Why when adding a picture to an answer with the new interface we get [![enter image description here][1]][1] instead of ![enter image description here][1]?
@egreg no, I don't think so. The idea is that you get the same image (most people don't care about the bandwidth), but it's small in the post and large after clicking it
Where is @Werner when you need the proper link to MSE?! :D
yes there's lots of it to do with adding two parallel encoding things for kanji and roman, and the two directions, but then there is stuff that is just grabbing names all over eg `\newdimen\Cht \newdimen\cht \newdimen\Cdp \newdimen\cdp \newdimen\Cwd \newdimen\cwd \newdimen\Cvs \newdimen\cvs \newdimen\Chs \newdimen\chs \newdimen\cHT`
@DavidCarlisle I think this is rather different from the LuaTeX/XeTeX business: pLaTeX is a very different beast from LaTeX, as shown by the number of source files, etc.
@DavidCarlisle This is going to make testing a bit interesting: I'm working out what is best
@JosephWright yes but comes back to the question of whether it can be a supported format in the sense we hope to make xetex and luatex supported, or if the best we can hope for is just not breaking it
@DavidCarlisle Does the addition I've just made to l3build make sense: that's needed by anyone wanting to use l3build with (u)platex, even if we don't formally extend support
@JosephWright I'd just remove the horizonatl one (whichever that is) just as in luatex I think we just remove TFT then if there are any boxes that go vertical they will show up
@JosephWright speaking of luatex luaotfload currently ends with \RequireLuaModule{luaotfload-main} (just after \RequirePackage{luatexbase}) it would be good to guard the RequirePackage{luatexbase} by something so that in a future format it does nothing, simplest would be ` \ifdefined\RequireLuaModule\else\RequirePackage{...}` but that would mean adding \RequireLuaModule to the kernel level support, currently it's in emu-luatexbase but anything using fontspec ends up with emu-luatexbase
@JosephWright yes I was going to but should I put \RequireLuaModule into the (ltluatex) kernel so that luaotfload can test for that and not load luatexbase?
@JosephWright yes but then if \newluafunction` is there what does it do about \RequireLuaModule define it or avoid it and do \directlua{require instead?
@JosephWright which reminds me of the second problem attempt to call local 'reset_callback' (a nil value) luaotfload does a reset of the define_font callback before its used, which doesn't seem necessary really (and doesn't work if only the core ltluatex is loaded) I suppose I just try to remove that in the pull request....
@JosephWright and then Will does \RequireLuaModule{fontspec} in fontspec....
! LaTeX Error: Too many math alphabets used in version normal.
See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
Type H <return> for immediate help.
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l.244 ...with the inverse limit space $\inverselim
\bZ[\beta]/\beta^n\bZ[\be...
@yo' do you really want 16 alphabets or do you really want 2 new ones and it's easier to allocate two more (unless you run out) than redefine the already allocated ones?
@yo' if you really want more than 16 the answer is simple: tough you can't:-) If you only want half a dozen but you want euler instead of ams or whatever then answer is; it depends.
@Nasser, I did not know the option either. But I did what I usually do, look in the source (it's Perl), and noticed that it did something different when --verbose was given.
@yo' basically bm by default tries to make every font available also in bold, which means that you only have 8 slots not 16 if you want each in normal and bold
@yo' yes but then it doesn't see them at all and so allocates bold fonts for the original fonts that you are about to redefine, it's normally best to load it last
I read the topics page, it does say TEX, LaTEX, etc... or "and related systems", yet I am not sure if this is where I could try for PTC arbortext answers.
Arbortext and styler are pretty common, but the consensus about it is that it lacks the most basic support. There is a forum where you can ...
@yo' You shouldn't load inputenc with xelatex/lualatex, they assume UTF-8. I'm no expert in these matters, but adding fontspec and removing fontenc makes that š appear.
@yo' One reason @DavidCarlisle and I are working on various LuaTeX things is that there are some mismatches between UTF-8 support in pdfTeX and LuaTeX/XeTeX as the underlying system is so different
@yo' The whole business about OpenType math fonts falls in this area: developing them is hard, they need to be available for Unicode engines, you really can't 'mix and match' with traditional TeX fonts, ...
@JosephWright yeah I know. But as seen above, sticking to pdflatex means running into font slots problems. In this sense, I'd really love to switch to lualatex which is capable of it. But then, the font encodings cause issues.
@yo' if you want to go unicode then don't use fontenc if you just want to use luatex for the extended math slot sand lua tricks but use classic fonts use luainputenc and fontenc. (and fix hyphenation another day)
@yo' hyphenation isn't a problem in principle just the way it is set up in texlive the format building assumes pdftex will use T1 and so loads hyphenation patterns assuming that encoding and xetex/luatex assume unicode. so if you decide to use classic tex encodings with xetex the hyphenation is wrong with luatex it's wrong by default but fixable as you can load hyphenation patterns into a normal document
It would be nice to support showing images in their original size when they where automatically resized because they are too big to fit in a question or answer (Example).
I envision it just like in blogs or facebook: You can click on the image and it is shown in its original size in an overlay.
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@PauloCereda -- i would like to report that there are some very pretty araras at the darmstadt zoo ("vivarium"). also some pretty ducks. (the araras were noisy, the ducks less so. but the noisiest were the peafowl. all the owls were very quiet.)
@PauloCereda -- there were four pairs -- two pairs green (two-toned), one pair bright blue with highlights in other colors, and one pair bright, bright red, with blue and yellow (and maybe other colors) bibs. the green ones were the least colorful! (also the quietest.)
@DavidCarlisle Lots? I think the class author has reached the world record. ;-)
This is also quite nice
\def\printabstract{%
\xdef\unlthesis@tmp{\expandafter\theabstractorder[\unlthesis@opt@lang]}
\iteratecsvlist{\unlthesis@printabstract@lang}{\unlthesis@tmp}
% disables protrusion locally in the document for the forthcoming tables of contents
\microtypesetup{protrusion=false}
}
@DavidCarlisle -- no, i was there for every word of egreg's talk. we're still in darmstadt. don't fly back to providence until next monday. (although by then i may need a vacation from my vacation.) and today was the day to visit the zoo -- no rain, and the temp was reasonable (about 20C). paulo's little saw-whet owl is certainly cute. there were no owls quite that small though. (the screech owl and burrowing owl are little and cute too.)
@PauloCereda -- arara-caninde is surely the blue one; they weren't raising their wings, so there was much less yellow visible. i can't decide between the two red araras, but that red is surely striking in the sunlight. the green ones i believe are the maracana-do-buriti; they were rather "shy" and hiding in the back. and, of course, the names were in german on the signs. (i should have written down the latin names, but i didn't.)
@barbarabeeton ooh I wonder what their German names would sound like. :) When I visited Campo Grande last year, there were lots and lots of araras flying nonstop over the streets and buildings all day long. Noisy naughty araras! :)
@PauloCereda -- hmmm. didn't write those down either. (sorry; i've let you down.) but now, with your talk of cheese and wine, you've made me hungry. time to go in search of dinner. (maybe back later.)
@PauloCereda Speaking about dinner: on Sunday, at the hotel, I had a rather good Wienerschnitzel with pommes frites and then a gigantic slice of Apfelstrudel (with whipped cream, of course). :)
@PauloCereda No, it's a bit off hand: I entered Austria near Linz and went south to a town called Liezen, in Styria. The hotel is along the road to Admont, where I'm told there's a very interesting benedictine monastery. Yesterday I travelled westbound beyond Zell am See, basically following the northern side of the Tauern and crossed them through the Felbentauerntunnel.
The alternative road would be the Gloßglockner Hochalpenstraße, up to about 2400m, but with rain and cold it was not a choice, unfortunately. :(
The Hohe Tauern or High Tauern (pl.) (Italian: Alti Tauri) are a mountain range on the main chain of the Central Eastern Alps, comprising the highest peaks east of the Brenner Pass. The crest forms the southern border of the Austrian state of Salzburg with Carinthia and East Tyrol, while a small part in the southwest belongs to the Italian province of South Tyrol. The range includes Austria's highest mountain, the Grossglockner.
For the etymology of the name, see Tauern.
== Geography ==
According to the Alpine Club classification of the Eastern Alps, the range is bounded by the Salzach valley to...
@PauloCereda There are basically three ways for crossing them: the tunnel of the highway, a railroad tunnel (you can put the bike or car on the train), the Hochalpenstraße or the Felberntauerntunnel (5km). Otherwise you have to go around them.
@JosephWright I frequent Meta Stack Exchange and occasionally the "recent feature changes" (FAQ) post. Apart from that, using efficient search terms does help... :)
@DavidCarlisle Oh, so that's where they are? EOL-% materialize, jump off the screen in a face and dematerialize again to be dust in the authors nose, making him sneeze?
@DavidCarlisle I guess it's mainly focussed around a pull-based approach, where each person does their own checkins to a copy of the core repo then asks for a pull: people are notified of that
@DavidCarlisle At least they do put in their banner that it's based on LaTeX2e not actually LaTeX2e
@DavidCarlisle I'm going to fix the urgent issue on CTAN then add the (u)p-TeX primitives to l3names. I'm wondering how if fits in with engine tests: for the change there we'll presumably want \runtime_if_ptex:TF, _etc., which makes life a bit complex!
@DavidCarlisle I take it with ltluatex we now need to wait for the luaoftload outcome?
@JosephWright yes really, people can test with emu-luatexbase but that's doing quite a bit by now so it would be better if they could test without. plan I think should be (but need to check with luatexbase team) that rename emu-luatexbase.sty to luatexbase.sty and have a new thing say originalluatexbase.sty that just does what luatexbase does now (\RequirePackage all the sub packages) that way you get the new by default but can do side by side tests if you need to ...
@JosephWright but alternative (as we did for etex, not entirely successfully) would be not to rename emu-luatexbase and to leave luatexbase.sty loading the old code, then lean on package authors not to load it and just use the built in ltluatex support....
@JosephWright yes (but before offering the options, need to set things up so that any of them would work:-)
@JosephWright speaking of luatexbase emulation, the one thing that's hard to emulate is the first/exclusive callback type name change, the table holding the names isn't exposed, currently I don't support it but would it hurt to leave the old first name in the table as an alias (or expose the table so emu-luatexbase can add to it) or any other lua tricks, only thing I could think of otherwise was writing a wrapper function that tested if the argument was "first" and passing in "exclusive"
@DavidCarlisle I'll fix and upload as README this time but probably will alter l3build to drop that idea as it's no longer required (just leave as README.md in the future)
@PauloCereda -- i disagree. it depends on what you think a template is. some things that some people think are templates are bad, very bad. and some things that i think are templates (assuming my understanding of what a template is, is the "right" one) can be constructed badly. but i believe that there are good templates. (i offer the templates for ams document classes as reasonable ones. even so, i'm sure they could be better, and invite suggestions.)
\documentclass{memoir}
\usepackage{pstricks}
\begin{document}
test
\end{document}
Triggers the error
! LaTeX Error: \RequirePackage or \LoadClass in Options Section.
See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
Type H <return> for immediate help.
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l.63 \ifpst@loadPDF
And h in the ouput console reports
The package `pstricks' is defective.
It attempts to load `ifpdf,xkeyval,ifplatform' in the options section, i.e.,
between \DeclareOption and \ProcessOptions.
?
@PauloCereda: We've done an excursion to a nearby steelworks today, sited at the Rhine river... Awfully noise inside there, and extremely hot. All of us wore a protective suit, helmet and glasses. We entered the main hall just at the right moment, when the molten steel was released from the Bessemer Converter... red hot bars of steel where transported automatically by cranes...
@PauloCereda: They can convert 150 tons of scrap metal (well, steel and iron) into new steel rods (140 tons total then) in 4 hours only...
@ChristianHupfer -- wow! bessemer converters ... thats *old technology. i thought it had been phased out, since nearly all the steel plants in the u.s. (which used that technology heavily) have been closed down for years, and the work shifted "offshore" to places where the work is done "more efficiently", so i presumed that bessemer was outmoded.
@Johannes_B Nope, the scrap metal is stored in this "Kübel" and then emptied in a huge oven, with walls made of ceramic materials... The melt is reached with 3 huge graphite electrodes, after 8 melt cycles (taking about half an hour, an electrode has to be changed)
@ChristianHupfer -- okay. not bessemer; there wasn't that much electricity available when the bessemer process was used. what you're describing is closer to the methods used for refining aluminum. (nonetheless, sounds like a fascinating field trip.)
An electric arc furnace (EAF) is a furnace that heats charged material by means of an electric arc.
Industrial arc furnaces range in size from small units of approximately one ton capacity (used in foundries for producing cast iron products) up to about 400 ton units used for secondary steelmaking. Arc furnaces used in research laboratories and by dentists may have a capacity of only a few dozen grams. Industrial electric arc furnace temperatures can be up to 1,800 °C (3,272 °F), while laboratory units can exceed 3,000 °C (5,432 °F).
Arc furnaces differ from induction furnaces in that the charge...
@DavidCarlisle With LuaTeX this is addressed by the language support package you use. Polyglossia does that, as does Babel for the languages that have LuaTeX support. It’s not really different from the engines where patterns are dumped in the format, since the language has to be specified somehow anyway.
@ArthurReutenauer must admit haven't looked at exactly polyglossia does there but babel in principle supports hyphenation for each encoding so T1 german and Unicode german for example, but as far as I can see it's not actually set up in TL and xetex for example only loads the utf8/unicode patterns doesn't it?