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Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
12:47 AM
@egreg :)
@egreg It's the rolling release of Fedora. :)
But Clint is a better option. :)
 
cfr
cfr
12:59 AM
@DavidCarlisle I tried installing cygwin on a networked PC once. It never finished even installing itself. (Theoretically, this is available as a 'ready-to-use' application so you can install it without administrative access.)
@PauloCereda Does that mean Fedora is now at version 23? Damn! That means I have to update from 21....
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@cfr No, Fedora is at version 22. :) F23 will be released in October 27. :)
 
cfr
cfr
@AdamLiter More than me....
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@cfr: I decided to try Rawhide just to see how crazy is to have a bleeding edge distro. :)
 
cfr
cfr
@PauloCereda Much too soon but not as bad as now. Thank you. (This never, ever happens to me on Arch ;).)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@cfr vvv 
[paulo@cambridge ~] $ cat /etc/fedora-release
Fedora release 21 (Twenty One)
You are not alone. :)
cardiff, on the other hand, has F22. :)
 
cfr
cfr
1:03 AM
@PauloCereda And why not? It still gets updates, so is perfectly secure. (Well, as secure as anything.) But people continually try to break into my Fedora machine, so it can't stay at 21 for long once 23 is released :(. And I'll have to update my mother's as well. I wish they'd leave the desktop alone so it 'looked like' normal!
@PauloCereda Arch is supposed to be 'bleeding edge'. Not sure if it really is if you use stable.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@cfr Oh. At least, F22 seems very good. :)
@cfr Indeed. Rawhide says they have stable packages, but that does only mean the package was built correctly, not in terms of being correct in the system infrastructure. :)
 
cfr
cfr
1:26 AM
@PauloCereda My worst distro experience was Ubuntu. It completely wiped my EFI boot loaders and, because the installation failed, didn't even install one of its own. Admittedly, I expected it to do this - indeed, having it do it was my main reason for installing it in the first place. But that's hardly a good reason to create an installation programme which wipes people's boot loaders.
Arch is nice. KDE is sometimes flaky, though. But at least I can figure things out, more-or-less, which is not really true in Fedora. (I have to remember to update grub.cfg each time the kernel is updated as I can't figure out how to fix the automated system which never works.)
 
 
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Enthusiastic Student
Enthusiastic Student
5:08 AM
hi
anybody's online?
Is there any way to create two minipages side by side; starting from the left side of the left margin, ending to the right side of the textwidth?
 
Enthusiastic Student
Enthusiastic Student
5:28 AM
 
 
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David Carlisle
David Carlisle
6:36 AM
@EnthusiasticStudent yes of course, minipages don't have any positioning logic at all, they are just like a big character so it's just like asking if you can have two X side by side
@EnthusiasticStudent but do you want minipages or do you want the main body to be in the main page and the one on the left to be \marginpar ?
 
 
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Enthusiastic Student
Enthusiastic Student
7:38 AM
@DavidCarlisle Actually, I want the header of the first page of my CV to be divided into two equal-sized minipages; on the left one I write my name and on the right one I write my contact info. In the above figure, I do not want to change the margin and main in the down part. I want to top part which is header to be divided...
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
8:02 AM
@EnthusiasticStudent so just \hspace{-\oddsidemargin}\minipage{\oddsidemargin}stuff\end{minipage}\begin{mini‌​page}{\textwidth}more stuff\end{minipage}
 
moose
moose
8:37 AM
Hello everybody :-)
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
@moose Hi
 
moose
moose
I've recently asked a question (tex.stackexchange.com/q/271229/5645) which was probably too specific to be of use for anybody else. I thought I could probably rephrase the question to be more generic (e.g. like this: pastebin.com/6j6TECSU). I think all answers which were given would still fit to the new question, but the new question would allow some more answers.
Now I'm not sure: Should I ask a new question or should I edit my question? Or is it a bad idea and I should just leave it as it is?
@GonzaloMedina and @egreg, you've answered the question. What do you think?
 
egreg
egreg
@moose It would be closed as “too broad”
 
moose
moose
@egreg Why do you think so? Isn't it quite similar to the "How to identify a symbol?" question?
 
Romain Picot
Romain Picot
A little joke heard this morning at work about the rugby world cup:
what's the difference between England and a T-Bag? The T-Bag stay longer in the cup :-p
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egreg
egreg
8:49 AM
@moose That gives a limited set of procedures; for “arbitrary” symbols it's very different.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@moose with reference to your comment on site, that should be obvious!
Jan 2 '13 at 16:46, by David Carlisle
@FaheemMitha The new years resolution is to get a tikz gold badge by answering tikz question with tex primitives, picture mode, or if really pushed pstricks, doing quite well so far this year.
@moose ^^^ (I got silver:-)
 
egreg
egreg
@DavidCarlisle Amateur. :P
 
moose
moose
9:21 AM
I've just used the answer of @GonzaloMedina to answer tex.stackexchange.com/a/271565/5645 - however, I don't know how I can move the base line of this symbol. Can anybody tell me how I can do so?
 
egreg
egreg
@moose If it's a left delimiter, it should be \mathopen, not \mathord.
 
moose
moose
@egreg Thank you! I fixed that.
 
egreg
egreg
\newcommand\LBTSbrak{%
  \mathopen{%
    \mspace{1mu}%
    \text{$\vcenter{\hbox{\lbtsbrak}}$}%
    \mspace{1mu}%
  }%
}
@moose ^^^^
 
moose
moose
9:38 AM
@egreg Thank you.
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
9:56 AM
@ChristianHupfer Traumhaft, echt. golatex.de/…
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
10:10 AM
@cfr That's odd, everutime I get a new kernel, everything is set up automatically.
 
daleif
daleif
Just for the lulz, anyone know what exactly /Library/TeX/texbin points to in MacTeX 2015? Because there is no texbin in /Library/TeX in e.g., MacTeX 2014. I just wanted to clearify this on the El Capitan warning I have on my office door.
 
egreg
egreg
10:39 AM
@daleif /Library/TeX/texbin is a link to /Library/TeX/Distributions/Programs/texbin, which in turn points to /Library/TeX/Distributions/.DefaultTeX/Contents/Programs/texbin, which points to /Library/TeX/Distributions/.DefaultTeX/Contents/Programs/x86_64, which finally points to /usr/local/texlive/2015/bin/x86_64-darwin
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@daleif It's a bit contorted, isn't it? But the .DefaultTeX directory is managed by the TeX Distribution control panel.
 
daleif
daleif
@egreg yeiks, I think I'll just advise them to make sure to install MacTeX 2015 ;-)
 
daleif
daleif
10:56 AM
@egreg, just working with an answer on the site, I wonder in \underbrace{...}_{A} + B, isn't the spacing around the + wrong.
 
egreg
egreg
11:34 AM
@daleif \underbrace makes an Op atom; brace the whole thing.
@daleif There should be a discussion about this on the site.
 
yo'
yo'
11:48 AM
@egreg Can I ask you for your opinion on a typographical problem, please?
 
egreg
egreg
12:10 PM
@yo' Of course you can
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg I set my subsection titles bold; if I happen to use "beta-transformation" there, I tend to write it in words, i.e., not as "$\beta$-transformation (I also do that in higher titles). Do you think it's wrong to spell out a Greek letter in such contexts?
(I just now realize that "lambda-calculus" works the same way and is better knows.)
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' Just do it consistently.
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg so you think it's fine to use "beta-transformation" in titles and "$\beta$-transformation" in the text itself?
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' In the first appearance in text use “beta-transformation ($\beta$-tranformation for short)”.
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg yuck
I mean, it really looks wrong. Everybody knows what "beta" looks like, don't he?
 
egreg
egreg
12:17 PM
@yo' The clause is so that readers will not ask themselves if the two things are different.
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg ah ok, I wouldn't have ever thought someone could think that lambda-calculus is not $\lambda$-calculus.
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' Well, readers can be strange people!
@yo' You write something in your notes and they will read something very different. ;-)
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg indeed. It's just that no one ever reads a thesis :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
12:31 PM
Q: Why do you never see ducks hiding in trees? A: Because they are really good at it.
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yo'
yo'
@PauloCereda I just imagined my polka dot rubber duck hiding behind a tree.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
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Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@yo' oooooh <3
@DavidCarlisle oooooh <3
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@PauloCereda I think you're safe, no one will spot you.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@DavidCarlisle Indeed. :)
@yo' Sorry for jumping into your conversation with @egreg: I try to not mix greek letters with text, but let me check what Barendregt uses. Hold on.
 
barbara beeton
barbara beeton
12:38 PM
@PauloCereda -- our next-door neighbors have a small yellow duck on a swing in the tree in front of their house. we can see it because we know it's there, but i think a lot of people pass by and don't notice.
 
egreg
egreg
@PauloCereda Albeit typeset with TeX, I don't consider that book a model for good typography.
 
yo'
yo'
@barbarabeeton Is it a geocache? :-)
 
barbara beeton
barbara beeton
@yo' -- not as far as i know. hmmm. i'll have to ask.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg Ouch. :)
 
yo'
yo'
@barbarabeeton btw, could kindly I ask you for your opinion on this problem?
27 mins ago, by yo'
@egreg I set my subsection titles bold; if I happen to use "beta-transformation" there, I tend to write it in words, i.e., not as "$\beta$-transformation (I also do that in higher titles). Do you think it's wrong to spell out a Greek letter in such contexts?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
12:40 PM
@yo': $\beta$-transformation, he uses.
@barbarabeeton ooooooh <3
 
yo'
yo'
But then I run into the problem of bold or non-bold math in bold titles :-/
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
 
yo'
yo'
@PauloCereda but that's not in a title...
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@yo' oooooooooooooh it should be in the title?! I am so sorry, I missed it!
 
yo'
yo'
@PauloCereda in-text, it's always directly the Greek letter.
 
barbara beeton
barbara beeton
12:46 PM
@yo' -- ams policy is for math symbols, including greek letters, to remain the original" style/weight in all contexts, so that if a bold symbol is defined in a certain way, it will never be confused with a normal weight symbol of the same shape. however, remember the ams audience: primarily advanced grad students and professional (mostly pure) mathematicians. so if you want all bold, i don't see anything wrong with spelling out "beta-transformation" in a title.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@yo' got it.
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' How much do I dislike := on a scale from 1 to 10?
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg ummm, is "I use it" the correct answer?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg 2? :)
 
yo'
yo'
but if you mean graphically, I think the colon is centered on print
 
egreg
egreg
12:47 PM
@yo' I find it mathematically superfluous and, even worse, graphically awful.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg Yay I got the correct answer!
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg lol, making "graphically awful" more important that "mathematically whatever", you must be a TeXist ;-)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
2 = 0b10. <3
 
yo'
yo'
@PauloCereda 2 = 10.01
 
egreg
egreg
@PauloCereda The scale measure the degree of "dislikeness” and the answer is 10.1
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
12:49 PM
@yo', @egreg: I got pw3nd by math people. :)
 
yo'
yo'
@PauloCereda oh no!
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' In any case, the colon should not touch the equals sign.
@yo' In the page you show, there are two distinct realizations of :=; pay attention!
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg ^^ it does not touch; but as I see now, it's not centred properly.
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' I was just saying it.
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg there are two instances of := and both in the same meaning
 
egreg
egreg
12:54 PM
@yo' Yes, but in the last but one display, the colon is not centered.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@egreg just for you: ≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔≔
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg seems like a hinting/rasterization issue, both are typeset using the same command
@DavidCarlisle so lovely :-)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@yo' but at least I used a proper ≔ character not some spurious mis-aligned := fake,
 
yo'
yo'
and most importantly, it looks correct in print ;-)
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' OK. But think about it: can a reader be misled by a simple = after “we put”?
 
yo'
yo'
12:56 PM
@DavidCarlisle make it available in euler and I'll use it
@egreg but sometimes you're not that explicit in words, and then symbols help. And if you use := somewhere, you have to use it in all places where = has this meaning.
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' That's cured very simply by using = everywhere. ;-)
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg your choice :-)
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' What font are you using? Is it mathpazo or Pagella Math with unicode-math?
This is \coloneqq from mathtools and mathpazo: clearly asymmetric.
This is CM:
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
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egreg
egreg
@PauloCereda \cateq
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
1:08 PM
@egreg <3
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' And finally, U+2254 from Pagella Math:
 
yo'
yo'
1:29 PM
@egreg well, I use Euler ;-)
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' Then the result is very similar to mathpazo: asymmetric. Only the shape of the equals sign changes and the two symbols are too near to each other.
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg Well, as I see it in print, the only problem I have is the colon being too low.
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@RomainPicot @PauloCereda: Apparently, it's International Bad Joke Day, isn't it? ;-)
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' The top of the colon in eulervm is short of the bounding box and this accounts for the asymmetry.
 
Romain Picot
Romain Picot
@ChristianHupfer It's not so bad ;-)
 
yo'
yo'
1:44 PM
@egreg ah, so we can blame the metrics! :-D
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' Yes.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@yo' ze metrics!
 
yo'
yo'
@PauloCereda ze Oyleur metrics :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@yo' oooooh
 
yo'
yo'
(does the fact that everybody misspells my name give me the right to intentionally misspell other people's names? :-) )
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
1:53 PM
@yo' Nope, since Czech names can't be spelled correctly by non - Czechs :D It's a natural law we try to correct the order of letters in Czech names :-P
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@yo' Yes. :)
@ChristianHupfer von Czech!
:)
 
yo'
yo'
@ChristianHupfer fun fact, in Czech (the language) the word non-Czech (as a noun, referring to a person) is spelled Nečech (with capital "n" for "non", but lowercase "č")
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@yo' There are words in Czech with two vowels? Amazing!!!! :D
 
yo'
yo'
@ChristianHupfer Nejneobhospodařovávatelnějšími has 13 vowels ;-)
 
user2692669
user2692669
I used the: \begingroup \let\clearpage\relax \endgroup scheme to let one chapter*{} go with the previous one, but I see the formatting has changed a bit. Is there a way to prevent this?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
1:56 PM
@ChristianHupfer: My old avatar is back in a tribute to you. :)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@yo' That looks like my cat ran over the keyboard :D
 
yo'
yo'
@user2692669 It's a bad idea to make a chapter not start on a new page, in the first place :-)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda Why in tribute to me? What did I do wrong?
 
user2692669
user2692669
@yo' I know but it's the abstract chapter in two different chapters
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@yo' I am afraid to ask the meaning. :)
 
user2692669
user2692669
1:57 PM
(two different languages)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer Nothing, it's the return of the bee duck. :)
 
yo'
yo'
@ChristianHupfer well, if it ran over your keyboard, it would have been Wfewiewüßäöqweqwvve
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' Here it is 
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{mathtools}
\usepackage{eulervm}

\renewcommand{\vcentcolon}{\mathrel{\mathpalette\eulervcentcolon\relax}}
\newcommand{\eulervcentcolon}[2]{%
  \vcenter{%
    \sbox0{$#1:$}\dimen0=.94781\ht0 \ht0=\dimen0 \box0
  }%
}

\begin{document}

$\coloneqq$ $\vcentcolon\joinrel=$

\end{document}
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@yo' Nope, I've US layout activated on my keyboard :-P
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' The \joinrel is for getting the colon to go over the equals sign and better show the symmetry.
 
yo'
yo'
1:58 PM
@user2692669 well ... don't typeset abstract as a chapter? I usually use \section* for it
@egreg thanks
 
user2692669
user2692669
@yo' It's from a template and they are defined in the .cls file :/
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda Hail to the king beeduck
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@yo' Das ist ein Sehrkomplikatedword!
@ChristianHupfer <3
 
yo'
yo'
@user2692669 @Johannes_B ^^ your favourite word :-)
@user2692669 I see ... well ... good luck.
 
user2692669
user2692669
@yo' ^^
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
1:59 PM
@yo' cry havoc! :)
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' Here's the picture in scriptstyle
 
yo'
yo'
@PauloCereda well, don't ask the meaning, it's rather stupid (even worse than "scvrnkls")
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda I recognize fragments of German in that ...
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' I still believe that the colon is too near to the equals sign.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@yo' I googled it and found the corresponding IPA [nɛjnɛ.ɔbɦɔspɔdar̝ɔvaːvatɛlɲɛjʃiː], which makes things even worse. :)
 
yo'
yo'
2:02 PM
@PauloCereda [nɛjnɛ.ɔbɦɔspɔdar̝ɔvaːvatɛlɲɛjʃiːmi] (the last syllable was missing)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@yo' Oh no! :)
 
yo'
yo'
(well, you likely know all the sounds but [r̝])
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda The meaning is: I use emacs in fact and only pretend to be a vim-user @yo'
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer gasp
 
yo'
yo'
@ChristianHupfer Czech is not German :) and it's an adjective
@PauloCereda it was the 1st case sg/pl, what I wrote is the 7th case pl)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
2:05 PM
@yo' I did not translate literally ... I ... used my literature skills (er... yes ;-))
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@yo' Oh my!
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg should there be any difference between euler and eulervm?
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' Apart from the first one having been deprecated 20 years ago?
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg aha!
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' Well, maybe not 20 years. But version 4 of eulervm is from 2005
 
yo'
yo'
2:12 PM
@egreg however, some problems appear. Why are things always incompatible in some bad way?!
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' :)
@yo' If you use an old and deprecated package, who's to blame? ;-)
 
yo'
yo'
I get CM math numerals now, CM mathrm etc.
@egreg well, I switched to eulervm and got into troubles
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' Reading the manual? And discovering that you should call \usepackage[euler-digits]{eulervm}, by chance? ;-)
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg I would come there :-)
but I still get CM mathrm, and if I try to load eulervm after fontspec and \setmainfont, I get an error within amsmath
so in the end, I'll probably load tgpagella first and hope I won't run out of math font alphabets because of this.
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' Uh! That's complicated!
 
yo'
yo'
2:18 PM
@egreg Getting fontspec to work with whatever is complicated :-) (but I don't blame anybody)
so now my font loading is:
 
egreg
egreg
Of course you have \usepackage[no-math]{fontspec}, don't you?
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg No, but it doesn't change anything.
Ok, I see that eulervm neither has large diameters...
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' Try this 
\documentclass{article}
\usepackage[euler-digits]{eulervm}
\usepackage{mathtools}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont{TeX Gyre Pagella}
\DeclareSymbolFont{operators}{\encodingdefault}{\familydefault}{m}{n}

\begin{document}
$a-1+\sin x$
\end{document}
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg I managed using the good old new font selecting scheme :-)
but still, I'm unhappy about the large parentheses and braces :-/ Is is possible to try to use Pagella instead of CM for the missing characters in Euler?
 
egreg
egreg
2:35 PM
@yo' What missing characters?
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg well, eulervm uses some characters from CM, doesn't it? I thought that this is done on the TeX level, but it's obviously hard-coded in the font files
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' Yes, something is taken from CM; that's the v part in the name: virtual fonts.
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg I see, I just wasn't sure how much virtual they are :-)
 
yo'
yo'
2:55 PM
am I the only person worried about 3 packages using the same prefix MT in 2e?
 
egreg
egreg
@yo' Nice!
 
yo'
yo'
@egreg indeed. Well, one of them can be safely ignored (mathastext), but the other two (mathtools, microtype) are present in all my documents :-)
Palatino Sans misses ő :-(
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
3:59 PM
 
yo'
yo'
@ChristianHupfer self-explanatory :)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@yo' Yo!
Oh no, I stole the tick. That wasn't my intention
 
Romain Picot
Romain Picot
@ChristianHupfer Your solution was far better ;-)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@RomainPicot Well, better... perhaps, but I got help by xparse. I never done a command with two ** :D But I knew that \i \b are defined commands already, but I don't know what they are doing actually ;-)
@PauloCereda: ;-) Yes, perhaps...
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer hm?
@ChristianHupfer ah, mail!
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
4:10 PM
@PauloCereda Exactly... It's good that I decided not put Black Forest food into it ;-)
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@PauloCereda I have taken a nice picture today. Just waiting for the permission to publish and i will send it right to you ;-)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer oh no! No delicious Black Forest cookies! Ducks love cookies. :)
@Johannes_B oh boy oh boy
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda Come to this place, there are plenty of them ... well, in the super markets :D
 
Johannes_B
Johannes_B
@PauloCereda <3 :)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda Pantomime Goose pretending to be a duck :-P
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
4:12 PM
@ChristianHupfer Important question: is the Dark Forest dark during the day? :)
@ChristianHupfer Dear King Harkon, I am not dictating. What?
Where's @JosephWright, by the way? :)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda Even darker during the day than during the night.... Night drags its darkness out of Black Forest, that's why it's dark during, well, night ;-)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer ooooooh
 
yo'
yo'
@ChristianHupfer \i is a dotless i, \b is a dot lower accent (or a bar accent, I'm not sure now)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
Since a physicist said it, it must be true.
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda Yes, I never lie ... oh, why is my nose getting longer and longer?
 
Joseph Wright
Joseph Wright
4:14 PM
@PauloCereda Been on a course
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@yo' Thanks.... I've never used them really
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@JosephWright ooh
@ChristianHupfer Number 4: the nose.
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda The one with a tape recorder ?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer No, Raymond Luxury Yacht. :)
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@RomainPicot: specially for you ;-)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
4:17 PM
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda Ah, Throatwabbler mangrove
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer This:
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@PauloCereda Sorry, confused them... It's the same tie :D and nose :D
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@ChristianHupfer LOL
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
Oh my, two questions/comments as non-answers by the same user, posted for the same question:
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A: Converting ConTeXt document to HTML

somenxavierI recommend you pdf2htmlEX conversor.

 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
5:01 PM
Recently this so easy to get this green rep palindromes etc.
 
egreg
egreg
@ChristianHupfer I need 108 bronze badges to get a palindrome again.
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
@egreg I need only 3 bronze badges to get an palindrome :D and with 5 badges it's again one
@egreg You could ask a question ;-)
 
egreg
egreg
@ChristianHupfer You have too few! :P
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
5:17 PM
@egreg Why? 99 is a palindrome (somewhat) and 101 is another one... Citing @DavidCarlisle: Go and make yourself useful by upvoting (my) answers ;-)
 
egreg
egreg
5:42 PM
@ChristianHupfer I do most of the times. ;-)
@ChristianHupfer And @PauloCereda can confirm I'm an avid voter.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg Yes! I am even afraid you already passed me. :)
 
egreg
egreg
@PauloCereda How can one look at the vote number?
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg HOLY COW YOU ARE CLOSE!
I better start voting again!
:)
 
egreg
egreg
@PauloCereda You once computed the total votes across the network, IIRC.
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg Ah I had to go community by community. :(
 
egreg
egreg
5:52 PM
@PauloCereda One vote in the month?????
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg :( I got afraid since so many serial upvoting reversals I put you guys into. :(
 
egreg
egreg
@PauloCereda Well, don't be silly! :)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg ooh
<3
 
yo'
yo'
6:16 PM
@ChristianHupfer actually, why the extra space?!
 
barbara beeton
barbara beeton
7:13 PM
aha! finally, a palindrome!
user image
4
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@barbarabeeton yaaaaay
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
7:32 PM
@yo' Sorry, I can't follow you
 
yo'
yo'
@ChristianHupfer You use \, after the macro as italic correction, I don't understand why
 
Christian Hupfer
Christian Hupfer
7:57 PM
@yo' Oh, that's a typo rather by me, because I changed the sentence and introduced the ,. I will change the solution -- it wasn't meant as italic correction at all. Thanks!
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
8:49 PM
@barbarabeeton ^^^^^^^^
 
barbara beeton
barbara beeton
@DavidCarlisle -- yeah, my chance of reaching that level in the foreseeable future is less than epsilon. my chance of achieving a status palindrome is nearly as unlikely because the units of accumulation don't add up right. c'est la vie.
 
egreg
egreg
@barbarabeeton "Let $\varepsilon=1000$”
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@barbarabeeton ah misread your numbers:-)
 
barbara beeton
barbara beeton
@DavidCarlisle -- figured you must have. (and i don't gather rep as fast as you do. i actually have to work, and don't have a good net connection from home.)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@barbarabeeton actually I've not had rep cap most days for some weeks (and Gonzalo passed me again, need people to ask some proper picture mode questions instead of all this tikz nonsense)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
9:01 PM
@DavidCarlisle You could throw more duck pictures in your answers. :)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@barbarabeeton we're attempting again to get a fib[re|er] connection to the village to get a reasonable connection here. I doubt it'll happen any time soon.
 
Torbjørn T.
Torbjørn T.
@DavidCarlisle You missed a chance with the confusion matrix question the other day. Specifically asked for not TikZ.
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@TorbjørnT. don't think I saw that:-)
 
barbara beeton
barbara beeton
@DavidCarlisle pobrecito. (and i'm about to vanish for the day. there's a lecture on bodoni starting in less than an hour at the library special collections department -- home of daniel berkeley updike's archives.)
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
%\usepackage{multirow} % please! ;-)
 
Torbjørn T.
Torbjørn T.
9:02 PM
 
Paulo Cereda
Paulo Cereda
@egreg ^^
:)
@barbarabeeton ooh a Spanish word! :)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@TorbjørnT. ah picture mode to the rescue! (obviously you get a vote:-)
 
barbara beeton
barbara beeton
@DavidCarlisle -- well, even the connection you do have is probably better than the fact that at the moment, my laptop refuses to recognize a good connection. gotta get help for that.
@PauloCereda -- yes, one of the few i know that's repeatable in polite company.
 
Enthusiastic Student
Enthusiastic Student
9:48 PM
@DavidCarlisle Thank you. Should I add something to permeable to have this code work?
\hspace{-\oddsidemargin}\minipage{\oddsidemargin}stuff\end{minipage}\begin{mini‌‌​​page}{\textwidth}more stuff\end{minipage}
 
Kurt
Kurt
Please have alook to this question:
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Q: Converting latex margin notes to rtf/doc/odt margin notes

HuubI am looking for any way to convert the margin notes I made in LaTeX (through \marginpar or the todonotes package, or anything similar) to show up as margin notes in a .doc or .rtf. Are there any packages that will be recognized by a converter like latex2rtf? Is this even possible?

marginpar todonotes
Is pandoc working here? I do not know it. The op has not been login long time. Answerable or better closing?
 
egreg
egreg
10:03 PM
@Kurt Too broad
@PauloCereda No more votes for the day. ;-)
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@EnthusiasticStudent no but you need to put that wherever you want the boxes to appear of course, also in practice you may want to make the boxes smaller and have space between, or perhaps not, it depends on your real use case
 
Kurt
Kurt
@egreg okay, thanks.
 
Enthusiastic Student
Enthusiastic Student
@DavidCarlisle I put it in the start of my document but I receive error
:(
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@EnthusiasticStudent where? you can not typeset anything in the preamble
 
Kurt
Kurt
@egreg I have some close votes available. If you tell me I can vote.
 
Enthusiastic Student
Enthusiastic Student
10:08 PM
LaTeX Error: \begin{document} ended by \end{minipage}.

See the LaTeX manual or LaTeX Companion for explanation.
Type H <return> for immediate help.
...

l.124 ...nipage{\oddsidemargin}stuff\end{minipage}
\begin{mini‌‌​​pag...
Package geometry Warning: Over-specification in `h'-direction. `width' (597.50787pt) is ignored.
Package geometry Warning: Over-specification in `v'-direction. `height' (845.04684pt) is ignored.
Package Fancyhdr Warning: \fancyheadoffset's `E' option without twoside option is useless on input line 70.
:24573809
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
LaTeX Error: \begin{document} ended by \end{minipage}. means you had a typo somewhere anything that happens after that is nonsense, you may need to hide the width of the boxes, but they are just warnings not errors
 
Enthusiastic Student
Enthusiastic Student
@DavidCarlisle got it
but one more question
How should I define the size of minipages to be half of the page width
not the text width
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@EnthusiasticStudent .5\textwidth
 
Enthusiastic Student
Enthusiastic Student
I mean, all widths of the margins and mains together
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@EnthusiasticStudent .5\pagewidth
 
Enthusiastic Student
Enthusiastic Student
10:14 PM
@DavidCarlisle \pagewidth value does not work for me...
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@EnthusiasticStudent you are doing something wrong then. Make an example and post it as a question
 
Enthusiastic Student
Enthusiastic Student
@DavidCarlisle ok thanks...
@DavidCarlisle I solved the error... thank you... I have never used minipages before
 
David Carlisle
David Carlisle
@EnthusiasticStudent same thing as as a parbox, or tabular p column
 
Enthusiastic Student
Enthusiastic Student
@DavidCarlisle I have only used tabular before...
 

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