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12:10 AM
Back home!
 
12:34 AM
@PauloCereda Apparently so is everyone else. :)
 
@AlanMunn Indeed. :)
@Alan: happy July 4th!
 
1:03 AM
@PauloCereda Thanks. (But Canada Day was July 1. Everyone here was too busy watching soccer, except @barbarabeeton.) :)
 
@AlanMunn oh sorry!
 
@PauloCereda :)
 
@AlanMunn ^^ that was quite Canadian of me. :)
 
@PauloCereda Yes indeed. <3
 
@AlanMunn <3
 
 
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yo'
9:14 AM
 
9:30 AM
Quack! :)
 
Good maen
 
yo'
@PauloCereda boo
 
@yo' oh :(
 
yo'
Hey, tell me, can you install LaTeX in home folder (without root rights)?
 
I think so.
 
yo'
9:49 AM
@PauloCereda so do I.
 
10:04 AM
@yo' On windows I have no problems to install (every) tex systems without admin rights.
 
yo'
@UlrikeFischer this is on linux, but it should really be the same.
 
@UlrikeFischer I think @egreg has problems with Windows machine. :)
 
@PauloCereda Yes, every time I try to run some pesky .exe file it doesn't work. I'm always asking why. ;-)
 
yo'
@PauloCereda on the other hand, as far as I know, he has never had any problem installing TL on any of his windows machines...
 
10:15 AM
@yo' ooh :)
@egreg <3
 
10:54 AM
I am reformatting all my external HDD's to ext4. :)
 
yo'
11:06 AM
@PauloCereda goodness
 
@yo' :)
 
@PauloCereda Eh, it's Tuesday already ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer s/Mondays/Tuesdays/g :)
Everything can be fixed with duct tape regex. :)
 
Updated my TomTom with a beautiful Darth Vader Voice ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer What's a TomTom?
It's @yo' twice? :)
 
11:15 AM
@PauloCereda No, nobody could stand that :-P (@yo' <3)
 
ooh double Hejda. <3
 
Fixed Albert Einstein :D
 
@ChristianHupfer No tongue, so it's fake. :)
I want to register a complaint about this Albert Einstein thingy I bought half an hour ago in this very boutique. :)
 
yo'
@PauloCereda Car GPS I suppose
 
@yo' oooh
 
yo'
11:19 AM
@ChristianHupfer tru dat
 
@yo' Righto!
@PauloCereda :D :D
@PauloCereda Made in Brazil .... :-P
 
yo'
@ChristianHupfer mine got its vocal chords disabled. I wouldn't be able to stand that.
 
@yo' :D Yes, but from time to time it's quite funny to hear Darth Vader: 'Turn left -- don't disappoint me again!' :D :D
 
yo'
@ChristianHupfer that's exactly the trigger for throwing the device through the front window :D
 
@yo' Another favourite of me: "Use the roundabout -- only the circle is the way to the power of the Sith` :D
 
11:28 AM
Ducks don't need GPS, we are very good at finding routes. :)
 
yo'
@ChristianHupfer exactly instructions like "use the roundabout" are what makes the speech shitty: I see the roundabout, you don't have to tell me. Better tell me which exit it is. But even for that, a quick glance at the screen shows which exit it is.
 
@yo' Are, you're no fun :-P
 
yo'
@ChristianHupfer driving? No, it's the only action when I can't prevent myself from swearing.
 
I will write an algorithm for a nice GPS
Enter left... I mean, right, right, RIGHT!
Enter right... in the entry you missed 100 meter behind...
 
@PauloCereda That's the way how arara is written? ;-) Sounds rather like a text adventure :D
 
yo'
11:34 AM
@PauloCereda well, when you miss a turn, some devices tell you instantly: "Turn around as soon as possible" -- even on a highway.
 
@ChristianHupfer That's it, you are out of the team. :)
@yo' Oh my!
I will include swearing too, it might be fun. :)
 
@PauloCereda Ooooooooooooooooooooh noooooo -- wait -- I was never in! Yay!!!!!!
 
yo'
@PauloCereda Call it: quality coding
 
@ChristianHupfer You were. :D
@yo' :)
 
@PauloCereda I was? I am confused. I feel like @Johannes_B right now .... Confuse a Black Forester Ltd.!
 
yo'
11:35 AM
actually I like what Google Maps do: they tell you you're wrong and let you solve it yourself, expecting you find a way to the original route. I only miss a "offer an alternative" button.
 
I have to change the toner in my printer -- damn
 
Aug 23 '12 at 14:09, by David Carlisle
@AndrewStacey nah nah na nah nah: my pool is bigger than your pool
 
yo'
@ChristianHupfer did so 3 weeks ago, after some years. Now I got the extra large toner, I expect it to last like 10 years :D
 
@yo' Well, I am printing a lot of stuff for school, the cartridge has to be changed once a year
 
yo'
i see
 
12:28 PM
@michal.h21 are you around? I have HUGE problem with tex4ht. I get those math equations that do not display in the web page. Some of them, and I have no idea what is wrong with the svg. When I open the svg (for the math), I see somecode, but when I open it in the browser it is blank. I have been at this for hrs, and I have no idea what tex4ht do not display some math and it does for others.
@michal.h21 for example, here is the HTML for one equation <p class="indent" > Now equation (C3.3) was used since <img
src="in13x.svg" alt="x " class="math";align="absmiddle"> and when I open in13x.svg in browser on its own, nothing shows. Blank screen.
@michal.h21 and when I open in13x.svg in text editor, this is what I get
<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?>
<!-- This file was generated by dvisvgm 1.15.1 -->
<svg height='5.38133pt' version='1.1' viewBox='36.7388 405.676 7.14329 5.38133' width='7.14329pt' xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2000/svg' xmlns:xlink='http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink'>
<defs>
<path d='M3.64364 -3.29454C3.70909 -3.57818 3.96 -4.58182 4.72364 -4.58182C4.77818 -4.58182 5.04 -4.58182 5.26909 -4.44C4.96363
-4.38545 4.74545 -4.11273 4.74545 -3.85091C4.74545 -3.67636 4.86545 -3.46909 5.16 -3.46909C5.4 -3.46909 5.74909
@michal.h21 guess what. I cleared the browser cache again, and now those math equation show up! I do not understand what is going on. May be browser was caching old image in there before. It seems to have this issue with svg. Never had this problem what I used png for math. But now I see the math again.
 
@yo' -- happy holiday. i think the rest of us should honor it -- after all, the saints it's named after are the reason that people in many slavic-speaking countries can be literate.
 
yo'
12:57 PM
@barbarabeeton thanks!
 
@Nasser I think you had exactly the same problem last week, don't you? It is really hard to say what is the cause :(
 
1:26 PM
@michal.h21 No, that was different. That I think was due to use different latex.4ht and math do not show anywhere. THis problem now, I've seen before many times before. WHat happens is that some equations show up on the page and some do not. When I clear the cache, it seems to solve it. I think browsers cache these small svg images and when I rebuild, it does not reload the new images, or such.
@michal.h21 reloading the page do not help. Have to either clear the cache, or sometimes I have to rebuild the whole tree and clear the cache for the missing math to show up again. It seems the svg files are ok, but browser is caching something else. I do not know.
 
yo'
2:07 PM
@barbarabeeton btw, it's interesting to see how Cyril's name is still used for an alphabet, but it's not the alphabet he invented for the Old Slavic language.
 
3:03 PM
@yo' So you have two holidays in a row?
 
I'm tempted to just answer 42 but someone would be bound to downvote. — David Carlisle 1 min ago
@DavidCarlisle: We can arrange this ;-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Go on, I'll be delighted!
 
@egreg or I'd get one of these banners telling me off from our mods:(
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yo'
@egreg indeed. We know how to do it: two holidays in a row, during the summer school break :-)
 
@yo' :) Surely Jan Hus is a man to be remembered
 
3:15 PM
@DavidCarlisle I can understand why people downvoted it. :)
 
@PauloCereda because they have no taste?
 
@DavidCarlisle Probably. :)
 
yo'
@egreg indeed. And also, Hieronymus Praegensis
 
@DavidCarlisle Possibly the most downvoted answer in the site
 
yo'
@egreg that is not spam (or wait, is it?)
 
3:17 PM
@PauloCereda probably Unicode hardliners objecting to my use of zero width space.
 
@DavidCarlisle Ah good point. :)
 
3:39 PM
How is everyone?
 
@JosephWright Quack!
@JosephWright In a hurry, but fine. :) Converting all my external HDD filesystems to EXT4.
 
@PauloCereda what about vfat16? ;-)
 
@ChristianHupfer boo :)
 
3:58 PM
@PauloCereda Is your thesis in a safe place? The small fragment you've written, I mean.
 
@egreg Yes, it is. :)
 
@egreg \documentclass{article} will be restorable, I think, if that 'fragment' should be lost ;-) @PauloCereda :-P
 
@ChristianHupfer /sobs
 
@PauloCereda <3 /cheer up
 
@ChristianHupfer he started so long ago, it's \documentstyle{article}
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4:15 PM
@DavidCarlisle Hm, TeX82 etc perhaps? \hsize=.... \font.....$$ ...$$ \bye ;-) (Of course, that would still do nowadays)
 
@ChristianHupfer No, @PauloCereda never got as far as \bye
 
You are all mean to me!
 
@DavidCarlisle Well, I assume @PauloCereda he does but there's not much before \bye ;-)
@PauloCereda Sorry, (but we like it ;-)) <3
 
Cooking time
 
4:19 PM
@ChristianHupfer duck?
 
@DavidCarlisle Oh no!
Where's @cfr? I want to report cruelty to ducks. :)
 
@DavidCarlisle I am mean but not that mean ;-) No, it's not duck
 
 
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5:21 PM
@cfr: help, help, help!
 
cfr
@whom it may concern No cruelty to ducks, please. Duck's are special. No duck has yet bitten me!
 
@cfr yay! <3
 
 
2 hours later…
7:02 PM
@JosephWright @StefanKottwitz Could you block this user somehow? tex.stackexchange.com/users/109499/hamid
He's posting the same non-answer as a very low quality question over and over again
 
@ChristianHupfer He gave me the 1000th low quality queue review :-o
@ChristianHupfer he's blocked for answering for now
 
@StefanKottwitz Steward badge? ;-)
@StefanKottwitz Thanks -- he might return with another name or another IP address of course
 
@ChristianHupfer Yes, that's it
 
@StefanKottwitz Congrats!
 
@ChristianHupfer It did not arrive yet (maybe at midnight or morning feeding time :-) ), but thanks!
 
7:36 PM
Major Linux distributions are in agreement: it's time to stop developing new versions for 32-bit processors. Simply: it's a waste of time, both to create the 32-bit port, and to keep 32-bit hardware around to test it on. At the end of June, Ubuntu developer Dimitri Ledkov chipped into the debate with this mailing list post, saying bluntly that 32-bit ports are a waste of resources. "Building i386 images is not 'for free', it comes at the cost of utilising our build farm, QA and validation time. Whilst we have scalable build-farms, i386 still requires all packages, autopackage tests, and ISO
/shakes fist UBUNTU
 
7:59 PM
Could someone with Windows test this line for me? lua -e 'print(os.getenv("LANG"))'
 
@PauloCereda cygwin gives
$ lua -e 'print(os.getenv("LANG"))'
en_US.UTF-8
 
@DavidCarlisle Thank you! :)
 
@PauloCereda and texlua doesn't seem to like -e
 
@DavidCarlisle Indeed. :( I was expecting to run this under a true Windows binary. :(
 
@PauloCereda don't have a native windows lua
 
8:03 PM
@DavidCarlisle No worries. :) At some point, I will finish my Windows 10 setup running in my Mac. :)
 
@PauloCereda then you can run cygwin:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Exactly! :)
 
yo'
8:25 PM
> Příliš žluťoučký kůň úpěl ďábelské ódy.
 
@yo' It seems that Google Translate chokes on “žluťoučký”
 
8:45 PM
@yo' Too Publish horse called evil odes.
?
 
yo'
@AlanMunn yeah, contains each diacritic letter exactly once.
 
@yo' Is this the Czech version of "The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog"?
@egreg The root seems to be 'yellow'.
 
yo'
@AlanMunn indeed. It means "cutely yellow"
 
 
2 hours later…
11:02 PM
@JosephWright I've seen today that \noexpand should not be used at the end of \scantokens{..\noexpand} per a comment by wipet. But I've seen you (and more people) say things like that (example). Is expl3 doing it right? I don't exaclty understand the subject, so I don't know what I'm talking about, but may be some \noexpand is there and shouldn't.
 
11:19 PM
@Manuel I think expl3 is using \scan_stop: for the termination
 

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