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@nima and @DavidCarlisle -- arbortext was originally founded to produce a commercialized implementation of tex to be used for technical documentation (if i remember correctly). the product developed was called "the publisher" and it added features that were not native to tex, but the math implementation certainly was tex. has been through a lot of changes, and i'm not sure what it's like now. but do add it as an answer to the cited question.

Paulo Cereda

arbortex sounds like something related to planting trees. :)

yo'

@PauloCereda it's a matter of habits. I mean, as soon as you can count 8=3+3+2, you can count I think moreorless anything :)

Paulo Cereda

12:50 PM

@yo' even prime signatures? :)

yo'

@PauloCereda well, 7=3+2+2 in most cases when it's used

Paulo Cereda

@yo' I sense some Goldbach conjecture going on. :)

yo'

@PauloCereda I see I've got 7 minutes to move myself downtown. Ouch.

see you later!

Paulo Cereda

@yo' ooh dash, Tom, dash! :)

@yo': have a great day!

yo'

@PauloCereda you too!

Johannes_B

12:55 PM

@egreg @DavidCarlisle A nice centerline :-)

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Q: Unwanted Empty Pages, using style file given by university

My university has a titlepage template that they want us to use for the masters thesis. However, it adds an additional empty page before and after the titlepage (gives two afterwards, so one unwanted). I found out that short titles dont have the problem. Any ideas how to fix it? It doesn't help...

titles

egreg

1:08 PM

@Johannes_B I agree with the "interesting" judgment

barbara beeton

@egreg -- are you here? if you agree with me that this shouldn't be edited, please reject it; i'm a bit embarrassed to do it myself: tex.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/101571

David Carlisle

1:53 PM

@barbarabeeton yes that's why I asked which program. APP (arbortext print publisher) has a different history altogether it is what was known as 3b2 and only comes under the "arbortext" banner as both companies were bought by PTC

@egreg I think with all the excitement about the Olympics you failed to report the last test result.

@Johannes_B as predicted:-) :

yesterday, by David Carlisle

@egreg yes I meant to use -l on grep but anyway between those and 10001 thesis documents using it in title pages, I don't think removing it from 2e is an option:-)

Paulo Cereda

2:21 PM

ooh a dog

Anti Earth

Hi everyone, a drive-by question; what's the deal with lstlisting's autogobble not working for tab characters? Surely that's the most frequent use case?

egreg

@barbarabeeton Somebody else did it😀

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Are you texting with your iPhone? :)

egreg

@PauloCereda Yes, at the beach

Paulo Cereda

@egreg oooooh

egreg

2:24 PM

@PauloCereda With Portofino in front of me

Paulo Cereda

I don't like beaches. :)

@egreg how nice!

Ulrike Fischer

@AntiEarth gobble works fine for me. Make a complete example.

Anti Earth

@UlrikeFischer oh autogobble? Sure, just a sec

@UlrikeFischer hmm, the issue stems from my changing of the tab characters in my original code to spaces (since I was unhappy with the extent of indentation that lstlisting has for tabs)

@UlrikeFischer Here's the code
https://anotepad.com/notes/e8h4ya

The inclusion of literate={\ }{{\ }}4 when setting the listing parameters (which replaces tabs with 4 characters) seems to mess with autogobble

oh, the interference is mentioned in this answer:
http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/151490/change-indentation-depth-when-using-spaces-in-lstlisting

Not sure why I wasn't originally just configuring tabsize. Welp, thanks for the rubber ducking! (sorry for the waste of time)

Gigili

2:43 PM

Hi

Anti Earth

Hey

Gigili

I have some footnotes in my code but TexWorks is getting errors that footnotes are undefined, Could you guess what I am missing or the MWE is needed?

Anti Earth

Eep I have no idea sorry! Good luck!

barbara beeton

@Gigili -- this needs a mwe -- different document classes handle footnotes in different environments in different ways. so please post as a question on the main site. and it doesn't have anything to do with texworks -- that's just your front end/editor.

Gigili

@AntiEarth Thanks!

@barbarabeeton OK, will do, thanks

nima

3:30 PM

Hello

@barbarabeeton ok, I'll do it as soon as possible.

I have a simple problem I'll just mention it so that somebody would tell if I ask it in QA. is that ok?

Paulo Cereda

@nima Hi!

Fire at will! :)

Not at @WillRobertson. :)

nima

@PauloCereda Hi

I've created another sectioning level with titlesec. It is between part and chapter:subpart. Now the problem is in the toc one subpart falls at the end of the page with no chapter below it but at the beginning of next page. Is it possible to prevent this widow?

Gigili

3:48 PM

Now I am not sure the problem is the footnotes, since there are warnings about them being undefined but I believe there must be errors preventing TeXworks from producing the output pdf

After trying to provide a proper MWE to post on main, I guess it is not a good question to ask there

Would appreciate it if someone here could help me out

         \documentclass[a4paper,12pt]{report}
          \usepackage{graphicx}
            \usepackage{booktabs}
            \usepackage{caption}
            \usepackage{subcaption}
            \usepackage{mathtools}
           \usepackage{url}
           \usepackage{footnote}
           \usepackage{setspace}
           \usepackage{enumitem} \setlist[itemize,1]{label={\fontfamily{cmr}\fontencoding{T1}\selectfont\textbullet}}


       \DeclareMathOperator*{\argmin}{argmin}

    \usepackage{graphicx,xcolor}

Alan Munn

4:18 PM

@PauloCereda How did you get Brazilian citizenship?

Paulo Cereda

4:30 PM

@AlanMunn I have no idea! :)

Diaa Abidou

Hello,

Paulo Cereda

@DiaaAbidou Quack!

Diaa Abidou

Is there anyone able to run latex on Windows10 bash shell

Johannes_B

@Gigili Is the arabic/persian (i have no idea what it is) needed for the example? Can it be reproduced without?

@DiaaAbidou Hi.

Diaa Abidou

@PauloCereda hello ;)

Johannes_B

4:31 PM

@DiaaAbidou Pretty sure there are people running on Win10. Wait, bash?

Diaa Abidou

@Johannes_B yes bash shell, the new feature introduced in Windows 10

howtogeek.com/249966/…

Johannes_B

@DiaaAbidou Nice to hear they start to use good software now. But i probably cannot help you with your issue.What is the issue?

Diaa Abidou

No issue, just wonder if it is available to run some basic latex editors in that shell

Paulo Cereda

@DiaaAbidou Any ideas on how Windows and this bash thingy share environments?

Joseph Wright

@DiaaAbidou Well unless you are using a terminal editor (e.g. the might Pico) this doesn't really make sense

Paulo Cereda

4:35 PM

@JosephWright boo

Pico. :)

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda What else ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle: ^^

Joseph Wright

@PauloCereda I guess for Windows edlin :-)

Paulo Cereda

Jan 18 at 11:08, by David Carlisle

@PauloCereda go away

@JosephWright ooh :)

Diaa Abidou

@PauloCereda I have no idea sorry :/

Johannes_B

4:37 PM

@JosephWright edlin? Time to run :-)

Paulo Cereda

@DiaaAbidou No worries. :) I might take a look at some point, mostly because of my new user manual and Windows 10.

Joseph Wright

@Johannes_B It was a scary place, true

Johannes_B

@JosephWright I just got confused by the username: latex-community.org/forum/…

Paulo Cereda

It will be fun: Windows 10 running as VM in a Mac environment, running a Linux subsystem.

Diaa Abidou

In this shell I updated Linux database and installed Gummi the latex editor, but I faced a problem of running GUI applications. So, I wondered if someone made it and compiled some code.

Johannes_B

4:41 PM

@DiaaAbidou I don't understand. Does it make sense to start a GUI from a bash? in the bash you just do pdflatex nameOfTexFile and it goes off.

Joseph Wright

@DiaaAbidou bash \neq a full X-windows system

Diaa Abidou

@Johannes_B I mean to start an application has a GUI , but I didn't try to run off latex from the command. I can try now :)

@JosephWright I am so sorry, but is this a command I write or what?

Johannes_B

Stopped reading in the middle. There is no real use to switch classes easily. Decide now and do it properly instead of wasting time (procrastinate) in doing conditionals. — Johannes_B 4 mins ago

Joseph Wright

@DiaaAbidou No, I mean that bash is a command line interpreter but not the same as a full X-Windows (GUI) system, so it's not surprising that you can't run Gummi or whatever. But then this would be an odd thing to aim to do anyway.

Johannes_B

I should have read to the end :-)

Joseph Wright

4:48 PM

@Johannes_B Erm, you know beamer loads hyperref for good reason?

Johannes_B

@JosephWright @DiaaAbidou Agreed. You don't gain anything in what you try to do (imho).

@JosephWright I don't like beamer anymore :-)

@JosephWright I need to have a look. It is a while back since i touched beamer.

David Carlisle

@JosephWright Is it really not possible to run X? (I should upgrade to win10 and try, I suppose..)

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle I don't think it is, unless the X subsystem is just an API for Windows calls. :)

Johannes_B

@JosephWright What is the reason? I can't really see one right now.

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda hmm what's the use of windows if you can't use it as an X terminal?

Diaa Abidou

4:53 PM

@JosephWright You are right on low level scale, but for me as an end user, it would be great to get some working latex editors of different features running in Windows environment without the need of VM

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Air-conditioners only work if you don't open windows. :)

David Carlisle

@DiaaAbidou but which editors do you want that are not available as native windows?

Diaa Abidou

@DavidCarlisle for example, Gummi with its flawless live preview is something I miss when working on Windows. I am just a user not a developer, but this feature makes me happy :)

David Carlisle

@PauloCereda ooh of course you can use the subsytem binaries talking to a native windows x server pcworld.com/article/3055403/windows/…

@DiaaAbidou never tried gummi (mainly because it isn't emacs:-)

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle ooh cool, you will be able to open a vim session! (see the article screenshot)

David Carlisle

4:59 PM

@PauloCereda as is well known opening vim is a lot easier than closing it

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle :)

@DavidCarlisle: @Joseph wants Pico.

Johannes_B

@egreg That Walter Wombat answer with the title rules is driving me crazy. I wonder if i should delete it.

Johannes_B

5:14 PM

@DavidCarlisle Well, this is true. :-)

Johannes_B

5:27 PM

@JosephWright Would you mind having a look at the two posts by the user? I am more than confused right now. What is he trying to do? latex-community.org/forum/…

wilx

5:40 PM

How do I define certain macros only inside an environment?

I am basically trying to code up something for this: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/323562/…

cfr

@All I believe that Loop Space is the author of knots. Does anybody know if Loop Space frequents chat at all? See my comments on

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Q: Unexpected behavior of the "knots" tikz library when a crossing is close to another (thick) line: What's going on?

I recently tried to draw some Olympic rings using the tikz library "knots", and ran into some unexpected behavior. As can be seen in the linked answer, the lower crossing of the black and green rings looks a bit strange. Removing the yellow ring corrects this behavior, so it must be due to this r...

tikz-pgf tikz-knots

It isn't really the question itself. It is that the keys don't seem to behave in the way that I think the documentation says they should. I'm not sure if I'm horribly misunderstanding the manual, doing something else obnoxious or if there is really something awry. The code mixes expl3 and pgf keys, which doesn't help. At least, it confuses me. No doubt the fully bilingual will have no trouble. (Does Google translate do expl3 to pgfkeys or vice -versa?)

jaySon

Hi. I've got a short question regarding BibTex: What is the difference between the attributes "volume" and "number" when talking books?

Johannes_B

6:31 PM

@jaySon From btxdoc: The BOOK entrytype allows either volume or number (but not both).

wilx

6:45 PM

Is it possible to \newcommand{\foo}[3]{#1} and just use the one parameter?

Johannes_B

@wilx Yes.

barbara beeton

@wilx -- you can ignore any argument that's specified, but you have to input something for all of them, or you won't get the output you expect. a good example is \newcommand{\gobble}[1]{} which is intended to "disappear" whatever is input in the braces with \gobble{xxyyzz}.

wilx

OK.

Paulo Cereda

7:19 PM

@cfr Once in a while, Andrew comes to Earth and checks the site and chatroom. :)

wilx

9:00 PM

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A: Quoting tweets inside a LaTeX document?

So I bit the bait and done something: tweet2latex. This is a utility based on twarc that retrieves tweets and necessary images and generates LaTeX fragment to standard output, like this: \begin{tweet}\tweetUserImage{https://pbs.twimg.com/profile\_images/683232086958993408/rnyugqzL\_normal.jpg}{r...

This is what you have helped achieve. :)

cfr

@PauloCereda ;)

Paulo Cereda

Yay, our first gold medal!

Pedro Tamaroff

10:00 PM

Does anyone know how to adjust the size of the cells in a Young tableaux using the ytableau environment?

Alan Munn

@PedroTamaroff the boxsize key?

Pedro Tamaroff

I need to adjust boxsize, yes.

Do you know how to do that?

Alan Munn

@PedroTamaroff Just add boxsize=2em or some other value. The default is 1.5em. There are examples in the documentation.

Pedro Tamaroff

I add that as follows?
`\begin{ytableau}[boxsize = 2em]`

Hm, that did not work.

I actually need wider columns, that's all.

Alan Munn

@PedroTamaroff No, the options in this case come after the environment.

Pedro Tamaroff

10:05 PM

Not wider rows.

Alan Munn

@PedroTamaroff I think the intended formatting is square, so there's no user command for changing only one value.

Pedro Tamaroff

@AlanMunn Ah. At any rate, I don't understand where [boxsize = 2 em] is supposed to go.

\begin{ytableau}
a & b\\
c & d
\end{ytableau}

Where does [boxsize = 2 em] go there?

Could you clarify?

Alan Munn

@PedroTamaroff You can set it as a package option, or use \ytableausetup{boxsize=2em} in the preamble (or before any particular ytableau I assume.)

Pedro Tamaroff

Ah, OK.

Great.

Thanks.

Do you know what other package I could use to produce tableaus with varying column and row height?

Alan Munn

@PedroTamaroff Specifically for Young tableaux? No.

Pedro Tamaroff

10:18 PM

OK. The other option I have is to have smaller fonts inside the cells, but I cannot use \small in math mode.

Alan Munn

@PedroTamaroff TikZ provides lots of ways to do this though, using its matrix of nodes function.

Pedro Tamaroff

\scriptstyle worked =)

Alan Munn

@PedroTamaroff There's an option to set the text as text mode as well. Just add textmode to the \ytableausetup command.

Pedro Tamaroff

@AlanMunn I'll try that.

Alan Munn

@egreg Meanwhile in other fencing news, the US has been completely shut out of the medals in women's sabre.

egreg

10:31 PM

@AlanMunn And Canada just beat UK in women's rugby for the third place.

And Australia beat New Zealand

Alan Munn

@egreg Good for them!

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