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12:37 AM

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12:51 AM

Things were quite dangerous in USP these days. Lots of riots in the gates, the protesters were confronting the police, a lot of bombs, tear gas and stuff. They made barriers in a lot of entrances and assaulting students who were trying to enter.

Paulo Cereda

1:28 AM

hichris123

Am I allowed to ask about MathJax here, or will I be laughed at? ;)

Nevermind, got it myself.

cfr

2:08 AM

@hichris123 You laughed at yourself or you asked yourself about MathJax?

hichris123

2:19 AM

@cfr ... let's go with both. ;)

Christian Hupfer

3:52 AM

Good MAEN ;-)

Torbjørn T.

7:02 AM

@tohecz Weird Icelandic singer.

Johannes_B

@ChristianHupfer Almost 6! Moving day?

Joseph Wright

7:21 AM

@TorbjørnT. That's the one

Johannes_B

@JosephWright Thoughts? @latex-community.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=85285#p85285

Joseph Wright

@Johannes_B I think your reply is about right: with no clue as to what the OP is doing, it's guesswork

Johannes_B

@JosephWright Thanks, i added another advice just now.

@JosephWright I wonder what the OP means by too deeply tutorials.

Christian Hupfer

7:41 AM

@Johannes_B: No, I could not sleep

@Johannes_B: I just read latex-communist.org.forum ;-)

David Carlisle

7:58 AM

@hichris123 see tex.stackexchange.com/tags/mathjax/info

@PauloCereda do you read every cricket site now to find these things?

Johannes_B

10:01 AM

@DavidCarlisle I think @PauloCereda heard bobby Cliff too often.

Paulo Cereda

10:32 AM

@DavidCarlisle I have now this moral obligation of understading cricket. :)

@David: I found it because I am now addicted to QI, then I heard Stephen Fry narrated those cricket thingies. :)

Yay, Doctor Who is back!

cgnieder

@PauloCereda :)

Paulo Cereda

@cgnieder There's no bloody way I can finish all my projects now. :)

cgnieder

@PauloCereda lol. I know what you mean!

this makes my eyes hurt only by thinking about it: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/197664/…

Paulo Cereda

10:48 AM

@cgnieder I remember my friends and I once wrote a script that detects documents with a high level of ink usage, so we "invert the colours" before sending the job to the printer. :P

cgnieder

11:01 AM

@PauloCereda :) Were the documents still readable?

Paulo Cereda

@cgnieder Yep. :)

Christian Hupfer

12:09 PM

I am off, see you later

Paulo Cereda

1:30 PM

> Saying thank you is more than good manners. It is good spirituality. – Alfred Painter.

:)

Henri Menke

Hello everybody.

Can someone tell me what the expansion of \romannumeral-`} is?

cgnieder

@HenriMenke I'd say: nothing. It looks like a way to smuggle an unbalanced brace...

@PauloCereda :)

Henri Menke

@cgnieder Why not {\ifnum0=`} then? It's shorter.

cgnieder

@HenriMenke I don't know. I've never seen the first version for this anywhere... But since it expands to nothing (\edef\foo{foo\romannumeral-}foo}\show\foo`)...

Johannes_B

1:49 PM

@cgnieder concerning the important thingies -> golatex.de/viewtopic,p,63424.html#63424

cgnieder

2:01 PM

@Johannes_B »mir hat's nix gebracht« – that's quite a helpful response, isn't it ;)

Johannes_B

@cgnieder Jep.

Henri Menke

@Johannes_B @cgnieder Is anyone of you attending the DANTE-Meeting in Karlsruhe?

Johannes_B

@HenriMenke No, sorry.

@HenriMenke maybe next year.

cgnieder

@HenriMenke maybe part of it. It's my nephew's first day of school that day and I promised my brother to come...

Henri Menke

@cgnieder I will also only be there for the actual meeting on saturday.

cgnieder

2:12 PM

@HenriMenke if I come then rather late in the afternoon. (Einschulung is on Saturdays apparently...)

Joseph Wright

3:58 PM

@DavidCarlisle Did you see that Morten really does seem to be back? We have to get him to register here :-)

Henri Menke

Bump: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/197712/…

Sorry, question deleted. The solution was obvious: \usefonttheme{professionalfonts}.

Paul Gessler

4:20 PM

OK, I must be being dense or something. How do I obtain/install the l3prop package (TL2014 Full)? I'm trying to test out pkgloader but it tells me File `l3prop.sty' not found.

Joseph Wright

@PaulGessler Something is doing something daft

@PaulGessler You don't load the various expl3 modules separately, and we recently merged the 'kernel' modules into a single file

@PaulGessler Log?

Paul Gessler

@JosephWright uno momento por favor

@JosephWright pastebin.com/SXeyFReB

My first serious venture into expl3 and I've already broken things... :D

Joseph Wright

@PaulGessler Yup: pkgloader does something daft and tries to load a single expl3 module separately

\RequirePackage{l3prop}: oops

Temporary hack: \expandafter\def\csname ver@l3prop.sty\endcsname{} before loading pkgloader

Paul Gessler

@JosephWright ok so pkgloader needs an update after this recent expl3 merging event?

Joseph Wright

@PaulGessler Well yes, but that line was wrong for a long time

Paul Gessler

4:26 PM

@JosephWright that will work for now, thanks!

Joseph Wright

@PaulGessler We've not allowed loading kernel modules separately for many years

cgnieder

@JosephWright pkgloader is much younger: tex.stackexchange.com/q/123174

Joseph Wright

@cgnieder Yes, I know

@cgnieder Merge was also announced on LaTeX-L

Paul Gessler

@JosephWright thanks for your help. I got an error cascade; it appears pkgloader also tries to load modules l3candidates, l3clist.sty, l3msg.sty, and l3prg.sty separately. Maybe I will wait until this is patched up. No hurry, it was just going to be an updated answer to an old question on the site.

Should I report this to Michiel or is this already known?

Joseph Wright

@PaulGessler New one on me, so I'd report it

@PaulGessler He's got a load of incorrect load lines in lt3graph

egreg

7:22 PM

Hi! Nice Sunday tour in the mountains behind Nice. :)

Joseph Wright

@egreg Cool

@egreg I'm thinking about allocation routines :-)

egreg

@JosephWright I'm not. ;-)

Joseph Wright

@egreg Good plan

@egreg Also have Proms on

egreg

@JosephWright What are they playing?

Joseph Wright

@egreg Berlioz Symphonie Fantastique

egreg

7:25 PM

@JosephWright I don't think I'll connect. ;-)

Joseph Wright

7:46 PM

@DavidCarlisle Doing anything exciting for the long weekend?

Christian Hupfer

Good MAEN ;-)

Joseph Wright

@ChristianHupfer Yo!

David Carlisle

@JosephWright got on a bike for first time in um 20 years probably:-) (pedal variety not motor)

Joseph Wright

@DavidCarlisle Cool

David Carlisle

@JosephWright M got a new bike and can't keep up on foot any more:-)

Joseph Wright

8:00 PM

@DavidCarlisle :-)

Christian Hupfer

@JosephWright ;-)

tohecz

@egreg you're in France?

Christian Hupfer

8:15 PM

@JosephWright: Mod hammer? ;-)

Joseph Wright

@ChristianHupfer Indeed

Christian Hupfer

@JosephWright Very fast indeed ;-)

@PauloCereda: Good evening ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@Christian: hello from temperantia (my iPad). :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Pah!!!!!

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@PauloCereda: For all believers in the i - something ;-)

egreg

@tohecz Just a tour. From here to Nice it's just 240km.

tohecz

8:23 PM

@egreg ah ok, I wasn't sure, but I thought htat this is a possibility :)

egreg

@DavidCarlisle Not my kind of bike. ;-)

@tohecz Have you ever heard of “col de Turini”? It's a famous road used in the Montecarlo Rally. Very tough.

tohecz

@egreg no, I have not

Paulo Cereda

@Christian: personally, I don't badmouth Apple. They have a lot of annoyances, but I am happy with their machinery. My workflow is basically Mac and Linux machines, with my faithful bash prompt open all the time.

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: ;-) I was just poking you :D

@JosephWright: Is this approval justified? tex.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/50261 It's too much in my point of view

egreg

@tohecz A 1200 m climb. Quite steep.

Paulo Cereda

8:28 PM

@Christian: I know. :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Sorry about yesterday, I had no occasion to come back to my daily drug dosage of TeX.SX ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@David: to the tune of bicycle race from Queen. :)

Joseph Wright

@ChristianHupfer Mainly a picture?

Christian Hupfer

@JosephWright: I think, an editor should not add a screen shot to some other user's answer, he could ask him/her to do so... well, one can dispute about pro and con, as always ;-)

Joseph Wright

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Q: When is (and isn't) it acceptable to edit?

Update: Sort of ironically, this question has been left unedited for a while, even when there seemed to be some consensus in the answers below of the kinds of edits that are acceptable and those that are not. So I'll do my best to update it with what seems to have been the consensus in the end. A...

cgnieder

8:33 PM

@ChristianHupfer the changes to the code are a bit strange but ...

Joseph Wright

@ChristianHupfer Adding screenshots is on the 'allowed' list (doesn't alter the meaning, adds value, ...)

Christian Hupfer

@JosephWright: Accepted, after reading that post ...

Joseph Wright

@ChristianHupfer I'd have used a cropped image, mind

Christian Hupfer

@JosephWright: Yes, the quality is poor... nevertheless, although allowed, I would personally apply such changes to answers, but rather leaving a comment, asking for improvement

Joseph Wright

@ChristianHupfer Remember the whole wiki-like business in the SE model: one of the points is that people other than the original author can edit-to-improve

Christian Hupfer

8:47 PM

@JosephWright: Yes, I know (by now even extended), users can but do not have too edit-to-improve (of course I am not implying the possibly of editing-to-get-even-worse ;-) )

By the way... where is Werner? Seen him not for days on chat ...

Christian Hupfer

9:05 PM

I am off ... have a nice time

tohecz

10:43 PM

Evening! :)

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