Maid Café (メイド喫茶)

I'd love to give it a go, but I'll need to do some decent research, so I don't get stuck in one of those companies that just use ALTs to make money off them in a bad way, I've heard/read about those

Martin - マーチン

@ToshinouKyouko the first chem class i gave as a teaching assisstent was a disaster

i had to learn a lot too

Asada Shino

They take a bigger cut out of the pay, than the rent is, you have to pay key-money, even though the building you're renting in doesn't require it, stuff like that

You can randomly be relocated without prior notice

mirroroftruth

@Martin-マーチン did you laugh out loud when you heard their talking like that for the 1st time while teaching

Asada Shino

Or would it be better to apply to a school personally?

I'm a developer at heart, so I don't know if I'd do well to start a teaching assistant job xD

Toshinou Kyouko

There will probably be some notable companies

So stay safe and go with them

Asada Shino

8:08 AM

It'd be an enriching experience though, I'm sure

Toshinou Kyouko

Ask ur embassy

Asada Shino

@ToshinouKyouko I'll have to do some research on that then :)

And yes, find out if we have one and ask them if there is one

Martin - マーチン

@AsadaShino maybe you want to start here: jetprogramme.org/en

Asada Shino

@Martin-マーチン That's the government funded one, right?

Martin - マーチン

@mirroroftruth that was back in germany... here i only do one on one sessions

@AsadaShino yes

Asada Shino

8:09 AM

Okay, I'll give it a look-see :)

Taisho

Martin - マーチン

if you apply, be persistent... try, try again ;)

mirroroftruth

@Martin-マーチン so after applying there can we still join uni and take both simultaneously

Asada Shino

Haha, thanks for the tip :)

mirroroftruth

Ganbatte kudasai :D

Asada Shino

8:12 AM

Ganbarimasu~

マーチンさんにおかげで, is that correct grammar?

Martin - マーチン

There was a very funny situation here when i was working with one of my co-workers... he was telling me what to type on a keyboard and we got to the point where he said "ell" and i typed l and then he was "no, the other one". So i typed L and he was laughing and said "no the other one: ellll". And then he pointed to r...

Asada Shino

xD

mirroroftruth

@Martin-マーチン :D

Asada Shino

I can imagine that being a bit confusing :P

r or l

mirroroftruth

there was one question posted here, about L and R of death note :D

Asada Shino

8:14 AM

@Martin-マーチン Was what I typed above in any way correct? :P My mastery of the Japanese language is quite... Lacking, haha

mirroroftruth

okay brb, lunch time, i will go grab some :D

Asada Shino

Okies, enjoy!

Martin - マーチン

@AsadaShino it seems to be correct

Asada Shino

\o/

Martin - マーチン

but my nihongo is crap XD

Asada Shino

8:15 AM

Hahaha

Martin - マーチン

@mirroroftruth Itadakimasu!

Asada Shino

'I only work here, I don't need to speak the language'

jk jk of course ^^

Martin - マーチン

hmmm, unfortunately that is true

one language class a week won't get you very far

Asada Shino

I can imagine that

Martin - マーチン

and it does not improve your vocab

Asada Shino

8:17 AM

Though regular interaction during/around classes probably helps a lot

Martin - マーチン

but if you do the ALT, you should be able to learn quickly

my friend does it and he has a lot of time to study

Asada Shino

Well, you have to translate some things too I reckon or you see things translated that you then have to say in English

Being in a class with students interested in learning another language is bound to have a positive effect on your understanding of their language

Is what I'd expect anyway

Martin - マーチン

yeah... the most positive things I heard is when people work in after school classes for private companies...

at least the interaction with the students is quite nice they say

the working hours are horrible though

there always is a catch

Asada Shino

I can imagine, those are the people that go out of their way to learn the language

They WANT to learn the language, since they do it outside of their normal work/school hours

Instead of just for school credit or something

You wouldn't go to a class you didn't like or weren't interested in, after normal hours

At least I wouldn't*

That'd just be a huge waste of time

I'm also still a bit confused as to how you politely say "you" in Japanese

anata is too personal, kimi sounds informal and I'm not going to start with temee, that's anime-speak (or rather, very informal or offensive)

Would kimi (君) still be the best way to say it?

Though you could probably refer to them by name, if you knew it

Martin - マーチン

the last one is the way to go

or just leave it completely

senpai-sama might work some times

Asada Shino

8:26 AM

I thought it'd get confusing, since you also usually don't say watashi/boku/ore when referring to yourself

Hahaha

"notice me"

Martin - マーチン

hihi... watashi is foreigner speak, they told me

Asada Shino

Had a hunch it would be...

It's the formal way to say it though

So I guess formally it's not wrong, just unusual?

Martin - マーチン

well it is formal, so you would probably say it in keigo, if you would be referring to yourself

Asada Shino

you don't say "watashi wa konbi ni iku", you'd say "konbi ni iku" and it would be clear what you mean

Martin - マーチン

but as far as I gathered you are not very often talking about yourself

Taisho

8:29 AM

Asada Shino

and when asking if someone wants to go there, it'd be "konbi ni iku ka?"

Martin - マーチン

yes... well konbini ni iku

Asada Shino

ahh konbini

another thing learned ^^

Martin - マーチン

not really, you would formally say konbini ni ikimasen ka?

Asada Shino

Ahh yeah, google also says it~ xD

Aha

Martin - マーチン

8:31 AM

or casually konbini (ni) iko?

Asada Shino

See, I have plenty to learn haha

Martin - マーチン

or iku?

it does not make a huge difference

Asada Shino

iko sounds better...

Martin - マーチン

iko means let's go, while iku means do you want to go

Asada Shino

ikimasen ka sounds like you're asking them not to go

Martin - マーチン

8:32 AM

it's one of those constructions...

Asada Shino

isn't that ikitai? though they mean the same things, one just means you intend to go, the other means you want to go

Yeah, subtleties that you wouldn't easily realise if you just learned it yourself through vocab and grammar learning

Martin - マーチン

yes ~tai is the wish to go, but it is not yet decided

Asada Shino

Don't know if it's very subtle, might not be if you take even a basic class

I see

This conversation is just getting me more excited to do it, haha

Martin - マーチン

in casual japanese there are many ways to say things... subtle differences... yes... but most of the time they won't expect you to know these...

Asada Shino

I mean, I have a VERY VERY basic understanding of the language, a VERY VERY VERY limited vocabulary, but I'd love to learn more of it

Martin - マーチン

8:36 AM

it's all about the communication and that works if you understand most of the things

well, having an interest is great to begin with

Asada Shino

Do you sometimes talk to someone in Japanese and they don't understand you because they thought you'd speak English? Or do you not look western? (I don't know where you are from)~

Ohh yeah German, sorry

You said it earlier, sorry~

Ignore my stupidity >_>

I'm pretty good with learning languages, I did well with German and French, but they didn't really interest me enough to keep me interested in learning them after I wasn't forced to in school and I never used them, so they sort of slipped out...

Martin - マーチン

I believe they are doing an updated version now, but you might want to check it: nhk.or.jp/lesson/english

Asada Shino

der, dem, das, die, whatever in German~ x_x

Martin - マーチン

haha... you are dutch right?

Asada Shino

Eeeyup

Mein Deutsch ist... Sehr schlecht ~_~
My German is... Very bad ~_~

xD

Doitsugo wa chou warui desu~

Though, doesn't that say that the German language itself is bad?

I'd have to add "watashi no" to it? Or would that not work the same way, since you are talking about your knowledge of or control over the language

ʇosɥıuon ʞʎonʞo

8:42 AM

@AsadaShino you should try writing in kana. Writing in romaji is not a good habit to have imo

Asada Shino

I don't know if you can say "My German" as "watashi no Doitsugo" and mean the same thing

@ʇosɥıuonʞʎonʞo わたしのドイツごはちょうわるいです？ Like that?

ʇosɥıuon ʞʎonʞo

@AsadaShino there are no bad questions here, except maybe bad I'd reqs

Asada Shino

@ʇosɥıuonʞʎonʞo Hahaha

Martin - マーチン

@AsadaShino you would probably avoid bad as a word

Asada Shino

I see

I'd have to form a more complex sentence, to explain that my control over the German language is lacking

Which contains about 80% words I don't know yet :P

Martin - マーチン

8:47 AM

you just say that you don't speak german

ʇosɥıuon ʞʎonʞo

@AsadaShino イエス

Asada Shino

Ahh

ドイツごはしゃべらないです

Haven't run that through google translate yet

Dunno if it's in any way right :P

Taisho

Asada Shino

Google says it seems right

Martin - マーチン

that means you do not speak german

Asada Shino

8:49 AM

Yeah, that's what you said, right? :P

Martin - マーチン

better: にほんごはあまりわかりません。

that means that you understand little japanese

or にほんごはあまりできません。

that means that you can do little german

しゃべる you would probably more use for a positive sentence

HamtaroWarrior

Yooo/

Martin - マーチン

にほんごはちょっとしゃべる。

ʇosɥıuon ʞʎonʞo

@HamtaroWarrior Yahallo

Martin - マーチン

@HamtaroWarrior o/

HamtaroWarrior

8:54 AM

What's up? :>

Martin - マーチン

ohhh darn.... i messed up the particles all the way....

を

it must be ちょっと　にほんご　を　しゃべる。

Meaning I speak a bit japanese...

@HamtaroWarrior nothing much :D

how about you?

HamtaroWarrior

@Martin-マーチン I'm in class, but I'm quite bored x)

Asada Shino

Haha

Martin - マーチン

@HamtaroWarrior what class?

Asada Shino

I'm getting more and more hyped as I am in this conversation~

HamtaroWarrior

8:58 AM

Communication skills & stuff

Martin - マーチン

(+.+)(-.-)(_ _) ..zz

(∪｡∪)｡｡｡zzzZZZ

hihi....

Asada Shino

Communication skillz

"yo yo yo!"

HamtaroWarrior

"Wazzup nigga? How you doin in da houz?"

Asada Shino

D:

Martin - マーチン

hahaha....

i predict flagz coming in ;)

Asada Shino

9:00 AM

I would not have gone that far and I am quite... Hesitant around racial slurs, be they intended or not

Herp derp English be hard langwidge

HamtaroWarrior

Meh, kidding but if it does bother anyone I can delete ^^

Asada Shino

Haha

It may not offend anyone here, but if it were in a more public place, it'd probably get SJWs up in arms

Martin - マーチン

it's fine i think

HamtaroWarrior

Yup, right.

In my school we all make fun of everyone, on every way. We laught about everything and everyone, therefore everybody is at the same state. So I sometimes take it over chats and extern discussions, where people don't act llike this

Asada Shino

That sounds like a nice atmosphere

Much better than I've had in my highschool

HamtaroWarrior

9:05 AM

It is. We are like a big family!

Asada Shino

Cliques, bullying, the works

It was mostly the... students in lower education that were doing that though

And over half of them were out by the second year

So it got a lot better after that.

They sort of eliminated themselves by their own incompetence

HamtaroWarrior

@AsadaShino I'm at the equivalent of university, not highschool. I had the same issues @ highschool

Asada Shino

I see

HamtaroWarrior

Engineering school :)

Martin - マーチン

yeah it gets better in higher education

Asada Shino

9:07 AM

In college I didn't really have much interaction with fellow students

I had a few good friends, but we drifted apart after a while as we were split up into different classes when we got to our specialisations

HamtaroWarrior

@AsadaShino At what kind of college did u go?

Asada Shino

I believe it's called University of Rotterdam in English

mirroroftruth

@Martin-マーチン Gochisousama deshita

Taisho

4

HamtaroWarrior

My question was more about the specialisation that you took :3

Asada Shino

9:09 AM

"Rotterdam University of applied sciences"

Ahh, Informatics

Programming and the like

HamtaroWarrior

Ha nice :D same here, informatic engineering!

Wooo \o/

ಠ_ಠ

ffff

\( ^o^ )/

9:15 AM

Chat on phone is annoying

mirroroftruth

it is

Asada Shino

Keeps refreshing the page

mirroroftruth

is that only

Asada Shino

So I can't type long messages

Martin - マーチン

@AsadaShino agreed, but it is thousand times better than same time last year

Asada Shino

9:16 AM

Can't remember it being this bad back then

But I didn't use i much back then on my phone

HamtaroWarrior

~(-w-)~

@mirroroftruth hi mate :>

mirroroftruth

@HamtaroWarrior yo/

Martin - マーチン

@AsadaShino it might have been langer though... i cannot remember...

but there was atime without a mobile version... and that made it almost impossible to chat

okay... i need to step out now, do some work for my money... see ya soon :D

mirroroftruth

@Martin-マーチン o/

ʇosɥıuon ʞʎonʞo

@AsadaShino what are your primary complaints?

Asada Shino

9:24 AM

@ʇosɥıuonʞʎonʞo Page refreshes randomly was the only thing that annoyed me just now. I tried to type a message, halfway through, the page refreshed and the message was gone, I thought that was my fault so I tried again, it refreshed again, then I knew it was the website itself

Septian Primadewa

The actual saying is: Give a man a fire, keep him warm for a day. Set a man on fire, keep him warm for the rest of his life. — Aaroninus yesterday

HamtaroWarrior

33

Q: How to deal with a slowly learning user?

So I met this certain user who posted their homework problem on SO. They put some effort into answering their questions IMHO and are slowly getting there. They got here already public class Assg2 { public static void main(String[] args) { String w1 = args[1]; String w2 = ar...

Asada Shino

Hahaha

HamtaroWarrior

@SeptianPrimadewa this post? :D

The comments are hilarous :D

Toshinou Kyouko

another kyouko appeared!

@HamtaroWarrior hello fellow kyouko

HamtaroWarrior

9:29 AM

@ToshinouKyouko We are the Kyouko unite. We don't forget. We don't forgive. Expect us (even more if you got some Rhum-Raisin ice-cream >:D)

mirroroftruth

we are going to have lots of Kyouko

Septian Primadewa

we need kyouko day, everyone change their avatar to kyouko

mirroroftruth

i did already though :D

was thinking to change name also but i didn't

HamtaroWarrior

@ToshinouKyouko I had my Fuko avatar for so long, wanted to change :)

@mirroroftruth Into what name?

mirroroftruth

@HamtaroWarrior of course Toshino Kyouko :D

HamtaroWarrior

9:36 AM

Oh! But it would be a pain in the neck to have a lot of people named the same way o:

Thought you wanted to take one of your other pseudo ^^

mirroroftruth

that is one of the way, one day we might

HamtaroWarrior

In some games, my other login pseudo is Fap2BeKawaiii >:D

mirroroftruth

@HamtaroWarrior elongation i~ sound more lewd

HamtaroWarrior

@mirroroftruth I don't get it ._.

mirroroftruth

@HamtaroWarrior okay that Fap other is lewd word right or it does have some other meaning

Asada Shino

9:39 AM

Lol xD

Taisho

mirroroftruth

i think i have to think twice, here people use lots of abbreviation

ʇosɥıuon ʞʎonʞo

@SeptianPrimadewa March 28 Japan time

mirroroftruth

@ʇosɥıuonʞʎonʞo i think it is a good idea, how long

HamtaroWarrior

@mirroroftruth no, it's the lewd meaning of the word, but I don't get you elongation i~ thing x)

mirroroftruth

9:42 AM

@HamtaroWarrior saying it at climax

i think i have lewd brain, i need to do something about this

HamtaroWarrior

Lewd is great :3

mirroroftruth

@HamtaroWarrior for me it is, till now

HamtaroWarrior

Fu html marking doesn't work here..

mirroroftruth

i don't know

i don't know how to use simple one

HamtaroWarrior

HTML is easy as pie, you just need to know the name of the marks

mirroroftruth

9:49 AM

i can't remember the name

HamtaroWarrior

Google is love, Google is life!

mirroroftruth

ya i do, Google sensei is the one

i get most of the help from Google sensei :D

HamtaroWarrior

I have a friend applying for a Google internship. So he's basicly asking Google-sensei to notice him :D

mirroroftruth

then it should be Senpai

HamtaroWarrior

Mhhh Sensei can be used to. But then it is not legal anymore :>

mirroroftruth

9:53 AM

the one worth to be noticed is senpai, sensei are do notice and are old to be noticed

unless sensei is wakai loli :D

HamtaroWarrior

Kawaii-loli sensei... Nose bleeding sound

mirroroftruth

@HamtaroWarrior you are Kyouko, you don't nose bleed

HamtaroWarrior

My profile picture disagrees xD

mirroroftruth

my Kyouko is taking time to show

Toshinou Kyouko

10:08 AM

@mirroroftruth hello

@HamtaroWarrior I hope he's ready for like 7 interviews or something

HamtaroWarrior

@ToshinouKyouko Don't worry, he is

@ToshinouKyouko he's been preparing

mirroroftruth

@ToshinouKyouko there you are

now we have more kyouko :D

Hakase

just yesterday I was thinking how a game sucks sometimes just because you have to deal with other players which do stupid things you couldn't imagine

morning btw

Madara Uchiha

@Hakase That's why I usually opt to sitting back, relax, and blow their brains out.

Unihedron

morning

Madara Uchiha

10:17 AM

I like to play sniper.

Hakase

22

A: "noone", "no one" or "no-one"?

"no one" is the correct one. noone is the common misspelling of "no one". "Noone" is formed for consistency with "nobody", and also its opposites "anyone" and "everyone", but it is still considered nonstandard because of the doubled vowels creating a temptation to read and pronounc...

mirroroftruth

@Unihedron yo/

Unihedron

yo/

counts the amount of kyoukos in the room

Hakase

I like how "no-one" looks and it shouldn't be confusing on line breaks

10:19 AM

> Amount vs. number. Amount is used in reference to mass nouns (i.e., uncountable nouns such as bravery, water, and charisma). Number is used in reference to count nouns (i.e., countable nouns such as dog, year, and eyeball).

Toshinou Kyouko

I like noone

and no-one

Hakase