V'dibarta Bam

1:18 AM

@Scimonster Yup :)

Someone has voted to close this question as a request for p'sak. I disagree -- I see no reason to believe that this question is seeking p'sak. — Shokhet 36 secs ago

Shokhet

1:52 AM

Bounty offered.

Accepted the answer, due to Talmudic citation. — A.Concerned.Lurker Nov 3 at 22:37

^^^^ just rubbed me the wrong way.

I do, however, think that it is a good question, and deserves a good answer.

YeZ

4:12 AM

@Shokhet I think he's done that before.

Shokhet

4:22 AM

@YeZ Hava nagila?

@YeZ Question modified. I don't think you need to edit your answer at all, the way it's worded.

msh210

6:58 AM

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Q: Being more stringent than your Rebbe

Is there a problem with acting more stringently in halacha than your Rebbe acts? If so, what if you are not in front of your Rebbe? If so (to #1), is having a longer beard or peyos considered a problem? (Even if that's not a stringency, the reason behind not acting stringently in front of your R...

halacha

^ Tag recommendations, anyone?

We don't have a tag about one's Judaism teacher (k'vod rabo e.g.). The closest we seem to have are adult-learning, chinuch-education, and rabbis.

We could tag it payot-sideburns and beard, but what else? (leniencies seems inapt though pretty close.)

Scimonster

11:55 AM

I released the code for my calculations of the gematriyas (cc @YeZ). judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/40849/…

Isaac Moses

2:19 PM

@msh210 I think a rebbe-talmud-muvhak tag would be a worthy creation, no?

Meta-Man

2:50 PM

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Q: Another "bully overflow"

Yeah I know downvote downvote downvotes. But rep doesn't count here. Far from the Jewish spirit of welcoming in new people, guests, etc. you are bullying people with your downvote tactics. Where is the FAQ? Where does it say all my answer must have a rabbinic source? Who says there are black ...

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Isaac Moses

@Meta-Man Man, people can really take a downvote seriously.

Isaac Moses

3:04 PM

What is your question exactly? — Double AA ♦ 3 mins ago

^^^ Interesting point. This is certainly not the first Meta post whose point is to criticize MY. What is the standard for such posts being acceptable to keep open? Do they have to make a specific request for information/explanation or call for specific change? @DoubleAA

Scimonster

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A: Another "bully overflow"

People's votes are their own. That is the official StackExchange position. Explaining downvotes is encouraged but not required. See also Why do you cast downvotes on answers? It's not true that we're not welcoming. We are in fact much more welcoming than other SE sites - Stack Overflow for examp...

Isaac Moses

... There are three questions in the post, but it's unclear if they're intended to be interrogative or rhetorical.

Double AA

3:20 PM

@IsaacMoses They are rhetorical. Or at least, I don't think he wants a link to the FAQ. Meta is open to more open questions, but I don't even know what this is.

Isaac Moses

@DoubleAA What is stopping you from closing it? (not rhetorical)

Double AA

@IsaacMoses What is stopping you from voting to close it?

Isaac Moses

@DoubleAA Hey, I'm the one asking the questions, buddy.

Double AA

@IsaacMoses :)

My vote is decisive and I'd like to see a few community votes first to back me up so-to-speak

Isaac Moses

@DoubleAA Same as you, I assume, to see what the rest of the community thought first

Double AA

3:24 PM

@IsaacMoses You aren't binding though.

Perhaps this whole thread should be rewritten in faq form? — Double AA ♦ 9 secs ago

Isaac Moses

@DoubleAA Yeah. My hesitance is also because, as usual, enforcing our standards just plays into OP's narrative. So, I think that the standard should be enforced with a bit more caution.

Double AA

@IsaacMoses I'm very skeptical that someone who posts a meta post like that will ever really fully integrate into the community no matter what we say.

@IsaacMoses Speaking of which, should I close this judaism.stackexchange.com/q/48706/759

Isaac Moses

@DoubleAA I feel like it's happened before. No example at my fingertips, though.

Scimonster

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Q: Moderators purposely concealed my question from community discussion and to keep the masses blind

I posted this question and it was swept under the rug with no definitive explanation given. I have had many questions in the post, so I don't see how it can be an invalid question. It is related to Judaism, it's a custom that is practiced every year and for some reason they are ashamed for the co...

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Isaac Moses

@DoubleAA Partial counterexample: meta.judaism.stackexchange.com/questions/2166/…

Double AA

3:37 PM

@IsaacMoses That was not a rage-quit sort of rant

Isaac Moses

@DoubleAA Agreed

Isaac Moses

5:10 PM

in Discussion between Isaac Moses and hazoriz, 1 min ago, by Isaac Moses

@hazoriz I would prefer if you didn't. If you want there to be a Q&A about that point of theory, it'd probably be better to word it with very hypothetical, non-graphic language, to make it clear that it's a theoretical question and less likely to have choice phrases quoted out of context.

^^^ I'd be interested to hear what others think about this (probably best in that room), since I'm of two minds about whether to recommend against posting even the theoretical version

Shokhet

.......Just wondering if "rep doesn't count here," what's the big deal about 4 downvotes between 5 posts? </הערה>

Am I right about this? ....

Hello Ryan, and welcome to Mi Yodeya! You raise a lot of questions in this post; you might want to clarify exactly what your question is -- generally, we like to have one question per post. — Shokhet 10 mins ago

Second comment I know I'm right about:

In point 0 -- one is not allowed to martyr themselves for Shabbos. If someone wants to do that, we force them to break Shabbos to preserve their life (Shmiras Shabbas K'Hilchasa, 32:5) — Shokhet 9 mins ago

I have to run, but will be back later!

YeZ

6:36 PM

where do we say explicitly that this is not a discussion forum? Is it on the FAQ? That seems to be a common point of misunderstanding, particularly in the current iteration of it.

Isaac Moses

@YeZ "We're a little bit different from other sites. Here's how:"

... "This site is all about getting answers. It's not a discussion forum. There's no chit-chat."

@YeZ It's a natural point of misunderstanding because most other places on the Internet that allow people to come off the street and type are discussion forums.

YeZ

@CashCow I think the misunderstanding here is in what the point of this site is. It is not a "discussion forum" as you seem to have understood. It is not a blog. It is for asking questions and receiving answers to those questions, with clearly defined guidelines to keep the site functioning and not becoming a discussion forum. This is clearly stated in our Tour which hopefully every new user reads. — YeZ 31 secs ago

msh210

7:06 PM

@IsaacMoses Yes IMO.

@IsaacMoses On (at least some) other meta SE sites, statements are okay as question posts, to some extent. cc @DoubleAA

Isaac Moses

@msh210 Done.

@msh210 Yes. We have some here that were certainly community-approved. Where is the line?

msh210

@IsaacMoses I don't know, but I think this Q is on the non-closureworthy side of it.

@IsaacMoses Shkoyich.

(Or however I should transliterate that "word".)

Stack Exchange

7:43 PM

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First point of business: we have an iPad app! It’s got a snazzier feed and a fancy live preview in the Compose view. We’ve been getting more posts from mobile than we expected, because computing via iPad is the way of the future (according to Joel), so lots of features in the iOS app are now better optimized for posting as opposed to reading. …

Scimonster

And congrats to me on finally reaching 10k on SO. :D

Shokhet

8:12 PM

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Q: Is Stack Overflow a forum?

I was under the impression that Stack Overflow was a forum, or a forum-like object. And if it is not a forum: Why isn't it? What defines a forum?

discussion faq-proposed forum

@Scimonster Congrats!

@Shokhet Quoted in meta.judaism.stackexchange.com/a/2192/5323

Scimonster

@Scimonster But it's tenuous. One downvote and i lose it.

Shokhet

In a little bit of a joking, Jon Skeet kinda way....human life is so valuable in Jewish law that it even overrides the importance of human life! — Shokhet 1 min ago

^^^ Explanatory note: Sanhedrin 72a: "אם בא להורגך השכם להורגו" "If he's coming to kill you, you kill him first." — Shokhet 31 secs ago

This question has two close votes for being "off-topic, Hebrew." I don't agree -- it asks for the meaning of a specific Jewish in the context of Judaism. — Shokhet 7 secs ago

Scimonster

@Shokhet Fix it, before it's too late. "specific Jewish"

Shokhet

@Scimonster ?

Scimonster

@Shokhet "meaning of a specific Jewish in the context of Judaism"

Shokhet

8:26 PM

@Scimonster got it, ty

Shokhet

8:51 PM

@MarkCantor Your grandfather was a shochet? Nice!! — Shokhet 17 secs ago

Scimonster

9:13 PM

@Shokhet Is there a reason you keep reposting your comments on Bam?

1 min ago, by Scimonster

@Shokhet Is there a reason you keep reposting your comments on Bam?

Shokhet

@Scimonster Not all of them, just the ones that I think require community attention, or that I think fellow Yodeyans would find amusing (mine or others')

Scimonster

@Shokhet I know not all of them, but still, a lot.

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1 min ago, by Scimonster

@Shokhet Is there a reason you keep reposting your comments on Bam?

(seeing if it likes the nesting)

Shokhet

@Scimonster If you think it's too much, I'll try to slow it down.

Scimonster

@Shokhet Whatever you want.

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1 min ago, by Scimonster

@Shokhet Is there a reason you keep reposting your comments on Bam?

Shokhet

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Where you can play with chat features (except flagging) and ch...

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I didn't know that chat rooms oneboxed! That's cute

Scimonster

9:16 PM

Er, yeah. Next time. :)

Shokhet

@Scimonster I'm not saying that it was annoying me; just that since it may annoy others, you might want to try it somewhere else next time. .....I've used it once or twice myself :)

Isaac Moses

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@Scimonster Amateurs

Shokhet

@IsaacMoses You deleted each one as it came, and replaced it with a link? .....trying to figure that out.

Scimonster

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@IsaacMoses I bet i can beat that.

@IsaacMoses I didn't even realize the up-arrow shortcut - i manually clicked edit. WHOA

Isaac Moses

Post message.
Get link to it.
<up-arrow>
Replace contents with link.
<enter>
while (not bored yet)
. <up arrow>
. <enter>

Scimonster

9:24 PM

@IsaacMoses I just replied BEFORE YOUR MESSAGE!

Isaac Moses

Shokhet

9:34 PM

@IsaacMoses Got it. Not quite bored enough to try it myself, but I may eventually.

@Scimonster FWIW, I didn't realize that it existed either. Cool!

Scimonster

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@Shokhet Be bored.

Shokhet

@Scimonster I'm working on an (IMHO) very important Q/A set for MY; to fix a misconception that I didn't even realize existed.

Scimonster

9:59 PM

@Shokhet Yeah, what's that?

Shokhet

@Scimonster You'll see it soon.....

Scimonster

@Shokhet Nope - i'm going to bed, so it'll have to wait till tomorrow.

Shokhet

@Scimonster All right, then. לילה טוב!

Scimonster

@Shokhet TZT.

Shokhet

TZ(Y)T ;-)

Scimonster

10:03 PM

Assuming i can get to sleep over all this גשמי ברכה

Isaac Moses

@Scimonster Oh. Nice! Relevant:

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Q: Where can I find the current water level of the Kineret to see the effect of mentioning Morid Hageshem?

Throughout the winter we pray Mashiv HaRuach UMorid HaGeshem. My understanding is that it is said for Eretz Yisroel dwellers (unlike V'sain Tal Umatar LBracha which is said for your locale). As we pray for it I am interested in knowing if there is an online source to find out what is the current ...

tefilla product-recommendation internet eretz-yisrael water

Shokhet

@IsaacMoses I'm surprised that question wasn't closed; but it's cool!

Scimonster

@IsaacMoses You can find it on the promenade in Tiberias.

;)

Isaac Moses

@Shokhet I had to fight to keep it open. :)

Shokhet

@Scimonster Yeah, I've seen that ;) .....don't have easy access to it at this point in time

@IsaacMoses Oh? .....what argument finally did it?

Isaac Moses

10:10 PM

@Shokhet I'd have to re-read the comment stream to refresh my memory.

Shokhet

When I saw the title, I wanted to close as off topic. But seeing that its connected directly to a prayer said, I think it's fully on topic,. I'm going to change the question title to reflect its ontopicness — avi Jan 12 '12 at 10:22

Shokhet

11:03 PM

@Scimonster Done:

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Q: Can I choose not to violate Shabbos for "pikuach nefesh"?

According to the Gemara (Yoma 85a-b) and Poskim (Shulchan Aruch, Orach Chaim 328, Rambam, Hilchot Shabbos 2 [English Rambam]), one is allowed to violate Shabbos in order to preserve his life. This is learned from the verse (Leviticus 18:5) "וחי בהם," "and one should live in them [the laws of the ...

halacha shabbat health-safety-shmira choleh-sick

Shokhet

11:15 PM

@Daniel "For example, one could choose to martyr themselves rather than to desecrate the Sabbath, but they are not obligated to."

(from the first revision)

@all -- flag as NAA? (valuable info, but really just a comment)

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A: What was the significance of the ram by the Akeida?

Answering Q 3 - See the Kli Yakar's explanation on that verse. He claims that the ram is not one of those created during creation, but a special ram having one horn. Although my Hebrew is good, my eyesight isn't too great to read small and somewhat faded print in there. I couldn't completely fol...

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