TeX, LaTeX and Friends - 2014-10-02 (page 1 of 2)

Sean Allred

12:03 AM

@egreg I didn't understand a word of that, but I've also learned that some things don't need words.

David Carlisle

12:19 AM

@PauloCereda one for you: tex.stackexchange.com/questions/204136/…

Paulo Cereda

@DavidCarlisle He could write in English. :)

@DavidCarlisle: Commented. :)

Paulo Cereda

1:35 AM

@egreg: could you recommend me a good monospaced font? I'm trying to typeset the arara logo, but I don't know why, everything gets terribly wrong. :(

Paulo Cereda

1:51 AM

Happy birthday, @Herbert! :)

Sean Allred

@PauloCereda Trying to make a new look?

Paul Gessler

@PauloCereda one of my favorites when I can use anti-aliasing: levien.com/type/myfonts/inconsolata.html

2

(bottom line just for fun, do you see the two birds? :-) )

Sean Allred

2:15 AM

@PaulGessler That's actually super neat—I wonder if you can find a font where it is even more pronounced

Paul Gessler

@SeanAllred it's quite possible there is one. Unfortunately the birds look more like toucans than parrots... :-)

And sadly I don't think it would be suitable as a logotype because the word becomes much too hard to read. :(

Sean Allred

@PaulGessler Yeah, as I'm looking at it now, pronouncing the bird aspect would distract too much

LaRiFaRi

8:13 AM

\documentclass[convert]{standalone}
\usepackage{fontspec}
\setmainfont{OxygenMono-Regular.otf}
\begin{document}
    	\huge\%\,a\kern-.08em r\kern-.08em a\kern-.08em r\kern-.08em a
\end{document}`

tohecz

8:26 AM

@PaulGessler I see @Paulo's fav shape there: a heart ;)

Paulo Cereda

9:49 AM

@SeanAllred Actually no, I just wanted the ASCII logo to appear correct in the documentation. :)

@PaulGessler ooh there are two birds! :)

@tohecz <3

tohecz

@PauloCereda :)

@PauloCereda there're three of them: two crows and an arara :)

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz nevernore :P

Oh that's a raven. :)

Andrea L.

10:06 AM

@PaulGessler The minutely kerned logo is just marvelous

Paulo Cereda

10:17 AM

I was expecting all glyphs to have the same width, but when I try

  __ _ _ __ __ _ _ __ __ _
 / _` | '__/ _` | '__/ _` |
| (_| | | | (_| | | | (_| |
 \__,_|_|  \__,_|_|  \__,_|

inside a listings or a verbatim environment, everything gets terribly wrong. :P

@Manuel I strive for typographic excellence — David Carlisle 21 hours ago

Andrea L.

@PauloCereda Maybe basewidth={.5em,0.5em} would come in handy. As it shows for me:

Paulo Cereda

@AndreaL. OMG!

How did you do this? Do tell, please please please pretty please with sugar on top. :)

Andrea L.

@PauloCereda Hehehe, ;) I'm currently formatting the lstlisting options that I'm using, hang a liitle on...

\lstset{%
	numbers=left,
	flexiblecolumns=true,
	numberstyle=\scriptsize\color{gray}\sffamily,
	stepnumber=1,
	numbersep=8pt,
	backgroundcolor=\color{Lgray},
	keywordstyle=\color{blue},
	commentstyle=\color{gray}\itshape,
	stringstyle=\color{mauve},
    showspaces=false,
	showstringspaces=false,
	showtabs=false,
	rulecolor=\color{gray},
	frame=single,
	basewidth={.5em,0.5em},
	tabsize=2,
	captionpos=b,
	breaklines=true,
	breakatwhitespace=false,
	preset={\abovedisplayskip1pt},%
}

percusse

@PauloCereda Are we doing arara jokes again?

Paulo Cereda

@percusse Yes please. :)

percusse

10:28 AM

OK no problem

Paulo Cereda

@AndreaL. Thank you! <3

@percusse OMG

percusse

<insert lady gaga joke here>

Andrea L.

@PauloCereda You're welcome ;)

Paulo Cereda

@percusse The sad part is, I'm reading the table to the tune of Bad romance.

percusse

@PauloCereda That's the intention. Subliminal poisoning

Paulo Cereda

10:29 AM

@percusse I wub you sir.

Andrea L.

@percusse Mendeleev is screaming :)

percusse

@AndreaL. Nevermind him. He is so 1900s

Paulo Cereda

!!/answer Lady Gaga songs

Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

music works | with | composer | Lady Gaga  (musician, etc.)
Again Again  |  Alejandro  |  Americano  |  Applause  |  Bad Kids  |  Bad Romance  |  Beautiful, Dirty, Rich  |  Black Jesus dagger Amen Fashion  |  Bloody Mary  |  Born This Way  |  Boys Boys Boys  |  Brown Eyes  |  Dance in the Dark  |  Disco Heaven  |  Do What U Want  |  Eh, Eh (Nothing Else I Can Say)  |  Electric Chapel  |  Fashion of His Love  |  Government Hooker  |  Gypsy  |  ...   (total: 45)

Andrea L.

3

Paulo Cereda

@AndreaL. LOL

percusse

10:34 AM

@PauloCereda myfonts.com/search/tag%3Amonospace/fonts

Paulo Cereda

@percusse Freebies! :)

Christian Hupfer

Good maen

percusse

Some of them are really blindingly ugly

@PauloCereda It's for inspiration.

Then we can TikZ dem letterz

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer 'allo! Wie geht's?

@percusse ooh

Andrea L.

@percusse The example phrases shown are... uhm... characteristic (as example FF OCR-F®'s one)

Christian Hupfer

10:36 AM

@PauloCereda: You're omitting the h letters again :-P How are you?

percusse

@AndreaL. You can type your custom text above. Type arara and click fit to width

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer I never make mistaeks. :)

Andrea L.

@percusse ooh Got It, my bad I've misunderstood ;)

Paulo Cereda

!!/answer tell me a joke

Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

Tell me a joke.
Q: What's purple, commutes, and is worshipped by a limited number of people?  A: A finitely-venerated Abelian grape.
(according to what passes for mathematical humor (my favorite sub-genre), drawn from several sources but primarily from P. Renteln and A. Dundes in their paper "Sampling of Mathematical Folk Humor" in Notices of the American Mathematical Society, vol. 52, pp. 24-34, 2005)

percusse

that sucked out my life energy

Paulo Cereda

10:39 AM

@percusse Emergency vodka, sir. :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Bad taste jokes :D

Paulo Cereda

!!/answer tell me a joke

Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

Tell me a joke.
Q: What is the volume of a pizza of thickness a and radius z?  A: pi z z a.
(according to what passes for mathematical humor (my favorite sub-genre), drawn from several sources but primarily from P. Renteln and A. Dundes in their paper "Sampling of Mathematical Folk Humor" in Notices of the American Mathematical Society, vol. 52, pp. 24-34, 2005)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: I know that pizza one

Paulo Cereda

!!/eightball Do you only know bas jokes, Psmith?

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: are we there yet?

Stupid bot.

Andrea L.

!!/answer Can you tell me π backwards?

Christian Hupfer

10:41 AM

@PauloCereda: Another one: The cosine function parties in its house. The sine function knocks at the door and asks, whether it's invited too. The cosine function answers: Only if you can integrate yourself ;-)

Paulo Cereda

Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

pi
3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971693993751058...
pi is a transcendental number
[3; 7, 15, 1, 292, 1, 1, 1, 2, 1, 3, 1, 14, 2, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 1, 84, 2, 1, 1, 15, ...]
pi = 180 °
pi = -i log(-1)
pi = cos^(-1)(-1)
pi = 4 sum_(k=0)^infinity (-1)^k/(2 k+1)
pi = -2+2 sum_(k=1)^infinity 2^k/(binomial(2 k, k))
pi = sum_(k=0)^infinity (50 k-6)/(2^k binomial(3 k, k))
pi = 2 integral_0^infinity 1/(t^2+1) dt
pi = 4 integral_0^1 sqrt(1-t^2) dt
pi = 2 integral_0^infinity (sin(t))/t dt

@ChristianHupfer o.O

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Another bad math joke (it works best in German): What's the most popular movie for mathematicians?

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer Dunno. :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: The silence of the Lemma(s) ;-)

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer o.O

LOL

!!/translate from en to de lemma

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: Lemma

Wow.

!!/translate from en to de I like ducks.

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: Ich mag Enten.

percusse

10:48 AM

!!/answer Scopperloit

Paulo Cereda

Psmith, the TeX bot, in fixed font mode:

Query was not understood, no results available.

percusse

Hahaha, pwned mr-know-it-all.

Paulo Cereda

:P

percusse

Wolfram Shmolfram

Paulo Cereda

!!/eightball Do you like Stephen Wolfram?

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ

percusse

10:50 AM

Nope not gonna click that....

Andrea L.

@PauloCereda Ooh you... I clicked that

Paulo Cereda

@percusse You chose wisely. :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: A final one... two mathematicians go to bar, arguing: "No one outside of university knows math!" -- "I don't think so!" The first one goes to the lavatory, the second one says to the waitress:

@PauloCereda: "If you are asked what is the integral of x^2dx you will say 1/3 x^3" ... The waitress is confused but nodes.

@PauloCereda: The first one returns and the second one asks the waitress about the integral, she answers as requested. The first mathematician: "Amazing!!!!". The waitress shakes the head and adds: "+C"

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer ooh a constant!

@AndreaL. <3

!!/eightball Am I funny?

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: most likely.

awwww

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: "Das Schweiger der Lämmer" sounds like "Das Schweigen der Lemma" (Silence of the lemma) ;-)

Paulo Cereda

10:53 AM

@ChristianHupfer :)

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: The great-8-ball does not tell the truth

Andrea L.

@PauloCereda Oh, I almost forgot, if you want to see the coloured version of the arara symbol, it's here

Paulo Cereda

@AndreaL. LOL

Got me. :)

percusse

@AndreaL. Paulo rickrolled me so much so that I can smell it :)

Andrea L.

@PauloCereda Yay! ;)

Paulo Cereda

10:54 AM

I think Germans are protected against rickrolling because of GEMA.

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: I don't know, I did not try

Paulo Cereda

!!/eightball Should Christian try? :)

@PauloCereda Psmith, the TeX bot: The great 8-ball says: no way.

o.O

Kasper

Have you ever seen some style that makes theorems look like this ?

I especially am interseted in something that can make
\begin{thm}[Rational Zeros Theorem]....\end{theorem}
look like that

Christian Hupfer

@PauloCereda: Till later

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer Aye aye captain! :)

Christian Hupfer

10:57 AM

@PauloCereda: Mr. Worf, engage! :D

percusse

@Kasper Looks like standard theorem from amsthm

tohecz

@Kasper there's a way how to tweak amsthm to do that

percusse

@Kasper Shameless plug

8

A: Non italic text in theorems, definitions, examples

The amsthm package has the option to define the custom theorem environment from scratch as stated in the manual (I am copying for the convenience) \newtheoremstyle{note}% <name> {3pt}% <Space above> {3pt}% <Space below> {}% <Body font> {}% <Indent amount> {\itshape}% <Theorem head font> {:}% <Pu...

Kasper

@tohecz This is what I've managed now: sharelatex.com/github/repos/kasperpeulen/Ross-Theorem-Style/…

@percusse but that is for the text after the theorem right ? I don't want the text after theorem to be upshape, I want to make a custom theorem, that replaces the "Theorem" text in boldface, but still has a number

percusse

@Kasper A MWE only adressing the naming

\documentclass{article}
\usepackage{amsthm}
\newtheoremstyle{mystyle}%                % Name
  {}%                                     % Space above
  {}%                                     % Space below
  {\itshape}%                                     % Body font
  {}%                                     % Indent amount
  {\bfseries}%                            % Theorem head font
  {.}%                                    % Punctuation after theorem head
  { }%                                    % Space after theorem head, ' ', or \newline

tohecz

11:07 AM

@Kasper and this is what you want I think:

\documentclass{article}

\usepackage{amsthm}

\newtheoremstyle{mythm}% <name>
{3pt}% <Space above>
{3pt}% <Space below>
{}% <Body font>
{}% <Indent amount>
{\bfseries}% <Theorem head font>
{.\newline}% <Punctuation after theorem head>
{.5em}% <Space after theorem headi>
{}% <Theorem head spec (can be left empty, meaning `normal')>

\theoremstyle{mythm}
\newtheorem{theorem}{Theorem}

\begin{document}

\begin{theorem}[My least famous theorem]
Blabla.
\end{theorem}

\begin{theorem}
More blabla.
\end{theorem}

percusse

@Kasper Oops doesn't work with empty note. Hang on

tohecz

@Kasper ah I lost there are two strange things, not only one!

Kasper

@percusse One note, I also use \swapnumbers already for normal theorems

percusse

@Kasper Yes, it will take some time, I'm at work. But you can cook up whatever you want with the last argument

I'll check later .

See you for now

Kasper

@percusse ah okay, will see what I can do with your code, thanks for your time!

Kasper

11:34 AM

@percusse headspec doesn't seem to work when I use \swapnumbers

Kasper

11:52 AM

I think I've got it !

{\def\temp{#3}\ifx\temp\empty\thmnumber{#2 }\thmname{#1}\else\thmnumber{#2}\thmnote{ #3}\fi}

barznjy

hi, I have the above problem

how I can fix it

LaRiFaRi

12:11 PM

@barznjy click ok or continue in order to install

barznjy

@LaRiFaRi that is the problem, it looks like it doesn't install, everytime I receive the same error

LaRiFaRi

MiKTeX?

barznjy

TexMaker

LaRiFaRi

no, your distribution

MiKTeX or TexLive?

barznjy

MikTeX

LaRiFaRi

12:14 PM

Btw. Subfigure is not the newest stuff. Do you really need it? tex.stackexchange.com/q/144782

barznjy

Yes, please. I need it. How I can get it?

LaRiFaRi

start-programms-Miktex 2.9 - Maintenance - PackageManager

does that path or similar exist?

D:\MiKTeX\miktex\bin\mpm.exe or similar, if it doesn't

barznjy

I have only two folders in this directory
D:\TeX\MiKTeX\
texmf and texmf-local

LaRiFaRi

the start menu path does not exist? are you on XP or 7?

barznjy

7

LaRiFaRi

12:21 PM

ok, then hit the windows key and type "package manager". There should appear a blue symbol "Package Manager" and maybe a second one "Package Manager (Admin)". Please click on the first one

barznjy

OK

LaRiFaRi

Found it? Great. In the top area under "Name:" type "sibfigure" and hit Enter

Right click on the package from 2005-05-04 and click "install"

barznjy

subfigure
OK, I have that

percusse

@barznjy If you have installed MikTeX for yourself but not for All users

Then right click your editor and run it as an administrator

Then MikTeX will comply

and install the package

Stupid windoze

It's a common user access nonsense

Or right click to package manager and run it as admin

barznjy

LaRiFaRi

12:25 PM

you have to update to 2.9

percusse

Ooooh... Join us in the 21st century with 2.9 :P

Paulo Cereda

@percusse :)

barznjy

hhhhhh, I am not the admin on this computer

LaRiFaRi

I would recommend to unsinstall everything related to MiKTEX (not TeXmaker) and install 2.9 for all users but as user-mode, not admin-mode

percusse

@barznjy Then tough luck. You can try MikTeX portable or install it to your user folder if access available

LaRiFaRi

12:27 PM

See here, if you get the possibility to install something: tex.stackexchange.com/a/67713

barznjy

@percusse could you please tell me the download link of the full (complete) MikTeX portable ?

percusse

@barznjy You can follow the instructions on miktex.org/portable

LaRiFaRi

for now, you can try to put the sty file in your project folder. Next to main.tex ctan.org/tex-archive/obsolete/macros/latex/contrib/subfigure

barznjy

for 64 bit please

LaRiFaRi

download the .dtx there, and run pdflatex subfigure.dtx. This will compile that package and create the missing sty

barznjy

12:28 PM

windows 7 64 bit

LaRiFaRi

@barznjy tex.stackexchange.com/q/2063 is good explained

percusse

@barznjy Oh now I realized. Why do you need subfigure?

Don't use it anyway if it is your document

barznjy

@percusse why? what is the other option?

LaRiFaRi

subcaption

@barznjy Which documentclass do you use?

barznjy

IEEE

LaRiFaRi

12:37 PM

Well, then you have the right person here in chat :-). See percusse's answer tex.stackexchange.com/a/113494

I am off. Good luck to you!

percusse

@Kasper Ah cool.

barznjy

Thanks for everyone

percusse

@barznjy The regular IEEEtran template doesn't need subfigure. Do you want to use it?

barznjy

Yes

percusse

Long story short, subfigure is deprecated and replaced by subfig but that is also not maintened since 2005 if i remember correctly. So subcaption is a very nice alternative.

barznjy

12:40 PM

Ok, I will change this.

percusse

It is built on top of caption package. And IEEE complains about it when used but nevermind that.

In the linked answer, I've tamed it to look like the original IEEE caption.

And published with it on IEEE CST.

Also keep in mind that they will not use your TeX file for publishing. A copy editor will convert everything to their internal stuff. And you will be asked to annotate on the resulting PDF. You won't be doing anything related to TeX after the acceptance.

Hence, if it looks OK it is enough. That's why you can use that link.

barznjy

I understand. actually, I got very good information today

many thanks to all

percusse

@barznjy Godspeed! :)

Will Hunting

1:57 PM

Still cannot decide between using pgf and pstricks after so many years, lol. I want to stick to one and not use the other at all, lol.

By the way, if pdftex, xetex and luatex engines are so good, can't we just combine all of them into one big engine? =)

Johannes_B

@WillHunting XeTeX and LuaTeX are some kind of extensions to pdfTeX (including eTex) with different features. XeTeX can process PStricks natively, the others can't. But XeTeX isn't so good using microtypographic features. LuaTeX has some xml and database features. To be honest, i can't be really helpful in this matter.

Will Hunting

@Johannes_B Oh, any info is good for me. I consider myself a beginner. =)

Sean Allred

@WillHunting The issue arises from the distributed nature of open source development. XeTeX and LuaTeX are two different projects started at two different times with two different goals.

While XeTeX wanted to ease the use of fonts, LuaTeX wanted to ease TeX programming and thus open it to a much wider range of applications

@WillHunting Also, go with TikZ/PGF :) I have a feeling postscript as a technology isn't going to last much longer (relatively speaking)

But that's a mostly baseless hunch

Will Hunting

@SeanAllred Ah, is there any reason behind this feeling?

Herbert Voss is only 18 as it says so on his profile, lol.

Paulo Cereda

@SeanAllred Don't take it for granted. :) PostScript is an awesome language. Every time I need to talk about reverse Polish notation and stack operations, no better language comes to mind. :)

Will Hunting

2:12 PM

It's time someone invent another language to combine both pstricks and pgf. =)

Paulo Cereda

@WillHunting You don't need to, PostScript is Turing complete. :)

Will Hunting

I think if all Linux distros combine into one, it might overtake Windows. =)

Paulo Cereda

:P

@WillHunting Speaking of which, Fedora 21 is in Alpha. :)

Will Hunting

I cancelled my amazon orders. I am now still thinking which LaTeX book to get.

@PauloCereda Ah, yes, but I have decided to stick to Debian Ubuntu Mint!

Paulo Cereda

@WillHunting Traitor. :)

Will Hunting

2:15 PM

Either Gratzer, Kopka, Kottwitz or van Dongen.

@PauloCereda GNOME shell does not work on my desktop. =(

Johannes_B

@WillHunting There are distros for every possible application in mind. Some distros for office work, some come with scientific software, some are meant for multimedia stuff. But all of them rely on some Linux Kernel.

Paulo Cereda

@WillHunting And Mittelbach. :)

@WillHunting Ouch.

Will Hunting

@PauloCereda No, that is not in my list. =)

Paulo Cereda

@WillHunting Poor Frank. :) @DavidCarlisle might get sad, since he gets royalties from the book as well. :P

Will Hunting

It's really hard to choose, because different books cover different things.

Herbert does not come to this chat. I would like to chat with him.

Johannes_B

2:19 PM

@ChristianHupfer I never checked thebibliography :-) You got my +1.

@WillHunting There is also »LaTeX for complete novices« by Nicola Talbot.

Paulo Cereda

@WillHunting Sometimes he comes here. :)

@Johannes_B ooh that's pure gold!

Will Hunting

@PauloCereda Does he have a general LaTeX book? I don't think so...

Paulo Cereda

@WillHunting Oh I dunno.

Will Hunting

@Johannes_B Ah, OK, though that sounds too elementary. =)

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: Ah, you are too blame :D Thanks

Johannes_B

2:21 PM

The \@startsection[...] command is the mother of all the user level sectioning commands. »source2e«

Christian Hupfer

@Johannes_B: It was so good to answer a question again, after days of TeX abstinence ... I am well again... TeX cured me :D

@WillHunting: I already told you: Kopka wrote TeX books before TeX was invented. That's how his books look like :D

@PauloCereda: Who does come here sometimes? David????

Paulo Cereda

@ChristianHupfer Herbert. :)

Sean Allred

@PauloCereda A point for Postsript, then :)

@WillHunting I think if all Linux distros combined into one, the entire project would fail.

Will Hunting

I read that the PSTricks book contains many typos which is not a good thing. =(

Christian Hupfer

@WillHunting: You can download the PSTricks book examples anyway from CTAN ... they work out of the box, but of course, I did not tested every one of them

Will Hunting

2:29 PM

@ChristianHupfer Yup, and of course we can also read the manuals. =)

I miss the user xport. I wonder what she is doing now...

tohecz

@SeanAllred sure, but it's not our fault, it's Debain's one :D

Paulo Cereda

@tohecz LOL exactly. :)

Sean Allred

@tohecz XD

David Carlisle

3:31 PM

@ChristianHupfer ?

Christian Hupfer

4:07 PM

@DavidCarlisle: Nevermind :D

LaRiFaRi

4:26 PM

@tohecz I believe the OP wants to have... Just kidding.

I even deleted microtype from my MWE as I thought it too much for nothing...

tohecz

@LaRiFaRi which OP?

LaRiFaRi

The unclear one...

The et Al 3 one

tohecz

@LaRiFaRi ah this one. I missed it is your answer, sorry!

LaRiFaRi

@tohecz yes, I "answered" that... I think that makes me a Rep-prostitute...

8 more votes and I've got my 5-digits count.... yeah.

Couldn't celebrate the upcoming 3.10. better

tohecz

@LaRiFaRi anything special about that date?

LaRiFaRi

4:45 PM

@tohecz national holiday in Germany.

but well, actually I do not care, as I won't get a holiday in Switzerland due to my ancestry

Christian Hupfer

@tohecz: "Holiday for German Reunification" ;-)

LaRiFaRi

oh, I could not even get my 10000 today, if I tried. 200 Rep limit... Well, than I am off :-)

Have a nice evening all of you.

and a nice holyday, Christian and other possible Germans.

Christian Hupfer

@LaRiFaRi: I am a Black Forestrian in first order, then a Baden-Württemberger and in the longe range, at the final end a German :P

LaRiFaRi

@ChristianHupfer I know I should feel sorry for you. But as you had Schwarzwälderkirschtorte all your childhood, I don't

Christian Hupfer

@LaRiFaRi: :D You can't offend me :-P I am happy here and in a few weeks even more!

LaRiFaRi

4:57 PM

Does the word "Black Forestrian" really exist? Cool

Yeah, I should be carefull with what I am saying... (Ausländer rein, Rheinländer raus...) well, I allready left the country :-)

Christian Hupfer

@LaRiFaRi: Ask egreg -- he knows any language :D

@LaRiFaRi: Your fault :-P

LaRiFaRi

Ok, no I really go. Long trip to cologne right now. Ciao

now

Christian Hupfer

@LaRiFaRi: Bye!

egreg

5:10 PM

@ChristianHupfer Any language, except for German. ;-)

Johannes_B

5:24 PM

@ChristianHupfer We have news on the yellow fruit front.

Or in other wrds, we have bananews.

tohecz

5:44 PM

@ChristianHupfer ah ok :)

Paulo Cereda

Ahhhh, I went to the Ubuntu's Software Center and downloaded 'texlive-lang-portuguese' and now it works! Thanks, very much!!! — Luís Muniz 3 hours ago

Cased closed, another happy customer. :)

What should we do? Close as duplicated/too localized, or should I write a proper answer?

Sean Allred

@PauloCereda I would write a proper answer, personally

There seem to be enough people who refuse to use the vanilla distribution

Paulo Cereda

@SeanAllred I have no strong feelings one way or the other. :)

@SeanAllred I wouldn't say refuse. :) Maybe they are TeX bypassers or not computer savvy. :)

Sean Allred

@PauloCereda I suppose I am too harsh, then :/

I legitimately keep forgetting there are graphical package managers XD

Paulo Cereda

@SeanAllred Once we go vanilla, there's no turning back. :)

Sean Allred

5:49 PM

@PauloCereda Oh of course.

:)

Paulo Cereda

@SeanAllred Same here. :) It's almost a disaster when my dad asks for help in his Windows PC.

Sean Allred

@PauloCereda Ha! Yeah, my mother and I have just agreed that she won't ask me for help anymore. It always ends up in a pretty heated argument :(

Well, not so much an 'argument' as a mutual frustration

percusse

Did I just see that egreg asked a question? He seemed obsessed with the silvers so he asked in the wrong colored version of the site but still it's legit :)

Sean Allred

Two very different ways of using computers

Paulo Cereda

@SeanAllred Ouch I know the feeling.

@percusse WHAT

Sean Allred

5:51 PM

@percusse impossible

clearly there is a mistake

a glitch in the matrix

percusse

emphasis on the wrong colored version of the site

Sean Allred

@percusse my statement stands

Paulo Cereda

@percusse TL;DR

:)

percusse

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Q: Bug in answerer's identity picture

I know, I have too many badges, but since I'm aiming at 1000+ silver badges, the way the number of badges is shown in answers (for questions I can't tell) is annoying: As it stands, it shows 1611 bronze badges less than I actually have. ;-) Just for comparison, here's the appearance for a wel...

Paulo Cereda

Actually TB;DR -- too bold, didn't read :)

@percusse Ah yes. :)

Can't wait until egreg breaks the int128 barrier. :)

Sean Allred

5:53 PM

Poor guy

@PaulGessler Still haven't found the button to click on. — egreg 2 days ago

percusse

@SeanAllred Install Linux on parents computers. It's amazing and too difficult to actually do something terrible.

Sean Allred

He must have so many TeX questions just waiting to be asked

percusse

They are happy with their browsers now.

Sean Allred

@percusse Both of my parents refuse to do any financial work on something that isn't Windows.

Seems backwards to me, though.

@percusse Actually, neither of them spend any time on the internet :P

Weird and refreshing at the same time

percusse

@SeanAllred Buy Mac for them

Also fine.

but exponentially expensive

which is still linux

Paulo Cereda

5:55 PM

@percusse I'd say this would be the best option. At least for my dad's.

Sean Allred

@percusse Actually yeah, I did that for my mother and she loves it, but my dad swears Apple put him out of business years ago and he's still holding an old man's grudge

He sold software for a long while -- before I was born -- and he sold them as integrated systems with the hardware

Paulo Cereda

@percusse Before retiring, my dad once had to log in into a server (there was no IT personel nearby). The guy on the phone said, login: root, password: <whatever>. My dad said, login incorrect, what do I do?. Then the IT guy on the phone found out my dad was writing Ruth instead of root. Stupid woman, whoever she is. :P

percusse

@SeanAllred He might be right

@PauloCereda Write the password under the Cup holder

Sean Allred

@PauloCereda hehehehehee

@percusse That's how it goes sometimes...

Unfortunate -- really unfortunate -- but it happens

Paulo Cereda

@percusse :)

@SeanAllred Indeed. I hate when people laugh about my insanely lenghty passwords. :)

percusse

6:00 PM

Actually, my father managed to delete the recycle bin in Win98.

It took me half a day to sort it out

He took the icon on the desktop and dragged it into the recycle bin in a windows explorer.

And windoze being amazing it is, bite the bait

Sean Allred

@percusse classic!

Paulo Cereda

@percusse holy cow

1

Q: Lyx 2.x: Document Class Not Available - Mac OS X 10.10 Yosemite PB 3

I'm running the latest Mac OS X 10.10 Yosemite beta, and I ran into a problem installing MacTeX (2014) and LyX (2.1.2). Upon successful installation of both, LyX would launch with an error: "Document Class Not Available", and only the LyX document classes would show up under Document > Settings >...

errors lyx document-classes mac

Wait a tick, Yosemite reached Gold Master two days ago and this guy already reporting stuff?

percusse

Of course, I made up an excuse and formatted it. Because I don't even know where to start

Sean Allred

After my grandmother died, we actually got a hold of her old computer and were trying to look through it for documents, etc. Wouldn't boot. Had to mount the disk and it turns out she had deleted system32, presumably to save space.

Paulo Cereda

:)

Sean Allred

6:03 PM

@PauloCereda I ain't even mad. That's amazing.

Paulo Cereda

@SeanAllred Oh my. It reminds of my dad when he used to copy file shortcuts to floppy disks instead of the actual files. :)

Sean Allred

@PauloCereda ooooooo..... :)

It's just all so depressing haha

Paulo Cereda

@SeanAllred Look at this amazing floppy! You can copy thousands of files!

Sean Allred

I wonder if computer literacy will ever catch up to actual literacy. (And for that matter, if actual literacy will ever be something we're proud of...)

@PauloCereda Haaaahahahahhaha XD I would've said the same!

(gotta run, be back in a bit)

percusse

@SeanAllred We call it OCR :P

Paulo Cereda

6:07 PM

@SeanAllred True story: now my dad "learned his lesson", but a couple of years ago, # of floppies was his unit of data measurement. Look dad, 2MB!, said I. Oh how many floppies does that mean? :)

@SeanAllred See ya! :)

Paulo Cereda

7:04 PM

@cgnieder: We found him! github.com/oberdiek :)

3

egreg

7:30 PM

@PauloCereda The first OzTeX distribution was ten 800K floppies.

Paulo Cereda

@egreg ooh cool! :) Low density floppies, I believe. :)

egreg

@PauloCereda There was just one density! They were twosided disks; with a trick they were formatted to contain 800K instead of the 720K available on DOS.

Paulo Cereda

@egreg Oh my!

egreg

And now Xerxes will sing ”Ombra mai fu”. Handel is great!

Paulo Cereda

@egreg oooh!

egreg

7:34 PM

@PauloCereda Do you know the piece? It's well known as “Handel's largo” and played everywhere.

Paulo Cereda

@egreg I know! I just remember the end, soave più. :)

tohecz

8:09 PM

Hello, does anybody know how can a user with his account created 48 minutes ago have no recent reputation changes and 11 points? Ah it corrected now, everything's ok (well, the answer is not, but that's another story)

Usman Rauf

11

math-mode numbering typography

LaRiFaRi

@SeanAllred sorry, I don't get the "cron"

egreg

8:44 PM

@tohecz A bad answer about nth. :(

Paulo Cereda

9:06 PM

Just found this in my backups:

\documentclass{standalone}
\usepackage{tikz}
\begin{document}
\definecolor{cffff00}{RGB}{255,255,0}
\definecolor{cffffff}{RGB}{255,255,255}
\begin{tikzpicture}[y=0.80pt,x=0.80pt,yscale=-1, inner sep=0pt, outer sep=0pt]
  \path[draw=black,fill=cffff00,line join=miter,line cap=butt,line width=0.800pt]
    (192.9285,271.9663) .. controls (241.0873,290.4948) and (246.3087,301.3266) ..
    (257.7206,313.8838) .. controls (282.9482,307.5568) and (306.2175,295.3549) ..
    (340.5776,316.4254) .. controls (396.9938,295.2871) and (418.4259,307.1468) ..

2

:)

Johannes_B

9:48 PM

@cgnieder I have seen a blog post about tasks, can you add it? I think it might be useful. vvvvvvvvvv

0

Q: Double backslash \\ does not work in equation environment

My problem is that inside equation environment double backslash \\ does not seem to work as expected to force a line break: \begin{equation*} \fontsize{12}{15} \text{1. (a) State the Mean Value Theorem.}\\ \fontsize{12}{15}\text{(b) Consider the function} g:\mathbb{...

math-mode equations line-breaking

tohecz

@egreg that's what I was referring to by "the answer is not" ...

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