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Daniel

4:00 AM

@rosenjcb mazel tov!

msh210

4:42 AM

@IsaacMoses [Just catching up on backread.] featured questions on Meta also go in the sidebar.

grumble grumble judaism.stackexchange.com/q/30547 (revision history, comments)

@Daniel @Anonymous judaism.stackexchange.com/q/27969

@Anonymous Perhaps, but that doesn't mean it's true. And who said life's meant to be easy, anyway?

@ShmuelBrin I at first read that as "Super User". :-)

@rosenjcb B'shaa tova umutzlachas.

msh210

6:16 AM

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Q: Do some parents hide Jewish ancestry from their children? If yes, WHY?

Long story & question, any help/info would be much appreciated My parents told me I'm British, Welsh, French, Acadian French, German and Native American... but my grandfather's (paternal side) 2nd wife stole the family tree when they divorced. I didn't question it at the time, but looking back ...

history

^ off-topic (about Jews not Judaism), right? @rosenjcb @HodofHod @CharlesKoppelman (who are listed as present), @anyone-else

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A: Choose standard off-topic closure reasons

Questions about the Hebrew language or about history or news of the Jewish people, Jewish individuals, or the State of Israel, except as related to Judaism, are off-topic. If this question does relate to Judaism, please edit it to indicate how. Status: chosen.

HodofHod

6:47 AM

@msh210 True. But we have historically allowed some questions about Jews when the secondary subject was Judaism.

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Q: Was it ever the norm for children to get married?

The Gemara describes many Halachos that apply when someone gets married at very young ages, many under 12, and even a few for the age of 3. There are stories of people who did get married at such ages (Rivkah, ATSO1). I've heard that during the times of the "Cantonists" some parents had their chi...

history marriage age

Comes to mind.

It's a question about Jewish society, really.

Double AA

@Hod That is asking about the history of the practice of a halacha. Like if I were to ask if Polish Jews ever kept chadash. This is just about Jews doing non-Jewish or even anti-Jewish things.

HodofHod

@DoubleAA As my grade school rebbe would say: "CONTINUITY!"

Very Jewish, I think

:)

Ah, memories

Isaac Moses

1:43 PM

@msh210 Yes, but blog entries are just a tiny bit more noticeable, I think, since they say "blog" next to them.

@msh210 I've added my vote to close, and I recommend that you go ahead and make it official, especially now that you've got a tribunal of rank-and-file yot s backing you up.

Daniel

@msh210 That's weird

I wonder why he wouldn't accept that revision?

Monica Cellio

2:22 PM

I have also suggested more questions about the daf yomi which many people apart from the powers that be here, learn. Everyone of my posts gets downvoted, most likely by the same person. If I complain I get suspended. Then you complain you have no viewers after suspending your most prolific writers for months on end. Its like someone killing his parents and then complaining about being an orphan. — annex 1 min ago

Wow. Just wow. ^^^

Daniel

@MonicaCellio That user only has 4 questions and 1 answer <s>downvoted</s> with negative scores

Oh I thought <s> and </s> did a strikethrough

how do you do that?

Isaac Moses

@Daniel ---text--- ~~text~~

Daniel

~~strikethrough~~

ooh

@IsaacMoses Thanks

Isaac Moses

@MonicaCellio annex = shulem? (Don't answer that)

FTR, I don't believe that Hirhurim is closing down due to low readership

Daniel

@IsaacMoses I also don't think that M.Y. is anywhere near closing down at all

Isaac Moses

2:30 PM

@Daniel uh, no

I have suggested many things in the past all turned down without even discussion. For a start downvoting without giving a reason. Surely it cant be too hard for you to make the person giving the reason anonymous if he prefers to be. — annex 9 mins ago

Monica Cellio

@Daniel I agree.

Daniel

BTW speaking of sites closing down, is there ever anybody doing the live chat on AskMoses anymore?

They always do the "checking to see who's online" thing, but it always seems to be nobody

They also still have a published schedule of when people will be online which is not followed

Isaac Moses

2:56 PM

@Daniel And "months on end" and "suspended" and "suggested many things in the past"? I suspect that he's referring to a past under a different user account.

Daniel

@IsaacMoses Yeah. A different user account with the same gravatar, though

Which strongly suggests the same email address

Isaac Moses

@Daniel You remember departed users' auto-gravatars?

Daniel

@IsaacMoses Some notable ones

(notable users, not notable gravatars)

msh210

4:15 PM

@HodofHod That's asking whether a practice has been common because it's discussed heavily in the g'mara. This is asking whether a practice has been common because the asker saw it once. Big difference IMO.

@IsaacMoses yots?

Isaac Moses

@msh210 You recently (I thought in here, but I can't find it) described yourself as a "hedyot." If a mod is a head yot, that makes the rest of us regular yots, at best

msh210

@IsaacMoses Ah! Yes, you said "yot" a previous time, but it went over my head then, too.

@IsaacMoses I typed it using @HodofHod wonderful JS, so if you searched for the transliteration, that'd explain why you can't find it. (Now we need the JS for the chat search box.... :-) )

Isaac Moses

@msh210 Ah thanks

Shmuel Brin

5:22 PM

@Daniel seems different web.archive.org/web/20130509162221/http://…

Daniel

@ShmuelBrin Ah, you're right. Maybe my mind just made the connection because of similar behavior

And I thought I remembered the gravatar

Isaac Moses

Eyewitness identification

Eyewitness identification, in criminal law, evidence is received from a witness "who has actually seen an event and can so testify in court". Although it has been observed, by the late U.S. Supreme Court Justice William J. Brennan, Jr., in his dissent to Watkins v. Sowders, that witness testimony is evidence that "juries seem most receptive to, and not inclined to discredit". Justice Brennan also observed that "At least since United States v. Wade, 388 U.S. 218 (1967), the Court has recognized the inherently suspect qualities of eyewitness identification evidence, and described the e...

HodofHod

6:14 PM

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A: integrated hebrew virtual keyboard

It looks like you're trying to get a feature request implemented. You should totally drop that and try jQuery. ;) I've thrown together (in jQuery) a really quick keyboard userscript (installation instructions). It will insert a button into the post editor and into chat, that toggles an on-screen...

> If y'all are amenable, I want to make the keyboard text field agnostic. There would be one toggle button in a fixed location on the screen, (perhaps a bottom corner) that would toggle a sticky keyboard (that means it scrolls with you like the current behavior in chat). This keyboard would be able to type in any text field that you want. Let me know.

Monica Cellio

6:24 PM

@HodofHod would it still be draggable?

HodofHod

@MonicaCellio Yep.

Monica Cellio

@HodofHod sounds great to me then!

HodofHod

Behavior, I would think, would be that the keyboard would be bound to whichever textfield has focus, or last had focus.

Monica Cellio

Oh, and that button will be on-screen even if one doesn't have a huge browser window?

Having to scroll to get the toggle would suck. :-(

HodofHod

@MonicaCellio I think so. I would want to make it in a fixed corner of the screen.

Which; I don't know. I don't know if people will find the button annoying, either (even if it's small)

Monica Cellio

6:28 PM

@HodofHod yeah, makes sense. Presumably if you pick one on the left it'll work for most people regardless. Some SE content is off-screen for me (on the right) by default, and one new mod feature doesn't work at all if my browser window isn't at least 1070px wide. Want to avoid that kind of problem.

Daniel

@HodofHod I say, if people are going to install the script because they want the convenience of a hebrew keyboard, they can deal with a little annoyance

Monica Cellio

(Note: the monitor on which I'm typing this is not 1070px wide.)

HodofHod

Ok, then @MonicaCellio @Daniel, bottom left sound good? In chat, it'll slightly overlap your gravatar.

Daniel

@HodofHod As much as I would hate to lose optimal viewability of my own gravatar, I'd go along with it

HodofHod

:D

Monica Cellio

6:34 PM

@HodofHod oh, I hadn't made the connection to chat (since there's only one context there I thought that button would be unchanged). Um, that might overlap flag alerts. Sigh. UI is hard.

HodofHod

@MonicaCellio That it is. Ok, less intuitive backup: Chat button's location stays the same, but the keyboard will still be able to be used in the search field. On the main site, the button will be fixed in the bottom left.

Monica Cellio

@HodofHod that works. And it nicely puts the chat button with the other chat buttons -- while on main there aren't buttons like that anyway, so users don't have the same kind of expectation.

Islam

7:38 PM

hi

Daniel

@Islam hello

msh210

@HodofHod Yes!

@HodofHod Don't flags show up on the bottom-left corner? (Not remembering now for sure.)

Daniel

@msh210 keep reading.

msh210

:10827386 Hm?

@Daniel Yep.

HodofHod

8:16 PM

@msh210 I thought they were top right of the gravatar

Daniel

@HodofHod I know that's where pings show up

don't know anything about mod flags

HodofHod

@Daniel Oh, you're right. I meant top left.

Anywho! @msh210 @Daniel @MonicaCellio I've committed the new keyboard! Let me know what you think.

Isaac Moses

@HodofHod Nice! I like the א icon. Any reason not to just make it work on all pages now?

HodofHod

8:36 PM

@IsaacMoses Do you want a persistent Aleph icon on your visits to SO?

I thought it might be obtrusive

Isaac Moses

@HodofHod Why not have it on my browser wherever I go, anywhere on the Internet?

HodofHod

@IsaacMoses Personally, I wouldn't mind. I thought people might not want that, but if I'm wrong, I can make it universal. Network-wide, or web-wide.

It may have some unintended small side-effects on other sites. For example, the rlm; settings may malfunction on other sites, depending on how they parse unicode.

Speaking of which, there's a bug in that feature right now...

Monica Cellio

8:55 PM

@HodofHod nice! Thanks for all your work on this. (Are you ready to have it mentioned on BH yet?)

HodofHod

@Monica I want to fix a bug or two that this newest version introduced first. :( I wanted to push this as fast as I could, but I should've been more careful.

Monica Cellio

@HodofHod no problem; they can certainly wait. I just wanted to ask while I was thinking of it.

Daniel

@HodofHod We've all been there :)

HodofHod

10:41 PM

@MonicaCellio Ok, I think I've squashed that bug. Feel free to notify BH if you want to! :D

And Good Shabbos to all!

Monica Cellio

11:14 PM

@HodofHod shabbat shalom! I'll write up something for them sometime after Shabbat.

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