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12:04 AM
Guys..
 
yes
 
when we ask questions or answer question we have to put in mind that 90% of the readers are non-muslims and non-arabs.. so we have to make sure to include proper citation, translation and links to provide good answers so people will be convinced and not laughing at us..
 
I understand
 
I know my last two questions sound weird.. regarding the marriage in islam. but believe it or not it is one of the biggest reasons people are talking badly about islam and the reason is "no one explained it to them the right way"
so we have to concentrate on these difficult bad ass questions..
this is my opinion.. I hope it will be accepted by you
 
of course, and please watch your language
 
12:09 AM
that is a term used to describe something extraordinary
and this is one of the points we have to talk about
alUmmat my friend you can not make all the people think the same way you think
for americans,,, bad ass is normal
for arabs it is not..
so we have to be cool here.. let people use the terms they want.. as long as it does not touch our religion.. we are not in a Masjid..
 
but you did say half of the members are nonmuslim
 
it is just my point of view..
most i guess...
for now mostly are.. but later mostly will be not..
Most muslims will not ask here if they need to know about islam
but non-Muslims will
 
i'm hoping the site becomes one with enough expert-level answers that muslims will want to ask questions here too.
God willing, we'll get a good mix of both muslim and non-muslim questions.
 
Well, muslims have lots of places to ask.. TV.. radio stations.. but the problem is with non-Muslims... non-Muslims are targeted by bad communities where they mess up the image of islam.. we need to be the good image of islam for non-muslims
if you think most people who come here will be muslims then you are totally wrong..
لا بد ان نتعلم كيف نتقبل الرأي الاخر... والا نهاجم اصحاب الراي الاخر.. ويكون هجومنا عليهم فقط بالحجة والبرهان..
and good night
 
what this site offers over the tv/radio/ask-an-imam-type sites is that they'll get a variety of answers from different schools of thought (God willing) rather than one particular answer from one particular scholar.
 
12:15 AM
you are right
but we need to target the non-muslims to describe the reasl image of islam to them
 
and that is the five
 
its been long destroyed in the western world because of bad people who claim to be muslims..
so, this is a good chance
 
yes
it is
 
stackexchange is one of the biggest communities on the internet.. full with young educated people.. so if you imagine targeting muslims only here.. then you lose all this community :)
 
there are plenty of muslims who don't understand the real image of islam either.
 
12:17 AM
good night friends...
i have work in few hours
تصبحوا على خير
 
Asalam wa alaikum
 
we shouldn't be "targetting" anyone. good questions deserve good answers, regardless of if they're from muslims or non-muslims.
 
I disagree somehow..
you can target
for muslims, a citation from Quran will be enough to make him believe in the point.
for non-muslim a citation from quran can be the opposite! maybe it will cause him to hate the point more..
 
you make a point
 
so, we need beside the citation from Quran and Hadith,,, we need a logical answer also..
this logical answer is the point here..
 
12:20 AM
are we keeping you here ?
 
a non-muslim has no reason to believein quran.. but he will believe in the point if it is LOGICAL... which will lead him to believe in quran
not really... for me leaving the internet is like leaving water for fish :)
 
oh ok
 
i don't task myself with 'convincing' anyone to believe the Qur'an. God is Al-Wakeel, it is not up to me whether they believe His message or not.
 
well.. i am not talking about that :)
I am talking about this:
1
Q: How come Mohammad (pbuh) was married to 9 women?

HaLaBiHow come Mohammad (pbuh) was married to 9 women while Islam allows men to have up to four wives? is there a reason behind that?

1
Q: Why are Muslims allowed to marry up to four women?

HaLaBiI mean, beside the fact that having more than one women is a great headache. How come Islam allows a man to marry up to four women? while women are allowed to marry one man only? whats the point behind that?

this is the kind of questions which will popup in non-muslims` head..
not "how to make wudhu'u" or "How to pray"...
 
user19161
@HaLaBi Zakir Naik gave an answer on that too!
 
12:23 AM
I know the answer
for all the questions I asked.
but I am putting it from now.. so by the time we go on public beta.. people will see good answers on that..
any way,, good night @AlUmmat, @goldPseudo, @JasperLoy and @Gigili
 
wise
good night salaam alaikum
 
"Why" type questions are tricky like that, especially since we really don't know God's wisdom unless He has revealed it.
 
user19161
@HaLaBi Good night.
 
it is not tricky
 
actually it is of the adab from Hadith Jibreel
 
12:25 AM
for you it is trickey because you were born loving mohammad (pbuh),,
 
please don't make assumptions about people.
 
but for non-muslims it is not tricky at all.. it is against their beliefs and they take this tricky things as jokes or points against islam (from their point of view).. but if they know the logic behind it then they will understand..
I am not making an assumptions my friend.. I have lived in few countries and I have traveled to more than 20 countries and I met many people who asked me this kind of questions :)
any way.. good night :)
 
the tricky thing about the "why" type questions is that they imply that there's even an objective answer. we can't really explain why God does what He does or allows what He allows unless He has explained it to us already.
they walk a fine line between on-topic and 'overly subjective and/or argumentative'
even if they're asked with the best intentions.
 
Asalamu wa alaikum
Good night guys
 
1:19 AM
wassalam
 
Walaikum assalam
 
just got email that we moved beta
Good to know :)
 
I have a friend that is coming to sydney
if we can't find halal
can he have vegetarian?
he's muslim @StartupCrazy
 
vegetarian is fine. you may want to be cautious around cheese.
 
1:23 AM
@goldPseudo what da ya mean?
 
@BenjaminLim: ?
 
you mean the rennet they use may not be halal?
 
it may or may not be. it is better to err on the side of caution.
 
@goldPseudo ok thanks. However if you go to a vegan restaurant I think that should be ok
 
the issue is that there are some vegetarians that still eat cheese, so "vegetarian food" doesn't necessarily mean cheese-free.
 
1:25 AM
@goldPseudo vegan and vegetarian are not the same, vegan means absolutely not animal products
 
true. your original question explicitly said 'vegetarian' though, so that is what i was responding to.
 
thanks
 
also kosher food and seafood is something to consider.
 
kosher?
 
kosher. the jewish version of halal.
 
1:28 AM
he can take kosher?
@goldPseudo How is it that the meat culled according to the jewish way is edible for muslims?
 
This day [all] good foods have been made lawful, and the food of those who were given the Scripture is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them... (5:5)
 
@goldPseudo where is that in the quran?
 
5:5
 
@goldPseudo yes but why jews?
Hmm it seems kinda odd that jews and muslims can eat the same food.
 
Helloooooo
Its not odd.
Muslims and Jews have a lot of similarities among them.
I have done a very little research on them.
Like the beard. Both of them have beards.
They way of life also has similarities.
 
1:54 AM
There aren't any moderators in private beta right?
 
Just user-moderated for now. The reputation required for mod privileges is way lower in private beta than it would be in public beta.
 
So, who sees flagged things?
 
not sure. i think it's just the SE staff until we get our own actual moderators elected, but that's just a guess.
 
2:21 AM
Hi
or better say Assalam O alaikum
Have been using SO from a long time so have developed the habit of saying hi.
 
there are mods
diamond mods, I think SE employees
 
Yes there are
 
wa'alikum as-salaam by the way :)
 
blog.stackoverflow.com/2010/07/moderator-pro-tempore (if i understand correctly, we're moderated by SE staff until they know enough about the community to appoint actual moderators, and then only for long enough to actually support a proper moderator election)
 
2:36 AM
sooner or later, a question would rise on this too: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Karbala
Allah hafiz all.
 
3:04 AM
where I can suggest tag? or add new tag?
 
3:14 AM
As long as you have at least 1 reputation, you can just type new tags in the tag field (when you create a new question, or retag an existing one)
 
@goldPseudo
thanks @goldPseudo
 
 
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4:21 AM
Assalamualaikum everyone
 
wa 'alaykum assalaam
 
 
3 hours later…
7:14 AM
@BenjaminLim McDonald's has vegetarian sandwiches. I also think eating chicken is OK when there's nothing else to eat.
 
7:49 AM
@Gigili Are you muslim?
 
@BenjaminLim Yes.
 
@Gigili Where do you live again?
 
@BenjaminLim I'm Iranian again.
 
ah ok!
sorry I forgot about that :D
@Gigili youtube.com/watch?v=tHnoewqUJp0 One of my favourite songs though it's in arabic not persian
 
@BenjaminLim Are you religious?
 
7:58 AM
not really.
But I have many muslim friends
 
I see. Good.
 
I have a friend who has just returned from umrah in mecca
 
Oh, nice. An Australian friend?
 
yes
he's of indian descent
 
I thought you were 25 or something when you ran for moderator.
 
8:00 AM
no :D
:d
@Gigili how come you thought I was 25?
 
@BenjaminLim Umm, I remember I saw in your profile.
 
ahahahah
 
Perhaps I was sleepy.
 
my age is not stated there :D
Though because perhaps the type of questions/answers I post?
 
it was 25 views, I thought it was your age!
@BenjaminLim May be, may be! You write good answers like Peter.
 
8:02 AM
thanks :D :D
which ones in particular?
 
Oh, you're the one who asked for one's Skype ID one day?
 
Aha, got it. You're the Indian guy's friend.
phew
 
kannappan?
 
Yes.
@BenjaminLim This
 
8:05 AM
ahahahahahah
I can't believe that was like 45 upvotes
@Gigili I send love from australia :D :D
 
@BenjaminLim Heh, thank you!
 
@Gigili I am going to cook dinner now, it's 6pm here
bye, nice talkin!
 
@BenjaminLim Enjoy your dinner.
Likewise, bye!
 
 
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10:02 AM
I suppose it is ok in this stage to ask questions that you already know it's answer?
 
It is, I think.
 
Good, because I have been making up questions in order to build some material before public beta begins.
 
Sounds good. Thank you for your concern.
 
Asalamu wa alaikum
 
ve aleykum salam
Who does peer reviews on Tag Wiki edits?
 
10:24 AM
I assume everyone can do it at this state. Or maybe not?
There are a lot of unnecessary tags already.
 
11:05 AM
Salam all
 
salaam
 
A fool has been answered as a best answer on here : uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/…
Should we get this question on SO? This is a hell of a misconception on yahoo answers answer.
 
I think there is already such a question
you better check first
 
Okay.
I am sorry but I have no knowledge about the question asked on yahoo answers. The thing is that he has narrated the quote from a book which I dont know
 
Reading that QA is quite disturbing :/
 
11:08 AM
yes
I did not read it fully. My blood starts boiling :@
 
I won't read it the first sentence is false
 
Do you think if a non-Muslims goes there will do the same?
 
Allah knows best
 
Sunan Nasai Bk of Marriage, No 3256
Is there any book by that name?
 
@StartupCrazy those two guys might just be trolling
@StartupCrazy nope
 
well someone of us can make a yahoo account and post an answer saying that there is no such thing as that has been said.... rest leave it to allah
 
Just searched for it and it does exist though its weak
I have an account.
 
but it is impossible that it will contain all that text stated it the question
@StartupCrazy well you can post it there
 
yes, we should have a look into the book
There is a hell of a junk and garbage on the internet with this thing.
 
@StartupCrazy yeah i already saw that
@StartupCrazy well here is a link to download the book but my net is too slow to download it :(
 
11:39 AM
Is it ok to ask a question like "what is the difference between shia and sunni?"
 
don't start an argument
 
Would it? It can be answered as Sunni believes this while Shia believes this etc.
 
It would be fine but do not be surprised if there are differences
 
@yasar11732 It's a good one. Actually there was a question about the difference between a particular subject on that matter and I mixed it up with the one you mentioned. So frustrating.
There's also a Wikipedia article about it which seems quite complete.
 
Although it may a good question, I still don't want to be the one who asked it. Still, I believe sooner or later someone will ask it.
 
12:00 PM
I have a question, what does inferior mean?
 
In which context?
 
You see I answered this question Why does a man count as two women in Islam? and gave a link to a page which has the answer and the page title is Women are inferior to men in the Quran ,
I do not know what it means
 
@AlUmmat Of lower rank.
 
thanks
 
You're welcome.
 
12:08 PM
I put a wrong answer
 
12:37 PM
Assalamu alaikum
 
Salaam.
 
Wa alaikum salaam
 
How many users are there now, any idea?
 
222/3
 
222/? what this 3 means
3 days may be
 
12:40 PM
there are 222 users now
 
I see you are a moderator of this site
Congratulation
 
no not of this site, how did you figur that?
 
Oh, i was wrong. islam.com
am i right?
 
oh, yes yes you are
 
not a very intelligent thing. - meaning i am not doing a very intelligent one
in your profile
 
12:43 PM
why?
 
I see that in your profile. I just said that.
Oh sorry, i see you got the wrong message.
very very sorry.
I was saying that, seeing you as moderator of islam.com is not a very intelligent work by me.
 
Assalaamu 'alaykum
 
I was simply see in your profile.
 
Wa alaikum salam
 
@goldPseudo aleykum salam
 
12:46 PM
i understand
 
Our numbers are looking good. Already got 8 avid users, and our questions/day is great.
 
@AlUmmat, so sorry for that
 
Not bad for not even a full first day yet.
 
What does avid user mean?
 
@goldPseudo, Wa alaikumus salam
is it first day?
 
12:47 PM
Over 200 reputation, according to the area51 metrics.
 
no yesterday was
 
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Islamislam.stackexchange.com

Beta Q&A site for muslims, experts in Islam, and those interested in learning more about Islam.

Currently in private beta.

 
the first day
 
Azan was given, going ...... salam to all
 
salaam
 
12:48 PM
see you later. make dua for this site, and the ummah
 
salaam
 
wa alaikum salam
 
ve aleykum salam
 
Al Ummat, sorry about challenging your answer on my question. I think the page you cited was kind of anti islam :/
 
yea i understood
 
12:55 PM
good ^^
 
The sites going pretty good for the first two days of private beta Al Hamdulallah
 
I know, so much enthusiasm
 
@BadgerGirl I find a 20 minute video about the ayat you mentioned in your question, however, it is in Turkish. I will see if something good comes out of it.
 
The one thing we need to work on is answering all of our questions.
And making good edits.
 
@yasar11732 Good to know ^^ I thought it would be better to have these questions before beta goes public
 
12:59 PM
@BadgerGirl I also believe so.
 
@BadgerGirl Are you Muslim?
Salaam, BTW.
 
@Gigili No, I am not :P
 
Oh.
Nice to meet you anyway.
 
Oh
 
@BadgerGirl Are you German?
 
1:02 PM
@Gigili No, I am mexican. I am currently living in Germany.
 
@BadgerGirl I speak German, that's why I asked.
 
@Gigili Are you German? I speak German too :)
 
@BadgerGirl Video was no good, it was just translation of the ayat :/
 
@yasar11732 Oh, too bad. I once read a very good explanation which didn't denigrate women, I will see if I can answer my own question.
 
@BadgerGirl Nein, ich will aber in DE studieren.
 
1:07 PM
@Gigili Geil ;) Ich habe für ein Jahr in DE gestudiert. Aber ich fliege zürruck nach Mexiko in ein Monat
 
@BadgerGirl Was studierst du? Wenn ich fragen darf.
 
@Gigili Informatik :)
 
@BadgerGirl Schön, ganz meinerseits!
Well, I guess we should stop before it annoys other people.
 
:)
 
I was going to say the same thing :P
BTW, I liked your answer on my question.
So where are you all from?
 
1:12 PM
Ohio
 
And are you all muslim?
 
Elhamdulillah I am.
 
@BadgerGirl I am Al Hamdulallah
 
Alhamdulillah I am
 
I guess I am the only one who is not. :/
 
1:19 PM
Hi All
:)
 
Hi =)
 
Hi.
 
hello
 
Do you know any scholor/article talking about the downloading thinks from internet that you are not supposed to? For example, what Islam thinks about internet piracy?
 
I never heard of such a thing, may be there is a site like that but I would have thought they would be on dvd first
 
1:24 PM
Internet piracy is the same as stealing, so I guess everything that applies to stealing applies to piracy...
 
@yasar11732 Hey, that's a really perfect question for the main site.
 
:)
 
Hmm, I will go on an ask than :)
 
@yasar11732 Yes, it is a great question
 
Nice move by all
great addition to stack exchange network
 
1:35 PM
I agree and I think it will be a very active site.
Hopefully more experts will come to the site
@yasar11732 Great question :)
 
@BadgerGirl Thanks :)
 
1:59 PM
Does anyone know how many questions per day should we have?
 
15
 

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