from the outside, this stat could be a concern.

fahdijbeli

10:46 AM

Hi

can I say : The parameter name "abs" is exist ?

is exist is true ?

Anonymous

11:12 AM

"Is exist" is ungrammatical. "Exist" is a verb

Anonymous

I am not sure what you're trying to say

Damkerng T.

11:44 AM

@fahdijbeli Perhaps, try: a parameter named 'abs' exists.

Ice Boy

is in existence

Damkerng T.

12:04 PM

> ell.stackexchange.com/q/37877/3281

I think this following would be an answer, but it's so short, and I probably can't substantiate it up much.

> See page 12, sb. = substantive. Basically, it's noun.

I'd better leave it to others. :-)

Okay, I left a comment.

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. That's all you need to say.

Anonymous

You can mention that in the current version of the dictionary, now called the Oxford English Dictionary, they went and replaced all their sb.'s with n.'s

Anonymous

So there's really no difference here.

Anonymous

> From obs. senses of talent n.

Damkerng T.

@snailboat That's what I'm not quite sure of, the latest edition of the OED!

Anonymous

12:09 PM

Here, link to Wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Noun#Substantive_as_a_word_for_noun

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. It says n. :-)

Damkerng T.

A-ha!

Anonymous

You could mention that they'll find the same term in other older works on language, including older grammars and dictionaries

Damkerng T.

Thanks for the info. I will ~~steal~~ borrow your information and compose my answer. :-)

I posted an answer!

(Basically, most of the words are yours. :-)

Oh, thanks for the edit! I typed This terms is! Weird.

Oh, I don't like my on this Wikipedia section.

I remember I wrote it as on this Wikipedia page.

Then I saw that the link wasn't a link to a page, it was a link to a section!

Normally, I would use under a section.

But on a section is not too weird, I think.

I decided to go with in this Wikipedia section. :-)

Anonymous

12:33 PM

I think you can say page even if you're linking to a specific section

Damkerng T.

nods -- I think people say both.

Anonymous

I think "Wikipedia page" is probably more common

Damkerng T.

Quite possibly, I'm not really sure. It just sounds odd to me to say page when it's a section.

Anonymous

I can only tell you what I would say

Damkerng T.

nods

I found a strange but cute message when I clicked on the link StoneyB just posted!

> Hoooooo Doggey - where ya headed pardner?
We don't seem to have the page yer lookin' fer.
Mebbe we're callin' it somethin else now.
We suggest you mosey on over to the
JavaRanch home page

I didn't know mosey! That's nice word!

@snailboat Ah, I think this might sound a little better than in this Wikipedia section: in this section on Wikipedia

Anonymous

12:45 PM

I do generally like the sound of section on Wikipedia better than Wikipedia section

Damkerng T.

I can't find books rated in horseshoes.

Oh, found one! javaranch.com/journal/200508/Journal200508.jsp?print=on

Oh, I got it. I have to search for a book on the site! javaranch.com/bunkhouse/…

fahdijbeli

ah ok @DamkerngT. thanks

Anonymous

@DamkerngT. You can rate books out of anything.

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