TeX, LaTeX and Friends

5:58 PM

Back from a long tour. :)

Upper central Italy

1 hour later…

7:18 PM

Catching up on the mod chat: sounds like 'English Language Learners' is a bit of a scary place

@JosephWright Hi! Well, AFAInoticed, both en.se and ell.se are scary :-/

@tohecz Yes, English Language & Usage also sounds 'interesting'

@JosephWright isn't that the site with c. 80% close-rate?

@tohecz I know they have a 100% answer rate

@JosephWright with the philosophy "question with no answer in 24 hours is a bad question"?

7:29 PM

@tohecz I don't know, I'm not a regular there.

@JosephWright We could easily have 100% answer rate: just delete all unanswered questions.

@egreg Yes, but that doesn't make sense for us. Perhaps on the English site it does.

@JosephWright They close also legitimate questions.

@egreg Perhaps: each community makes its own rules

@egreg yep, I'm convinced they do. Especially questions asking for exaples of very specific language phenomena are being closed as TL

7:37 PM

@tohecz Well not any more: no TL :-)

@JosephWright yeah I know, but I haven't been much active since around the changes appeared, so I'm yet not familiar with the system

1 hour later…

9:03 PM

interesting: “LaTeX Warning: You have requested package active_unicode', but the package provides active_unicode'.”

@canaaerus Bizarre; can you show the \ProvidesPackage line?

@canaaerus probably the catcode of _ got changed

@egreg it just does an ifx test, so it is catcode sensitive

@DavidCarlisle The syntax package changes the catcode of _

@egreg changing that and using it in a file name seems brave:-)

@DavidCarlisle I've never heard about active_unicode

9:19 PM

its my own package

@egreg me neither, just saw @canaaerus comment above

the guess about _ was correct ^^

@canaaerus sometimes my guesses are correct

@canaaerus Activate characters \AtBeginDocument

ah, that sounds great @egreg

9:22 PM

Hi guys!

@tohecz Ciao!

I need some help on improving the DOI line in this:

I need an upvote for going palindrome ;-)

@egreg btw, I just got home from a conference where couple talks actually were aboue palindromes :)

@egreg: wonderful, the warning is gone, have a good night

9:25 PM

@tohecz add $\langle$ and $\rangle$ around "article page number"

Alan Munn

@egreg Palindromized.

@AlanMunn Thanks!

@egreg nice :) the number is even rich!

@tohecz Maybe also "Each article is equipped with a DOI: doi..."

@egreg that's the 2nd problem on that line

9:29 PM

@egreg I was getting palindromes but then someone downvoted me (for no reason given) off a 1-6 cycle to a 4-9 one, so I need 300k to get a first digit 4... @AlanMunn can I have 30k upvotes?

@egreg What about this:

@tohecz Better, but either each word capitalized or none: Digital Object Identifier or digital object identifier. I'd prefer the latter.

@egreg I'll let this one to the language editor :) I've actually seen all three variants, AFAIremember even on the official web

Maybe "Each article is assigned a digital object identifier"

@tohecz Our journals just put the DOI on each article (first page), with no explanation

9:36 PM

@egreg yeah, that sounds better. Still, I think that it'll be corrected by the other guy

@JosephWright we agreed that doi needn't be at every article in the print version, and they are in the online one. It's similar with the full citation and with the copyright, for instance.

@tohecz Fair enough, but I find it handy that they are on the first page (so if I've got that I can find the full article using the DOI or journal/volume/page)

@JosephWright yep, we had a discussion about this with the editor-in-charge and this is the agreement. In the end, we do not even send off-prints (it's an open-access journal so why) and the hard-copy version is not the priority

@tohecz Of course this is the editors decision :-)

@JosephWright yep. and another problem is that the first page of the online version of the articles is modified so that all the important stuff fits there. Without this modification, I have no place to put the DOI in