i don't care much about history. all we get now are reports which are (practically) impossible to prove. God knows the truth of all matters, we can but speculate.
i would rather not. i don't like to think of anyone as "sunni" or "shia" or anything. we should all be muslim.
wikipedia: "The word "Sunni" comes from the term Sunnah (Arabic: سنة), which refers to the sayings and actions of Muhammad that are recorded in hadiths (collections of narrations regarding Muhammad)."
i consider anyone who gives the shahadah to be muslim (unless they prove otherwise), no matter how much i may disagree with some (or most) of their interpretations.
briefly, the Sunnis believe it was categorically disallowed after a certain point by the Prophet (saws), and the Shi'a allow it because they don't accept that report
some interpretations claim it's less of a "permission" though since the Qur'an commands men to treat all their wives equally, and unless it's possible to treat everyone exactly equally men can't thus partake.
if it was God's will to enforce a particular system of succession, He could have commanded it clearly. I contend that God does not make mistakes in His message.
so you should reserach to see if he places any Caliph after prophet or not
if prophet deliver the command of God publicly in front of 120,000 Muslims can it be considered clear?
if prophet deliver the command of God about Caliphet publicly in front of 120,000 Muslims can it be considered clear?
this verse is about this command you want:
[5:67] Sahih International O Messenger, announce that which has been revealed to you from your Lord, and if you do not, then you have not conveyed His message. And Allah will protect you from the people. Indeed, Allah does not guide the disbelieving people.
@Ahmadi No offence, you are being overly argumentative. But that's not what StackExchange is all about. Don't carry debates one after the other. If you think there's some thing constructive, word it nicely in a Q&A format.. No need to hold debates in a chat room. Hope this wasn't harsh brother. :)
@PowerInside prophet (PBUH) said: the Judaism nation after Moses (PBUH) became 71 sect that 70 of them are in Hell and 1 in Heaven and Christianity nation after Jesus (PBUH) became 72 sect that 71 of them are in Hell and 1 in Heaven and Islam nation after prophet become 73 sect that 72 of them are in Hell and 1 in Heaven.
now do you think finding the true sect is not constructive?
what you define constructive?
constructing a huge amount of information for 72 sect who prophet said are in Hell is constructive?
@Ahmadi It is when people say that they are from this set and that that starts the division, they can be from that sect but they can just say I am Muslim, not I am Shia or I am sufo or I am Sunni, all those are merely words
Some Muslims might have a change of heart after reading Islam thoroughly and finding contradictory stuff. Is there an acceptable way for them to leave Islam without getting the death penalty?
Note, Many people have documented why they left Islam online. Is there an acceptable way in Islam to do ...
@Ershad continuing our discussion in the morning, this hadees stated intentions is that matters Bukhari :: Book 9 :: Volume 86 :: Hadith 85
Narrated 'Umar bin Al-Khattab:
The Prophet said, 'O people! The reward of deeds depends upon the intentions, and every person will get the reward according to what he has intended. So, whoever emigrated for Allah and His Apostle, then his emigration was for Allah and His Apostle, and whoever emigrated to take worldly benefit or for a woman to marry, then his emigration was for what he emigrated for."
@AlUmmat can you explain me this line from the quran [Surat Al-Fatĥ 48:29](http://quran.com/48/29) Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah ; and those with him are forceful against the disbelievers, merciful among themselves.
@Ashu From what i read, from the Arabic is, that they are more powerful than the disbelievers, or stronger, for instance when they meat in battle they are strong
oh thanks.. i get what you mean Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are **hard** against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves.
@Ashu Anyway, here is what I learnt from hadeeth notes as its explanation (only the part that is relevant to us) . Basically, It means any right deed should have right intention i.e. right intention is the basis. For example, someone might pray a lot.. someone might pray for Allah.. but sometimes Ar-riyaa (showing off) come into our intention.. and it messes with it. Same thing with seeking knowledge or answering on this website
.It is the right action, but if we do not do it for Allah, rather for fame.. then the actions is useless.
@Ashu Then the Prophet (sallallaahu ‘alayhi wasallam) gave a similitude in migration so that it may be reference for the rest of actions. So those who migrate have different intentions and thus the reward will vary to a great extent, even though the action is one (and that is the migration). So whoever migrates to Allaah and His Messenger (sallallaahu ‘alayhi wasallam), seeking the reward of Allaah and the victory for the Deen and giving help to the Deen then he is the sincere Muhaajir (immigrant), who attained in his intention the
That is from my notes
the second part of prophet
However,
Right intention do not justify wrong actions
The hadeeth merely says any right deed needs the right intention
so.. something like celebrating the prophet's birthday or writing 786 which is wrong action.. cannot be justified by a right intention
Let me give another example
The terrorist groups.. some are muslims among them
@NesreenA well if you had read what discussion we had in the earlier hours of this day you would have realized that this was never intended to be used for worship
@Ashu let me finish.. so these terrorists.. not only their interviews.. I have read their religious texts.. including material of their creed.. they really have good intentions.. however.. they have a small deviance.. and hence their action becomes wrong.. and the right intention has no use. You say that I am assuming 786 is wrong. Can you give me one hadeeth or verse where it is legislated to use 786
@Ashu. Any act in our daily life are two types : Ritualistic and Non-ritualistic. Every Non-ritualistic say eating, working our daily life activities. In them, unless there is explicit proof that something is impermissible, everything is permissible. For example, someone cannot say using laptop is haraam..unless there is proof But in the Ritualistic aspect, that is worship,it is opposite, to make something permissible or legislate something, you need evidence . These are fundamentals of sharia.
this is how idol worshipping began withing generations if people keep using it people will foget its smbolism take it as the truth
start saying numbers instead of quran
thinkungit has meaning
wouldnt it be best to just say quran
probably more ajir anyway
i heard a lecture about it
the shaytan makes people forget like statues used to be as they are used today pictures of their fathers so they wont forget them but then the shaytan said would it must be of importance since its in the middle of town
@Ashu - that scheme of numbering has no meaning. suppose i make up my own numbering scheme and add stuff up. suppose bismillah comes to 204. should i now start writing 204 on everything with the intention that it is bismillah?
in any case, what is legislated is "bismillah." not a numerical replacement
if you want to argue that a replacement or symbolism is OK, you have to bring proof
I am aware that the prophets may not be depicted in art work, but recently I've been told that people can't be drawn either. What are the specific Quran verses or Hadiths that support this? What is the reasoning behind this?
If drawing people is not permitted, does that mean that you may also n...
I can tell you that it is not wise to draw Prophets because we do not know how they looked lke, so that is why we do not draw prophets
Now for other things, photography and stuff, in the Shafi'i school it is haram to take a photograph or picture of that which has a soul, like humans or animals. But it is okay to draw that which has no soul, like a rock or tree
I believe the Ijma agreed that it is makrooh not haram.
I am aware that the prophets may not be depicted in art work, but recently I've been told that people can't be drawn either. What are the specific Quran verses or Hadiths that support this? What is the reasoning behind this?
If drawing people is not permitted, does that mean that you may also n...
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