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I posted a question earlier and I got a reply that states a part of a Hadith: Why do Shia care about Hussain and not Hasan? Then the Lord, Almighty Allah said :"O My angels! O Residents of My Heavens, verily, I have not created the erected Sky, the stretched earth, the illuminated moon, ...

this is wipes every verse said in Qur'an about creation of Adam and his generation

goldPseudo

question is asking about an alleged Shi'ite doctrine from Shi'ite experts. nothing wrong with that.

there's a lot of people under the umbrella of "Islam" what disagree with each other on very fundamental aspects. nothing new there.

Omar

quran.com/17/61

goldPseudo

what's important is that someone who wants the Shi'ite opinion on this doctrine can get that from here without it being bogged down with noise.

Omar

quran.com/23/12

goldPseudo

9:37 PM

no matter how much you may disagree with the fact itself, you can't really disagree with the fact that Shi'ites do or do not believe it. We present facts, not dogma.

Omar

This was supposed to be my first counterquestion

goldPseudo

no reason you can't counterquestion. just make it constructive.

Omar

I cant answer it

but I can post a question

related to the answer there

goldPseudo

if your only goal is to prove Shi'ites wrong, this is not the site to do that on.

if your goal is to actually learn how Shi'ites reconcile seemingly conflicting evidence, that's perfectly fine.

Omar

I know @goldPseudo

that's why I'll refrain from posting counterquestions

I respect your opinion

I'm just concerned that my duty is to show right from wrong

educate ppl

promote good deeds

goldPseudo

9:42 PM

you can lead a horse to water but you cannot make him drink.

best we can do is provide the best water possible.

Omar

hmmm..let me think of another strategy then

goldPseudo

uncontrolled debate and apologetic inevitably just ends up mixing all the waters together and filling it with mud.

Omar

10:00 PM

@goldPseudo was Sunni presence stronger than now when the site first launched?

goldPseudo

i think so.

a lot of them ended up leaving after it started devolving into pointless shia-sunni debates.

Omar

the debate is tougher now due to political conflicts in the middle east

it's a debate that will never end until judgement day

goldPseudo

pah. there's always something going on in the middle east.

these debates are nothing new, and i doubt they're going to change so long as people disagree with each other.

Omar

but now it's too obvious

goldPseudo

i'm still seeing pretty much the same ad nauseum arguments that i've been seeing for decades.

honestly, i can't blame experts for avoiding this site. as it stands, i sure don't want to recommend it to anyone.

Omar

10:05 PM

debate isn't something new in any nation, religion, house, etc.

goldPseudo

if nobody can be bothered to moderate the site and make it something worth visiting, then yes this is what we end up with. it shouldn't come as a surprise.

Omar

your job is tough and you're doing pretty good

goldPseudo

the only reason my job is tough is because nobody else is doing theirs.

Omar

true

I'll do my job, in fact, I'm doing it ;)

@goldPseudo

can I ask the following question:

why didn't Ali (كرم الله وجهه) defend his wife and house?

Q: According to Shi'a Islam, did Fatimah (daughter of prophet Muhammed) die naturally, or was she killed?

Someone asked me why Fatimah passed away in just 90 days or less after her father: how did she die...my friend said she died naturally but I said she died due to an accident behind the door? I am looking for a Shi'ite perspective.

shiism islamic-basis ahl-ul-bayt fatima-zahra

goldPseudo

it's probably fine.

Omar

10:15 PM

it's a counterquestion

islam.stackexchange.com/review/suggested-edits/11508

give me my 2 cents :D

goldPseudo

ching ching

Omar

thanks 2 extra downvotes haha

goldPseudo

don't forget, downvoting questions is free.

Blog - Stack Exchange: Optimizing For Pearls, Not Sand

Jeff Atwood on June 13, 2011

In March 2010, we rebalanced our reputation system to favor answers.

While we value good questions (and asking a great question is absolutely an art), we want to explicitly encourage people to provide the best possible answers. Without people interested in providing good answers, the questions are moot. We know that answers have more intrinsic value than questions, and the reputation balance should reflect that.

The question asker already enjoys a substantial benefit beyond reputation gain from upvotes on their question — namely, they get great answers to their question! Thus, the asker shouldn’t need as much reputation gain. …

Omar

yup, but I target answers ;)

@goldPseudo I got the "Mjolnir hammer" on SO ;)

Bleeding Fingers

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