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12:05 AM
Does anyone know what's being asked here?
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Q: How to use citation in a figure

lukmacGoal: Use \cit{...} e.g. in a circle or box, etc., when drawing a figure. And then include this figure and compile it with pdflatex. With Xfig, we can do similar things with math mode, but how to do it with cite? Is there another tool supporting cite in bibtex style? (Please note: This questi...

 
@Werner Not really.
 
@egreg Through comments is seems contradictory.
 
@Werner By the way, \cite is robust (at least if not redefined by classes or packages)
 
@egreg I see.
 
!!/texdef -t latex cite
 
12:08 AM
@egreg: You're hanging around for an early start to the new reputation cap? ;)
 
@Werner Just waiting a bit before going to bed.
 
!!/battle
@PSmith is asleep...
 
@Werner 260 to 215; I won. :)
\cite:
macro:->\protect \cite

\cite :
\long macro:->\@ifnextchar [{\@tempswatrue \@citex }{\@tempswafalse \@citex []}
 
@egreg Ahh, I see (again).
@egreg David will "soon" overtake me on the leader board; pushing me out of prime contention.
 
@Werner If I use \xshowcmd*{\cite} (with regexpatch) I get
*************************************************
* xpatch message
* `\cite' is a control word defined with \DeclareRobustCommand
*************************************************
> \cite =\long macro:
->\@ifnextchar [{\@tempswatrue \@citex }{\@tempswafalse \@citex []}.
Good night
 
12:14 AM
@egreg Until another day...
...good night.
 
 
5 hours later…
5:25 AM
@egreg I prefer the second approach ;-)
 
 
2 hours later…
7:49 AM
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Q: Adding picture to a CWEB document

LlavesThe CWEB docs make no mention of how to include pictures. The tools I'm familiar with for including or generating graphics are designed for use in LaTeX, but CWEB outputs plain TeX. Pointers to examples of making this work would be appreciated, especially using EPS figures.

What is OP looking for ? ^^
 
@texenthusiast I guess plain TeX graphics inclusion plus how you write that into CWEB
The thing being that graphics in plain is not so much fun, so most people recommend miniltx plus graphics anyway :-)
 
@JosephWright Ok are there any CWEB users these days ? and which docs is OP referring to by Knuth right ?
 
hi
what is the code for a disjoint union ( the set theoretic one, it looks like a bigcup with a point in the mid). I tried Detexify but my drawing skills failed
 
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Q: Mathematical symbol for disjoint set union

jonnyIn our lecture script, we use the notion of disjoint set union. It uses a special symbol to differentiate the disjoint from the usual set union, where we add an extra dot inside of the \cup symbol. Is there something like a \bigudot? Or any other way to add a centered dot to any symbol?

 
8:12 AM
@TorbjørnT. thanks :)
 
8:44 AM
@AndrewStacey Did you see the hobby question?
 
9:01 AM
@TorbjørnT. Just answered. Moral of the story: the one piece of code that you think "This will be a real pain to maintain so I'll just quietly drop it." is the one piece that everyone's been using.
 
@AndrewStacey Seen and upvoted.
 
@AndrewStacey welcome to my world
 
@DavidCarlisle Some way to go yet before hobby becomes the monolith that longtable is! But a glimpse, certainly.
@DavidCarlisle Oh, by the way. My point was that scope is quite a common environment to have inside a tikzpicture so your answer "works as expected" in quite a few examples.
 
9:24 AM
@AndrewStacey yes I know:-) I should probably look for any other local definition that \begin{tikzpicture} makes and test for that instead but that would involve knowing something about tikz.
@AndrewStacey Possibly a better example is here.sty for [H] which I deleted got deleted from ctan and removed forever until years later I had a pleading from Karl Berry to re-instate it as he was getting flak from users that it was gone from texlive..
 
@DavidCarlisle You could add a hook in to the tikzpicture environment that started a longtable as well (with a single cell so it was apparent to the user) and then test for that.
 
 
2 hours later…
11:27 AM
@egreg: Today we will have the best game in the confederations cup. :)
 
11:38 AM
@egreg: there's an amusing fact about the last Brazil vs. Uruguay played in the Mineirão before yesterday's match: Brazil won 3:0, and the whole team was actually the whole squad of Palmeiras. Since the game was scheduled in a hurry, they decided to call the best team in that year to represent the national team. It was the first team in the Brazilian history to have its whole staff as part of the national team. :)
 
Hey guys, sorry for the noob question, but in JabRef I'm getting an error when importing a database (that was exported from Endnote). I'm getting a `Error in line 36744: Expected = but received ,`. Yet, when I look into that line, I see no wrong `,`:

`@article{
author = {Beard, D. A.},
title = {A biophysical model of the mitochondrial respiratory system and oxidative phosphorylation (vol 1, art. no. e36, 2005)},
journal = {Plos Computational Biology},
volume = {2},
number = {1},
pages = {56-57},
Very please? :)
 
@Sosi Maybe the error is somewhere else, and the symptom propagated until that line?
 
@PauloCereda ugh... :| I wonder how I can find the problem then... This has like 14k references... :(
ok, thanks!
 
@Sosi Look at the previous entry, it's not that far, I guess.
 
@PauloCereda this will take me a while to debug i guess.. :(
But Obrigado ;)
@PauloCereda indeed, even when I delete that reference, I still get that error. ugh....
 
11:57 AM
@Sosi binary chop is your friend. 14k is only 2^{14}
@Sosi why so many entries in a single file? You can pass many smaller files to any given document.
 
@DavidCarlisle well, I was trying to import the whole references that I have in endnote
@DavidCarlisle (thank you, because of you I just learnt binary chop! :) yeah, I know I should know this, but since I'm a biochemist... ugh)
in any case, I won't be able to import everything. this is giving me this error still before the "B" authors. If it goes on like this, I will pass the rest of my life looking for these errors to import everything... ugh
 
@PauloCereda I'm a bit worried. ;-)
 
12:14 PM
The closing text on tex.stackexchange.com/q/120349/15925 is not very helpful. Do we have ways of improving it?
It just says off topic and points to general help center. But more detailed reasons were given during the closing process.
 
12:39 PM
@AndrewSwann The 'new' system adds the close reasons as comments
@AndrewSwann I was meaning to ask a meta question about the text: feel free to beat me to it!
@AndrewSwann I think I'd have gone for 'unclear', to be honest
@Sosi No key given
Should be something like @article{Beard2006, author = ...
 
@JosephWright I have added a comment for my reason for voting to close. Is the automatic one the one in Percusse's first comment?
 
@AndrewSwann I think so
@AndrewSwann I've added a comment saying I feel 'unclear' would make sense
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Q: Text for 'off-topic' closure

Joseph WrightCurrently, closing as off-topic adds a notice reading This question does not appear to be about TeX, LaTeX or related typesetting systems, within the scope defined in the help center. below the question. The 'new' approach to closing means that 'off-topic' is intended to be used for cases w...

@AndrewSwann Does this help?
 
@DavidCarlisle I'm minded to delete my comment on your "if-inside-tikzpicture" answer since it is no longer relevant, whereupon your reply to it maybe should also go. What do you think?
 
12:57 PM
@JosephWright Yes. This is a useful discussion.
 
@AndrewStacey yes OK
 
1:15 PM
@egreg Italy will win, mark my words. :)
 
1:43 PM
Does expl3 have modulo support? :)
 
@PauloCereda \int_mod:nn?
 
@JosephWright ooh! :)
 
1:57 PM
@PauloCereda is Psmith at home?
 
@DavidCarlisle I can call him. :)
 
!!/tennis
 
@JosephWright: since I don't need the default branch in \int_case:nnn, can I use only \int_case:nn?
 
@AndrewStacey yes best to stick to tennis or cricket, you wouldn't want to embarrass @egreg by trying !!/battle
 
@PauloCereda We have no \int_case:nn, at least at present (perhaps we should: fits with TF approach)
 
2:07 PM
@DavidCarlisle I'm not embarrassed at all:
!!/battle
 
@egreg Psmith not playing
 
@DavidCarlisle Well, I'm satisfied with the current 230.
 
2:20 PM
I need suggestions: what's the best way to parse a date? :)
 
@PauloCereda you mean a date in iso format, or a natural language date?
 
@DavidCarlisle ISO. :)
 
@PauloCereda that makes it easier:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle ooh! :)
 
@PauloCereda Like 2013-06-27?
 
2:25 PM
@egreg Yep. :)
 
@PauloCereda speadsheets etc (and cron) seem to let you say " a week next tuesday" and have it mean something,,,
 
@egreg: I wrote an expl3 answer for the day of the year question, I'm polishing the code. :)
Currently, this is my interface: \dayoftheyear{27}{6}{2013}.
 
@PauloCereda Sounds reasonable, although I guess I'd go for ISO order
@PauloCereda I do hope you have a code-level interface, with this just the xparse wrapper
We are working on CSS-for-LaTeX at the moment: exciting times :-)
 
@JosephWright oh. :)
 
@PauloCereda If you know it's 2013-06-27 not 20130627 or 2013-06-27T24:00 or ... then you can just use the general list split stuff splitting on -
 
2:30 PM
@PauloCereda You can imagine that different people might want a different interface, but the code level \weekday_find:nnn should be able to cover that
@DavidCarlisle Like I said, xparse :-)
 
@JosephWright yes but you need to tie the user down first iso 8601allows all kinds of strange variants.
 
@JosephWright Don't expect too much for my code, after all I'm far away from the mittelbachwrightleflochgregoriorobertsoncarlisle constellation. :)
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I'll post my code.
 
@DavidCarlisle True: what I was getting at is that a code-level interface should be clear (separate day, month, year args), while at the document level it's different
 
@JosephWright that's the L3 motto:-)
 
@JosephWright, @egreg, @DavidCarlisle:
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A: Day of the year

Paulo CeredaMy attempt with the powerful expl3. I know the interface is not good at all, but please bear with me, I'm stupid a newbie. :) \documentclass{article} \usepackage{expl3} \usepackage{xparse} \ExplSyntaxOn \DeclareDocumentCommand \dayoftheyear { m m m } { \bool_new:N \leap_year_bool \bool_se...

Wrong link. :)
Ouch, there's a bug in my code! I have to add the increment if it's a leap year AND if the month is > 2. Someone care to fix it? :)
 
2:44 PM
@PauloCereda No idea how. I've got another bug for you though, I think: Try adding two \dayoftheyear commands.
 
@TorbjørnT. Uh-oh. :) I found the fix, but let me try to find out what happens.
@TorbjørnT.: thanks, I moved the variables outside the command, so they are only created once. :)
 
@PauloCereda Yep, works fine now.
 
@JosephWright (Re: what's in detexify) I hadn't checked detexify. That was a "what have you tried?" kind of comment.
 
3:13 PM
@PauloCereda Competing answer: “Look, ma! No assignment!”
 
@egreg Oh my God.
That was amazing! :)
I'll upvote ASAP.
 
@JosephWright Should I move my answer from the other off-topic thread? I was trying to address that problem specifically. (Obviously it can be improved.)
 
@AlanMunn Answers welcome: entirely up to you how you do it!
 
3:30 PM
@JosephWright Ok. I've added a revised version.
 
Hi there
 
@tohecz Ciao!
 
Long time no see right?
and apologize for any typos, the French layout drives me crazy
 
@tohecz Hi Tom! How are you? :)
 
@PauloCereda I'm ok, just I have almost no internet
at leaset I sleep a bit more:D
 
3:40 PM
@tohecz Are you in Paris?
 
@egreg in Grenoble
 
@tohecz Nice mountains!
 
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Q: Text for 'off-topic' closure

Joseph WrightCurrently, closing as off-topic adds a notice reading This question does not appear to be about TeX, LaTeX or related typesetting systems, within the scope defined in the help center. below the question. The 'new' approach to closing means that 'off-topic' is intended to be used for cases w...

Thoughts welcome
 
@egreg yeah, we went up to Dent de Crolles last Saturday, it was good, just a bit cloudy so ze didn't really see to the valley
 
@MartinScharrer, @StefanKottwitz Do we want to remove the two 'off-topic' reasons that are mentioned in Andrew Swann's answer to the above? They really are covered by 'unclear'.
 
3:43 PM
people were surprised that I wore sandals to a hike:D
 
@tohecz Sandals to go on hike on a 2000m high mountain?
 
@egreg yes, I wore them to Brisen in Switzerland (2500m) too
since I was 16, I haven't really worn anything else much
anyways, I gotta go, there's a student Bible Study today wchich I wanna attend
 
kan
4:22 PM
Anyone willing to help me learn some mathematics written in German?
 
4:34 PM
Do we have a question a question about installing TeX Live? See this comment:
@MarcoDaniel I installed the 2013 version of tex live. it is now in the same folder as the 2008 version. when I run my code in texshop it still uses the 2008 version. how can I change the path that is being used? — jelle 4 hours ago
 
@MarcoDaniel The real issue is probably that the person didn't install the MacTeX version of TeXLive (or their TeXShop preferences predate the time when /usr/texbin/ was the standard directory for the binaries.
 
@DavidCarlisle Back to equation numbering ... I can get the equation number as the last column of an mtable. What I can't figure out is the CSS required to make that float to the side of the viewport. It seems to flat ignore float: right; (Firebug reports that as not getting through, even if I put !important). But even so, its parent is a table in the middle of the screen so if it floated to the right of that then that's still not the same as the edge of the viewport. Any ideas?
 
@AlanMunn Can you answer this question.
 
5:08 PM
@MarcoDaniel I've added an answer. BTW, I don't think it was wise to point someone to a pretest version of TL as you did in your earlier comment.
 
@AlanMunn I wrote Perhaps TL2013 ;-)
 
@MarcoDaniel Sure, but since the pretest version by-passes the MacTeX installer (I think) it's the kind of thing that can lead to problems, especially for users who are independently not very clued into things. Not everyone likes the bleeding edge.
 
5:36 PM
@AndrewStacey do you mean its in an html table or do you mean the parent is the mtable?
 
6:03 PM
@JosephWright yep, I was trying to do that with JabRef automatically. Anyway, I solved the problem for now: I'll import a citation into JabRef one by one as needed
 
6:18 PM
@Sosi Did the trick of @tohecz work?
 
6:41 PM
@DavidCarlisle
<div class="displaymaths align">
<math xmlns='http://www.w3.org/1998/Math/MathML' display='block'>
<mrow>
<mtable columnalign="right left right left right left right left right left" columnspacing="0em">
<mtr><mtd><mi>x</mi></mtd> <mtd><mo>=</mo><mi>y</mi><mo>+</mo><mi>z</mi></mtd>
<mtd><mtext><span class="eqnnumber" id="equation.1.2">2</span></mtext></mtd></mtr>
<mtr><mtd><mi>a</mi></mtd> <mtd><mo>=</mo><mi>b</mi><mo>+</mo><mi>c</mi></mtd> <mtd><mtext><span class="eqnnumber" id="equation.1.3">3</span></mtext></mtd></mtr>
 
@MarcoDaniel regarding JabRef?
 
@Sosi yes
 
@MarcoDaniel omg, the effort it took me to import some references into Jabref... In the end, I imported only 30 (of the 15k that I have). But yeah, it's working! :)
 
@AndrewStacey ah just saw that will look, meanwhile I got something working but I needed javascript, seems like you cn set colours and stuff with css but you can't make it float with css, so in practice I would probably just make a big gap and have a fixed eqn number column but if you want to float to edge of screen
<!DOCTYPE html>
<hrml>
<head>
<title>??</title>
</head>
<body>
<p>testing<span style="float:right;">ss</span></p>
<math>
<mtable columnalign="right left">
<mtr><mtd><mi>a</mi></mtd><mtd><mi/><mo>=</mo><mi>b</mi></mtd><mtd><mtext><span id="xxx"></span></mtext></mtd></mtr>
<mtr><mtd><mi>xx</mi></mtd><mtd><mi/><mo>=</mo><mi>yy</mi></mtd><mtd><mtext><span id="yyy"></span></mtext></mtd></mtr>
</mtable>
</math>
<span id="xxx2" style="position:absolute; top:10pt; right:10pt;">(1)</span>
<span id="yyy2" style="position:absolute; top:10pt; right:10pt;">(2)</span>
 
7:02 PM
@egreg: ready? :)
 
@PauloCereda: Yesterday I finished pdftex and xetex support for rounded corners.
 
@MartinScharrer yay, how nice! :)
 
I'm thinking about rounded frame support as well.
It's very similar. Mostly just a "stroke" command instead of "clip".
 
Sounds interesting! :)
@egreg: Damn Gilardino!
 
7:19 PM
Can we just close all questions about which margins are best on the grounds that they are non-constructive (or whatever the newspeak term for that is)? Grr.
 
@DavidCarlisle I was coming to the conclusion that I would need javascript as well. Any reason why you're using two elements? Why not just reset the positioning for the span inside the mtext?
 
7:43 PM
Any MikTeX people who can help out this person? tex.stackexchange.com/q/121269/2693
(See comments to my answer.)
 
7:56 PM
@AndrewStacey because it didn't work, the spans inside don''t seem to want to be absolutely positioned, perhaps they can be, not sure what order I tried things
 
@DavidCarlisle I'll play around a bit more, thanks.
@DavidCarlisle In the meantime, I have a new expl3 question for you on the main site.
 
@AndrewStacey I was more busy answering a different question:-)
@AndrewStacey \begingroup\lccode'\~='\^^M\lowercase{\endgroup\def\foo{~}} but I suppose you want a version with _ and : in....
 
@DavidCarlisle Well, I'd like something that works in between \ExplSyntaxOn ... \ExplSyntaxOff by preference.
 
@AndrewStacey well that would work there, it just doesn't use it much, oh apart from the ~ hmm what else is active by default, I'll have a look but Joseph may make a proper answer, or Frank was on site earlier today
 
8:20 PM
Ah, the fixed-bug-by-reverting-back-past-optimisations experience again.
@JosephWright: When I revert the xetex driver to the first version you gave me the clipping works again.
After this update it stops working when there is a resized image or even text inside: bitbucket.org/martin_scharrer/adjustbox/commits/…
 
@MartinScharrer :-)
@MartinScharrer Will take a look
 
@JosephWright Thanks, I don't understand XeTeX's PDF internals myself.
 
8:59 PM
@MartinScharrer Could you send me a demo file for testing: I'd like to work out what is really going on! My aim is to have a minimum of required stuff in the drivers for L3, and the same applies here.
 
@MartinScharrer @JosephWright did you fix that adjustbox clipping includegraphics interaction the other day?
 
@DavidCarlisle We just talking about it
 
@DavidCarlisle See above, I guess
@DavidCarlisle I'll work on it properly over the weekend for expl3 and for adjustbox
 
@JosephWright wasn't sure if that was same thing
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes: the clipping support for XeTeX is something I worked out from what pgf does, but there are no comments in that code and lots of unclear steps. I minimised things as best I could, but the driver docs are also terse so may have got it wrong. Will rework once I have got a good set of examples.
 
9:07 PM
@JosephWright when I was doing that sort of thing for the original graphics drivers I found it was easier/safer to try to do any save/restore at the same spot I noted pdftex adjustbox driver did that putting the text in an rlap essentially but xetex's didn't. but I changed a few things but still got the clipping wrong so gave up last noght:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Feel free to assist :-)
@DavidCarlisle I have an idea of where to look, as I pulled this out of pgf as I said
@DavidCarlisle Not sure what you mean about the \rlap
 
Oh I just looked for the 10 oclock news and see its delayed by some football match. that's why @egreg and @PauloCereda aren't here...
@JosephWright tc-pdftex.def has ` \hbox to 0pt{\copy#1\hss}%`
@JosephWright which is rlap
 
@DavidCarlisle Ah, I'm reading the expl3 drivers, which don't :-)
@DavidCarlisle I'll see if I can find where I went wrong, but would like some demos to test, either from you or @MartinScharrer
Probably a job for tomorrow evening, now: a bit late for me
 
@JosephWright same here:-)
 
@JosephWright @DavidCarlisle: I added the \rlap code (and the \hskip \wd#1) and there is no change in the wrong placement.
So it's not that part.
 
9:15 PM
@MartinScharrer Still, I'd like to see why it's there :-)
 
@JosephWright I can't recall how it came into the code. But it happened in revision 316 where I replaced the \pdfxform with some PDF path.
 
@MartinScharrer Like I said, I will take a look at this too: just need the demos :-) (I have my notes for the expl3 drivers to work from for the rest)
 
Did I copied from the PGF driver as well? I actually think so.
 
@MartinScharrer Possibly: I worked hard on the L3 stuff to work out what was required and what was not, but as I say may have 'missed a trick'.
 
@JosephWright I will compile some examples now and send them to your by email.
 
9:18 PM
@MartinScharrer Cool: expect something back over the weekend
(if not sooner)
 
@JosephWright in postscript if you go
gsave
(hello) show
grestore
(world) show
where the save restore is so you can scale hello then (even if you don't scale) things go wrong as you reset the current point back to the start of hello. So by inserting a save/restore into the output stream the tex and driver idea of teh current point differ unless you arrange they are the same point anyway
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, could be that
 
@JosephWright Any ideas on my end-of-line question? It's really bizarre: as far as I can tell, David's answer is identical to the token list I get by slurping the first character but it doesn't work in the search and replace whereas the slurped one does.
 
@DavidCarlisle As I say, will work on it :-)
@AndrewStacey Haven't seen that one
 
@AndrewStacey ah I didn't test that:-)
 
9:24 PM
@DavidCarlisle Have to work it all though carefully
(again)
 
/TimesRoman findfont 10 scalefont setfont
newpath
0 0 moveto
100 100 lineto
stroke

100 100 moveto
gsave
(hello) show
grestore
(world) show

 showpage
 
@DavidCarlisle I'm hoping for a LaTeX demo (from Martin): I do understand PostScript, but not so well as TeX :-)
 
@JosephWright just look at it in gs(view) :-)
 
@DavidCarlisle I did: looks as I'd expect
 
@JosephWright with overprinting
 
9:30 PM
@DavidCarlisle Exactly
As there is a restore
 
My boss asked me to fix my vacation plans for this year, which reminded me on:
 
@DavidCarlisle Like I said, will work on the driver stuff unless someone else sorts it first :-)
 
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Q: Who plans to go to the TUG 2013 conference in Japan?

Stefan KottwitzTUG 2013, this years meeting of the TeX Users Group will be in Tokyo, Japan, from October 23 to October 26. Who would like to go there? Does anybody plan to make a presentation?

 
@MartinScharrer Will you go?
 
@JosephWright Well Japan would be cool. I have to check how much it will cost me.
 
9:33 PM
@JosephWright yes but that means you cant implement scalebox by gsave 2 scale .... tex generated content ... grestore as you get exactly that you need to use an rlap in tex so save and restore happen at same point and then get tex to put in a space to compensate then tex and postscript (pdf) agree where they are, or instead of gsave/grestore scale up then scale back by the inverse (but that can lead to rounding error drift)
 
@JosephWright Wasn't there some funding from SE last year or do I remember incorrectly?
 
@MartinScharrer @Stefan got money in 2011
 
@JosephWright 2011. Close enough ;-)
 
italy match going to penalties hope egreg's nerves hold out:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes, I know :-)
\hbox_set:Nn \l_@@_internal_box
{
\__driver_box_scale_begin:
\hbox_overlap_right:n { \box_use:N #1 }
\__driver_box_scale_end:
}
(\__box__resize_common:N)
 
9:36 PM
@JosephWright rlap as we used to call it:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Yes: the box clip/resize stuff I wrote in l3candidates is just a rehash of the stuff from graphics, but with easier fp workings
@DavidCarlisle Do feel free to improve my efforts: you know a lot more about this than me!
 
@JosephWright I wanted to do clip in the original graphics but as I recall I just couldn't get it to work in enough drivers to be worth it:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle As I said, the versions I wrote are half-inched from pgf, so Till (or one of his 'team') did the real work. I tried, but perhaps failed, to cut things down to the minimum required to work. Will sort it!
@DavidCarlisle It's only xdvipdfmx that's really tricky, as all of the other drivers I've targeted have 'native' support
 
@JosephWright plan b: move the xetex font loading to luatex then just use that:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Oh that we could
@DavidCarlisle Clipping a more realistic target (it does work in pgf, after all)
 
9:43 PM
@JosephWright shame:-)
 
Does anyone know how I could set biber not to use a typewriter font on a DOI number?
 
@Canageek Nothing to do with biber: depends on your biblatex style
 
@JosephWright Is there a way I could override the style from within the .tex document? Or set the "typewriter" font to be a Roman font?
 
@Canageek Yes: that's the point of biblatex. Which style do you use?
 
@JosephWright chem-rsc
But just as it looks the nicest, this is just for a group meeting, so it doesn't actually have to follow any particular style
 
9:46 PM
@Canageek Current code is
\DeclareFieldFormat{doi}{%
  DOI\addcolon\space
  \ifhyperref
    {\href{dx.doi.org/#1}{\nolinkurl{#1}}}
    {\nolinkurl{#1}}%
}
 
@egreg: Oh no.
 
So you can simply drop the URL here or alter the URL styling
 
@DavidCarlisle I went digging into xparse.sty and discovered that the right catcode is other. I don't know why \char_show_value_catcode:n wasn't reporting that, but it wasn't. Anyway, I've edited your answer accordingly and accepted it.
 
@JosephWright I've been having the DOI hyperlinked and not including the URL in the text
 
@AndrewStacey cheers (good to get points for wrong answers:-)
 
9:48 PM
@Canageek Something like \def\UrlFont{\rm} I think will work (untested)
Right, bed time for me!
 
@JosephWright That looks very nice
 
@egreg: at least I know which team we will support in the final. :)
 
@PauloCereda Spain?
 
@JosephWright Thanks, doesn't that look pretty? ^^
Sleep well
 
@DavidCarlisle Traitor. :)
 
10:17 PM
@PauloCereda You bet.
!!/battle
 
@egreg He's not back from the football
 
10:44 PM
@JosephWright, @DavidCarlisle: Another thing I figured while working on the clipping code: If you include a EPS file under DVI mode then apparently the BoundingBox not the HiResBoundingBox is used for the official TeX size of the image. This adds rounding errors!
If you try to clip 20pt of the example-grid-100x100pt from mwe you will see the differences between pdflatex and latex.
 
@MartinScharrer graphics pkg has a hiresbb option to read the latter if it is there
 
@DavidCarlisle Ah, I forget about that! Thanks!
This minimizes the differences to some internal rounding errors.
 
11:44 PM
@DavidCarlisle As usual, my answer is three pages long against your one-liner. ;-)
 
@egreg ah but my one line was written by and accepted by the OP:-)
 
@DavidCarlisle Let's wait. ;-)
 
@egreg surely @AndrewStacey wouldn't unaccept his own code
 
@DavidCarlisle: I don't get your "acrostic" text.
I get TeXiLmsi...
...which I don't understand. It's not English. :)
 

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