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12:36 PM
'allo
 
good morning
 
I feel like this new puzzle is a bit of a market test, as it were. Trying to see if anyone even cares enough for a crossword for the effort it takes to make one =D
 
it's pretty opaque to me, but I don't mean that it's not good
 
Once the theme is figured out, I think the puzzle opens up wide.
That's the only reason I didn't give it, up front.
 
there are a number of puzzles here where I take one look at them, and one look at whatever the clues are, and go "ok, I have no chance of getting this one"
 
12:38 PM
Agreed
This one was me just being silly with a foreign language, yesterday.
 
this is why I answer so many riddles/rebuses/word problems, and so few math problems or things that require image manipulation (like that ENHANCE puzzle)
 
Same
The math ones....
Well I haven't looked at any of that kind of math in several years
And, in my opinion, you have to be pretty well versed in the math to be able to interpret cryptic clues into it.
 
hey guys
 
hey Matt
 
12:44 PM
"It's a bad thing that people are getting upvotes on their comments complaining about editors incorrectly editing their posts"
 
looking at the crossword now
Catholic Praise Hymn makes me feel like I can do this ... but I sing in a church choir, and know scores of hymns ... and most of them are titled by their first lines, which are rarely 6 letters
 
The problem is that, in my opinion, the edit rules for Puzzling need a slight adjustment. Images should, in most cases, be considered part of the puzzle, unless it's VERY obvious that they are there mistakenly. However, we're not talking about a screenshot of a code editor or anything.
It's a song I sung at State, long ago, if that helps, Matt.
Likely it doesn't, though =D
 
yeah, re: editing
Like, nobody "accidentally" posts an image of text, thinking that's a normal thing. Nobody has ever done that in the history of the internet.
 
I get what she's saying, though
It's less about the edit and more about his attitude towards it.
He doesn't need to be so defensive; she's not trying to be mean.
 
But that particular user has said absolutely stunningly backwards stuff like this before: last time it was about how Questions That Are Too Broad are scaring off potential users (as opposed to, say, the practice of closing questions we think might be too broad scaring off potential users); now it's "telling editors not to overstep their bounds" is scaring off new users, not new users having their posts unnecessarily and incorrectly edited
 
12:53 PM
I think that's where her complaint lies.
Yeah, that part I don't agree with, either.
 
I've never known anyone who was scared away from something by not being policed enough
I have, however, known literally hundreds of people who avoid various things because those things are overpoliced
 
I'm amused that now she's getting defensive.
At that point, it's not worth my time, and I'm out of the conversation.
.
 
Yeah, I guess the funniest part to me is that she's characterizing the complaints as something harmful - I don't see them as anything other than justified complaints. If anything, I'm more comfortable in a place where people don't just let the administration do whatever they want with no complaint.
 
However she tries to defend that the question is purely about responses, though - she titled the post "Deliberate errors", as if to imply that people are making mistakes intentionally, and then getting upset when someone fixes them.
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Which is simply not what is occurring.
"I am not objecting to rolling back the edit."
"Here have been a few puzzles lately with "mistakes" in them that on any other site, the right thing to do would be to edit and fix. Here on puzzling, not only does the author undo the help,...."
Which is it?
Meh - any luck, Matt?
 
not yet
I keep bouncing between clues
 
1:09 PM
Yeah, I do the same with crosswords - bounce around til one of them works, then work from there.
 
also - over the weekend, the lock and key riddle got an insane amount of attention
my answer has 42 points
 
which one was that, again?
 
I am both lock and key ... turned out to be caps lock
it's at the top of the week list
 
1:43 PM
nice
I don't think I even saw that puzzle, to be honest
 
I liked that one; I thought the title was clever
 
Yeah - is well done
 
heyyyyyyyyy, it's manshu
 
Hey, Fu =D
:p
 
I tried to do some puzzling yesterday and today my marks got halved...
hey
 
1:47 PM
lol, manshu
 
that's not fair
 
Well then don't try my crossword - it may take more than a couple minutes.
 
haha
that crossword is cool
 
I always feel a little weird when I post an answer based off someone else's answer
(this is something I just did)
 
you did it me three or four times
 
1:49 PM
I think I did it once, and it was because you posted it in the comments.
 
Yeah, q_a, but such is the nature of this site, sometimes.
It's a balancing act =D
Tosses q_a a weighted pole
 
hahaha
 
let me count...2 math puzzles. The one whose answer as april. And another one just to be sure
 
Does anyone else find...
A "Gee I'm a Tree" puzzle -- about trees -- to be amusing? =D
 
post the link here
 
1:51 PM
2
Q: Plant 9 trees in 10 rows of 3

Ivo Beckers"Tree-planting" puzzles are also known as "points and lines" puzzles. The English puzzle author and mathematician Henry Ernest Dudeney was very fond of them. In 1917, Dudeney published a collection of puzzles called "Amusements in Mathematics", which also contains the following classic puzzle: ...

I just meant the premise - not the puzzle, itself =D
 
ah...I hate math
 
infamously - Corrected, q_a :P
Yeah, it's not the type of puzzle that I have time to look at, personally
 
shhhh.... q_a is busy right now
 
lol
 
1:55 PM
see? he/she is so busy that he/she posted such a short message
 
"such a short message"
 
yeah... "haha" is short in length
 
I was posting: "such a short message" too :)
 
deja vu
 
lol
6
Q: Quick Puzzle: Is it a Zebra?

JJosaurIs it a Zebra? 0 0 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 1 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 0 1 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0 0 (or if you prefer it without the spaces: 001011011110001...

Sigh, i couldn't resist..
I just HAD to make the "If it doesn't have a tail, it's not a monkey, it's an ape" joke.
I really did try.
 
2:01 PM
hahaha ok so I clicked my notifications box and saw a comment from That Thread that I had missed earlier. "The editors can't read your mind. That doesn't make them imperfect." lol what. I'm pretty sure no one is perfect, as a general rule, and it has nothing to do with mind-reading.
 
lol
 
That person... does not make very good/convincing/logically sound arguments.
 
To be fair, I think she's referring to Question's comments about "I know what I'm doing" and "I will make no mistakes"
 
true...it's like saying if a disc is flat..then so is earth
 
To state that no one is allowed to edit your posts because you will never make mistakes is a bit offputting.
 
2:04 PM
Yeah, I will agree that "I don't make mistakes" (which, I don't actually know whether that's the actual wording or not, so that could be misleading) is... not the best response, but it's also not the first or only response, and feels a lot like cherrypicking
 
Yeah, the actual wording was the "I will make no mistakes" (had to go look it up)
 
Yeah right...i am also a God...
 
I agree that over-editing is an issue we should all be careful about, so we don't be quick to edit everyone else's stuff.
Sorry, typo..
 
ah, yeah, that's not a great thing to claim, and I'll even admit that expecting people to just trust that everything you did was intentional is silly, but it's literally exactly as silly as saying "just because the editors can't read minds doesn't mean they ever make mistakes"
right?
to me, it's disconcerting to see someone with clout on the site being like "actually, no, editors are always justified, and it's bad that anyone even questioned it"
 
Khale, is there any significance to the capitalization inconsistencies in your crossword clues?
 
2:07 PM
Eh,lemme check
I honestly wrote everything out in Notepad++ as I was designing it, and then type-copied it over
Ah, no - I've removed it.
Btw, keep in mind the crossword tag, instead of the cryptic-crossword tag
I don't feel like she's complaining about the questioning of it, q_a
I think it's more the attitude that was used, while doing so.
 
Well, you even mention it yourself above - she laments the rollback (while also saying it's fine that it was rolled back)
and again, she has quite literally and quite directly said in multiple places that the editors shouldn't be questioned.
 
You're right - she says multiple things in the post, and then argues with herself. But I think that was her original goal is what I mean.
Despite the invalid way of doing so
But I'm guessing
 
I agree about the attitude, though; all I'm really saying is that that's a secondary thing. There wouldn't be any attitude if people weren't mistakenly making edits
 
Fair enough - we've all seen some overzealous editing, due to the gamification.
 
and like I said before, one of those edits, sure, I get it, it looked like a misspelling, but the other one was a really obviously deliberate move.
 
2:13 PM
Well right -and it takes conscious effort to add an image to a post.
One should take a moment to make sure it wasn't intentional. it's perfectly okay, imo, to edit a puzzle AFTER the solution is found, if it's clear, at that point, that it was a mistake.
 
yeah, exactly. that's similar to my opinion about jumping the gun on "too broad" puzzles
 
Yeah - though I think that one's more a matter of definition
0010110 22
11110001 241
00111010 58
10011011 155
11011011 219
11001010 202
01101111 111
01111011 123
00101001 41
10111101 189
001101111 111
00010100 20
11100111 231
Those are the numbers I came up with for the Zebra puzzle
But there's not an 8-divisible number of characters
Oh, and if I'm going to do another crossword, I need to find a crossword maker, lol
I made that image in paintbrush :P
 
I once made shinchan in paint brush
 
lol
 
wait...let me upload it
damn my net speed. :(
does anyone know how does GentlePurpleRain stays in the The Sphinx Liar for the whole time...I mean to say that he is always shown in the room...meanwhile I get out of it in just 1 hour of being idle
 
2:20 PM
maybe he is just sitting there, constantly tapping his space bar
 
haha...it has been 19 days since he posted a single message
Remember shin-chain?
 
lol
I haven't had any issues with being knocked out of a room
I keep mine up, all the tiem
time*
 
even I don't have any issue...but I am curious
 
I mean I've never been knocked out of a room
 
that false/false/false rebus is bugging me
 
2:26 PM
I didn't meant to say that some person kicks me out...
 
me, too q_a
especially with his ocmment regarding True Lies
 
Okay...he doesn't close his browser...that's why
send the link q_a
 
5
Q: Rebus - Who am I?

TTTThis is my first rebus, and I only mention that because I needed more characters. 0 false 1 = 2 Who am I? Hint: Hint 2:

to me it looks like (no|nothing|zero) (untrue|incorrect) (false|statement|equivalency)
where each of those groups in parentheses are the possible choices for one line of the puzzle
 
the last one could also be "lie" or "not possible" (I tried Skywalker), or a few others.
 
no wrong unequal?
 
2:31 PM
I still wonder if it's...
No. It's not possible! Nooooooooooooooooo!
 
haha
hmm. I wouldn't rule that out, but I feel like the clues should be in a different order if that's the intended answer.
 
Agreed
1, 3, 2
 
actually, let me go on record saying that that's the most likely answer I've heard so far
 
haha
 
haha
 
2:33 PM
There, I posted it
Link and all, hahaha
It fits the new 2nd hint, though
lol
 
3 statements
all different (sort of)
lol
 
OH, your revised guess is way better
 
Yeah, I had the quote wrong - the correct quote fits better
 
also, when it comes to star wars stuff
I associate "nooooooooooooooooo" with vader
thank you, episode 3
 
2:40 PM
You're right - and clicking the button that I linked is Vader's voice, too
 
hehe
 
I had this meme
 
couldn't resist
am I the only one who knows hell lot of nothing about star wars
yes i am
 
2:44 PM
you know. I only really know what I know about star wars because a) I watched the movies a few times when I was a kid, and b) I was around people who really liked star wars a lot
 
yeah, pretty much the same thing, here
I don't dislike it at all - but haven't gotten around to seeing the new one yet
 
left to my own devices, I probably wouldn't have retained much star wars knowledge. I liked it just fine, it just never did much for me. Plus as far as Harrison Ford goes, I liked Indiana Jones way better
yeah, same here
 
damn...let me put star wars in my check list
 
lol @ TTT's comment
 
I have a friend who has never seen it, and she gets so much shit from boring dudes about that
 
2:45 PM
lol
 
when I met my wife, and she told me she'd never seen the movies, we planned a day to watch all of them
 
watch the movie, she should. Less crap she will get
 
I have so many friends who haven't seen it yet...and we are too happy
 
Yeah, mine finally watched them a few years ago, Matt
 
Oh man...I just realised that the anagram of GOSSIP is GO PISS
 
2:49 PM
NICE
 
IS POGS! :P
 
lol
 
oh no, now I'm remembering the 90s
 
SPOGSI!
SIP SOG
Okay, I'm done.
 
done what?...anagram of gossip
?
 
2:53 PM
yeah, lol
 
which is go piss...
check mate mate
 
hahah I totally just skimmed a puzzle and answered without realizing I was looking for the wrong kind of thing
 
3:12 PM
hello @ABcDexter
welcome to the good room for cool people
 
hello @question_asker
was reading the talk above :-)
how is everyone?
 
great
how about you
 
nothing much, just converting O2 into CO2 :-P
 
add CH4 maybe
 
hahah xD
 
3:18 PM
3
Q: CH4 + O2 => CO2 + 2H2, what's wrong with it?

Abhishek MhatreIt says in my textbook that: $$\ce{CH4 + 2 O2 -> CO2 + 2 H2O}$$ which seems like a displacement reaction to me. Shouldn't the reaction be: $$\ce{CH4 + O2 -> CO2 + 2 H2}$$ since $\ce{4H}$ are displaced by $\ce{O2}$ (becoming $\ce{2 H2}$), which makes the reaction balanced? Why is the reacti...

lol
 
to digress from this, has anyone else watched Batman v Superman?
 
ahh...there will be some chemistry in my next puzzle
not yet...
But I saw "Sad Affleck"
 
Ohh, that is maybe because of the divorce last year.
She's not with him to share this glory
 
the movie is not getting good response from those people who judge the movie
I forgot what we call them
 
aah chemistry in a puzzle, will wait for it
gotta go and have dinner, hope you like it
WE call then nincomPOOPs :-P
*them
 
3:21 PM
haha
 
Hope you like the movie,
I gave it 9/10
 
i also need to have some dinner
 
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A: Why is Batman's name placed before Superman's in Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice?

ABcDexterIt is because Yes, almost in every I noted down 54 different scenes in the movie and the whole movie can be divided into these 4 parts. The buildup. It mainly shows Bruce when Superman was fighting with Zod. So, the movie begins with Bruce, the gunshot at his parents and his perception of S...

 
maybe they just did it alphabetically
 
yes,
 
3:24 PM
I have a better answer:
Because
:P
 
Because v Superman?
 
Lexicographically B<S. — ABcDexter Mar 23 at 15:41
 
Lex movie confirmed!
 
or perhaps it did better in focus groups to have the bat man first
because that's what suits do for these things, I assume
 
versus flows better to superman than batman
 
3:26 PM
lol I saw that affleck video this weekend
 
5
Q: Find the hidden message

AMACBThe Clues All the information you can find is here in the post UmVtZW1iZXIgdGhhdCBhdCBmaXJzdCB5b3UgYXJlIG9mZiBieSBvbmUu hs6QPnflXaeQCHuPlY2vXX3MjQNjV8b3W+MHjUII654kWpWGfV2s1M3upfgusCD15l5wLfu8FzxRHyv3e/kov31nqfgO88GaquFUDH/CFU4= (All the information you need can be seen in the above section...

 
3:54 PM
Khale, in your crossword, are any of the solutions abbreviations or otherwise shortened words?
 
I'm surprisingly lost on the catholic hymn clue
I can't find anything with only 6 letters in the title
 
what language are you looking in? ;)
^^^ (Trick question alert)
 
english and latin
both use the first line (or half of it) for titles, commonly
 
True
I have faith that you'll find it :)
 
4:12 PM
you have faith
you're starting to sound like Dailey hahah
 
I have one word so far, but it's the one that only intersects with one other word
wee-ooo
 
I have one word also
and a guess at its sole intersection
I suspect we both have the same word
 
haha, Matt :P
I was going more for Hugh than Dailey :P
oh man - this puzzle I'm looking at is tricky..
I don't know what the salt is, yet...
But if I'm close, this is going to translate to Kanji....
hell.
 
are you looking at that "layered" one?
 
have some respect for each other guys...i.e. don't make fun...don't compare people
 
4:18 PM
yeah, q_a
we're not making fun. Hugh is very optimistic towards his solvers about them being able to solve it. I simply feel the same way.
 
oh..
 
sorry, I was just recalling last week when Dailey kept telling us to "get back on track" regarding "musical in nature"
 
I have a bad feeling I'm going to be annoyed at the "mispronounced" word
 
You'd have to be very familiar with the language for it to annoy you, I think
I could be wrong, though
 
wait, are all the answers not in english
 
4:26 PM
q_a isn't it your fav. part?
 
You'll have to figure out the theme of the puzzle to know that answer, q_a =D
Though, the question you're investigating has a good chance of you finding informatino, online, for
I give up on this puzzle. I know nothing about AES decryption, and trying to guess my way through it isn't working.
 
yeah that was my reaction to the puzzle
 
I gave it a good try.
lol
1
Q: What is the result of the sum?

Kevin Cruijssen$A_1$: lateral-thinking 0H828JD1FGHODB82JOO $A_2$: computer-puzzles 01111011 $A_3$: visuallateral-thinking (Sorry if you are colorblind..) $A_4$: visualcomputer-puzzles 83972748 ...

This is a VERY oddly setup puzzle.
 
I'm assuming your puzzle's answers are in [a language that was spoken by people involved in the notable western-world happenings of 240BC, but I don't know which language]
yeah, not fond of that one
(but it's probably the most well-known language (to modern people) of that part of the world, of that time in history)
 
It actually isn't
 
4:33 PM
well then how would we know?
 
The year is pertinent to the language in some way.
 
I've got guesses at 4 of the clues, but I'm only happy with 1 of them
 
but the answers aren't in that language?
and if that's the case, why would I need to know the language to be annoyed by a mispronunc... OK I'll just admit defeat
 
lol, sorry - I'm not trying to be cryptic - I keep switching back here while trying to solve the above puzzle
 
which clue did you solve?
 
4:37 PM
I thought I had the passel clue. Or at least, I had a guess at what it could be.
 
same for me
do you want to try working this out together?
 
That would be fine with me, but I am very not confident that I am even starting in the right place here
 
well, Khale says the year is important to the language somehow, and 240BC is thought to be the beginning for Latin literature
 
yeah, that was my guess about the language
(though obviously other languages existed then, too; it's just the one with the most notable historical influence, at least in the west)
 
I'm interested in seeing you guys work in this, tbh. I'm pretty certain you'll get it.
 
4:49 PM
to that end, what I have for passel's will probably match what you have
starting with C
 
OK well I'll start: Before I realized there was a non-trivial language component, the word I have (had?) for the passel clue was CONSENSUS
which could still work
but I was basically going with the definition of passel (a word I hadn't really encountered before, as far as I can remember) as "a group of things or people"
 
same for me
Romans did censuses (censi?)
I have no idea what to make of a mispronounced battle cry, so I guessed cacophony for those 9 letters
 
so basically, if that word is right (seems likely since we both came to the same conclusion), that gives us a clue for the vampire one
oh, I went with coagluate (misspelling of 'coagulate', but that was just because it was the first word I thought of having to do with blood)
cacophony I think is more greek than latin
 
it is
 
I'm going to be amused if you both solve the puzzle with these words..
 
4:54 PM
I think for court it is jury
 
ooh, yeah, that trumps what I had guessed
 
I thought about jury, but part of the reason I came up with "coagluate" (still, probably wrong) is that it has an L which could give us "LAWS" or whatever the latin form is (lex? lege? I don't know)
 
I went laterally to para[legal]
and I don't like it
but it matched the p I had in cacophony
 
Because this is a crossword and not doing so will frustrate you, in the end, I'm going to let you know that you're going down a rabbit hole, currently.
 
coagulate and cacophony are then, as suspected, incorrect
 
4:58 PM
rabbit_hole = index(0);
 

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