7:29 AM
@BruceAlderman - I flagged your accusation of my being dishonest as rude, but if the moderator does not clean it, please remove it yourself. Besides I calrified my meaning and withdrew my comment about Arminias being dishonest.
I had no idea Arminias was s sacred cow, if you accused Calvin of being jerky or a alimeball on some subject, I would not be offended in the slightest.They are just men.
There us no need ti make it personal I was simply looking for the facts about an interest I had. I care nothing about whether some guy named Arminias was cool or not. Its irrelevant to me.
My interest is in Wesley cause he was not insignificant. I wanted to discern the difference between him and Arminias only because he allowed the label to be put on him.
Anyway I did not mean to kick a hornets nest and would appreciate if tou would return some kindness instead of insults, just after I kindly accepted your answer about Wesley. I stull think Arminias is shady in the way he attacks imputation of guilt indirectly without facing it head on and letting us know his belief directly.
Possibly he was afraid of suffering personal harm if admitting it? In any case, it makes a bug difference to how as a sort of extreme Calvinist (on this subject) I percieve somone.
That is why I want to know his view on this precise question. You yourself said some Arminians do not believe in the imputation of guilt? So why defend Arminias on the subject when the facts seem ti say he also is that kind of Arminian?
How about we recognize we had a collision over some confusion and we both delete all our comments under my posted answer, assuming the miderators dont' beat us to it. Deal?