TeX, LaTeX and Friends

12:01 AM

I seem to remember reading not to use \usepackage[utf8]{inputenc} sometime ago. I really wish there is a document that tells user just what to do. It seems there are infinite number of combinations out there for these things. ps. I know about the font catalogue. I actually have a web page where I tried many fonts allready. That is why it is confusing. Here is my page on this: 12000.org/my_notes/faq/LATEX/math_fonts/index.htm

Canageek

@Nasser Alright, I'm late for GURPS night, let me know how it looks at the end though. I'll see it when I come back online.

@Nasser I don't think so? @PauloCereda is an expert, is there a reason not to use that?

Paulo Cereda

@Canageek Me? I am more curious than an expert. :)

Canageek

@Nasser Oh, yeah, I recognize that. It is a bit out of date as I understand it. Check out the font catalogue I linked to.

Paulo Cereda

@JosephWright, @DavidCarlisle: MORE LOGOS! :)

yo'

7:23 AM

@PauloCereda oh I read "More LEGOS" :)

Jester Tran

In some hands-on tutorial videos, why do people say "what you are going to want to do is..." before they reveal the first step??

Johannes_B

@JesterTran Better not watch hands-on tutorial videos. ;-)

Jester Tran

@Johannes_B I have some friends who say "what you want to do is to type this and that". Why don't they say "type this and that"?

Johannes_B

@JesterTran I don't know. Sounds too commanding?

yo'

@JesterTran it's similar to "We would like to kindly ask you to focus your attention on the fact that walking on this lawn is prohibited" in place of "no trespassing"

Jester Tran

7:36 AM

I see, thanks!

Johannes_B

@yo' Get off of my lawn!

:-)

@egreg @ChristianHupfer Any awards left? vvv

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Q: .tex Notes for Output with Comments for Non-LaTeX Users?

I need to collaborate with non-LaTeX users. I am thinking how I can well print .pdf of my notes for the overview. I need the comments too because they essential for the understanding. I think other semantics can confuse them. Colors can be helpful too. I think Tikz can be the tool here. Exam...

collaboration

Evinda

7:55 AM

Hi!!! How do we symbolize the integral with a line in the middle?

David Carlisle

8:14 AM

@Nasser dont use inputenc with luatex/xetex always use it with pdftex (or write in English:-)

Joseph Wright

@yo' :-)

Torbjørn T.

@Johannes_B I give up ...

Johannes_B

@TorbjørnT. Understandable.

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B one for you: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/309552/…

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle fill error message.

@DavidCarlisle Templates ... gotta love'em

egreg

8:30 AM

@Johannes_B Wonderful!

@DavidCarlisle But don't be naïve

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle undefined \@tempa and tocloft I'll eat first, look later

Evinda

Hey @DavidCarlisle @egreg
Do you have an idea how we symbolize the integral with a line in the middle?

egreg

@Evinda esint has one with a diagonal line; otherwise it is also in our site, I think.

@Evinda See here

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A: Average integral symbol

The following example defines macro \mint{<symbol>} (\limits|\nolimits|\displaylimits)* _{...} ^{...} The first argument is the symbol that is put in smaller math style in the middle of the integral symbol. Then a limits specification follows, any number and order. The last one is used. Then ...

Evinda

8:45 AM

None of these worked :( @egreg

egreg

@Evinda ?

Evinda

I tried \esint, and other commands suggested at the site you sent me but I didn't get the symbol. @egreg

Johannes_B

@TorbjørnT. @egreg Is it worse now? Or am i really starting to loose my marbles?

Torbjørn T.

@Johannes_B I mean, it seems to me he's going about that the wrong way altogether, and the best solution would be to suggest a completely different way of writing those notes.

Johannes_B

@TorbjørnT. Agreed. Or some kind of conditional typesetting with a boolean.

Torbjørn T.

9:03 AM

@Johannes_B Yes, that was also my thought.

egreg

@Evinda There is no \esint command; the package esint provides the command \fint; on the other hand, the \mint command defined in Heiko's answer should do what you need.

Evinda

@egreg I write it here: codecogs.com/latex/eqneditor.php but I don't get the wanted symbol.

egreg

@Evinda You have to supply the definitions, I don't know what the site is supposed to do in that case.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B What do you mean? I don't understand

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Read the question. Award for most unclear question.

Christian Hupfer

9:19 AM

@Johannes_B Ah, that question belongs to your somewhat unrelated comment ;-)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Yes, hence the arrows.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B You're posting a lot of stuff that's not related, in a row, so the arrow does not mean much :-P

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Anything for lunch?

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B No recipe again .... Ulrike will complain about 'unclear' statements made for cooks in stress ;-)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I would argue that the chicken is diced too late. :-p

Christian Hupfer

9:27 AM

@Johannes_B You can dice it before, but the onions and the spices must be fried first :-P

@Johannes_B: Do it as you like, I actually don't care as long as I don't have to eat then

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Yesterdays meal: Reis mit Blubber

@TorbjørnT. I am more than confused by the last part of the question. I have no idea what he is looking for.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: You know that Masi is the Dark Lord of unclear Questions ;-) Almost impossible to answer them

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Yes, hence i asked if we have any awards left.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B I already suggested a {Most unclear questions asked ever} badge here in badge, some months ago

@Johannes_B: The label question has not been improved by the O.P.'s comments :-(

Joseph Wright

@ChristianHupfer Other sites of course would downvote and then question-ban people, but that's really not the way we've worked

Christian Hupfer

9:42 AM

@JosephWright Have you seen his ridiculous 105 gold badges on SO? :D All for questions

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer I really don't understand the question.

egreg

@ChristianHupfer Apparently he knows how to make good questions on SO. Definitely not on TeX.SX.

Christian Hupfer

@egreg The community on SO is larger than here and it's rather the some stupid upvoting behaviour than posting good questions, I assume

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer This is a very good question, depending on the way you look at things:

402

Q: To switch from vertical split to horizontal split fast in Vim

How can you switch your current windows from horizontal split to vertical split and vice versa in Vim? I did that a moment ago by accident but I cannot find the key again.

vim split

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B It's a vim - question ;-) I can't find anything good in it :-P

Paulo Cereda

9:52 AM

@ChristianHupfer oy

egreg

@ChristianHupfer “I did that a moment ago by accident but I cannot find the key again.” Isn't this normal with vim?

Christian Hupfer

@egreg It's the main design ~~bug~~ feature of vim ;-) @PauloCereda :-P

Johannes_B

What is CHM?

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Q: How To Convert LaTeX to .chm with video?

It is unstable to have videos inside .pdf documents generated by LaTeX. CHM should have such a support. I cannot find any way to convert LaTeX directly to .chm, etc discussed here about LaTex to HTMLhelp. I aim to include some videos in the .chm files. Some options plasTeX, manual here but s...

chm video

Christian Hupfer

locutus@Todesstern:~> vi
vi is banned and redirected to /dev/null
locutus@Todesstern:~>

Torbjørn T.

@Johannes_B en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Compiled_HTML_Help I'd guess. He mentioned something about MS help format in the other question.

Johannes_B

10:03 AM

@TorbjørnT. Didn't know that existed. Wiki states that sumatra pdf supports .chm ... but ... putting a video in such a thing will still not automatically show the video? Right?

Torbjørn T.

@Johannes_B No idea.

Paulo Cereda

@Johannes_B It's an old help format for MS Windows.

Johannes_B

@JosephWright Since this was solved by updating, off topic? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/303239/…

@PauloCereda How to create MS help files using LaTeX.

Funny.

egreg

@Johannes_B Applied the deserved vote as unclear

Paulo Cereda

@Johannes_B People who want to exploit good formats in an attempt to make them do things they are not supposed to (e.g, playing videos) deserve no sympathy. :)

Johannes_B

10:05 AM

@PauloCereda :-)

Paulo Cereda

I want my toaster to make coffee

@Johannes_B <3

Johannes_B

Honestly, as far as i am cocerned, this question could might as well be asking how to dig holes in your garden with an unplugged electrical chainsaw. Apart from the fact, that you could use the blade for shoveling, or attach some small spade using cable binders, using a real shovel seems to be the sane approach here. — Johannes_B Apr 24 at 12:49

@PauloCereda <3

Paulo Cereda

@Johannes_B You sir, are a true legend. :)

Johannes_B

@PauloCereda :-D

Paulo Cereda

@Johannes: one day, I got an email from a person saying, why doesn't arara behave just like latexmk?, to which I replied, *the tools have different approaches, they do different things. Then the person insisted, But I want arara to behave like latexmk, then I said, sure! just write % arara: pdflatexmk. The person never bothered me again. :D

Johannes_B

10:12 AM

@PauloCereda :-)

Alenanno

The luck of having a question closed in your face when you're about to click "post answer". >_>

Johannes_B

@Alenanno reopen?

Alenanno

@Johannes_B I voted but it's not like I can reopen it by myself. And even if I had the power to do it, I wouldn't.

But still...

The weird thing is that it should have let me answer since I started writing the answer, but Post Answer was greyed out.

Johannes_B

@Alenanno Which question is it?

Alenanno

@Johannes_B The magic quadrant one, wait, I'll give you the link

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Q: How is it possible to make a "magic quadrant"?

How is it possible to make a "magic quadrant"?

tikz-pgf pgfplots

egreg

10:28 AM

@Alenanno Voted for reopening: “too broad” is silly

Johannes_B

@Alenanno Voted, though i think the question isn't very good.

Alenanno

@egreg Yeah the close reason doesn't match either. Besides, even if you can create the same graphic with a lot of commands, I don't think it's a very basic one.

@Johannes_B Yeah but unlike others, the graphics in this case is a bit harder to replicate.

Oh by the way, I recently graduated guys. I finally broke the chains of oppression! :D

Torbjørn T.

@Johannes_B Perhaps not, but there are so many of those questions left open, so why close this one?

Christian Hupfer

10:59 AM

@Alenanno Graduated? Congrad(!)ulations then :-P

Alenanno

@ChristianHupfer Yes, now I can finally learn Python.

@ChristianHupfer ahah :D thanks

Christian Hupfer

@Alenanno And what's you degree now?

Alenanno

@ChristianHupfer I graduated in languages, under linguistics, but in Italian it would be "Dottore in Lingue e Letterature Straniere" :D I'll know this for sure next week, after my proclamation.

Christian Hupfer

@Alenanno Doctor of Non-Italian Language and Literature then? Most Impressive

Alenanno

@ChristianHupfer Yes, exactly like that. But my particular thesis was in Linguistics.

Written in Latex of course! :D

Christian Hupfer

11:05 AM

@Alenanno Well, I suspect most of us here use (La)TeX for their thesis -- it's just a guess, only. I am unsure about @egreg and @DavidCarlisle: They used clay tables, most likely ;-)

Alenanno

@ChristianHupfer lol why clay?

Christian Hupfer

@Alenanno: Like the old Babylonians? :D (Because they are old :D)

Alenanno

@ChristianHupfer Ahahah :D yeah

egreg

@ChristianHupfer I used to be very proficient in cuneiform writing

Christian Hupfer

@egreg Yes, I know about your cuneiform theory of physics ;-)

egreg

11:20 AM

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@ChristianHupfer ^^^^^^^^

Christian Hupfer

@egreg :D :D

David Carlisle

11:36 AM

@PauloCereda but still not a newer format that's usable:(

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle Nope. :(

Paulo Cereda

12:00 PM

@egreg writing on clay tables can be fun LOLOLOLOL

egreg

12:51 PM

@PauloCereda By the way, this shows I do know cuneiform:

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A: Working with Old Babylonian cuneiform in TeXstudio

Here's an example; you shouldn't make Santakku as the main font, because it lacks support for several used characters and it seems much like a poor clone of Times for the non cuneiform part. If your editor has font support, you can even type in the characters. \documentclass{article} \usepackag...

Paulo Cereda

@egreg oooooooh

egreg

@PauloCereda ;-)

Johannes_B

1:05 PM

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{tocloft}
\begin{document}
\begin{tabular}{l@{\cftdotfill{\cftdotsep}\extracolsep{\fill}}r}
	w
\end{tabular}
\end{document}

@DavidCarlisle ^^^^^

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B as I said, fragile command in moving argument. add \usepackage{array} and all will be fine

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle I suggested to leave that stuff out.

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B well array package is generally a good thing to have anyway:-)

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle True that. :-)

@DavidCarlisle reddit.com/r/LaTeX/comments/4fn6md/…

Joseph Wright

@Johannes_B Well that's a fault in sgame: array is part of the LaTeX core distro

Johannes_B

1:12 PM

@JosephWright I never doubted that.

David Carlisle

@Johannes_B what Joseph said.

Johannes_B

@DavidCarlisle :-)

David Carlisle

Meanwhile I'm fixing oberdiek bundle on ctan while Heiko's answering longtable questions here. Strange the way things evolve:-)

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Johannes_B

@JosephWright Question about word. Off-topic? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/309585/…

Joseph Wright

1:30 PM

@Johannes_B Yup

@cfr On the references question, it's of course more obvious if you are used to numerical citations given without sorting (common in chemistry)

@cfr As I've said, I think the problem is complex as a programming challenge well before one brings in TeX. I do occasionally manually reorder citations when I spot the sort of thing @Canageek has asked about, much for the reason outlined in the question

@cfr Another facet is that normally for a set of 'related' refs I'd want to keep them in year order (so say keys Foo2010, Foo2011, Foo2012 rather than Foo2012, Foo2010, Foo2011), which would also have to be considered (and there relies on having the 'date info' available)

Johannes_B

2:40 PM

@JosephWright Seems the link in the question can be removed: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/7535/…

Joseph Wright

@Johannes_B Done

Johannes_B

@JosephWright Thank you.

Ulrike Fischer

3:08 PM

@JosephWright Did you had time to look at the \clearpage issue? Or should I better add it to the latex3 tracker so that it doesn't get lost?

Johannes_B

3:18 PM

@JosephWright Now, honestly, a question like that? tex.stackexchange.com/questions/309592/…

Joseph Wright

@UlrikeFischer Had a quick look, will have another go today

@UlrikeFischer Comments in ltoutput.dtx are not entirely helpful :-)

Ulrike Fischer

@JosephWright You don't need to hurry. But until tomorrow I will probably have forgotten it ... (I didn't really understand what the write-1 is doing to avoid an additional page either ...)

Joseph Wright

@UlrikeFischer No, I'm not clear but more importantly we've got the whole 'don't add directly to the MVL' business

Joseph Wright

4:00 PM

@UlrikeFischer Ah, got it

Johannes_B

4:16 PM

@ChristianHupfer Now, this is evidence. I can tell the name of the template by looking at just a snippet. Where are my cookies?

David Carlisle

4:32 PM

@JosephWright you don't like my oldcomments environment?

Joseph Wright

% \clearpage == BEGIN \newpage
%                     \write -1{}    % Part of hack to make sure no
%                     \vbox{}        % \write's get lost.
%                     \penalty -10001
%               END

@DavidCarlisle ^^^^

'Part of a hack': yes, very good, where's the description?

David Carlisle

@JosephWright in Leslie's brain. I think I once knew the issue there but not just at the moment. ping Frank:-)

@JosephWright I think the issue relates to a page that is empty but just has deferred writes if latex makes a float page it could discard the mvl losing the writes but memory is very vague....

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Nah: the l3galley adjustments are purely 'for testing' and as \write is not being used we should be fine

@DavidCarlisle I'd moved the \write but had left the \vbox, basically as I'd not read the comments at all: I've now dropped both

@DavidCarlisle Let me check Frank's galley2 code from the late 1990s

David Carlisle

@JosephWright I just checked that comment was in latex2.09 from same date:-)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Ah, cool, so Leslie

@DavidCarlisle Frank's version of the galley plan has the \write still there, but perhaps he did it mechanically

David Carlisle

4:41 PM

@JosephWright yes (almost) all the oldcomments stuff is from 2.09

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle I think for testing the 'remove and cross fingers' approach is OK

David Carlisle

@JosephWright sounds like a good plan

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle What I'm less sure about is \addvspace, which came up a few days ago

David Carlisle

@JosephWright dont we have a galley addvspace equivalent already?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Yes, but in the model in l3galley a 'user vspace' is taken as a one-off, whereas we saw that for example at the start of itemize there's an assumption you can do two \addvspace calls in a row and have them add

David Carlisle

4:44 PM

I'm wondering about making ctan happy and updating all the dtx to not reference ftp.ctan and reference http pkg page and github issues instead.

@JosephWright ah that's where the space went...

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Frank's version I think does something different again: it takes the 'largest' space of what is set 'now' and what is being requested

@DavidCarlisle Yes

David Carlisle

@JosephWright that sounds closer to what addvspace does

Ulrike Fischer

@JosephWright @DavidCarlisle I'm not sure that you saw the follow up question. Imho \addvspace is a bit dubious and the change in everypar has side effects too: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/309426/…

David Carlisle

@UlrikeFischer probably not I was at my parents for a couple of days and not paying that much attention here:-)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle \addvspace \@topsep \addvspace {-\parskip }: not exactly

@UlrikeFischer The entire plan means that \everypar and \par in particular need very different handling from the 2e case

David Carlisle

4:48 PM

@JosephWright vv

% The sequence\\
%         |\addvspace|\marg{s1} |\addvspace|\marg{s2}
% is equivalent to\\
%         |\addvspace|\marg{maximum of s1, s2}.
%

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle OK, perhaps one for the team list (I can do that for testing using some internal vars, but is the code-level interface right as it stands)

Ulrike Fischer

@JosephWright Yes, but this means that one need suitable replacements for the different everypar tricks.

Joseph Wright

@UlrikeFischer @UlrikeFischer I know you know the status of l3galley, it's hard to explain to other people what is going on!

@UlrikeFischer There are mechanisms in l3galley for (I hope) any reasonable request to add stuff to a paragraph

Christian Hupfer

5:00 PM

@Johannes_B Fighting against wind mills ;-)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Mystery solved in chat with the help of @TorbjørnT. and the OP. no wind mills.

@ChristianHupfer Oh, the template stuff? Huge wind mills. Gundar needs to get stronger.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B There will be a Gundar the Template Hunter in WarCraft, I am sure :-P

@Johannes_B: And Gundar Action Figures

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Oh, i like that.

@ChristianHupfer A minimal working example (500k tar) including 58 files.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B A small bundle then ;-)

Cooking time

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Which meal today?

barbara beeton

5:22 PM

@Evinda -- the xits fonts should include this with the name \intbar.

Alan Munn

I'm going to this year's Fibonacci convention.
It'll be as big as the last two put together!

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barbara beeton

@Alenanno -- congratulations from here too.

egreg

5:37 PM

@Alenanno Congratulations!

Alan Munn

@Alenanno congratulations. What was your thesis on?

Pichi Wuana

Is there a plugin I can add to WhatsApp Web (the receiver will add it too)

for MathJax

Alenanno

@barbarabeeton @egreg @AlanMunn Thank you all guys!

@AlanMunn Abstract possession and possession in general. :D

Alan Munn

@Alenanno Interesting. Syntax or semantics or a bit of both? What framework did you work in?

Alenanno

5:53 PM

@AlanMunn It was more a view on how it was used in some languages.

I mean, nothing particularly "in depth". The topic is vast and complicated.

As you well know :D

Alan Munn

@Alenanno 'Dottore' in the Italian system is for laurea magistrale, right? This wasn't your PhD.

Alenanno

@AlanMunn No, any graduation level makes you a "dottore", but lower is "Dottore", then you have "dottore magistrale" for the specialization and "dottore di ricerca" for the PhD.

Alan Munn

@Alenanno It's a confusing system for those of us outside of Italy. :)

Alenanno

@AlanMunn I think it's confusing for us too sometimes. :D

David Carlisle

@daleif, I suppose this is a known issue?

\documentclass{memoir}
\begin{document}
\end{document}

with new luatex

! Undefined control sequence.
\@begindocumenthook ...e \ifpdf \ifnum \pdfoutput

egreg

6:03 PM

@DavidCarlisle How many zillion documents will break if tried with LuaLaTeX?

Alan Munn

@DavidCarlisle Now that's a minimal example. :)

Alenanno

@AlanMunn That's what I was thinking. Shortest document ever.

David Carlisle

@AlanMunn actually not, you could omit the last third of it and show the same error:-)

Alan Munn

@DavidCarlisle That damn extension/intension distinction will get you every time. :)

David Carlisle

@egreg I'm sure Hans considered that before deciding to do a cosmetic refactoring and renaming of the primitives.

Alan Munn

6:07 PM

@Alenanno Not quite: \bye compiled in TeX is shorter.

Alenanno

@AlanMunn "extension/intension"... That's familiar.

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Everybody switch to ConTeXt!

Alenanno

@AlanMunn eheh

egreg

@Johannes_B This is for you! Our expert in templates!

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Q: What is a template?

Regarding LaTeX I understand terms such as class, package, and so on but I don't understand the meaning of template as used by many questioners. Is it what is traditionally called a package or class or is it an example of a complete TeX document where the user edits the textual content, or ...?

packages templates class

Alan Munn

George Takei says Oh My for 10 Minutes

►

Christian Hupfer

6:20 PM

@AlanMunn Oh, Captain Sulu :D

daleif

@DavidCarlisle sigh, I'll add it to the list, why are they messing so many things up in luatex?

Joseph Wright

@daleif Change of back end primitive names

David Carlisle

@daleif luatex has removed or renamed all the \pdfxxx commands that came from pdftex as a minor cosmetic code cleanup.....

@daleif don't suppose you could push an update in the next couple of days could you?? (otherwise it'll go out like that on the texlive 2016 dvd and you will get bug reports all year....)

daleif

@DavidCarlisle so much for backward compatibility. As far as I remember, memoir will use ifpdf and ifluatex if they are present.

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Expect l3pgf soon, once I've sorted out all of this l3galley stuff [where's FMi when you need him ;)]

Christian Hupfer

6:28 PM

@Johannes_B Pizza

daleif

@DavidCarlisle if I can figure out what is wrong with the code. Personally I don't use lualatex that much as I see it as highly unstable

David Carlisle

@daleif yes but ifpdf means writing pdf it doesn't mean pdftex and now doesn't mean \pdfoutput is defined (as Hans has renamed it to \outputmode)

Johannes_B

I haven't had pizza in while.

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David Carlisle

@daleif join Joseph and my club:-)

daleif

@DavidCarlisle if time permits, I'll have a look tomorrow.

David Carlisle

6:30 PM

@daleif simplest (but not necessarily best) is to add `\ifx\pdfextension\@undefined\else\RequirePackage{luatex85}\fi at the top of memoir then it'll load a compatibility package defining all the old names

daleif

@DavidCarlisle what about people who manually update memoir, if we change stuff and it does not work because they are still on old luatex

David Carlisle

@daleif the above does nothing on old luatex (or pdftex or xetex) as pdfextension isn't defined so it is safe but luatex is so unstable that compatibility with older versions just can't be guaranteed, if you have actual lua code all the node interfaces have changed so making it work for more than one release is a nighmare

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Too bad -- it's nothing left -- we ate it completely

daleif

@DavidCarlisle i understand why Heiko got so salty

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: Preparing an answer to the template question? :D

Johannes_B

6:35 PM

@ChristianHupfer Which one? A new one? o.O

Christian Hupfer

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Q: What is a template?

Regarding LaTeX I understand terms such as class, package, and so on but I don't understand the meaning of template as used by many questioners. Is it what is traditionally called a package or class or is it an example of a complete TeX document where the user edits the textual content, or ...?

packages templates document-classes

@Johannes_B Tomaten auf den Augen? :D

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Your pizza ping came about 30 seconds after i came back from grocerie shopping.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Which explains the tomato thingy :-P

@ChristianHupfer, I'm using the a4paper class. — user2738748 4 mins ago

Oh my :-((((((

@Johannes_B: Any idea about this template virus called Classes/PhDThesisPSnPDF?

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Seriously, i thought that would be about the add chapter to template question (which is a dupe on site, yes). And then i saw the Q you mean here in chat and brains first response was Oh f*ck me.

@ChristianHupfer Sure. git repo says: You'll get a warning because of the name, don't worry. That is normal.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Don't use such naughty words such as 'brain' here :D

Johannes_B

6:47 PM

@ChristianHupfer Insanity is coming closer, ich darf das.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B That's the warning? Is it usable in any case or is it rubbish as usual?

@Johannes_B Closer to what? I thought you've crossed the point of no return already :-P

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer What do you think?

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Rubbish, most likely ;-)

0

Q: resume template and small caps

My MWE is, \documentclass{resume} % Use the custom resume.cls style \usepackage[left=0.75in,top=0.6in,right=0.75in,bottom=0.6in]{geometry} \usepackage{hyperref} \usepackage[usenames,dvipsnames]{xcolor} \definecolor{linkcolour}{rgb}{0,0.2,0.6} % Link color \hypersetup{colorlinks,breaklinks,ur...

templates resume

@Johannes_B: Oh my, is it 'Save the Holy Template' - Day ???

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer many \ifpdf tests and stuff like \usepackage[pdftex]{graphicx}

I am using LaTeX for years, i know my bits and pieces, but that template completely confuses me. It is overly overly complicated and intimidating. — Johannes_B 3 hours ago

@ChristianHupfer I bet a cookie that this is either going to be l-templates, or the original by Trey from github.

yo'

@Johannes_B is there any way how to make a pull request that destroys the repo? :D

Johannes_B

6:58 PM

@yo' :-D

@Johannes_B @ChristianHupfer Nope, i owe a cookie.

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: Regarding this PhDThesis.... stuff: It's a shame that a such a known university such as Cambridge allows such LaTeX packages :-(

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Seen the MIT ones? ;-)

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Not yet

Johannes_B

@Johannes_B @ChristianHupfer Ha. github.com/treyhunner/resume/blob/master/resume.tex

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: The O.P. of the resume stuff still uses resume.cls but links to res.cls ;-)

Johannes_B

7:13 PM

@ChristianHupfer It is Trey's stuff.

egreg

@AlanMunn LOL

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B Do I have to know Trey? Or Tray? ;-)

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer No. I have seen his code so many times, i got familiar with him. Other names in the same area: Frits, Vel, Sunil

@ChristianHupfer @JosephWright On sites like puzzling.SE, there is that spoiler thing, so you can hide stuff. Is that available here? That P{\sc h}.D looks really awful. Wow, i am an idiot.

Joseph Wright

@Johannes_B Yes: it's network-wide

Johannes_B

7:29 PM

@ChristianHupfer fixed screenshot.

If anybody wants to hear the ramblings of a mad man, just give me a ping and i add an answer. — Johannes_B 53 mins ago

Davïd

7:47 PM

Making silly #latex jokes is much more fun than doing final tweaks in my thesis on #coeffects... https://t.co/UftJ3pkE4O

Tweeted by tomaspetricek on May 11, 2016 at 5:00 PM

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle The question now is now many l3galley things to do before sending to CTAN ...

Davïd

^^^ accompanying image =

12

Thought the crew in here might enjoy that one (... OTOH, it's probably been seen here before!).

Christian Hupfer

@Davïd I am fascinated by that non-wrapping line of Typesetting -- ah, it's satire :-P

Johannes_B

@Davïd Saw it on twitter, inital thought: Overfull \hbox

David Carlisle

@JosephWright If they can cope with me uploading oberdiek.zip every other day, they can cope with an l3galley update or two

Joseph Wright

8:06 PM

@DavidCarlisle I meant more that I've tracked down some things at the galley end, but I'm not sure I do all of the stuff mentioned in tex.stackexchange.com/questions/309426/… quickly

David Carlisle

@JosephWright sure but do you mean update now before tl2016 dvd (in which case, basically just whatever you have now) or an update later in the year?

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Yeah, I'll probably do an update in a sec

David Carlisle

@JosephWright ooh I think I've fixed all the luatex errors in ho-tex (apart from the memoir one, and expected ones like test files using xetex options etc)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Phew

David Carlisle

may be some lurking as I haven't checked every log yet and there's no advance classification of the tests (eg some need plain tex but i'm running all with latex for now) but ctan update for pdfrender, askinclude and ifpdf (again) coming up

Vrouvrou

8:53 PM

can someone help me

\documentclass[tikz]{standalone}
\usepackage{pgfplots}
%\pgfplotsset{compat=1.8}
\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}[
declare function={
func(\x)= -1 +
and(\x>-1-\frac1n, \x<=1) * (2 - \x - \x*\x) +
and(\x>1, \x<=2) * (6 - 8*\x + 2*\x*\x) +
(\x>2) * (-10 + 6*\x - \x*\x);
}
]
\begin{axis}[
axis x line=middle, axis y line=middle,
ymin=-2, ymax=2, ytick={-2,...,2}, ylabel=$f_n(x)$,
xmin=-1, xmax=1, xtick={-1,...,1}, xlabel=$x$,
]
%\pgfplotsinvokeforeach{-2, 1, 2}{

%\addplot[blue, domain=-1:1, smooth]{func(x)};

i need to draw this :

f_n(t)=

\begin{cases}

-1,~ -1\leq t\leq -\frac1n,\\

\frac{t}{n},~~~\frac1n\leq t\leq \frac1n,\\

1,~~~~~\frac1n\leq t\leq 1.

\end{cases}

i don't know how to do

Ulrike Fischer

@JosephWright I wanted to check the changes in l3galley and got the last version from github and now get an error with this document

\documentclass[a5paper]{article}

\usepackage{l3galley}
\begin{document}

\begin{center}
blub
\end{center}
\vspace{10pt}
\end{document}

! Illegal unit of measure (pt inserted).
<to be read again>
                   +
l.18 \vspace{10pt}

yo'

@Vrouvrou you better ask a question on the site, as people usually do.

Torbjørn T.

@Vrouvrou What is n?

Joseph Wright

@UlrikeFischer Will take a look

Vrouvrou

$n$ is a naturel number

@TorbjørnT.

yo'

9:02 PM

@Vrouvrou That's not the most helpful clarification, and clearly shows why such questions shall not be posted in the chat.

Vrouvrou

i posted on the site they say to me that is not a question to poste

Torbjørn T.

@Vrouvrou Yeah I got that. Anyway, \frac is a macro for typesetting fractions, not calculating one. use 1/n.

Joseph Wright

@UlrikeFischer Distraction from Eurovision ;)

Torbjørn T.

@Vrouvrou When/where?

yo'

@Vrouvrou I can't see any question by you from the last 12 months?!

Vrouvrou

9:04 PM

i delete it

Torbjørn T.

@Vrouvrou Well, there's nothing wrong with posting the code you had and asking what's wrong with it.

Vrouvrou

can you just tel me how to put -\frac1n and \frac1n

Torbjørn T.

@Vrouvrou I just did.

1/n.

Vrouvrou

but where i must put it

yo'

@JosephWright If there's a recently deleted question, it should appear in 20k tools, right?

Joseph Wright

9:10 PM

@yo' Erm, I guess

yo'

@JosephWright Vrouvrou says he deleted his own question recently, I can't see it...

egreg

@DavidCarlisle It's hard to understand how the analog of \catcode`\_=12 for # can be interpreted as \catcode`#_=12. At Rome they would say “sei de coccio” (more or less “your head is made of earthenware”).

Vrouvrou

i'm asking the question now if someone want to help me

yo'

@egreg yeah, that guy seems to ask only very clever and profound questions

Joseph Wright

@yo' I can :-)

yo'

9:13 PM

@JosephWright I'll try again

@JosephWright I can't :-(

Joseph Wright

@yo' Ah, there we are then

yo'

(thought it could be a caching issue, but obviously not)

David Carlisle

@egreg :-)

yo'

I promise this is my last rude comment in the discussion.

Vrouvrou

9:30 PM

@TorbjørnT. ?

are you there

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{pgfplots,amsmath}
%\pgfplotsset{compat=1.8}
\begin{document}
\begin{tikzpicture}[
declare function={
func(\x>-1,\x<=-1/\n)= -1 +
and(\x>-1/\n, \x<=1/\n) * (\x/\n) +
and(\x>1/\n, \x<=1) * (1);
}
]
\begin{axis}[
axis x line=middle, axis y line=middle,
ymin=-2, ymax=2, ytick={-2,...,2}, ylabel=$f_n(x)$,
xmin=-3, xmax=1, xtick={-1,...,1}, xlabel=$x$,
]
\pgfplotsinvokeforeach{-1, 0, 1}{
\addplot+[mark=none,thick,domain=-3:1,samples=100]{func(x,#1)};
}
\end{axis}
\end{tikzpicture}

can someone help me i need someting like this

@TorbjørnT.

Torbjørn T.

@Vrouvrou Did you see my updated answer?

Vrouvrou

yes

it is not the same

Torbjørn T.

@Vrouvrou Let me think for a bit.

Nicola Talbot

Hello all! I'm developing a new package that generates dummy indexes for testing. Similar in concept to lipsum and blindtext but the dummy text is interspersed with \index. This should generate an index that's at least three pages (obviously dependent on page size, font etc), but it makes it easier to test headers/footers in a double-page spread. It includes extended Latin characters to test xindy/makeindex.

It's currently on my experimental code page. The index includes @Paulo, @David and @Joseph. Hope you don't mind :-)

Alan Munn

9:45 PM

0

Q: How is words order in sentences English?

How is words order in all sentences English? Please express formula Thank you

grammar

Fantastic.

Joseph Wright

@AlanMunn :-)

Alan Munn

@JosephWright Clearly the only sensible response is '42'.

Ulrike Fischer

@AlanMunn Or "one after the other"

Alan Munn

@UlrikeFischer :) yes, that's even better. It's truly general, and works for all sentences!

Vrouvrou

@TorbjørnT. have an idea please

Torbjørn T.

9:59 PM

@Vrouvrou I don't know what's wrong at the moment, sorry.

Joseph Wright

@UlrikeFischer Fixed version off to CTAN

Vrouvrou

@TorbjørnT. from where comes red and brown colors ?

Torbjørn T.

@Vrouvrou Well, you get that for n=1. What did you expect for n=2?

@Vrouvrou Lines for n=-2 and n=2. Because of \pgfplotsinvokeforeach.

Vrouvrou

i don't understand

Torbjørn T.

@Vrouvrou What part?

Vrouvrou

10:14 PM

n=2

Torbjørn T.

@Vrouvrou There is an n in your equation. What result did you expect for n=2?

Vrouvrou

-1 when -1\leq t\leq -1/2, t/2,when -1/2\leq t\leq \frac12, 1, when \frac12\leq t\leq 1

the same picture

Torbjørn T.

@Vrouvrou You can't expect the same picture for n=1 and n=2.

Vrouvrou

yes for n=1 it is different

Torbjørn T.

@Vrouvrou The picture I showed in the (currently deleted) answer was correct according to your equation for n=1 and n=2, but it failed for n=-2.

Vrouvrou

10:21 PM

n is natural so it can't be <0

Torbjørn T.

@Vrouvrou Right didn't consider that. But you were the one who had put -2 in the \pgfplotsforeachinvoke in the first place ..

Vrouvrou

why it is related to n ?

it is related to x

no?

Torbjørn T.

@Vrouvrou Huh? There is very clearly an n in your equation, so how can it not depend on the value of n? And I assumed, due to the presence of \pgfplotsinvokeforeach, that you wanted to draw the function for different values of n. Was that incorrect?

Vrouvrou

no

not for different values of n

Torbjørn T.

@Vrouvrou Sorry, my bad. Which n do you want to plot for then?

Vrouvrou

10:29 PM

n=2 for example

Torbjørn T.

@Vrouvrou I undeleted my answer. That is the correct plot according to your equation.

Vrouvrou

mathematicaly it is not correct, it must be like my picture i don't uderstand the problem