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I have been using Uber on two occasions where I became quite a fan. Not only because of the ease of usage, but also because of the very interesting fees (cheap). When I arrived in Rome I noticed that Rome2Rio now includes Uber in their proposed routes. However, Uber seems to be more expensive the...

MeNoTalk

especially with this game (2048)... man its addictive

andra

it appears to be incorrect

Uber is cheaper then a regular taxi

Rome2Rio is wrong in its price predictions

MeNoTalk

I use it in Jakarta.. and yes it is cheaper..

andra

should I delete the question, or should I put that info

MeNoTalk

12:18 AM

the problem as mentioned in the answer.. you are going with the higher uber classes...

andra

I love UBER

but even then, that is cheaper

we did a race yesterday through

one part of the group took a regular taxi

my group took uber

MeNoTalk

and..?

andra

they paid 11 euro for the same trips where I paid 8 euro's

MeNoTalk

ouch!

andra

they were driving a fiat multipla, I sat in a mercedes

MeNoTalk

12:19 AM

so, rome2rio is what to blame..

andra

indeed

I am actually going to delete the question, since it is incorrect

MeNoTalk

here in Jeddah regular taxis do not use meters.. so i can get better prices with regular taxis.. but i love Uber..

yes.. better to delete it.. and email rome2rio..

anyway, i am sure they are using Uber API..

andra

Can't delete it, so I wrote a disclaimer

Unfortunatly where I live the judges don't like modern technology

they forbid any new technology

"because it hurts the economy"

MeNoTalk

@andra can you give me a google link with the same trip you had, i wanna test the API and see what is the result..

if it is 25 EU then uber API is wrong, if it is less then rome2rio is wrong..

@andra u do not have uber where you live?

i agree with the judge anyway..

andra

You mean the exam in the quesiton

or the one where I "raced"

MeNoTalk

12:24 AM

yes..

so i can get long+lat for start and end points

the one in the question so i have a reference

andra

It is from the Termini train station in Rome to the Vatican

I went to the Vatican on monday

which I can really recommend

it is is impressive

MeNoTalk

I've been there..

andra

And on my way to my hotel I met a group of students, which in the end turned out to be priests

it was funny

MeNoTalk

in 2012 or 2013.. cant remember..

andra

Did you get into the vatican?

I came after 19.00 so I could only be on st pieter square

MeNoTalk

12:27 AM

not inside inside

andra

Ah yes I forgot I need to make an update on my aviation question

the ash trays in b737 are definitly not inside but outside the lavatories

MeNoTalk

yes on the doors..

Andrew Grimm

2:40 AM

@MeNoTalk Deborah Lipstadt actually.

Gayot Fow

3:00 AM

@MarkMayo Have you watched the second episode yet? About Ethiopia? It's even better, and may provide enough to answer the question about trekking in Addis Ababa.

Mark Mayo

5:48 AM

@GayotFow yeah watched last night, listened carefully and researched the places, but even lalibela is two days' drive from addis :(

@GayotFow, and mods @mindcorrosive @RoflcoptrException @ankur-banerjee there's this new 'visa specialist' guy, who seems to be posting a few random answers without links, and saying 'if you have further questions ask me'. Should we be keeping an eye on said people for possible misinformation/visa scams?

@GayotFow but yes, I enjoyed the second even more. And the bit about the Ark of the C, I hoped they'd try hunting it down a bit more but when you're banned from the church it's meant to be held in, it makes it tough

barred, not banned, that is

JoErNanO

9:55 AM

@andra flag it for moderation and explain the reasons for deleting it.

Also, why are you taking taxis? Get a daily pass for the metro (4Euros) and enjoy the ride with the rest of the Romans. :)

JoErNanO

11:25 AM

@MarkMayo travel.stackexchange.com/questions/5312/…

I thought I would add my twenty pence.

Gayot Fow

1:24 PM

@MarkMayo regarding the 'visa specialist' there's an article I wrote here londonelegance.com/transpondia/spotting-bottom-feeders-0

@MarkMayo Regarding Ethiopia, the documentary pointed out that the locals are in the habit of making pilgrimages to various sacred sites. And there's not much difference between 'pilgrimage' and 'trek' from a logistics point of view. The only real problem I see is the stigma of being out of place... This could attract authorities.

andra

2:07 PM

@joernano The daily pass costs 6 euro

but I wasn't in Rome for leisure. I really didn't have much time to explore

So I was in Rome for 4 days and I only saw my hotel en the vatican

I need to get back for a proper vistit and then I will definitely go for the metro

hippietrail

2:34 PM

greetings from melaka

JoErNanO

3:06 PM

@andra Damn they increased it.

MeNoTalk

@hippietrail selamat datang

Gayot Fow

3:18 PM

Note on this travel.stackexchange.com/questions/39160/…

New rules are coming in the beginning of 2015 that are even MORE restrictive. The answer will remain correct, but more people will be hit

MeNoTalk

@GayotFow what do you call these small medical centers in the UK?

G something?

Gayot Fow

A GP (General Practitioner) works in a 'Medical Centre' within the overall purview of the NHS. So you have the basic term, but spelled it wrong. Centre.

MeNoTalk

lol

I went there once, and they didn't charge me.. they even give me medicine for free. I was a student there back in 1998...

Gayot Fow

Students with a visa more than 6 months are ok.

MeNoTalk

nice..

US, with all its glory.. can't treat its citizens...

Gayot Fow

3:25 PM

but overall people are getting really angry about NHS abuse. Very angry

Americans think it is socialism and should be avoided

MeNoTalk

we have free medical care in saudi, but no one cares.. public hospitals are a disaster.. you need weeks before you get an appointment, unless its an emergency..

Gayot Fow

There's some of that here also. Some politicians want to privatise the NHS because of that

Gayot Fow

3:49 PM

November statistics published.

gov.uk/government/collections/migration-transparency-data

It differentiates from when people are just shooting from the hip :)

hippietrail

@MeNoTalk salamat something (-:

MeNoTalk

@hippietrail how is Melaka?

hippietrail

hot and wet and touristy (-:

MeNoTalk

nice

Gayot Fow

lucky guy! hope the weather's nice

MeNoTalk

4:00 PM

@hippietrail where are you heading next and when? after malaysia

hippietrail

i'm going back north to penang to meet some norwegian friends i knew in korea about three years ago. we'll go to langkawi and then up to laos or winter. at least that's the plan (-:

MeNoTalk

in days.. how long?

hippietrail

dunno. a week max. depends when/what i hear from my friends. you coming over?

MeNoTalk

No..

no plan

I was trying to find a seat on a flight to Indonesia using my free tickets.. but I wasn't able to..

so I was thinking of finding a flight to Indonesia using my discounted tickets on other airlines.. and I found one via KL..

for $140 USD

but then I found a direct one with Garuda for $100 usd..

hippietrail

4:29 PM

cheap!

MeNoTalk

as dirt, but with listing.. so it is space available ticket.. but I can get the status before heading to the airport

hippietrail

when are you going?

MeNoTalk

1-4th of DEC..

hippietrail

soon!

just for 3 days then?

MeNoTalk

no.. I am going anytime between 1st and 4th

hippietrail

4:35 PM

ah that was the other interpretation (-:

MeNoTalk

but will be staying for a month to take care of the kids while my wife recovers..

hippietrail

good job

MeNoTalk

I cant wait to get done with my job for good and do nothing but travel..

hippietrail

is that your plan?

MeNoTalk

mainly.. yes..

hippietrail

4:38 PM

are you wealthy now? (-:

MeNoTalk

no I am not..

will never be...

but, pension is what I am after...

early retirement...

so I can travel while I have my teeth... lol

since we have programmers here,, anyone can help me with this:

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Q: Referencing a DLL that uses an older version of EF

In my WCF service project, I am using EF 6.1.1, in the same project I added a reference to a library that uses EF 4.3. Whenever I call any method in the library that needs EF it throws an error: Could not load file or assembly 'EntityFramework, Version=4.3.1.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken...

.net entity-framework dll

hippietrail

hey i still have one more tooth than most people my age (-:

MeNoTalk

I have much less teeth than you..

hippietrail

you're not supposed to eat bacon at all, crispy or not (-:

MeNoTalk

yes.. but I have a worse problem.. forgot the name..

JoErNanO

4:46 PM

Bacon is evil? Is that your conclusion?

MeNoTalk

you know when you are stressed and keep pushing your jaws against each other.. I do that while I am sleeping.. slowly destroying my teeth

Gayot Fow

@MeNoTalk did you try a binding redirect in the app config? it usually helps for a while.

MeNoTalk

binding redirect... more info.. remember I am a cabin crew member...not a programmer ;)

hippietrail

grinding your teeth? the cleaner at the hostel i worked at has that too

JoErNanO

@MeNoTalk Sleep with a mouthguard. Or get a dentist-approved one made-to-measure.

Gayot Fow

4:49 PM

msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/eftw1fys(v=vs.110).aspx

put it in the app config

hippietrail

@JoErNanO: it seems the jews and muslims were right about that all along

JoErNanO

:D

MeNoTalk

@GayotFow that will cause a problem as well... the project actually uses both versions, old and new..

hippietrail

our hostel cleaner could destroy any mouthguard the dentists gave him so he says

MeNoTalk

so, if I redirect, I will have the code that uses the new version to stop working.

Gayot Fow

4:51 PM

sounds like a bodge

MeNoTalk

@hippietrail I do not have it that severe.. but its breaking the molars..

hippietrail

try switching to C dull, it's a much safer language than the sharp one you're struggling with now

MeNoTalk

@GayotFow maybe, I would upgrade EF to a newer version, except that the API itself changed and it will require a lot of refactoring..

@hippietrail C DLL... really...

hippietrail

two friends of mine just cracked molars too. i'm the only one who went straight for the bigshot tooth

MeNoTalk

@hippietrail that front tooth is really a problem... but at least makes you look younger..

hippietrail

4:52 PM

it was a C# joke - you missed it d-;

MeNoTalk

since it is common in toddlers.. just saying

ahaaaaa

c dull :D

hippietrail

toddlers and meth junkies

Gayot Fow

you'll need to investigate the adapter pattern.

MeNoTalk

adapter pattern.. let me check my patterns book..

@GayotFow no actually i do not need that..

this DLL is just a shared business logic..

hippietrail

pull your finger out and do the refactoring!

MeNoTalk

4:55 PM

i am trying to follow SoC

and DRY

so, all shared logic in a common library..

now, i am making a new project, which needs that common logic.. but i am using the newer EF in the new project.. and hence the conflict..

@hippietrail, can hence be replaces with thus in some contexts?

hippietrail

probably but here hence is perfect and thus would sound odd

MeNoTalk

ok thanks

JoErNanO

Should have called it C flat.

@MeNoTalk hence is more therefore than thus imho

MeNoTalk

you mean, thus is less therefore-y?

hippietrail

i was going to say C blunt but dull just sounded more fun

thus is literally "(in) this way"

Gayot Fow

5:11 PM

I can write an EF adapter suitable for n-tier deployment for about GBP 15k - 20k.

JoErNanO

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Q: Fine semantic differences between "thus" and "therefore"

I have seen a few Q&A's with this title but none really reflects my question. I am aware both are adverbs and so forth and how they syntactically can be used equivalently, but what about connotations? Are there places where "therefore" is preferred over thus and vice versa? Are there any fine dif...