TeX, LaTeX and Friends

Heiko Oberdiek

4:58 AM

@JosephWright Daily spammer: tex.stackexchange.com/users/60941/ling

hftf

5:56 AM

I'm so sad right now. My visit streak ended at 90 days before it got to 100

That's so weird because I visit both tex.sx and mathematica.sx every day.

data.sx tells me my last visit is 2014-08-17 02:30:26 for both, yet my mathematica.sx streak is 91

cgnieder

6:49 AM

@ChristianHupfer Re tex.stackexchange.com/questions/196963/… If it looks like a margin it is a margin – no matter how things are implemented

cgnieder

7:00 AM

@PauloCereda arrived. I'll watch the video tonight :)

@PauloCereda I took a peek, though: your voice sounds quite normal! :) I'm not sure if I don't find the music a bit distracting...

Paulo Cereda

8:11 AM

@cgnieder That's the idea: I don't want people to note my bad English. :P

cgnieder

@PauloCereda I wouldn't: my English probably is worse, anyway :)

Paulo Cereda

@cgnieder Don't worry, mine gets worse during the video. :P

cgnieder

@PauloCereda Oh: spoilers! :)

Paulo Cereda

@cgnieder :)

@hftf Don't give up, you'll reach the goal. :) Mine is visited 1248 days, 1214 consecutive, but I believe no one can top @JosephWright's score. :)

Johannes_B

Am I having a bad day? vvvv

Paulo Cereda

8:22 AM

Got this on Twitter today.

Johannes_B

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Q: Modifying the geometry of verso pages

I am having the following code that I recovered from the question http://tex.stackexchange.com/a/96366/50507 (requirements announced there) : MWE : \documentclass[oneside]{article} \usepackage{caption} \def\a{One two three four \stepcounter{enumi}\roman{enumi} five six. } \def\b{\a\a\par\a\a\a...

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda 1484 days, 1436 consecutive (mobile connection in the early days of the site meant I got logged out a couple of days when on holiday: I have looked in every day)

Paulo Cereda

Apparently I am a first class developer and a developer with a big future. Where's the oh stop it meme? :)

@JosephWright Wow, I knew it! :)

@Johannes_B oopsie. :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda @egreg Has a full house (no missed days)

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright ooh!

tohecz

8:24 AM

damn hosting :(

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda don't believe everything you read on the internet

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Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda 1244 days, 1244 consecutive

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle So I am not special? :(

@JosephWright wow!

@JosephWright egreg and I have a difference of 4 days. :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda There are still about 4k questions he's not answered, though

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright yep, it's his and David's fault, basically. :)

Joseph Wright

8:26 AM

Seriously: I suspect many of the unanswered can be dealt with, one way or another. If people want more-or-less free rep that's the place to look.

tohecz

And you know what, guys? I got 120 days of real life in the last 2 years and 7 months ;)

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright I wrote a quick question crawler; my plan is to try to spot some answer in comment thing.

@tohecz no way!

:)

tohecz

@PauloCereda well, that's <days registered> - <days visited> :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda Ah, good idea

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz you naughty mathematician. <3

tohecz

8:29 AM

@PauloCereda naughty mathematician with a blocked FTP access to his blog :(

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz oh no!

tohecz

I don't know what's up. I can get to another pages hosted by the same host, but not to these

Paulo Cereda

8:46 AM

Time to go to SP! See ya, guys! :)

tohecz

@PauloCereda bye!

Paulo Cereda

9:11 AM

@tohecz: now live on the bus. :)

Paulo Cereda

9:58 AM

On the second bus now. :)

I am playing Pokémon now.

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda You could be working

Paulo Cereda

@David I can't use my laptop now. :)

egreg

10:17 AM

Somebody talking about me? ;-)

Paulo Cereda

woooo

Paulo Cereda

11:34 AM

I am bored.

David Carlisle

2 hours ago, by David Carlisle

@PauloCereda You could be working

Paulo Cereda

@David: LOL

Joseph Wright

1:39 PM

@nicolatalbot Did you see tex.stackexchange.com/questions/197022/…? I don't think mfirstuc is quite the right tool here: is that correct?

percusse

2:05 PM

hackage.haskell.org/package/acme-lookofdisapproval-0.1/docs/…

ಠ_ಠ :: String -> a

Stop and display an error message. Exactly as error does.

muhaha

Nicola Talbot

2:29 PM

@JosephWright Yes, I've added an answer. It can work, but the order of expansion is important.

Joseph Wright

@NicolaTalbot Ah, right

@NicolaTalbot Should I remove my one?

Paul Gessler

Hi all! :-) Thoughts on this one:

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Q: Making \marginpar work with tex4ht

I tried using \marginpar using tex4ht and pdflatex. Here is the PDF output: Here is the HTML output: Is it possible to configure tex4ht to produce HTML output with good looking marginal notes?

marginpar tex4ht

OP has moved on but I think it might still be useful to some?

Joseph Wright

@PaulGessler What sort of thoughts are you after?

Nicola Talbot

@JosephWright I think your answer is also useful, so I think you should leave it. The \makefirstuc thing works because it effectively does \MakeTextLowercase{\MakeUppercase{F}irst Letter Should Be Uppercase, All Others Lowercase.} and magically \MakeTextLowercase doesn't counteract \MakeUppercase.

Joseph Wright

@NicolaTalbot Case changing using \lowercase/\uppercase is fun, isn't it :-)

@NicolaTalbot There's a good reason we're working on a proper expandable approach for expl3!

Nicola Talbot

2:34 PM

@JosephWright lol :-)

Paul Gessler

@JosephWright should it be left open? Is it even possible (it is maybe, with div tags but I've no experience with tex4ht)?

Nicola Talbot

@JosephWright It would be very useful to have fully expandable case changing!

Joseph Wright

@PaulGessler I've felt it was 'unclear' every time I look at it, but perhaps that's me (what exactly is a marginpar in an HTML context)

@NicolaTalbot We've had it for a while for ASCII: the new code can do UTF-8 provided you are using XeTeX/LuaTeX. Some questions remain: I'm still not sure what the 'correct' way to handle brace groups is.

Nicola Talbot

@JosephWright One day I'll have time to look at LaTeX3 (and LuaTeX). I plugged (La)TeX at a literary event last Sunday :-)

Joseph Wright

@NicolaTalbot Cool

@NicolaTalbot LaTeX3 \neq LuaTeX :-)

Nicola Talbot

2:43 PM

@JosephWright :-) (I think my first real introduction to LuaTeX was at the UK-TUG meeting.)

Joseph Wright

@NicolaTalbot Cool

@NicolaTalbot We are getting something right, then

Nicola Talbot

@JosephWright :-)

@JosephWright I just hope I can finally finish my LaTeX vol3 book before LaTeX2e is replaced by LaTeX3 ;-)

Joseph Wright

@NicolaTalbot I think that should be fine

@NicolaTalbot For low-level programming I'm looking forward to @egreg's book on expl3

@egreg How is the book going?

Nicola Talbot

@JosephWright If it's ready before mine, it would be useful to cite it (when I briefly mention LaTeX3).

Joseph Wright

@NicolaTalbot I've not seen it, only hear rumours

David Carlisle

3:04 PM

@NicolaTalbot It'll just tell you that you don't need % at end of lines, but in a very discursive, book length format.

Nicola Talbot

@DavidCarlisle :-)

percusse

@DavidCarlisle hehehe together with \begingroup\edef\temp{\endgroup... maybe?

Joseph Wright

@percusse Traditionally \x :-)

percusse

@JosephWright My apologies, still too young to rock :P

cyanide-based food

3:32 PM

Are the parallel and perpendicular components of the projection of a vector v onto u below used notations that can be understood (internationally)?

David Carlisle

@percusse not in expl3 :-)

tohecz

@Joseph Are you around?

Joseph Wright

@tohecz Yes

@DavidCarlisle \use:x

michal.h21

@PaulGessler it is quite easy to solve with a bit of css

tohecz

Can you understand what happened here? tex.stackexchange.com/posts/196724/revisions I rolled back to the 1st version because the 2nd one seems to be crap. But I'm not sure whether it was correct

Joseph Wright

3:36 PM

@tohecz Some kind of mess-up using the edit system: looks like you took the right action

tohecz

@JosephWright ok, but now, if I'm correct, there're some delete votes on the answer. Or these get removed by the edit?

cyanide-based food

PNG images displayed incorrectly in this chat room.

David Carlisle

@cyanide-basedfood that's odd, they work OK normally (if you follow the link on yours it looks a lot better:-)

cyanide-based food

@DavidCarlisle Yes. Visting the link works.

I has happened since several days ago.

percusse

@cyanide-basedfood It's because of your notation. It knows it's not a good idea

Joseph Wright

3:40 PM

@tohecz Yes, there are delete votes

cyanide-based food

@percusse :-)

tohecz

@JosephWright you can't remove them, right?

cyanide-based food

It is a bug.

David Carlisle

tohecz

@cyanide-basedfood yes, the problem is that you use transparency I think. Try: convert img.png -flatten +matte img2.png

David Carlisle

3:42 PM

@cyanide-basedfood saved it in a different format (losing transparancy) then back to png

@tohecz or assume someone will do it for you:-)

Joseph Wright

@tohecz Not without deleting and then undeleting

tohecz

@JosephWright ah ok. Let's hope that people aren't blind :)

cyanide-based food

4:14 PM

@DavidCarlisle it did not happen . there might be a modification.

David Carlisle

4:32 PM

@cyanide-basedfood ??

cyanide-based food

@DavidCarlisle I think this is a new behaviour, my previous experience in this chat room, there was no such a problem.

David Carlisle

@cyanide-basedfood oh probably, they are always tinkering with something:-)

cyanide-based food

Just a test.

Alpha channel is not supported now. A sad news.

Joseph Wright

@egreg Re the \lowercase business: of course, it is a 'reverse functional' but it's not what people probably expect

egreg

4:55 PM

@JosephWright Indeed. Knuth should have chosen to place arguments before the macro name, so the functional character would be more evident. ;-)

Joseph Wright

@egreg Does of course raise in my mind the question of how the expl3 code should treat nesting

@egreg Any news on the expl3 book?

cyanide-based food

5:16 PM

This pstricks site cannot be accessed. tug.org/PSTricks/main.cgi

Joseph Wright

@cyanide-basedfood Did you send a mail?

percusse

@cyanide-basedfood Looks like on purpose, google pstricks site:www.tug.org and read the robots.txt

cyanide-based food

@JosephWright Not yet. My emails are usually ignored in the PSTricks mailing list. :-)

@percusse I let Herbert know it.

michal.h21

5:41 PM

@PaulGessler I posted my solution. Little bit longer than I thought:

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A: Making \marginpar work with tex4ht

This is really just a css issue. Stylesheets produced by tex4ht are pretty plain and basic, which is a good thing, because you can easily modify the appearance of things to your needs. By default, content generated by tex4ht is sized to fill whole page width. This is on the one hand wrong from ...