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4:24 AM
@Sanjana just in case you havent seen a bazillion versions of that integral, it is commonly appearing in intro to QFT as similar to a part of the correlation functions. This integral infamously is troublesome. It should be a Bessel K function, and you can reason things out from there. You can also show its asymptotic behaviour, approximate it in various ways, etc. If the argument in the paper is just nonsense, you might prefer to look at the rigorous derivations instead.
 
5:07 AM
GUYS i think spinor might have had kittens im not sure. spinor was surrounded by 2 kittens and possibly more it was hard to see but i got a picture of one of them
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they are a lot smaller than the picture makes them look. SO CUTE. the other one was moving too fast, but it was all orange, no white
 
 
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6:15 AM
awwwwww~~~
 
 
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7:31 AM
@Relativisticcucumber looks like the rep was not an irrep and spinor is not a spinor
Unless, spinor was a Dirac spinor from the very beginning, so she's always been reducible
Yeah, these lil potatoes must be Weyl spinors
 
 
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8:35 AM
@naturallyInconsistent Sorry for this late reply but yes, I have seen this integral. This isnt usually worked out in books, and that was the reason I found this QFT notes from a friend at a particular IIT.
Indeed from the last equation in the snapshot, they make a complex scaling of coordinates to convert that final integral into a "well known" integral form for a Bessel function.
So maybe the argument is wrong, but atleast the results are not...
This is how the complete solution looks like
 
@Mr.Feynman omg
 
8:50 AM
Hii everyone
I am unable to do one very trivial computation from Jackson
The relevant part is attached as a png file here.
I am unable to get the 2nd term in the square brackets of 3.114 of Jackson from 2.16 of the same book.
 
9:05 AM
@NairitSahoo I've uploaded the picture for you.
 
9:33 AM
@JohnRennie Thank you so much. I am new here and actually dont know how to do that
 
@NairitSahoo how far have you gotten?
 
2.16 has two terms. The first term follows directly from 3.70
The 2nd term of 2.16 I can't understand at all
 
The 2nd term of Equation (2.16) is the image charge term.
 
Yes, that's what I thought and said. But I am unable to get the exact functional form
What modification should I do to 3.70 to get that term?
 
You are getting this competely wrong. You have Equation (2.16) first and foremost. Then use Equation (3.70) twice to get Equation (3.114). It is clear that Equation (2.16) is in an earlier chapter and is not found by appealing to the later chapter. There must be some other way to get Equation (2.16)
 
10:03 AM
@naturallyInconsistent Oh, I mispoke... I understood eqn. 2.16 fully. When I said "The 2nd term of 2.16 I can't understand at all", I meant that I couldn't understand the term coming in eqn 3.114 arising from the 2nd term in 2.16.
 
@NairitSahoo you should get something from what we have already talked about, so where have you gotten?
 
@naturallyInconsistent Nowhere, you didn't say anything new. I am unable to get the 2nd term in the square brackets of 3.114
 
@NairitSahoo and im asking you what you have tried
 
Nothing in particular. I have no idea, where to begin. For example, I feel that I have to modify $\vec{x'} \to \frac{a^2}{x'^2} \vec{x'}$ But I don't think it will bring any changes in the RHS of 3.70 apart from something in the spherical harmonics which I cannot figure out
So I am guessing even the approach is wrong
Can you give some hints?
 
10:24 AM
@NairitSahoo This is a good first step.
But you should try something along that lines but in a systematic way
 
10:39 AM
hi
what r some non hidden variable proposals for quantum theory to emerge from
tell me the interesting ones
i mean non hidden variable theories
it shud b a different theory, not an interpretation
pls star this for people to answer
 
11:26 AM
guys what's your favorite physical theory
im pretty partial to quantum mechanics right now...
 
@SillyGoose qft and gr
 
11:52 AM
@SillyGoose string theory now
Before that GR :P
 
dang ya'll are moving into the lands of the unknown
 
I am seen people not considering QM/field theory/string theory to be particular "theories" because they deal with the formalism behind particular "theories"...A theory should be a model of some phenomena (like GR is a particular field theory and it is a model of gravitation)
Using that language, GR and QFT aren't even comparable...GR is a particular FT and QFT is just any field theory which is quantized. Why do people even compare them :)
No wonder introductory QFT is harder than introductory GR
 
@Sanjana yes. quantum theory>qft>standard model. the first one is a framework
similary, quantum theory>string theory. both r frameworks
 
i agree with your observation
 
@Sanjana Why do people say that there are only 4 fundamental forces? We don't know fully how to build the macroscopic world from the microscopic one. Are we sure that a new fundamental forces won't arise while attempting to describe some macroscopic aspect?
 
12:03 PM
another sequence of frameworks is : classical theory > least action theory> GR
but GR is a theory, not a framework
 
@NairitSahoo Umm...no idea. Also no idea, how is this possibly a remark at the thing I just said :p
But anyway, nice question...I am sure someone will answer.
 
i wud say some things r in between a theory and framework
it all depends on how much freedom u hav in the modeling
 
What are all the degrees of freedom you all know of? I know of fields, particles and strings only
 
but some people may say string theory is not a quantum theory, becuz non perturbative formulation is not known
in this approach, quantum theory>string theory does not hold
 
@RyderRude can you give reference?
 
12:08 PM
it was in a Witten video
 
i have been more partial to think of a theory as a particular manifold (with all the natural constructions) and action
 
Witten says string theory may explain quantum theory
it wud b expected for string theory to not b a quantum theory, becuz standard notions of spacetime shud not hold in quantum gravity
@SillyGoose i wud say manifold and action are all a specific framework for physical theories
 
@SillyGoose But there are non-Lagrangian theories too :p
 
12:11 PM
theory is a more general term... e.g. does stat mech have an action?
idk stat mech much
 
damn 😔
if you study a particular system in stat mech presumably it's governed by a Hamiltonian, which under whatever conditions can be transformed into a Lagrangian
at least in the land of textbooks
 
at least how i have learned stat mech so far, the data is still coming from the microscopic model of the system. you just don't know what microstate it is in exactly
but the possibilities are just the state space as per usual
whether u are thinking about classical phase space or quantum Hilbert space
 
yes
 
well...i have been feeling disillusioned with this systematic approach of physics 🤨 (trying to "mathematicize" physics). what do you guys think?
 
12:16 PM
@RyderRude This video is a bit old. Nowadays some people say that AdS/CFT is a non-perturbative formulation of string theory. There are branes and other non-perturbative objects on the AdS side but because of the duality: all of these are encoded in the CFT Hilbert space ^_^
But yeah...not all of them agree, simply because afaik there's no full fledged "proof" of AdS/CFT
 
@Sanjana yes... AdS/CFT seems to make string theory a subset of quantum theories
@Sanjana yes
@SillyGoose i think experimental physics is more messy
it's only theoretical physics that works with simple axiomatic approaches, as if it were just math
 
@Sanjana AdS/CFT was proved by Juan Maldacena in the late '90s.
 
@NairitSahoo It is not a "proof" per se. It was just a particular construction, an example (arguably the first correct one), if you will.
 
@SillyGoose If you learn n-lab higher categorical algebra you can continue doing 'math as pretend physics' instead of just studying physics
 
@Sanjana Oh ok
Does somebody know any resources which can help me understand Jackson?
 
12:32 PM
@Sanjana The other day people were quoting Witten as saying AdS/CFT is not really what we care about
 
Yeah...Even I also don't think AdS/CFT should only be a guiding principle atmost. Some people are doing dS and celestial holography nowadays...but I think some day we must get rid of that background dependence if we are doing quantum gravity.
(I think because Smolin made me think :p)
 
12:47 PM
theres a guy @ IIT madras who does geometric quantisation, but is by and large a mathematician. I plan to approach him to give me a reading summer project, I was just wondering, this stuff is physics right?
 
@nickbros123 What is your intention going into this?
 
Run far away
 
@naturallyInconsistent well my intention was to just read something under the guidance of someone close to my house (which is close to IIT madras), and I was planning to read / do a project in math-. I was just scouting professors, and I came across this interesting profile
@bolbteppa lol
 
@nickbros123 ok, but I was asking for your current impression of geometric quantisation and what you think you would be researching on
 
12:58 PM
what I would research on in the future? who knows! I dont know the first thing about anyy of this, I thought geometric quantisation was physics
 
Its mathematicians trying and failing to formalize physics
 
I see
 
Which problem in Jackson is considered to be very hard?
I have seen many problems are actually easy...or maybe they are so popular nowadays that it seems that they are easy
 
I found some of the bvps hard
 
Technically, it is physics. It is, however, slightly more formalised than canonical quantisation, but not able to be a quantisation scheme that always works.
 
1:05 PM
but maybe cuz of my severe lack of background
i started doing jackson whithout taking ode let alone pde xD
 
@nickbros123 How much of Jackson have you read? I was having a problem with eqn 3.114...I posted the question earlier today here.
Can you have a look when you are free?
@nickbros123 I am in UG 2nd year, so I know a bit about these things
 
@naturallyInconsistent What is the difference between em waves of different mode, assuming polarization and intensity profile is the same, how do they differ if they are of different mode? What's visible or in any other form different ?
 
@NairitSahoo damn that looks ugly. im in a bus rn, have u tried taylor expanding stuff
 
@imbAF Isnt it just that the frequencies and wavelengths are different?
 
should they?
 
1:14 PM
@nickbros123 That wont work. He needs to simply work out the algebra. All the prerequisites are already there for him to copy and just apply the algebra faithfully
@imbAF Have you never seen normal modes in classical mechanics?
(Also, I gtg.)
 
@naturallyInconsistent Okay. i was just hoping that it can just be "seen" without doing the math
Not that I wont want to do it if it is required
 
Like first of all what is the criteria for modes? For example TEM, are classified as such because $\vec k$ is perpendicular to $\vec E$, while laguerre gaussian modes are classified as such because the spatial distribution of $\vec E$ or intensity profile (two different things) are circular, ring-like. So here you have two different criterias for the classification of what a mode is
or how a mode is assigned to a wave
 
btw...@NairitSahoo There's a new version of Griffiths in market.
 
how do people make new theories
 
@naturallyInconsistent oh wait, this is just plug and chug
 
1:24 PM
@RyderRude ?? They encounter something unexplained/poorly explained, and make guesses about what's going on.
 
@WaveInPlace oh
@WaveInPlace i have no idea how to make guesses...
 
You make dozens of theories every day, from "when will the bus come?", to "will it rain?". There's nothing special about the process.
 
@Sanjana whats "crystal ambiguity"
 
@Sanjana Thanks. Is it like Jackson?
@nickbros123 Is it? How to do it...I am stuck.
 
@nickbros123 If you want to calculate polarization in crystals, you need to make dipoles: given an ion, there's an ambiguity in the choice of an oppositely charged ion, and hence an ambiguity in the overall polarization. Different choices give different values of polarization...
So in some sense, $\mathbf{P}, \mathbf{D}$ etc are not well defined, only changes in these quantities are "physical".
@NairitSahoo Not even close :p
 
1:39 PM
dang theres a 5th ed of griffiths now?
@bolbteppa the reference is this video btw for anyone interested: youtube.com/watch?v=RjthuCDzAnY
 
Timestamp when he says it?
 
let me try to find it
 
1:55 PM
@Sanjana NOOOOO :'(
 
anyone here into spirituality ideas? and how does it interact with ur physics study
 
i think it starts at 12:20 @bolbteppa
what is with the focus on field lines :P
 
2:12 PM
@RyderRude Check out these secret antigravity research here :p
 
...why would they list both "unclassified" and "for official use only" at the top? Doesn't that mean that someone would need to strikethrough one of the two on every page. in every report?
 
It's probably declassified
Also maybe people don't care that much :p
 
It was printed on every page though. Before it was declassified did they cross out the "unclassified" bit!?
 
I've seen plenty of cranks working at the CIA
Although they should keep shit like this classified, it is very embarrassing for them
 
lol
 
2:20 PM
I wonder how it works
 
I think they're doing a public service by declassifying it. The stuff is hilarious to read.
 
"Gravity is the bane of aerospace transportation." is a fantastic starting line
 
It gets better! Their first proposal is to use portable neutron stars to cancel out Earth's gravity.
 
People just assume that people working at secret services know what they are doing but I am pretty skeptical
 
2:21 PM
I can envisage no downsides.
 
If you ever read that bit about the CIA investigating psychic powers, how that went down apparently is that the psychics performed their demonstration in a hotel room?
Which seems a bit sloppy as far as an experiment goes
You might want a bit of a more neutral ground to avoid any legerdemain shenanigans
 
Was that the one where they were on LSD?
Unrelated, apparently. Part of MKUltra was testing LSD in "normal" settings.
"As the experimentation progressed, a point arrived where outsiders were drugged with no explanation whatsoever and surprise acid trips became something of an occupational hazard among CIA operatives."
 
They are a wacky bunch
 
2:50 PM
@Sanjana thanks
this is well known physics. i wonder y they call it secret
@Sanjana is there also research on energy shields to absorb nuclear explosions
but i dont see any spirituality ideas there
 
Secret service people will classify plenty of things as a matter of course
I've seen declassified papers about statistical analysis of bolt defects
Or perturbation theory
Probably easier for them to classify everything than have to decide
 
lol
 
They have basically no oversight so they don't care too much I'd think
 
@RyderRude me!
 
3:07 PM
@MoreAnonymous hi. what ideas do u find interesting? and how do they interact with physics?
i like the collective consciousness @MoreAnonymous
i thought about its one implication on physics
@Slereah i think these people know that theyre writing bullshit papers, but they just get paid for writing impressive sounding things
 
Could be, but some of them are prolific and famously insane
 
yeah.. a few of them would have to be like that
 
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