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12:13 AM
Time to pray to the AP gods for college credit.
AKA play Skyrim for the next two hours and pray they don't ask questions about the stuff I didn't cram for.
@Qmechanic 1) Can you please give a hint on how to derive the identity mentioned in this? 2) Do you know of an accessible review of (super-)string field theory newer than arXiv:hep-th/0102085? Lubos recommended that in a fews years old post and mentioned it didn't cover some newer stuff. I found the string field theory presentation in BBS to be completely unsatisfactory, yet intriguing.
 
12:36 AM
I have a more important question: typing [math.se] gives me a link to Mathematics.StackExchange, how do I do something like that for StackOverflow?
 
@KyleKanos More important? >.>
 
@0celo7 Than yours ;)
 
@KyleKanos I beg to differ. Educating the young is a top priority.
 
@0celo7 How is my question not educating?
 
You're old.
 
1:07 AM
Hmm, how old is old?
 
My age + 3.
 
What's your age?
 
17.
 
You are young
 
Hence, educating the young.
 
1:36 AM
@0celo7 the top priority, as a matter of unspoken fact, is to 'educate' the young into producing the wealth required to keep the retired boomers living in relative luxury.
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Conflict of interest?
I've never seen that before.
 
^Link?
 
Holy crap, the equations in this paper are amazing.
+8 PDFs to the reading list that I'll never read.
arXiv is enabling my reading list addiction.
"A Hypothesis on the Nature of Time"
 
Swapped out OSes and stopped getting arXiv updates
 
Huh, I'm on arXiv, not viXra.
"The Observer Strikes Back"
Who OK'd that title?
 
1:50 AM
Anyone can post any title they want
 
@KyleKanos You reading anything interesting ATM?
 
Slowly making my way through Robertson's Relativity & Cosmology and also through Alexandrescu's Modern C++ Design
I'll eventually finish those and get started on things like Etienne Gilson's Methodical Realism
 
Yeah you mentioned reading Robertson's book. Is it anything special or are you reading it for the novelty factor?
 
Novelty factor mostly
It's actually kinda annoying because he uses a $ds^2=dt^2-c^{-2}dx^2$
 
Blasphemy.
Wait...Euclidean sig?
 
1:54 AM
Throws everything off for me. Though I try keeping to a $c=1$ system, it's hard to ignore it
Sorry, good call
 
Ah! Crappy signature and $c$ placement!
Who in their right mind uses +---
 
The +--- and -+++ don't bother me
 
@KyleKanos What is the chapter on automorphisms about?
 
Haven't gotten there yet
On Diff Geo
 
Is it particularly advanced?
 
1:58 AM
Well it's actually transcribed lecture notes
I imagine it'd be much better if I were in the classroom setting
But it's really just "Here's [this] and if you do [this'], you get [this'']" and so on
But it's not particularly good. Which is why I'm glad I got it for free
 
I really need to know what the automorphisms chapter is about. Pretty pls?
 
When I get there
It's in the other room & I'm watching Warehouse 13
 
That's still on?
 
I don't tihnk so. I think it was cancelled/ended last year
But It's on Amazon prime
 
I need to know so I don't add another book to my reading list.
 
2:03 AM
Eh, I'd say no
Don't add it
Given then non-standard metric, etc
Forget it
 
@KyleKanos I won't add it because I won't be starting any new projects in the next year (maybe even two) that don't have "string theory" or "large scale structure of space-time" in the titles.
Surely you'll be at that chapter by then.
 
I should hopefully be done the book long before a year from now
 
2:19 AM
@KyleKanos Good. Cya, have to get AP exam sleep.
 
Hey guys, can someone explain to me how the gif in one of the answers shows that the diffracting light would cause a pattern? physics.stackexchange.com/questions/61455/…
 
@Howcan it would not. That would give a regular no-interference intensity pattern
aw I can't ping him here
 
I just don't see how a single single slit causes a diffraction pattern :c
The math behind is way too advanced for me, maybe one day.
 
@Howcan well the animation shows no interference, first of all!
@Howcan you should play around with this until you get it :D falstad.com/ripple
The intuition is that each wavelength-long slit acts like a source
(in REALLY handwavey terms)
 
2:36 AM
@NeuroFuzzy I'll check it out right now. Handwaving is probably the best option for me as of now anyway.
 
so if you have a two-wavelength-long source, that's kinda like two point sources.
 
@NeuroFuzzy Actually, I'll check it out later, applets are a pain.
I could see the pattern emerging if two point sources came out of the slit.
Is this perhaps a better animation
 
@Howcan Heheh they are but it's a really fantastic applet! Uh chrome hates them, but internet explorer doesn't mind them.
That is indeed a much better animation that shows interference!
chrome removed all its support for something involving applets I think. It's a bit sad that so many cool java applets are just too big of a pain to use now.
 
@NeuroFuzzy awww, but chrome is so nice. Yeah I'll try opening it on a different browser soon.

Anyway, nice. So I guess the next step would be to understand why n number of point sources leave a single slit when hit by plane waves.
 
Well I've really only ever seen it as really handwavey.
in that phrasing*
 
2:50 AM
The gif shows "a slit of width equal to five times the wavelength of an incident plane wave" btw.
 
@Howcan have you done Fourier transforms before?
 
Not even close.
Haha.
 
Aw okay. What about integration/integration by parts?
 
Yup.
 
Well then you really can go through all the math for this :)
@Howcan Maybe you can find someone to walk you through it, but really all you need is integration by parts and the rest follows! (I would but I have a crapton of homework to do)
 
2:54 AM
I have a crapton of work too, I really should not have procrastinated. And yeah I'll go through it with a friend or something. Do you maybe have a source for it?
 
I would just google for it, but here's how I'd solve the problem: This equation completely describes everything in all the animations you've posted: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_equation#Introduction you can remove time dependence (so as to just look at intensity!) by going to the Helmholtz equation en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helmholtz_equation, and then you can do a Fourier transform with respect to the Y axis.
You're left with an equation of the form $\frac{\partial^2 \Phi}{\partial x^2}=A*\Phi$, which has sine/cosine as its solution
(Right? I hope you agree that $d^2\Phi/dx^2=A\Phi$ is a pretty simple equation to solve)
someone has to have worked this out in a nice PDF where they also introduce the Fourier transform
The Fourier transform isn't magic. You just have a function $f(y)$ and you multiply by $e^{-i \omega y}$ and integrate from $-\infty$ to $\infty$. $f(y)\mapsto g(\omega)=$\int_{-\infty}^{\infty} f(y)e^{-i \omega y} dy$
so it's just another integral (used in a clever way)
(@Howcan )
(it is a lot, yeah)
 
@NeuroFuzzy Thanks! This seems like a nice challenge problem for me.

You should do your homework before an accidental all nighter.
 
3:12 AM
Yep! I should...
 
3:43 AM
@0celo7 There have been a number of high profile scandals in recent years. Mostly in biosciences, but once a bureaucracy gets moving its not likely to be discriminating.
In the US you've had to declare conflicts on interest in the grant application paperwork for some time.
 
@Howcan Did you watch the lectures I told you about? They explain all of that, you're actually not too far from it.
 
4:09 AM
@Icosahedron I'm going through them slowly, although I've been focusing a lot more on the math.
 
 
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5:27 AM
@KyleKanos rule of thumb: has exactly one correct answer, has an open-ended list of correct answers
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9:08 AM
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Q: Is the Milky Way's halo curved spacetime?

smithjohn52This question has nothing to do with dark matter. This question is discussing a theory which states the notion of dark matter is incorrect and the Milky Way is moving through and displacing the 'dark mass'. Some physicists are starting to realize the notions of dark matter and the dark matter p...

And I thought to be stubborn myself...
It seems that stubbornness is an unbounded quantity
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10:39 AM
@0celo7 what AP?
 
 
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2:51 PM
Is anyone else concerned that this "paradox" doesn't seem to have a clear resolution?
It think the answer should be similar to "shutting the pole in the garage" in the pole-barn paradox - something about our reasoning in the frame of the nail must be off.
The answer by Haz seems to be the correct one.
 
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3:11 PM
@ACuriousMind My only concerns are (1) that there are wrong answers and (2) that the tradition of teaching relativity via paradoxes is still going strong.
 
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Seriously, it's not like it's considered acceptable to teach biology in terms of riddles, or topology in terms of brainteasers, or mechanical engineering in terms of limericks. Why are we still teaching relativity in a maximally confusing way?
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This has bothered me too, and I think the answer is because Einstein set it up with all these weird gedankenexperiments, and everyone is emulating Einstein although our modern understanding of SR and GR probably surpasses everything Einstein knew.
 
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Was it from this site that I was pointed to the paper Einstein tried to publish proving gravitational waves can't exist?
 
@ChrisWhite I think I recall someone posting about that when we last ranted about paradoxes in relativity ;)
 
 
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4:30 PM
@yuggib This guy's posted that rant as an answer on like 6 different DM threads (all have been subsequently deleted after heavy downvotes)
 
5:15 PM
@KyleKanos And I guess that contextually he has contributed with constructive and interesting comments... (T_T)
 
@ACuriousMind The answer by Haz is correct and is the same as the resolution as for the barn and pole paradox, just hidden behind the veil of our day to day assumptions about what it means for an object to be solid.
@ChrisWhite It's historical isn't it? I mean, that is the way the powerhouse minds of the early twentieth century posed question about the meaning of relativity to each other.
And it is a problem because we ask the same questions of people without the maturity of physical-thought to accept the consequences.
 
@ACuriousMind Hah, we've had this discussion so many times
@0celo7 About 75% of people, as far as I can tell
Btw, do "your countries" also have some day during which they have a few minutes of silence to commemorate World War II (or I? Maybe in France?)? Today's the day in the Netherlands, but I'm curious whether this is a widespread thing or not
@yuggib I really want to post "please leave this site, and do not bother returning"
 
5:45 PM
@0celo7 Particle physicists. Or does the "right mind" qualification let us out? (About choice of the +--- signature in relativity...)
 
@dmckee Mukhanov does it too! I hate it :P
 
@Danu Well, yeah. But you also draw time increasing up the page, which "everyone" knows is just ... wrong.
 
@ACuriousMind This is probably quite late, but I haven't read all of the Lie algebra lecture notes, and I've since moved on to two textbooks recommended by Danu.
 
@dmckee Wait, what? Draw time increasing up? In what context
@JamalS Which ones would that be lol?
 
@Danu The Lie algebra and representation theory ones from Springer.
 
5:48 PM
@Danu Most relativist draw space-time diagrams that way, don't they? While Feynmann diagrams usually have time increasing to the right.
 
@dmckee Oh, that. You mean conformal diagrams?
@JamalS Titles? I know a lot of books that'd fall in that category
Or rather, authors?
 
One is by Brocker and Dieck.
 
Oh right, I was interested in that one
I tried Humphreys book
it was nice, but too hard for me :(
 
I also downloaded Humphrey's but haven't gotten to it yet.
 
@Danu The second Sunday before the first Sunday of advent is Volkstrauertag here, which commemorates all victims of wars, and in particular the dead of WWII, and it is a "silent day", where some "non-silent" activities are actually forbidden by law.
 
5:50 PM
Now that you've said that, maybe I'll hold off on that one.
 
@ACuriousMind No idea what day that'd be lol
But okay, I expected something to be in place in Germany, at least
 
@Danu It's somewhere in mid to late November :P
 
non-silent activities? Like what?
 
Damn my chicken wings in the oven look good
@yilduz Mowing the lawn, probably
that's forbidden on Sundays here in Munich LOL
 
@Danu lolno
 
5:54 PM
@Danu Forbidden in Spain on Sundays as well.
 
That seems so weird to me.
 
Absolutely ridiculous... I thought the government was suppose to be secular...
 
@JamalS Is that "disturbing the peace" or "keeping the sabbath" related?
 
@dmckee The second, as far as I'm aware.
 
@yilduz It varies from federal state to federal state and what specific day it is, but on Volkstrauertag, in all states, most public events that include loud music or cheering of some sort (think sports events, dances, etc.) are forbidden.
 
5:56 PM
That's strange to me.
Here, in the US, on days like that you expect sport events, dances, etc.
Maybe not dances, but sporting events for sure.
 
Hmm.. I'm not so sure about that
 
@yilduz Yeah ... but it annoys some of the people who live near those things and contributes to reduced property values near sites that host those events which may be a piece in the urban decay jigsaw.
 
Sports events on veteran day? Is that a thing?
 
Well, veterans day is at a weird part of the year.
 
Doesn't matter, take California
 
6:00 PM
But, think Memorial Day and baseball.
 
@yilduz It's commemoration of the dead. Doing "loud" or "fun" activities is considered disrespectful of the character of the day, I guess.
 
But, why even mourn?
 
I guess it would depend on how a person/community views mourning and respect, especially for military.
Baseball is viewed as an American thing, so to play baseball on Memorial Day makes sense because you're honoring those who died serving our country by doing something very American.
It can also be viewed in a sense that, "don't mourn my death, but celebrate my life". Some people prefer that.
I can understand that people look at such things in different ways, but to have actual laws about it is what is weird to me.
I mean no disrespect or anything. I just found it interesting, and it kind of caught me by surprise.
 
@yilduz Well, it's not explicitly commemorating the soldiers (since we did want to set it apart from the old Nazi "day of heroes"), it's commemorating all those killed by war. It's not meant to honour anyone, really.
 
@Danu In france is may 8th for the second war, 11 november for the first. In Italy is april 25th (second war as well).
 
6:07 PM
Ah, okay. That makes sense, and I appreciate the explanation.
 
@JamalS Gots to remember mainnn
 
I guess just being American makes me look at it from a very different way. Obviously we would see the war itself from a different view as well.
But the idea of a law as you've described being proposed here, I imagine would be met by fierce opposition. People here would look at that and say "The government has no place telling me how to mourn, celebrate, show respect, or otherwise."
 
@yilduz The law is met with opposition and petitions for abolition on days like Good Friday, but no one is seriously proposing abolishing it on commemoration day, I think, since just saying "freedom of speech/expression/whatever" doesn't cut it here on things with historical baggage such as that day.
 
What holds it back? Is the opposition large?
Also, is the law enforced? Or is it one of those laws that exist but people don't take seriously?
 
@yilduz The churches are the main force campaining for the prohibition of dance to be upheld on Good Friday and some other holy days.
 
6:19 PM
Sorry for asking so many questions. I'm just really curious, it's interesting.
 
@yilduz It is enforced if someone breaks it, but, being German, very few people actually break it in the first place :P
 
lol fair enough.
 
@ACuriousMind Surely they don't have a chance? The government can't entertain such a notion on religious grounds.
 
Churches hold a lot of power, even where they shouldn't.
 
Even the people wanting to dance on Good Friday do not play music loudly and dance to it, they meet in front of churches dancing to music from headphones to protest while not actually breaking the law :D
 
6:21 PM
lol
 
@JamalS The political power of the churches in Germany is still surprisingly large for a nominally secular state. E.g. the largest policital party is explicitly Christian, and they will never agree to removing the dance ban.
 
Here the government passes oppressive laws based on the guise of "religious freedom".
"We should have the religious freedom to know that we're able to force our beliefs on other people."
 
@ACuriousMind Germans be edgy ;)
 
7:02 PM
@ACuriousMind Part of the problem there is that the side that is winning the culture war right now (label them H) is using a bunch of old law (public accomodation rulings) to force people from the group currently losing (label them S) to behave the in a particle set of ways that H considers to be right and moral. Now, just 40--50 years ago, H was protesting the way S was using those laws to try to force certain behaviors on H, but apparently its OK now because H is certain that they are right.
A more libertarian take would allow people to be a**holes if they want and hope that the market and time would sort it out. Alas, that doesn't work in a sick enough culture so we got used to bringing in the big governmental club in the 50's--80's.
 
@dmckee "Particle" set of ways? Can't help but get some physics in there, can't ya? :)
 
This forceful approach will, of course, work "better" in the short term but it guarantees a backlash.
@JamalS Heh. My fingers have minds of their own,. apparently.
 
@dmckee I'm not quite sure what you mean. I don't see that some inversion of power between any groups has taken place. The people who see their traditional influence on society waning simply cling to every bit of it they can keep, and tradition and bureaucracy are slow to change, but their influence is waning.
 
7:32 PM
@StanShunpike Psych.
That was...not as easy as I had hoped. There were terms and concepts on the MC that I hadn't heard of before or were oddly specific.
 
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@ACuriousMind And here I thought all those anti-dance folks were kicked out of Europe for being no fun, and sent off to settle America in the 1600s.
 
I don't really see what the big deal about dancing is... they can dance if they want to, they can leave their friends behind.
 
@ChrisWhite Heh, never thought about it that way
@yilduz That's indeed basically the argument for abolishing the law (and since I'm in favor of that, I can't tell you a coherent counterargument)
 
@0celo7 why does calc bc have to be at 8am? i usually wake up at 8:30am.
 
7:47 PM
I would be in favor of abolishing it too, because their friends don't dance, and if they don't dance then they're no friends of mine.
 
@Danu We must be reading very different books.
@Icosahedron You're a bum, that's why.
 
8:29 PM
@0celo7 Note: Most people do not do string theory.
@0celo7 That's kinda mean man :P
 
@Danu I've only started two string theory books. The only book I've seen use +--- is a particle physics book I read and Zee's QFT book.
 
@0celo7 ...so how many books with mostly plus did you read?
 
@Danu Zee, Weinberg (5 books), Wald, Carroll, Straumann, all string theory stuff I've looked at.
 
@0celo7 How many of those were pure GR books? :P
 
Pshh, that's not important.
Weinberg uses -+++ in his QFT saga.
 
8:33 PM
Okay, so maybe its Weinberg that's got you biased
in any case, I agree with mostly plus
Wick rotation is kinda stupid in mostly minus :P
 
Srednicki QFT uses mostly plus.
 
Plus I like East Coast over West Coast ;)
 
Peskin & Schroeder uses the heresy signature.
 
@0celo7 Heresy signature? Is that what you people are calling it now? Sheesh...
 
My way = correct
Anything else = heresy
 
8:37 PM
heretic is the correct word
 
Something can be heresy.
 
Yes
 
^
 
But it's a heretic signature
 
It is the signature of heresy.
 
8:38 PM
the adjective is the only appropriate thing
@0celo7 That's different from what you said before
 
@Danu Shouldn't it be heretical?
Heretic is a noun too.
 
@JamalS Oh, should it? My bad.
 
@JamalS I was thinking this.
I stand by heresy.
 
Ah, heretic is the person.
 
@Danu: Yes, heresy is the act, heretic is the person committing the act, and heretical is the adjective.
Precisely.
 
8:39 PM
English really butchers Latin :P
 
@0celo7 Heretical signature.
 
@JamalS No.
 
The correct intuition for Latin $\to $ Dutch/German is the wrong one for Latin $\to$ English
 
Heresy signature is short for signature of heresy.
 
@0celo7 You're already committing heresy by using the wrong signature, at least use the proper terminology :)
 
8:40 PM
@0celo7 Naw
Also, let us stop this pedantism and return to physics and unrelated bizz
 
Furry convention is a convention of furries.
 
@0celo7 Disagreement intensifies
 
Don't know where that came from.
 
@0celo7 thanks a lot.
 
@Danu: Let's change the subject?
 
8:41 PM
I know you're a furry @0celo7 it's okay
So what's your favorite suit
 
@Danu It's finally out there!
@Danu Cat, duh!
 
@Danu: Favorite suit as in brand or style?
 
@0celo7 You don't have a cat named Einstein! That's you in the pictures!
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@JamalS Animal.
@ACuriousMind 10/10
@Danu Say we have some other convention, e.g. a convention used in GR. Would you say it's the "general relativity convention" or the "general relativistic convention"? I think either is acceptable.
 
@0celo7 :)
@0celo7 Nah, the latter is better, clearly.
 
8:46 PM
I'd have to agree.
 
What about QFT? The QFT adjective sounds dumb.
 
For example, putting "relativity" in front fails to distinguish between convention of and convention on GR, which are totally different things.
@0celo7 Why do you think we write "QFT"? ;)
Actually, I use "field theoretical" all the time
but okay
 
@Danu Heresy is an acronym that just so happens to mean heresy.
Boom.
 
...*fizz* at best
 
@Danu: What was that in the oven?
 
8:48 PM
@Danu It was a reference to >heresy tier anyway.
Does anyone here like $\tau$ over $\pi$?
 
Don't even...
 
@0celo7 No.
 
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@0celo7 I actually debate this with myself all the time. I also wonder what happened to the hyphen in "general-relativistic" when used as an adjective before a noun.
 
@Danu Huh? @JamalS Why?
I'm not advocating it, just curious.
 
@0celo7 Well, in some equations it makes them neater, but in others it makes them messier; in the end it's just a factor of 2, and a transition can't be made now since the vast majority of texts use $\pi$.
 
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8:53 PM
@0celo7 Moot. Use a unit system that gets rid of all the areas of spheres everywhere :P
 
@JamalS How many equations use just $\pi$ without some factor of $2$?
@ChrisWhite Rational trig?
 
"In this book we will consistently set $4\pi$, $8\pi$ and $e$ to $1$."
 
@0celo7 Also, $\tau$ requires one extra character compared to $\pi$ in LaTeX :)
 
@0celo7 More than half.
 
I think that $\tau$ or a rational system where $2\pi=1$ is better for non-math people in high school.
 
8:54 PM
@0celo7 Who cares about high school students?
 
I think we should not really care about what people in high school think about math. notation
 
@Danu What book would that be?
 
The ones that have the potential to go further than high school will not struggle with radians and so forth.
 
@0celo7 Obviously, things like $8\pi$ don't actually simplify by using $\tau$. Counting only explicit $2\pi$'s will NOT yield a lot, clearly. Try any book on GR or QFT ($4\pi$ is much more common, I think)
 
@Danu I have never seen $8\pi$ or $4\pi$ equal 1.
 
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8:56 PM
@0celo7 $2\pi$ radians is 1 circumferan? And then $4\pi$ steradians is one... spherian?
 
"any book" is hardly right.
 
@0celo7 ?
 
I have 7 or so books on my shelf that use GR, 10+ counting QFT, and none do that.
And $e=1$ where the heck did you see that one?
 
Lol, are you serious?
One cannot set $4\pi$ to $1$.
Nor $e$
It was a joke
 
Not a very obvious one.
 
8:59 PM
Ah, I finally see the confusion
 
@0celo7 They're dimensionless, so you can't.
 
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@Danu Well, in my field we got rid of all the $4\pi$'s in Maxwell's equations. I'm still not entirely sure where they went...
 
@0celo7 This comment was a reply to a different one than I thought
@0celo7 It should be obvious though
Non-dimensional quantities are fixed.
@ChrisWhite That's different. You just set $4\pi \mu_0 = 1$
 
Hm, another debate: dimensionless or non-dimensional?
 
or whatever else you need
@JamalS Dimensionless
 
9:00 PM
@JamalS heretic
 
(my bad for the above)
 
You are pardoned.
 
@Danu <3
I don't like $2\tau$ in Maxwell's equations.
 
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@Danu $\mu_0$? What is this SI wizardry?
 
I just want to say... of all the SE chats, I've had the most fun watching this one.
 
9:01 PM
@ChrisWhite Have you forgotten?!
@yilduz Duh
You haven't even scrolled back up to my love life, have you? :P
you ain't seen nothing yet
 
@Danu Damn it, beat me to it!
 
lol Should I?
 
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@Danu I'm an astrophysicist. Haven't used SI for E&M in many years.
 
@yilduz Maybe
 
@Danu lol
 
9:02 PM
@ChrisWhite ...neither have I, but I still remember how to nondimensionalize haha
I guess it's because problem sets occasionally include a plug & chug exercise.
(still... sigh)
@yilduz anyways, the relevant parts are quite easy to locate by starred comments :P
 
@JamalS Do you know how to prove Eq. (4.24) in BBS / Eq. (4.1.22) in GSW? Furthermore, is the commutator in (4.23) in BBS implicitly evaluated on the SUSY vacuum (so the second term in the commutator vanishes)?
 
Anyhow, cyas I'm off to bed
 
Bai
 
Good night.
And I have my second IB exam tomorrow, so I should probably head to bed now.
 
Good luck, Danu. :P
 
9:08 PM
@JamalS Nooo I need an answer!!
@JamalS Wait...where do you live? I thought you're in Murrica.
 
@0celo7 I'm in Spain, but I'm British.
I go to an international IB school.
 
@JamalS I'll take a hint for the first question and a yes/no for the second!
 
@0celo7 Is (4.24) an OPE?
Or have we got different editions?
 
No, it's a Majorana spinor identity.
$\theta_A\bar\theta_B=-...$
 
Oh, wait, I read BLT. Ugh, let me get my hard copy of BBS.
@0celo7 It's just the Fierz identity from QFT.
 
9:15 PM
@JamalS Source?
 
P&S should have it.
 
And (4.23)?
 
I think you apply the transformation to (4.19) and find the variation.
 
But why does the second part of the commutator fall out?
 
Anyhow, I'm off to bed now too.
@0celo7 If you still haven't worked it out, message me again on here and I'll respond as soon as I can.
 
9:20 PM
Night
 
9:37 PM
@JamalS Huh. (4.24) was trivial to verify component-by component using elementary Majorana properties.
@ACuriousMind Very interesting.
 
@0celo7 You think?^^
I don't think I even have an opinion on that
 
I thought you loved Noether
I guess I have to rewrite my SE fanfic after this revelation
 
@0celo7 Yeah but...I don't even know whether I should be surprised by that result or not. Precisely because I love Noether, I'm not surprised when stuff that's conserved in some way turns out to be a Noether charge ;)
 
Funny how Wald uses his strange notation and terminology to this day.
 
@0celo7 Uh...how many pages have you got already?
 
9:49 PM
@ACuriousMind Enough to make me really mad if I have to rewrite a significant portion
Do you or do you not want Noether to be your waifu?
 
@0celo7 I would never dream of infringing on your creative process
 
"see, e.g. [paywall]" Screw you, Bob.
"A standard calculation [paywall] shows that" Joke's on you! I derived it on my own!
 
10:11 PM
@0celo7 Probably interesting, but I won't read it anytime soon, enough other things to do
 
@ACuriousMind Neither will I, sadly.
 
user54412
Random question: what exactly do you call those length markings in diagrams?
 
user54412
Things like <--- x ---> or `|--- x ---|'
 
The black hole crowd gives the QFT crowd a run for their money.
 
@ChrisWhite Uh..."end markers"?
But there's probably some obscure technical name for them :P
 
10:39 PM
@StanShunpike: What has happened to you?! You're... green?
 
...with envy?
 
10:56 PM
@ACuriousMind maybe I should forgo Stan shunpike and call myself The Chameleon. Doesn't have the same ring to it somehow. :D
Wow, but u r right! It is a neon green!
 

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