I generally use xelatex for my documents, and the following snippet generally works fine for my math:
\usepackage{fontspec}
\usepackage{unicode-math}
\setmathfont{Asana Math}
But I recently discovered a weird problem with xelatex, with or without the math. I was trying to typeset the expressio...
@egreg can you point a new mactex user in the right direction:
Erm...I am not sure. I found this particular program after having LaTeX in general suggested to me by a professor for writing long reports with lots of equations in it. I was lamenting Word's Equation editor and she recommended learning LaTeX as a general skill (I am on break ATM and finding useful things to do with my time off). Is there a better program than LaTeXit for this purpose? Oh wait! I remember now. I downloaded MacTex and LaTeXit seems to be the editor that came with that.. — Nate4 mins ago
what can make \subsection now show up in article document? No matter what setting I do, such as \setcounter{tocdepth}{3}, or \setcounter{tocdepth}{4} the subsections do not show up in toc. All my subsection have such header:
\section{Integrals}
\subsection{\hspace{5 mm} Integral No. 1}
...
\subsection{\hspace{5 mm} Integral No. 2}
I removed the \hspace{} and that made no difference. I deleted the .aux file and no difference. I need to make a MWE example, as this is so strange
Here is a MWE. Can someone please try it. I do not know why subsection do not show in toc
\documentclass[10pt,notitlepage]{article}
\setcounter{tocdepth}{3}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usepackage{hyperref}
\usepackage{fancyvrb}
\usepackage{longtable}
\usepackage{pdflscape}
\usepackage{graphicx}
\makeatletter
\newcommand{\unicode}[1]{\@nameuse{unicode@#1}}
\newcommand{\unidef}[2]{\@namedef{unicode@#1}{#2}}
\makeatother
\unidef{f817}{x}
\unidef{f818}{y}
\unidef{f4a1}{,}
\ifdefined\HCode
\def\operatorname#1{#1}
\else
%\setcounter{secnumdepth}{0} %do not show subsection in toc
\setcounter{tocdepth}{1} %tell pdflatex to only show section at toc
Never mind. I found the problem. SOrry about that !
*I need someone with a DVD burner* The user sitting next to me could first: Not download a program to burn dvds, second: once this was done, he couldnt't install it because the installer went crazy. **Windows users**
@egreg The question here though is 'I want to shoot myself in the foot: how do I do it?' so ....
@egreg I double-checked: seems it's not in Leslie's book (I thought it was in the appendix). Must be somewhere in the NFSS docs, which aren't quite the same status.
I often use descriptive names for predicates, terms and functions. However, due to the lack of kerning they don't look nice.
For example
$offer = surface \times force(now)$
renders as
Thus to avoid it use \mathit.
$\mathit{offer = surface \times force(now)}$
which renders as
which, ...
My solution is working independent of the used format (LaTeX or plainTeX). I always prefer such independent solutions. I know that \it works in LaTeX too. If it is or isn't deprecated in LaTeX is not so important to me as the mentioned independence. — wipet5 mins ago
@tohecz My son wanted to "type music" last night so I had him tell me letters A-G and I typed them into a simple lilypond file. (Just adding a couple of durations.) Then of course he wanted me to sing it, which was more challenging since it was basically random. Lots of Bs, because he likes B.
Somebody insists for using Helvetica Neue (Light) in a new (math) journal, though I advise against it, because it doesn't provide math nor small caps support.
Anyway, could you advise as TeX math font that looks as good as possible with this font?
BASH_BUILTINS(1) General Commands Manual BASH_BUILTINS(1)
@tohecz I read that but unfortunately it doesn't say what random update in windows 8 or hhc or mathjax or the phase of the moon means that a script that has worked for years now produces help files which trigger a security violation if you try to open them....
Poll on table aesthetics: Given letterpaper, 1-inch margins, 12-pt font, do you prefer (1) portrait-orientation but \footnotesize text, or (2) landscape orientation with normal text size?
@AndrewCashner depends on the document actually, if it's a hardback book rotating it is a pain, if it's loose sheets of paper, why not. Of course you should be using A4 not letterpaper (your country that is, not you personally)
@AndrewCashner ah well, having passed half a century I'm in denial but actually things on paper where there is no zoom function are increasingly hard to read, so making the font smaller isn't an attractive option, but some of my colleagues have hinted that perhaps I should actually wear the reading glasses rather than just owning them...
@David Most of my readers will be in a similar situation to yours :) --also the thesis reproduction service scales everything down to 5x7 inches or some such, not that anyone buys a paper copy of a thesis anymore.
@DavidCarlisle Well, it works fine on any other even page. It's just on the top left where it suddenly develops its own will. And I noticed this too for \marginpars in the book class.
@1010011010 latex can set several pages of material on to the vertical list and then at some point the output routine is invoked to chop up the list add floats etc. \c@page has the value it has while the material is typeset which is only loosely related to the page on which the text will appear
@1010011010 classically you'd use \mark and just look at the value of the mark inside the output routine when you know which page you are on, that's how odd/even page heads are done. or you can use a \label/\pageref system and test the parity of the number you get from \pageref, or you can do a custom \write ( or .... in general it's hard actually which is why \marginpar gets it wrong sometimes
If anyone has used pdflscape to make single PDF pages appear rotated on screen, is the result consistent across viewers (including tablets)? Does it still print correctly?
@AndrewCashner not sure I tried tablets but it works on most pdf viewers and is unlikley to affect printing (it just pokes a value into a /View field to suggest landscape orientation so it's almost certain to be ignoired by any print software)
\usepackage{blindtext} % Allows font customization
\usepackage{fontspec} % Allows font customization
\usepackage{marvosym} % Allows the use of symbols
\usepackage[english]{babel} % Required to compile in Windows
@1010011010 short answer no, longer answer it depends (mostly it depends on how much of latex you are prepared to rewrite, the output routine being the largest part of the format)
@JosephWright no want to do that, but it's been a bad week I think I just fixed my build issues (day job:-) but I'm wondering if I should go home happy or actually fix the build now before the weekend, but not had any coding time for latex this week.
@JosephWright been that way for 20 years? (or maybe 10, I forget:-)
@AndrewCashner the real issue is that utf8 input doesn't work as naturally as one would like if you are using pdftex and 8bit fonts, it's not clear if the world is ready to standardise on xetex or luatex or any other zzztex that isn't pdftex....
@David This was the motivation for my question. It seems unnecessary to have two additional engines whose primary use for many users (I think) is just to make Unicode and font selection easier. If both were incorporated into the central engine the demand for XeLaTeX and LuaLaTeX would nearly disappear, I think.
@DavidCarlisle True on the publishers, but we know the 'sell' is going to be an issue anyway for people with solid TeX workflows.
@DavidCarlisle As I said, no formal decision yet and probably some complex testing/arguing
@AndrewCashner LuaTeX makes non-backward compatible changes with TeX/pdfTeX/XeTeX, so not going to happen (some of them are perfectly sensible changes)
@AndrewCashner life would be simpler if there were not three major engines, and three major operating systems and multiple language hyphenation tables, but if the whole world coded in lua, spoke English and used linux, support woul dbe a lot easier.
@AndrewCashner pdfTeX is not going to go Unicode as the effort all got transferred to LuaTeX. Loading system fonts is actually something of an issue for 'really stable' users, etc.
@AndrewCashner Current team position is 'engine neutral', hence expl3 works with pdfTeX/XeTeX/LuaTeX more-or-less identically
@AndrewCashner Some things though do need Unicode input (at least to be done without going insane)
@AndrewCashner you can't "incorporate" unicode into pdftex you need to write a tex-like engine that supports Unicode (it's a massive change really) and we already have two of those, it's not clear having a third would help, even if there was someone to do it.
@DavidCarlisle Well yes: there's a reason Jonathan Kew ended up with XeTeX. I'm not sure that you could 'incorporate' Unicode into TeX in ways that would be different to either XeTeX or LuaTeX in a substantive sense
@AndrewCashner @DavidCarlisle and I have a lot of experience on this (I guess as I've come to TeX more recently than him I might be a bit more up on the 'engine issues')
@DavidCarlisle I guess the one pain is that XeTeX branched from e-TeX not pdfTeX so misses out (real) direct PDF output and some of the useful 'newer' primitives
@Joseph @David Yes, I know, it's great to hear from the active developers! Here's a naïve suggestion: would it be possible to create a kind of "shell" engine that calls the appropriate engine based on some instruction, say in the documentclass options? \documentclass[utf8]{article}-->XeTeX \document[uselua]{article}--LuaTeX The idea would be that users don't need to know which engine, just what functionality they need.
@Joseph@David If someday I wanted to be able to contribute to the project, what would be your recommended learning course? Should I jump right into expl3 or will it not make sense without learning LaTeX and TeX primitives first?
@AndrewCashner lots of editor/ide can do that already of course choosing which engine to use based on anything from magic comments to matching strings in the preamble to .. It doesn't actually help much as most users don't have a problem, they just use one engine anyway, but having three does stretch development resources for all packages, not clear what you can do about that
@AndrewCashner Problem there is that you still get into the 'engine X can do ...' business where if you want X and Y that might not work out
@AndrewCashner One issue here is that not everything can be the same with all engines: as I've said, LuaTeX deliberately makes some changes to stuff that the other engines keep the same, while loading system fonts is fundamentally different to use 'classical' TeX ones
@AndrewCashner At present a lot of this is for 'designers' and a bit fluid. One thing I can point to is xcoffins. We've given it a 'traditional' LaTeX2e interface and a keyval-only one, and to date people have preferred the 'traditional' one. I'd like to hear more on this: what does and doesn't work for real users.
@AndrewCashner We could do with examples for the idea of a 'LaTeX Data Base'/'LaTeX Style Sheet': how do different design elements relate to each other in real documents, what design elements need to be described, what count as 'required' and 'optional' arguments for these elements, etc.
@DavidCarlisle So LDB/'style sheets'/templates to do next, then?
@Joseph@David I think ConTeXt leads the field in interfaces. Something quasi-Context like \setupsections[\normalsize,\bfseries,\defaultspacing]would be much preferable to using titlesec or even memoir's interface. Is that the sort of thing you are interested in?
@AndrewCashner latex3 had a similar named parameter template system for headings (and tables of contents and ...) back before I joined the project in 1992 or so, the code just needs cleaning up and promoting....
@AndrewCashner but in short "yes" have a look at xtemplate
@Joseph@David Is it fair to say that expl3 is reimplementing TeX in TeX? I'm looking at xcoffins and I can't tell whether this is a new "box model" (if that's the right term) or a new interface to the old box model. Are you actually changing the way the boxes are handled, or just the way they are specified by the user?
@DavidCarlisle Looking at xtemplate -- I like where this could lead!
@AndrewCashner one of those things. l3 is all at the macro layer it doesn't change the underlying engine at all, so you could think of it as just an interface to boxes, but a perhaps easier way to think about it when using it is that a "coffin" is like an extended box with more structure and so you can write your higher level constructs using the extra structured datatype with more alignment points. It doesn't help (except when debugging) to "translate" back to tex primitives at every stage
@AndrewCashner at the time it lead to documents taking hours to run, if they didn't run out of memory, but things are different now:-)
@AndrewCashner in a way, or like C templates or macros to pure C. or any other high level thing implemented in a lower one, most of the time most people don't need to know about the lower level, but someone needs to know.
@AndrewCashner even now it helps that the inner loop is so tight (and that's what killed the NTS project essentially, it was recoded using cleaner java rather than global jumps and global variables) but it was orders of magnitude slower, people accept a bit slower for extra functionality but there are limits. anyway home time as I said:-)
@gablin: Will you please tell, how mypreamble.sty was modified in order to get header in classicthesis of memoir type and also the list of figures, list of tables etc.
I am explicitly using the template uploaded by gablin for my PhD thesis. Any help is appreciated. Thank you,
@JosephWright So would designing specifications for commonly used document types (e.g., US university thesis) and drafting implementations with xtemplate be a useful contribution? (in the far-off future when I have time, of course)
@AndrewCashner At the moment what we need more is abstract 'design element' ideas
@AndrewCashner xtemplate is clever but there are limitations: it was written so it would run on a TeX system in the 1990s. We want to rework that plus ideas from the 'LaTeX Data Base' into something akin to style sheets: describing both elements in isolation and when related to one another.
@AndrewCashner Notice that the template system is designed to pre-compile as much as possible precisely for efficiency reasons. Again, we may re-visit that (cf. ConTeXt)
@AndrewCashner There is a trade-off, but unless you really know what you are doing it's quite easy to write poor TeX loops, etc., and negate the engine efficiencys
@egreg it's bad in principle even if it looks OK:-) I was going to suggest the usual thing of defining variables for the subterms but then realised that's exactly the line above, so just not having the big middle line at all seems simpler:-)
@egreg you'd say anything to justify your ill-gotten 15 points
@egreg 55 rep points today, so it's a high rep day for me. :-)
I just gave the final close vote to the LaTeX vs. Word improvements. I thought of issuing a close vote when it was posted. I think, there is no real answer to it.
@DavidCarlisle I think @tohecz made a valid point there :-)
Still sitting in the university library, but with a nice cold beer. But i think i will waddle home now.
Guys, see you. If not, try to have a few calm days while everybody is forcing christmas magic. Being with the loved ones is more important that a fat bearded guy in a strange red suit.
@PauloCereda We have a long standing tradition in ice-cream in the mountains of Veneto. It's still frequent finding people from the Valle di Zoldo who make and sell ice-cream in Germany. The owner of a shop in Würzburg told us that his grandfather was from Valle di Zoldo; he opened a shop in Warsaw, first, then went to Würzburg in time for the great bombing that destroyed almost the whole city. But he managed to have his shop in the same place.
I generally use xelatex for my documents, and the following snippet generally works fine for my math:
\usepackage{fontspec}
\usepackage{unicode-math}
\setmathfont{Asana Math}
But I recently discovered a weird problem with xelatex, with or without the math. I was trying to typeset the expressio...
I often use descriptive names for predicates, terms and functions. However, due to the lack of kerning they don't look nice.
For example
$offer = surface \times force(now)$
renders as
Thus to avoid it use \mathit.
$\mathit{offer = surface \times force(now)}$
which renders as
which, ...
I am a new user of latex tool. Uptil now i install WinEdt for that. I want to write my own paper in Latex tool. Give me some suggestions regarding.
Somebody insists for using Helvetica Neue (Light) in a new (math) journal, though I advise against it, because it doesn't provide math nor small caps support.
Anyway, could you advise as TeX math font that looks as good as possible with this font?
@gablin: Will you please tell, how mypreamble.sty was modified in order to get header in classicthesis of memoir type and also the list of figures, list of tables etc.
I am explicitly using the template uploaded by gablin for my PhD thesis. Any help is appreciated. Thank you,
Below is document one with its associated .lco file:
.lco
\ProvidesFile{standard.lco}[%
2002/07/09 v0.9a LaTeX2e unsupported letter-class-option]
\usepackage[english]{babel}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\usepackage{fix-cm}
\usepackage{marvosym}
% ==============================...
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