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5:18 AM
@KyleKanos congrats on your close votes reviews gold badge.
 
 
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10:09 AM
@BrandonEnright @KyleKanos shows no mercy... He closes questions like HELL..!!! :P
 
 
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12:27 PM
@BrandonEnright Haha, thanks. At the rate I'm going, I'll be #1 close voter in a few months
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut To be fair, I don't actually vote to close every question in the queue, there are some that I think are worth keeping around.
 
1:09 PM
@KyleKanos I know... I was kidding :)
 
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut OoOoOoOo
 
Alright, I take it back ^_^
 
I wonder how I am in the Edits queue
Ah, 373/500 for Copy Editor
Sweet
 
 
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2:44 PM
@KyleKanos Keep up the good work ;-)
 
 
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4:01 PM
^ A 2048 Clone that is all about nucleosynthesis
 
4:11 PM
@KyleKanos That's quite an easy one... I finished (and shared it) yest. itself :D
 
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut Daw! Too late, I am
I beat it my first try too
I made the mistake of just making 4He and bumping everything up
Then I realized that 24Mg does nothing for you
 
But, I really liked that idea of bringing star fusion with the 2048 theme :)
@KyleKanos Is that um, true? I'm still skeptical about that Mg...
 
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut In the game it doesn't do anything for you
 
Mg does nothing, and stays there as a garbage...
Yeah, in reality it'd absorb some flying nucleus to transform into something else (I guess)
Ah! Here comes the right person for stellar fusion... (Hey @ChrisWhite) :P
 
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut I'm an astrophysicist too you know
 
user54412
4:16 PM
I know no more than @Kyle about fusion I'm sure
 
@KyleKanos Oh, yeah... my bad, I'm used to asking AP questions to him (habit...)
Alright, so what happens to Mg?
 
user54412
@Waffle'sCrazyPeanut in stars, or in games?
 
@ChrisWhite starrrrrssss....
I just realized that nothing happens to Mg in games :D
 
I imagine that it can capture a neutron and turn into something else, but 24Mg is stable
 
user54412
Or maybe Mg-24 + alpha -> Si-28
 
user54412
4:20 PM
lots of low/intermediate mass elements are formed by alpha addition, which I think partially explains abundance patterns
 
@ChrisWhite I think you forgot a + gamma on the right side
 
user54412
hmm, so I have my stellar nucleosynthesis book open, and actually Si-28 + gamma -> Mg-24 + alpha is a significant photodisintegration pathway at a few 10^9 K
 
user54412
there's an idea: 2048 with random disintegrations
 
Ping @ManishEarth, he was ripping that game off... :D
 
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4:39 PM
@Shahar No, we're separate from the SE network, basically because we realised that a for-profit organisation is not the best place for an academic communtiy. For example, we should not have any pressure from minimum site graduation statistics (but we now happily have more than one and a half times as many visits TP.SE used to have, and 8 times more questions a day, excluding imports) and to avoid rudeness rules etc.
 
5:10 PM
No rudeness rules seems to be an extraordinarily stupid idea, but you'll find that out yourself at some point, I suspect.
 
@MadScientist I think he meant it to be to avoid rudeness, rules, etc. I could be wrong though
 
@KyleKanos Nope, Ron Maimon who is one of the admins there explicitly said that rudeness is necessary, and has practiced that on several SE sites. So they really mean that rudeness is allowed
 
@MadScientist Hmm. That's awful.
 
Anonymous
@KyleKanos No, it means avoiding rudeness rules. Frankness is encouraged on PO. And being frank often means being rude.
 
@DIMension10 Again, that's awful.
 
5:52 PM
@DIMension10 TP.SE used to have at the time of deletion, or at the time of creation? All new sites have a great spike in traffic initially, it dies down in some months. Be careful about this if you want to make it succeed.
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@ChrisWhite pretty easy actually
But I'd need the theme (all the atoms n all)
 
@KyleKanos one major reason the PO admins don't participate here anymore (or at least the reason they started a separate site) is that they didn't want to follow our rules on civility. I guess you were lucky enough not to experience that firsthand?
oh wait, I see it's already been said.
 
@DavidZ I started contributing around the time Ron got his 1 year ban and never really had any interactions with him
 
yeah, that whole kerfuffle was before your time
 
When I got up to 3k (and contributing more), the other PO guys were doing nothing but complaining about everything
 
6:22 PM
@DavidZ please do not misstate why PO was founded. At the beginning of our discussions about a new higher-level physics site, we considered some kind of restarting Theoretical Physics SE on Area51 too, but then we decided to not follow this approache because the SE model favors mass visibility of content that is understandable and useful for a large number of people, as explained for example here.
This makes site topics with a smaller audience (such as for example research-level theoretical physics) incompatible with the goals of SE. More about the goal of PO can be read for example on Quora. I personally do no longer participate on Physics SE, because I have no confidence in the people who are most active in site moderation issues today. But this is my personal problem, and it is solved for good by the birth of PhysicsOverflow.
 
7:02 PM
@Dilaton PLEASE, for the love of god, STOP misquoting me on that answer
NOTHING to do with understandable
It's completely okay if there's something high level
Just because YOU think that the only people who come to the site via Google are laymen, doesn't make it true for the rest of us
I've explained this multiple times
 
TIL: there's such a thing as relativity denialism -> skeptics.stackexchange.com/users/18702/wandera
 
The high level questions on the site get a good number of views too. They're too many to be from users of this site. And laymen wouldn't find it via google since the physics terms are densely used
 
I think Math Overflow shows that such sites can work inside the SE system. You just need to get a critical mass of experts for this to work
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agreed
 
But you can't start such a site from Area 51 alone, you need some people well connected in the field to really make the site known, or you recruit an existing community.
 
7:09 PM
@DIMension10 to be honest, we do all we can to keep sites open. sometimes sites die (i.e. people don't post anymore, or maintain the site), and we put them away for that reason. This was the fate of TP (no activity first, closure later). The fact we are a commercial entity does not mean that all we do is for commercial reasons. In particular we are pretty sure we'll never make any money off physics at all (let alone TP), but we don't care -- like wikipedia, we want to make the internet better.
Just like you and Dilaton, we like to help others and we use our money and resources to do so for free.
 
SE makes zero money from Phys.SE. The most they make is from the 0.1% users who find StackOverflow due to that (ads), and the 0.0001% users who find Stack Overflow Careers from there
 
to be frank, it also costs us close to nothing, if we exclude tshirts and unicoins to feed the moderators
 
@Sklivvz I have not gotten my unicoins
 
@Dilaton ok, well I won't presume to know why you are doing this outside the SE network. I can only state that the PO founders didn't want to follow our rules on civility.
 
^ which is what you had stated, really
"why they left", not "why they founded PO"
 
7:30 PM
wait, how can they have left if they are still around?
 
as in stopped contributing to the site
 
they still contribute, but solely in a not-very-constructive way
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