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@Alenanno There's also a problem with \tkzLabelAngle when the angle falls in the 3rd quadrant relative to the origin at the vertex. See my question from the fall about this.
 
1:04 AM
@ChristianHupfer: Hi. :) Please, pretty please, do not take my meta post as accusing, I really have no idea of what's currently happening in the review alley because I don't get too much involved on it. When I joined TeX.sx in 2011, there was no review system and things seem to work better than they are now. Since when this system got into production, things became more automated than they should. (cont)
(contd) I am sure you do your best when reviewing. :) Sadly, a great deal of people does not, they do for badge or privilege hunting, or simply do carelessly for the fun of it. Worse, these gentlemen do never get involved in these discussions, so the gear does not move at all. That's why I'd say the sane approach would be either disable the system as a whole or catechize users to avoid the system as the plague. (cnt)
(cntd) I was in the first Answer the Unanswered session and can vouch of how great it was; everything the review system does now was done (way better) during two hours of dedicated work and healthy discussions in this very chatroom. Still, lots of questions were left untouched, to be tackled in the next session; such questions were not mature enough to receive a definite veredict on what to do. I think the review system wants to discretize something that is inherently subjective. (cont)
 
cfr
@PauloCereda ?
 
(cntd) I believe questions should be handled in a larger time frame in lieu of quick actions done almost instantly. But again, that's my view as an outsider, I don't do janitorial work because I am not competent enough. And I have a great admiration to everybody that handles this. Just a quick example of someone awesome for janitorial work: lockstep. He was an impressive tagging machine, awesome reviewer and friend. He always had posts on meta when in doubt.
@cfr Oh I was talking about my meta thread. :)
@SeanAllred awwwww lovely macro. <3
 
@PauloCereda I’m glad you raised the issue here, I was going to ask you about it because to be honest I had no idea what you mean in your question :-)
 
cfr
1:20 AM
@PauloCereda I'm not evil. At least, I don't think so. I'm not sure. Maybe that means I am. In any case, I should delete my account here. But I can't quite bring myself to do so. Which is stupid.
 
@cfr Oh my, please please please do not delete your account!
 
@PauloCereda I guess that there’s a lot about the review system, which I know nothing about, so I guess I need to learn about it.
 
@cfr Please, I did not want to hurt anyone! :(
I deleted the meta post.
 
@PauloCereda Honestly, I think it’s best :-))
 
cfr
@PauloCereda When I first tried the review system, I gave up because I never managed to read the question quickly enough for it not to disappear from the queue. By the time I'd read it, it had already been closed.
 
1:24 AM
@cfr I never understood how it worked. :(
@ArthurReutenauer Me too. I didn't want to cause any harm.
 
No harm taken on my side, I was just mostly confused :-)
 
cfr
@PauloCereda You shouldn't delete it, please. I'm not upset by your post. Really. I didn't like what felt like being bullied (not by you!) but last week, I realised that it was not just me. And I don't like it. I think the system is bad, but I don't think the campaign against 'recent residents' is helping. I think it will just make things worse.
 
@ChristianHupfer, @cfr and others: I deleted my meta thread. I probably expressed myself in a bad way, with my terrible English. Sorry if, by any chance, I hurt your feelings. I'm deeply, deeply, deeply sorry.
 
cfr
@PauloCereda You really didn't. I only came back here because you posted that.
@PauloCereda I'm sorry. I didn't make that clear and I should have.
 
@PauloCereda I think your English is very good, but you probably didn’t start the discussion in a very sensible way. And the quotes from the Sermon on the Mount also sidetracked from the issue a bit ;-)
 
cfr
1:27 AM
@PauloCereda I almost logged in earlier for the sole purpose of upvoting it. But I was afraid.
 
@cfr No worries, my friend. :) Arthur raised a valid point: I'll leave it deleted and rewrite things. :)
@ArthurReutenauer Ah indeed, I will rewrite the whole thread then undelete it. :)
@Arthur: by the way, we are UK-TUG buddies! Yay! Go UK!
@cfr: How's Lucy? :)
 
@PauloCereda By the way, my favourite quote from the Sermon on the Mount is Matthew 6:34 - where Jesus basically says that it’s a good thing to procrastinate ;-)
 
cfr
@PauloCereda I only went back to reviewing because I felt guilty after the earlier posts on meta about robo reviewers.
 
@PauloCereda My sister had me read that at her wedding.
@PauloCereda Yay UK! Sorry you can’t come to our meeting physically :-(
 
cfr
@PauloCereda Lucy is fine, thanks! Well, she has a bit of an issue with food and is very fussy. But she also has IBS which makes it hard to tell whether she is just playing up or whether we need to take her to the vet for another injection.
 
1:31 AM
@cfr You know, I have a wacky idea! I will go into reviewing! That's a funny way to counterattack the review system: use the review system! Oooh it's so deliciously Godelian!
 
@cfr Lucy’s a pet, I assume? Sorry for intruding.
 
@ArthurReutenauer ooh we should star that. :)
@ArthurReutenauer ^^ :)
 
@cfr Oooh! So cute :-)
 
@ArthurReutenauer One day, hopefully. :)
 
cfr
@ArthurReutenauer A cat, yes. You're not really intruding. I'm just upset and so I'm not being very welcoming. If a certain user was here, that user would no doubt tell you that it is due to my evil plan to take over the world.
 
1:33 AM
@cfr It figures ;-)
 
Dec 30 '14 at 20:42, by Paulo Cereda
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@ArthurReutenauer: this big boy is Fubá, my cat. :)
 
cfr
@ArthurReutenauer I don't really have a plan to take over the world, evil or otherwise. But, if I did, I don't think I'd start with TeX SE.
 
@cfr I’ll send Lucy’s picture to my girlfriend, she’s really upset right now that her mother’s cat ran away and is apparently astray right now.
@cfr That’s where you’re wrong! I think the whole world starts with TeX.
 
@cfr I have a plan of taking over the world with boring slideshows. :)
 
cfr
@ArthurReutenauer Oh, that's hard. My previous cat went AWOL for a few days after she got out through a window and it was horrible.
@PauloCereda I think you'd make a much better reviewer than me.
@PauloCereda Boring meaning no cats?
 
1:37 AM
@cfr Yeah, the whole family is pretty upset, it’s like a national emergency up in central Sweden now to find the tiny cat.
 
@cfr Oh no! :)
@ArthurReutenauer Oh my, sorry to hear. :(
 
cfr
That was my previous cat. This is before she went AWOL. Although she came back a few days later on her own. I'm not sure where she'd been - she was starving hungry.
 
@cfr ooh so cute! What's her name?
 
cfr
@PauloCereda Margali.
 
@cfr ooh
 
cfr
1:41 AM
@PauloCereda This was taken in States. I adopted her there.
 
@cfr :)
 
cfr
@ArthurReutenauer How long has the cat been missing?
 
@cfr Almost one week. She’s been seen in the neighbourhood recently, but apparently there’s a big bad tomcat who’s chasing here whenever she tries to approach the building.
 
cfr
@ArthurReutenauer Oh, dear. There's a white cat which has decided our garden is part of its territory and this has not gone down well with Lucy at all.
 
@ArthurReutenauer Oh no!
 
1:49 AM
Yeah, we hope for the best.
 
cfr
@ArthurReutenauer Yes, it is hard. Cross your fingers, I guess. Hope the other cat gets bored or chased off or something. Sounds as if your cat needs some mates, but cats aren't very good at that kind of thing.
 
@cfr Indeed not ;-0
;-)
 
Friends, time for me to go up the wooden hill to Bedfordshire. :)
Good night @Arthur and @cfr! :)
 
Good night @PauloCereda!
 
cfr
@PauloCereda @ArthurReutenauer Nos da!
 
2:12 AM
So @cfr, mind if I ask what your actual name, and what your involvement with TeX is?
 
2:50 AM
@PauloCereda What happened to your post on meta from earlier today?
 
 
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5:35 AM
@cfr This is one of the issues: the review system is really designed for the main site, where the number of questions is huge and a 'fast' approach is appropriate
@cfr I would be sad if you felt the need to do that. Remember that any comments, etc. which you feel are personal criticism should be flagged. Of course, there is a grey area between 'personal' and 'behavioural' but what is needed for any mod action (on anything) is a clear audit trail of data.
 
 
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6:53 AM
@PauloCereda: I don't feel offended. Your post was very nice, so please undelete it!
@cfr: You've been bullied too? Didn't notice it, because I wasn't really active during the last week
 
7:57 AM
@ChristianHupfer As I said to @cfr, if anyone feels there are comments, answers, etc. which are personal criticism rather than about behaviours then please flag them
The mod team cannot read everything, and having a proper audit trail is by far the best way of bringing things to attention
@yo' Indeed
 
8:33 AM
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Q: Create graph by tikz?

datanhlgHow can I create the image in the attachment? And have any software to create graph in physic and convert its to Latex?

We have somewhere a generic 'How to make plots' question, but it's not in the FAQ list on meta that I can see: anyone know where it is?
 
@JosephWright There is tex.stackexchange.com/questions/2422/… (which I only remember because I answered it), but that is perhaps not the one you meant.
 
@TorbjørnT. Not that one: I think we have one that is something like 'How can I create plots in LaTeX' and mentions pgfplots/Asymptote/PStricks/MetaPost in the answers
Oh, question got deleted: I wonder why
 
@JosephWright Indeed, a bit strange. Was tex.stackexchange.com/questions/3622/… the one you had in mind by the way?
 
8:52 AM
@TorbjørnT. Ah, that's the one
 
9:04 AM
@yo' Kaveh will be busy: he's also chair of UK-TUG
 
@JosephWright Next step: president of the world.
 
@egreg :-)
 
9:33 AM
:) ^^^^
 
9:44 AM
10 hours ago, by David Carlisle
Kaveh is to be crowned king of the world TUG president
 
@JosephWright Yeah, I do too.
 
@Alenanno He posted a second one, also now deleted
 
Besides I was creating an answer for that graph. ¬_¬
 
@Alenanno I had a feeling someone would: the fill part looks a little tricky
 
@JosephWright To be honest the fill part was the easiest part.
The rest is damn hard. :D
 
9:53 AM
@Alenanno Shows you what I know
@Alenanno With pgfplots the sine wave should be pretty trivial, no?
 
@DavidCarlisle Where the difference between living in a republic rather than a monarchy becomes apparent.
 
@JosephWright Prior to 1.10 it was a bit tricky, but with 1.10 filling is easy (one command). The problem was that the cos(x) was inverted (managed to do it) and then the ticks were not aligning with the wave (was still working on it).
 
@egreg maybe that will be the outcome of the EU referendum in 2017, Europe will agree to be ruled by the British monarchy.
 
Anyway, I've been off the grid for a while, has anything happened around here for the last six weeks?I see the profile page has been revamped at least.
 
10:10 AM
@DavidCarlisle And we would have the present heir apparent as king? No way!
 
@ArthurReutenauer texdoc cfr-ini­tials :)
@A.Ellett I deleted it to avoid confusion. I'll rewrite it with some better wording, then undelete it. :)
@ChristianHupfer <3 Sorry again.
 
@egreg no, we'll have Kaveh by then (present lot will be in the tower of London)
 
@DavidCarlisle Then I can reconsider the business.
 
@DavidCarlisle London bridge is falling down! :)
 
@JosephWright Do you remember the name of the user?
 
10:14 AM
@DavidCarlisle Will tourists get to see the former royal family after the crown jewels?
 
@egreg probably.
 
@DavidCarlisle New attraction! Big money!
 
@TorbjørnT. Thanks.
 
@egreg live guillotine broadcast by river valley TV...
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10:19 AM
@DavidCarlisle LOL
 
10:31 AM
 
@egreg ooh :)
 
10:44 AM
@egreg Is that you?
 
@Alenanno Kaveh.
 
@TorbjørnT. Oh.
 
10:58 AM
@Alenanno My crown is much more beautiful.
 
@egreg lol
 
I voted in someone named Ballot. :)
Weird election. :)
Something like Voting Ballot. :)
Er, guys...
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Q: Error in reading csv file

Imtiaz ArifI want to read this from .csv file but getting error Items, FactorLoadings Social Needs (Cronbach's a = 0.695) Smartphone allows me to stay connected with those I care about,0.758 I use smartphone to stay connected with friends and family through social networking websites (Twitter, Facebook...

What's going on?
That was the OP's table?
 
@Jake Is it me or there isn't a way to align a plot to the x axis coordinates?
 
11:31 AM
@Alenanno What do you mean?
 
@TorbjørnT. The "apices" of the sine wave are not aligned to the x ticks. Like the first apex is a little bit after the 3, the second a little bit after the 6, and so on. I was wondering if there was a way to tell pgfplots to use an amplitude/frequency of 3, for example, so that it aligns.
 
@Alenanno \addplot[black,domain=0:13.5,samples=200] {-cos(deg(x*pi/3))};
 
@Alenanno I forget the exact syntax, but you can manually adjust xtick, something like xtick = {pi/2,pi,...,2 * pi} (or whatever)
 
@TorbjørnT. :O let me try.
 
Then xtick={6,12.5},xticklabel style=above
 
11:36 AM
@TorbjørnT. Awesome. Is it in the manual? I couldn't find anything.
 
@Alenanno It's just math, nothing really to do with pgfplots.
 
@TorbjørnT. Eheh
 
12:41 PM
@egreg -- do you wear your crown on top of your motorcycle helmet?
 
@barbarabeeton Always.
 
12:58 PM
Is 1.7 MB too much for the site? :D
A gif I mean.
 
 
1 hour later…
2:00 PM
Back from the mass! My dad sang the psalm!
 
@ChristianHupfer @PauloCereda Did i miss something?
 
2:14 PM
@barbarabeeton Italians don't wear crash helmets:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle -- oh, you mean like rhode islanders?
 
@Johannes_B Did you see the discussion last night?
I'm hopeful some direct contact will clear the air
 
@JosephWright I was attending a very nice garden party. I'll have a look.
 
@Johannes_B Sounds like a good plan to me :-) (The party, not perhaps checking the transcript)
 
@JosephWright Leaving at 4 a.m., sleeping a bit and then scrambled eggs for breakfast at 2 p.m. That was a long needed break :-)
 
2:20 PM
@DavidCarlisle We (mostly) do.
 
2:56 PM
@JosephWright It turned out that i am one of the careless reviewers. All meta posts addressing this in the past (in the time i was active) got my full support. I was never aware of the fact, that i am one of them. I actually thought it might be a good idea to get some old questions off the list and i i think ashort Slow down, no need for closing them might have been a very very good idea when i started that. Instead, now we have this \huge rage around.
I almost feel paranoid when leaving a short comment leaving a quick hint in fear that it might upset someone.
 
@Johannes_B As I've said, I'd hope that some direct discussion between people might resolve some of these tensions
 
3:11 PM
@JosephWright @percusse ^^^^^ I hope we can figure this out.
@JosephWright Out of interest, do you know how many regular helpers we got on LC? What do you think, how many regular helpers do we have for the three largest sites (TeXwelt, goLaTeX and mrunix)?
 
@Johannes_B Pass
 
@JosephWright Not even a guess?
 
@Johannes_B Six?
 
@JosephWright LC: @stefan and me, with three or four dropping in occasionally. DE: About ten to 15.
 
3:30 PM
@JosephWright I tell ya, getting necessary information for some questions is like pulling teeth :(
 
On -10 rep for the day :-(
@SeanAllred Inexperienced user: these things take a while to understand
 
@JosephWright I can understand that… it's just strange that you wouldn't have any clue what you downloaded. Most people go the other way with it – 'I ran MiKTeX on my document' or 'MiKTeX is crashing'.
 
@SeanAllred No, quite a lot of people only think of their editor as 'LaTeX'
 
@JosephWright Something I'm going to try to clearly address in a video, for sure. There are tons of written resources out there, but I find people are more likely to watch a video than read an article.
 
@SeanAllred Good luck
 
3:41 PM
@JosephWright thanks :) wouldn't be the first time I tried to teach something that seemed obvious to me, but at least this is admittedly not-obvious.
People can rag on teachers all they want, but it takes an extreme depth and breadth of understanding to be able to explain the same thing a thousand ways.
 
Hello guys! I'm currently in the process of developing a lightweight LaTeX editor with remote collaboration support. If anyone feels like trying it out and submitting their opinion, the download link and contact e-mail are under: sebbrudzinski.github.io/Open-LaTeX-Studio :)
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@SebastianBrudzinski How's it distinct from simply using a standard editor and e.g. saving the file in a shared DropBox?
@SebastianBrudzinski Will of course test :-)
 
@JosephWright @SebastianBrudzinski My guess is that there's no local install.
Which apparently quite a few people have issues with :P
 
@SeanAllred Am downloading now :-)
@SeanAllred :-)
 
@JosephWright Well, I'll be. @SebastianBrudzinski Did you make an announcement on /r/LaTeX?
 
3:51 PM
@JosephWright Hans seemed to think my lua programming for Ucharcat wasn't totally incompetent:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle :-)
 
@JosephWright does mean we really should sort out allocators for luafunction 9and catcode tables)
 
@DavidCarlisle I'm not sure what he meant about reimplementing primitives: the expansion steps would all break
@DavidCarlisle Yes
@DavidCarlisle After TL'15 ships and Frank is back, that's the next thing to address
@DavidCarlisle Also probably the Han business
@DavidCarlisle Callbacks are the big thing to tackle
 
@JosephWright yes I wondered about that but they could usefully add \declareprimitive\Ucharcat{... lua like directlua} that allowed you to declare a tex primitve using lua
 
@DavidCarlisle That is true
 
3:53 PM
@JosephWright it's a pain that luatex.sty still loading etex.sty :(
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes
@DavidCarlisle Will take us a while to get all of this sorted
 
@JosephWright at a checkin rate of 2 lines per 15 years, yes...
 
@DavidCarlisle :-)
 
not to mention \mathit in unicode-math
 
@DavidCarlisle That's very tricky
 
3:56 PM
@JosephWright it's very wrong, currently
 
@Johannes_B Me too. But don't overdo it please. Sometimes some users need some firm instructions ;)
 
@DavidCarlisle Indeed, but that one is Will's domain alone (not team code)
 
@percusse I just sat down to eat something. I'll be back in a while. :-)
 
@JosephWright although that's not sustainable long term, supporting unicode engines in the core means we need a core font mechanism that supports unicode fonts
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, I know, but really that does need L3
 
3:59 PM
@JosephWright hmmm
 
@DavidCarlisle Can you really see a way of adding system font support to 2e in the kernel and avoid breaking existing docs?
 
@JosephWright for 2e it might just mean "adopting" fontspec, not sure but the direction started by the support for unicode engines we added this time will lead to pressure to formalise the relationship with fontspec/unicode-math/luatexbase/ in some cases moving code to the kernel, in others just adopting the packages, to be determined....
 
@DavidCarlisle OK, that's slightly different (and perhaps acceptable, although both fontspec and unicode-math require expl3)
 
@SebastianBrudzinski: cool, an editor based on the NB platform. :) I used to use this very same platform for a couple of commercial apps, it looks quite interesting. :) Good luck with the project, seems quite interesting!
 
@JosephWright would be interesting to see how much l3 they really use or perhaps l3 is acceptable for the core packages. Either way we can't claim to support Unicode engines in the core if you can't use any Unicode fonts.
 
4:07 PM
@DavidCarlisle Well fontspec is all written in expl3
@DavidCarlisle Of course, as it is already written that way one can argue it's clearly acceptable to users already (and we are nowadays pretty careful about expl3 changes)
 
@JosephWright I know but unicode-letters.def is generated by expl3 code as well...
 
@DavidCarlisle No it's not
 
@Johannes: my meta post was confusing because I could not express myself properly, so I was worried that I hurted people I like because of the recent discussions on similar topics. That's why I decided to delete my thread.
 
@JosephWright isn't it, ah shame spoiled my argument:-)
 
RIP John Nash. :(
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4:10 PM
@DavidCarlisle ltunicode.dtx all in primitives. What it does need is e-TeX.
 
@JosephWright yes I knew that at one point:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle You are probably thinking of l3unicode-data.dtx
@DavidCarlisle We should probably have a (quick) internal discussion about the LuaTeX support stuff then involve the obvious people who do the low-level Lua support. Most of what we need is likely copy-paste :-)
 
@JosephWright @SeanAllred For now there's not much you cannot do manually. I'm planning to add the ability to enable auto-sync to Dropbox (the app will upload file for you every x time). Moreover, you get the ability to easily view past revisions of a file and restore them with one click. I'm also collecting any ideas for new Dropbox-support features at the moment.
 
@SebastianBrudzinski Personal opinion (as a developer): if the user wants the file in Dropbox, he/she will have the file in Dropbox. Have your software detect if it's in a Dropbox-synced folder and enable functionality from that (i.e. automatically). If it's not in such a folder, use that spot in the UI to offer to move that file (and all related files) to a Dropbox-synced directory.
You get the added benefit of having Dropbox manage Dropbox.
 
@PauloCereda Oh. :(
 
4:25 PM
Poll (that likely doesn't affect anyone but me at the moment ;)): In naming functions, how would you distinguish between a function that executes one action given a parameter and a function that executes any action based on user input?
 
@percusse I'm back, fire away.
 
@SeanAllred I'm lost. :) Do you have an example?
 
@PauloCereda for termmenu, I want to have a convenience macro that displays the menu, gets input, and runs the bound action AND a function that takes input (as a parameter, e.g. #2) and runs that bound action.
@PauloCereda \termmenu_do_all:N vs \termmenu_do_something_specific:Nn
 
@SeanAllred hmmmm
 
@SeanAllred The first case is just..._do:Nn, the second should I guess say what it does
 
4:40 PM
@JosephWright _event:..., perhaps?
 
@JosephWright @PauloCereda Actually, maybe it could just be do: in both cases, just switching based on the number of arguments
 
@SeanAllred Yes
 
@clemens If you have the chance, please have a look at latex-community.org/forum/…. I didn't even know of the existence of the package.
 
@JosephWright @PauloCereda Thanks :)
 
4:57 PM
@SeanAllred But I did nothing! :)
 
@PauloCereda Well, you made me explain what I want, and we all know that's the most important part, especially here :)
 
5:10 PM
Feb 16 at 14:07, by Johannes_B
Sebastian Brudziński announced an Open Source LaTeX editor that supports remote collaboration. Users will be able to store their projects on any, free cloud storage solution (for example Dropbox, Google drive). More information can be found at LaTeX Community and the Github project site.
 
@Johannes_B Talk about being a hipster ;)
 
@SebastianBrudzinski I already made some advertisement in here a while back :-)
@SeanAllred Time flies by :-)
 
@Johannes_B Too fast, sometimes.
 
@SeanAllred Unfortunately, yes. :(
 
@JosephWright yes
 
5:46 PM
Why do you think termmenu wouldn't have been put in tex/generic? It's the place I suggested :( ctan.org/pkg/termmenu
 
@SeanAllred you could mail ctan and query it
 
@DavidCarlisle I have, but it seems the turnaround time for them w/ email is pretty sluggish
 
@SeanAllred termmenu first step for a makebst equiv for biblatex?
 
@Johannes_B Huh?
@Johannes_B Oh!!
@Johannes_B Yes, I can see that! I didn't even think about that :)
It's why I pulled it out into a separate package – the idea of a menu system implemented purely in TeX is a widely applicable concept.
 
@SeanAllred If you get this to work, i'll get you a bunch of cookies.
 
5:56 PM
@Johannes_B XD Well, it won't be me (probably) who implements the tool. I'm focussing on a simple expl3-based debugger – this is where termmenu came from.
Perhaps I'll mention the biblatex business in the documentation, though – give someone some inspiration, perhaps :)
 
@SeanAllred I wonder how complex such a tool would need to be. biblatex is so freakin powerful and customizable, it's almost insane.
 
@Johannes_B That's the great trouble with developing the tool. expl3 will certainly be a boon, but I'm personally confident the tool, if implemented, will be done in a language like Python or Perl.
 
@SeanAllred for a custom-biblatex?
@SeanAllred The default user on Windows doesn't have access to python or perl. @Nicola has done some GUI for glossaries. Dragging and swaping elements around to change the order of them seems to be pretty nifty.
 
@Johannes_B @SeanAllred which is what lead l3build to being implemented in lua...
 
@DavidCarlisle @Johannes_B Ah, since the Lua interpreter is embedded in the TeX engine. If you don't have access to that TeX engine, you probably don't have access to any of them
 
6:08 PM
@SeanAllred Have you taken a look at the question for Franks answer? A mention of the quick-list could be made there and would fit better, imho. For a quick ref see Stafans answer. But what can be done for fine control?
 
@Johannes_B Do you have a link?
 
@SeanAllred We had been talking about this yesterday, the tab was still opened and the issue unresolved, so i brought it up again. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/39017/…
 
@Johannes_B Yes, but what's the 'quick-list'? Is that a list of questions that link out to the 'quick and dirty' answers directly?
 
6:24 PM
@Johannes_B Ah, yes :)
I think something like the following would be good:
> This answer will focus on the greater problem of float placement and the algorithm LaTeX uses to solve it. If you're very new to LaTeX, it may be wise to view [[Stefan's answer to a similar question]], which will likely answer the immediate question you have. When you're comfortable with using LaTeX, it would be wise to come back here and understand why some of these decisions were made and how LaTeX decides where your figure or table goes in the first place.
@Johannes_B ^^^
 
@SeanAllred Nice. I wouldn't call both questions similar, though. The one with Stefans answer is a more specific subset of the other.
 
@Johannes_B Agreed, but you don't want to overload a new user with information. That's part of why Frank's (fantastic) answer is so useless for a newbie with a deadline.
@Johannes_B Any other ideas for what to call it?
 
@SeanAllred That's the sad thing, it really is quite useless without basic knowledge.
@SeanAllred Still would change the original question by Marco: In Keeping tables/figures close to where they are mentioned we learned about ways to keep a float nearby. Where can we finetune?
 
6:50 PM
The demand for LOF and LOT on the same page evolve every once in a while. Highest and to the point answer would be the folowing. Reading Q/A/and comments, the could be some polishing done.
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A: How to show \listoffigures and \listoftables on one page and in the ToC?

Martin ScharrerYou can temporally disable the \clearpage (and/or \cleardoublepage) command which generates the page break at the beginning of the second \listof... command: \listoffigures \begingroup \let\clearpage\relax \listoftables \endgroup You might need to manually adjust the spacing before the second ...

 
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Q: Where is the latex manual?

DovHelpful members of the community just solved my problem with \newcommand: What's wrong with my newcommand? But in trying to solve it, I got an error message referring to p. 192 of "the manual". I would like to look up the error myself. I am compiling under windows using the command: latexmk -...

@DavidCarlisle I'm not where my copy of Leslie's book is: I assume that is the manual we mean :-)
 
7:12 PM
Searching for arrow in the pgfmanual nearly kills my whole machine with a load of nearly 8, where the usual load is around 1. This is more than annoying. Does anybody stay in contact with Till and can suggest the splitting? I know i am not the only one with issues.
 
@JosephWright yes
 
@DavidCarlisle Indeed, managed to check :-)
 
@JosephWright now, what would we do with this one?
 
@Johannes_B ?
 
@JosephWright Link missing, i am an idiot. tex.stackexchange.com/questions/246569
 
7:27 PM
@Johannes_B Hmm, works after an update so 'off topic (caused by an outdated version)'?
@DavidCarlisle Was tempted by a flippant answer of the form 'On your TeX-related bookshelf' :-)
 
@JosephWright Yeah, but this was happening after my proposed solution using langid.
 
@Johannes_B In that case, you get an upvote and we leave alone :-)
 
@JosephWright It is a dupe to tex.stackexchange.com/questions/244313/… which in fact was closed as another dupe using a different method.
 
@Johannes_B Would the solution in the 'master' dupe apply?
 
@JosephWright Yes, it's just a minor difference.
 
7:37 PM
@Johannes_B OK, so close as a dupe?
 
@JosephWright Yep. The master dupe was using obsolete options, i just took care of that.
 
@Johannes_B: the pgfplots manual is even 'worse' It contains form fields ;-)
 
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Q: Should expl3 code be used in packages intended to be compatible with multiple formats?

Paul GesslerMaybe this question is just not a good idea in general, but, I'm curious. This could make package development simpler for some in the future. (Of course, this would not be forced on any package developer, but he/she could choose to use this approach or the traditional approach.) I guess the real ...

I guess I missed this one: better answer it in a bit :-)
 
@ChristianHupfer I like the biblatex manual, or source2e. No graphics.
 
@ChristianHupfer 'Tis certainly fun
@Johannes_B I like source3 ;-)
 
7:41 PM
@JosephWright “It would be nice if pgf was written in expl3, unfortunately it isn't”.
 
@egreg :-)
@egreg They pre-date a workable expl3 by several years
 
@JosephWright: Yes, apparently. My Adobe reader always complains about the form fields, 'fixing it' when opening the pgfplots manual
 
@JosephWright thanks. :-) And now, as of yesterday, there is at least one package that uses it this way, thanks to @SeanAllred. :-)
 
@PaulGessler <3
@PaulGessler Still working on getting it in the right place on CTAN, though.
 
@PaulGessler I'll answer in perhaps half an hour (I'm working at the mo)
 
7:46 PM
@JosephWright no problem, I'm sure I could have just pinged you instead of doing the bounty, but I have to get my 'Promoter' badge somehow. :-)
Now I can say I have a badge that @egreg doesn't... :-)
 
@PaulGessler Good for you!
@PaulGessler I still have to find the button for asking questions.
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@egreg you know we have a help page for that, right? I don't know if you'll ever learn. ;-)
 
@PaulGessler Really? ;-)
 
8:22 PM
I have a rather big macro definition which sets a boolean to true, like \booleantrue (with \newif\ifboolean declared previously of course). Is there any situation (other grouping \booleantrue lower/deeper than the point where I'm evaluating the boolean) where the boolean would still evaluate to false even though I set the boolean to true?
The boolean is false initially
 
8:33 PM
@1010011010 Quite unclear.
 
8:47 PM
@Johannes_B yeah, I remember. Thanks! :)
@SeanAllred Thanks! This is something worth considering.
 
9:01 PM
@SebastianBrudzinski :) (in the future, by the way, you can reply to a specific message using a the arrow in the lower-right corner of the message. that way, i can just jump right to it to remember what i said:-)
 
@SeanAllred Thanks, and test replying...
Worked!
 
@egreg Okay, lets say...
\newif\ifboolean
\newenvironment{myenv}
{%
\booleantrue
\begin{mysecondenv}}
{\end{mysecondenv}}
mysecond env holds a conditional:
\ifboolean
   \doone
\else
  \dotwo
\fi
Which doesn't seem to work... I even use \typeout to show it still evaluates to false... how is that even possible
 
\documentclass{article}
\newif\ifbaz

\newenvironment{bazone}
 {\baztrue\begin{baztwo}}
 {\end{baztwo}}

\newenvironment{baztwo}
 {\ifbaz\message{TRUE}\else\message{FALSE}\fi}
 {}

\begin{document}
\begin{bazone}
OK
\end{bazone}
\end{document}
@1010011010 I get "TRUE” from ^^^^^
 
9:17 PM
Okay, so it should work, hold on
 
9:59 PM
I'll break down my document tomorrow... it's too complex to find the issue right now I'm afraid
 
10:40 PM
@PaulGessler What? @JosephWright isn't credible? :-)
Though I do strongly agree the question hasn't received enough attention.
What's said there may prove to be exceptionally influential in future community development.
 
10:52 PM
Good evening everyone
 
Good evening, @ArthurReutenauer :)
 
Really sorry I missed the discussion about live guillotine broadcast by River Valley this morning, it seemed like fun :-P
Hi @SeanAllred
 
@ArthurReutenauer :-) Guillotine broadcast?
 
Yes, I think that quote was by @egreg, about Kaveh’s election as TUG president. I got @-pinged about something unrelated around that time, so read the chat transcript.
Enrico was referring to Kaveh’s activity as recording TUG conferences, of course.
 
It seems a pretty foreboding phrase :o
 
10:58 PM
If I remember correctly, guillotine executions were made private (= on prison grounds) in France in the 1930s, after the execution of a serial rapist and murderer saw, somehow, many women rushing to the place of execution to dip their handkerchief in the convict’s blood (deemed good fortune for whatever reason).
 
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