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5:00 PM
I envy people with obsessive compulsive disorder, I find them really ordered.
 
It is really bad when it gets out of hand, that is when it is labelled as such.
No words can describe the suffering I have endured.
Oh, I just bought "Complete French" and "Complete German" today from the "Teach yourself series".
 
I just visited teachyourself.co.uk (thanks)
 
I hope to learn the basics of each language in a month.
 
Good bye everyone. (Time for me to sleep). @Will it's 1:05 am, go to sleep.
 
later
 
5:06 PM
@Moron I don't sleep regular hours. See you.
@IceBoy Do you have an answer to my latest ELU question?
 
link please
 
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Q: Books on punctuation

Will HuntingWhat are some good books on punctuation? Ideally, such a book should treat punctuation in both American English and British English. I have seen so many different rules in different books that I am confused what really is correct when it comes to punctuation.

@IceBoy So?
 
@WillHunting very deep question...
+1 for trying :-)
 
@IceBoy Yes. I can't find a satisfactory guide...
 
@WillHunting Professor Lawler has given some suggestions in the comments, ask him.
 
5:16 PM
@IceBoy Do you have any books in mind?
 
@WillHunting not really, sorry pal :(
It is an important idea.
 
5:34 PM
Hi people, recently I have asked a question (ok, no-one answered ), for which I have a secondary question, which is brief and stand-alone... Here it is:
Let $X$ be a random variable with mean value $\mu=(\mu_1,\ldots,\mu_t,\ldots,\mu_n)^\top$, where $\mu_t=\mathbf{w}_t\cdot(\mathbf{u}+\mathbf{e})+b_t$. What is the covariance $\sigma_{ij}=\operatorname{cov}(\mu_i,\mu_j)$?
Any help?
Thanks in advance!
(In case someone is interested, the question is here, no intention to spam...)
( thanks for the upvote, as well, if it was one of you! )
 
;-)
 
Huy
Good evening.
 
Hi @Anastasiya-Romanova
 
Good evening.
 
Huy
5:43 PM
@rehband: But like part-time jobs, it has rewards too. :>
 
Hi @WillHunting!
 
@Huy True that! Do you have a gf at the moment?
 
Huy
@rehband: Indeed, I do. Plus three part-time jobs. Plus lectures, seminars and the bachelor's thesis. :P
 
Get in to chatroom just to show this math.stackexchange.com/a/938103/133248 to @Chris'ssis
 
@Huy Wow you must be crazy busy then
 
5:45 PM
@Huy Is it publishable research?
 
Huy
@rehband: As you can see, I'm here talking to strangers. :D
 
@Huy Haha. What's your bachelor theisis about?
 
Huy
@WillHunting: It is a possibility.
@rehband: It's about Matsubara Green functions.
 
Also..3 part time jobs??
 
Huy
@rehband: Teaching at high school is around 25%, teaching assistant at uni is around 30%, and also working for a small project at another university at around 40%. :D
 
5:47 PM
@Huy I wrote something for my bachelor's too, but it is not considered research. I wrote on how completion of step function space under L1 norm is equivalent to lebesgue space. It was about 20 pages.
 
Huy
@WillHunting: Sounds interesting. Over here, usually the professor gives you a problem that - if you actually succeed in doing everything the way he thinks it can be done - is definitely publishable. However, not everyone succeeds (some are more gifted, some less, obviously) and so some thesis will still be accepted but are not good enough to be published.
 
@Huy Very good
 
@Huy That only leaves 5% for your gf?
 
Huy
@IceBoy: The available time per week is greater than 100%.
 
Huy
5:50 PM
@rehband: Did you get your position as a TA in calculus already?
@IceBoy: Sometimes even more.
 
@Huy Haven't applied for it yet -- I think I'm gonna wait another year with that
I wanna grow my powers more first
 
Huy
@rehband: How come?
 
@Anastasiya-Romanova, could you lend a hand for my question too?
:)
 
Huy
I understand. @rehband
 
:)
 
5:51 PM
@nullgeppetto What question?
 
It's above, but it's also here, the secondary one... Thanks!
 
Huy
@rehband: I just found out an old friend started studying physics at my university. Because he just enrolled himself in my linear algebra course. :P
 
@Huy Lol that's funny. Is he a friend from high school or what?
 
Huy
Exactly.
 
What did he do after high school graduation then?
 
Huy
5:53 PM
I always hope to run into familiar faces, but I'm surprised every year. ^w^
 
@nullgeppetto Oh dear, I don't know how to answer it. I don't even know what does the question mean
 
Huy
@rehband: He wasn't in the same grade as I was, plus I think he had to go to the army.
 
Oh
I almost had to go to the army too
 
Huy
How did you get out of it?
 
The year I graduated HS they stopped pulling people in
I got lucky
 
Huy
5:54 PM
I see, awesome. :D
 
@Anastasiya-Romanova, oh you solved a nasty integral, this should be very easy for you! Nevermind, no worries, thanks a lot!
 
@nullgeppetto Sorry. I' haven't taught that subject yet.
 
Huy
I am "unable" to go because of my hay fever. xD
 
hahah :D
 
@Anastasiya-Romanova :)
 
5:56 PM
@nullgeppetto I'm just 14 y.o, not a college student
 
I received a letter saying I will need to go to the army in a few months
Then a few months later they said I don't need to go, the law changed or something
 
@Anastasiya-Romanova, that sounds very promissing! well done!
 
Huy
Yeah, I heard of that.
Good for you.
So did you pass all your exams already? :D
 
:)
Almost. One more next week ( Linear Algebra)
 
Huy
I see. Good luck for that one.
 
5:57 PM
Can't wait for it to be over, then I can prepare for next semester and study some fun limits & series
Thx
 
hi pal @Sabಠ_ಠ
your username^ is too cool
unique
 
Hey @thomasandrews thanks for your edit long ago but I rolled back because I suddenly decided I prefer my formatting. =)
@robjohn I got 1000. Yay!!!
 
6:13 PM
The middle part in Turkish march is crazy to learn.
 
@ArthurFischer what's wrong with having faith in someone?
 
@IceBoy Thanks for the meta post. I hope you don't mind the downvotes on it.
 
@WillHunting You are most welcome pal.
 
@IceBoy I promise to keep this account for life.
 
@WillHunting I believe in you my friend.
let the trolls downvote their lives away
 
6:33 PM
It's good to have some drama on meta, lol.
 
:D
 
@IceBoy Oh, I have faith in @WillHunting. It's everyone else I'm doubtful about.
 
@IceBoy I am not sure how many people actually understand your meta post.
 
@WillHunting you could edit it, or add a comment explaining it.
 
@IceBoy I could add an answer to it and add some drama to the site, lol.
 
6:36 PM
@WillHunting sure
think about it
Greetings
 
Greetings
@Anastasiya-Romanova It's hard to beat me at that integral ... :-)
 
@IceBoy Done, you can accept the answer and the post can then be closed or deleted, lol.
 
@WillHunting do you want that?
 
@IceBoy It's up to the voters. The whole thing is just for fun anyway.
 
@Chris'ssis Greetings
 
6:40 PM
@rehband Greetings :-)
 
:)
How's the research going?
 
@rehband Pretty well, thanks. Yesterday I posted 2 nice problems that come from personal research.
 
@Chris'ssis Excellent. Where did you post them?
 
@Chris'ssis
 
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Q: Closed form of $\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{J_0(2n)}{n^2}$

Chris's sisI'm new in the area of the series involving Bessel function of the first kind. What are the usual tools you would recommend me for computing such a series? Thanks. $$\sum_{n=1}^{\infty} \frac{J_0(2n)}{n^2}$$

:17763309
 
6:43 PM
Hey, everyone.
 
@Chris'ssis Merci
@Khallil Hey Khallil
 
How are you, @rehband?
 
@Khallil Never been better. Working hard, learning many new things. How about you?
 
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Q: Congratulations, Will Hunting

Ice BoyCongratulations on achieving $1,005$ reputation points. Please try your best to not delete this achievement. We have faith in you this time.

I can't believe 3 people downvoted this^ let the trolls downvote their lives away
 
Hi here is a a question from yestarday this says what functions live in $C_b(Q)$ the first idea is just the restriction but there are more, so when I try to find a characteristic a fail any ideas?
 
6:48 PM
@Khallil Great
 
Just kidding.
 
lol
^_^
 
Lol
 
@MikeMiller So I have to shoy that $f\in C_b(Q)$ iff F is uniformly continuous. is what characterizes the functions in $C_b(Q)$ continuous functions form Q to R
 
Seriously, @IceBoy, that is not a cool usage of the site.
 
6:54 PM
Someone knows what kind of weird functions can live in $C_b(Q)$ the space of continuous functions from Q to R, one idea was the restriction but there are more a lot of more. For example if we use the classic construction of a function which is increasing and discontinuous in a countable set and we let this countable set be a subset of the irrationals that function lives there. I'm not sure of what general characteristic the functions in that space have. Anyone?
 
@IceBoy Well, at least everyone seems to like congrats for 100k users. =)
 
@JoseAntonio $Q$ is $\mathbb{Q}$, right? I don't think you can get a better characterisation than "continuous and bounded".
 
yes
so do you think that cannot exist a complete characterization of the $C_b(\mathbb{Q})$ more than the restrcitions and some random functions which can be found, i don't for example sin (1( x-pi)) the increasing functions which is defined as a summation and which is discontinuous in a numerable set, in this case a numerable set of irrationals...
 
Huy
7:10 PM
@Khallil: 'sup.
 
Yo, @Huy!
 
Huy
How are you? Uni started yet?
 
I've not done any math recently, so I haven't had a chance to look at the vector geometry questions I got from you. My last day of work was today and I have a week to get ready to leave for uni next weekend, @Huy. ^_^
 
Huy
So you better get started on those problems !
 
@DanielFischer ted yesterday suggested me to ask hehe
 
7:14 PM
@Chris'ssis You can solve your sum for $J_k(z)$ however it requires solving an integral equation to extract something using fourier. It is hard but doable.
$$\sum_{n=0}^\infty\frac{J_k(2n)}{n^2}$$
 
@Alizter This one is pretty easy.
 
@Chris'ssis o rly?
 
@Alizter look at Oloa's solution
 
@Chris'ssis yes yes.
But extracting f(x) from fourier is not so easy for a general bessel
$J_0$ is a simple case
 
@JoseAntonio You could cheat and say the functions in $C_b(\mathbb{Q})$ are precisely the restrictions of functions in $C(\beta\mathbb{Q})$ - where $\beta X$ is the Stone-ÄŒech compactification of $X$. But since that is almost the definition of the Stone-ÄŒech compactification, that's not really helpful. I don't think you have a chance of characterising $C_b(\mathbb{Q})$ in terms of functions defined on $\mathbb{R}$.
 
7:18 PM
@Alizter Ah, you're referring to the general case ...
 
mhhmm
 
I will, @Huy!
 
Huy
@BalarkaSen: Huy.
 
Hello.
 
Ahoy!
 
Huy
7:21 PM
Good evening, @TedShifrin.
 
Hey @IceBoy
Hello @TedShifrin
 
Halloa below there.
 
Heh.
"below there"
 
Huh ... At the airport and couldn't get a screen to type in ... Hello, all, briefly.
 
It's a Dickens quote, @Balarka.
 
7:26 PM
Balarka believes in illiteracy, @Khallil :)
 
Huy
@BalarkaSen: You don't read?
 
I have never read Dickens.
@Huy Sometimes, yes.
 
only math/science :D
 
@TedShifrin Hey that's not tr... OK, maybe it is true.
No, @TedShifrin. I am reading a bit of Edgar Allan Poe nowadays.
 
See, your life was better when I ignored you :)
 
Huy
7:28 PM
I remember in high school I was being forced into reading Flatland. I think if I reread it now, I would much more enjoy it. ._.
 
@DanielFischer I see, me friend and I, we worked in this problem all the day and didn´t find anything, we ask professor in the university and nothing is somehow disappointing, damn I really wanted to find a characterisation. Thanks :) for your time
 
@TedShifrin Life? Nah, life is already a pain in the neck.
 
@DanielF @Jose No success on the continuous, bounded question?
 
Already, @Balarka?
When I was 14, I was only focused on playing football at lunch and break.
 
I don't do football.
 
7:30 PM
Soccer?
Ha!
 
I don't do soccer.
Either.
 
Huy
@BalarkaSen: Girls? :3
 
I was actually referring to soccer in my first post, but I soon realised that people commonly refer to American football as simply football.
 
throws a table at @Huy
 
Huy
@BalarkaSen: Why do you throw a table at me?
 
7:31 PM
He's into lifting weights.
 
Huy
I see.
I don't even... lift. ._.
 
Can you lift yourself up?
 
He has too many tables blocking him ..
 
@Chris'ssis $$\sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{J_k(2n)}{n^2}=\frac{i^{-k}}{\pi}\int_0^\pi \cos(k\theta)\psi_2(e^{2i\cos\theta})\mathrm d\theta$$
 
Huy
But I did build a whole dinner table from IKEA all by myself yesterday.
 
7:32 PM
Lol Barlaka, do you really lift weights?
I bet I can deadlift more than you =P
 
how many people did you serve dinner on it?
 
@TedShifrin I don't think there's success to be had. $C_b(\mathbb{Q})$ contains pretty wild functions.
 
@Chris'ssis I can't get further than this
 
@Huy That's what a deck transformation says to each other!
 
@Huy Nice work
 
Huy
7:33 PM
@TedShifrin: None. I had to spam F5 in three different browsers afterwards to pre-order the iPhone. :<
 
@rehband I am terribly skinny. I can't even lift a cushion.
Don't believe in rumors.
 
Huy
@BalarkaSen: I used to be terribly skinny as well. Try eating more.
 
Ah @DanielF ... Baire must say something interesting ....
 
I used to be terribly skin as well
 
Eating is waste of time, @Huy
=P
 
7:34 PM
@TedShifrin No success, at least, we found a lot of functions there which are not restriction. But somehow it is disappointing not to find a characterization
 
Huy
@BalarkaSen: If you really think that, you will regret that sooner or later.
 
I know I would.
 
@Huy How much do you weigh at what height now?
 
Huy
@rehband: I'm still a bit too skinny for my taste. I'm around 55kg at 165cm.
I used to have a BMI at around 17, now it's around 20.
(that was at the beginning of 2014)
 
Basal Metabolic Rate?
How do you even measure that?
 
7:36 PM
@Huy I see. Good progress
 
Huy
@BalarkaSen: Balarka must iit.
 
I'm jealous, @Huy ...
 
Huy
@TedShifrin: How so?
 
You're fat, @TedShifrin
 
@BalarkaSen Lol back to ignore
 
7:37 PM
I know, @Balarka
 
Huy
@rehband: I'll start doing some exercise soon, but I want to get a bit more weight first because I'm scared I will lose a lot when I start doing a lot more of physical activity.
 
Back to ignore ... He's totally rude, but right ...
 
@Huy Eh? I must it? It what?
@TedShifrin It was just a compliment!
 
Huy
@BalarkaSen: $1 \neq 2$.
 
Umm, iit?
 
7:40 PM
@Huy I know what you mean...I have trouble gaining any more weight ( no time to cook all day :D )
 
Huy
@rehband: And you can imagine it's hard to implement time for exercise with my schedule. I also don't want to stop playing as much football as I do now (2-3 times per week).
 
@TedShifrin Can you recommend me a book on point-set topology?
 
Huy
@rehband: What's your height/weight right now?
 
I like the one Jasper thinks is terrible.
 
@Huy Are you on a football team? I played for some years
@Huy 191cm, 85kg
 
7:42 PM
@Alizter OK. I won't do any further research on that one now. These days are not my best days at doing that.
 
@TedShifrin Is Munkres OK for me? I mean, I don't have much background in math.
 
Huy
@rehband: No, my parents didn't want me to join one when I was younger because they were overprotective and when I was a bit older, it was too late, because everyone in the clubs seemed to be in there since their childhood. I just play with friends and teachers every week.
 
Not much background in math? Puleeeze .....
 
Huy
@rehband: That would probably make you stronger w.r.t. headers than I am. :P
 
@Huy Yea casual uni soccer matches are super fun. And I'm actually terribly bad at headers :P
I duck away from the ball
 
7:44 PM
@TedShifrin Well, I am only familiar with a bit of algebra.
 
Huy
@rehband: Over here, there are annual football tournaments at each high school as well. As a pupil, I attended every year, and now as a teacher, I joined the teacher's team last year. :P
 
@rehband is not a small guy!
 
@Huy Lol awesome
 
Ok, about to board. Bubye ...
 
Byes @TedShifrin
 
7:46 PM
@TedShifrin Have a safe flight, Ted!
And watch out for snakes on the plane
 
see ya later
 
Huy
@rehband: Uni football matches are usually not so fun over here. At our uni, there are two "leagues" for students, one for "casual" teams and one for "serious" teams, but without any restrictions on "professional" players. A lot of teams in the casual league just consist of all "professional" players thus leaving other - actually - casual teams no chance. I don't really like that.
 
@Khallil what are you doing on MHB?
i can see you online.
 
@Huy Thats no fun
 
I have to go, bye to all. This Tuesday a have my fist exam in algebra. Thanks @TedShifrin and @DanielFischer. I'm somewhat dissapointed that the chances of characterizes the space are almost null
bye
 
7:49 PM
later
 
Huy
@rehband: A German friend of mine recently told me that by now, each of his former male class mates is playing in the Bundesliga, except for himself. He's wondering where he went wrong .___________.'
 
@Huy Whaaat. What school did he go to?!
 
Huy
@rehband: I'm not sure. I don't know him too well, we just chat a lot whenever there's football matches.
 
@Huy Eh? "a is a classmate of b" is a reflexive relation?
 
Huy
@BalarkaSen: Yes.
 
7:51 PM
That's news to me.
 
Huy
@BalarkaSen: I'm a friend of myself. ^w^
Alright, I have to go practice some FIFA14, so one day I will be able to beat @Khallil.
 
@Huy Take care
 
later
Well it got closed :(
 
8:09 PM
@robjohn this evening I show you something completely insane.
 
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Q: Congratulations, Will Hunting

Ice BoyCongratulations on achieving $1,005$ reputation points. Please try your best to not delete this achievement. We have faith in you this time.

 
Hi again, could you please just check whether the "answer" in my secondary question in the end of the question is correct or wrong?
 
14 mins ago, by Ice Boy
Well it got closed :(
1 hour ago, by Ice Boy
I can't believe 3 people downvoted this^ let the trolls downvote their lives away
 
Something strange happened. I am not allowed to login to Math.SE with my account. I can apparently login to chat and MathOverflow. But not to MSE :-(
 
@JyrkiLahtonen What message do you get when you try to log in?
 
8:13 PM
My login OpenID is with Yahoo. The message is something about no OpenID access point or something like that.
 
Hmm, that is weird. Maybe try again later. Might help if you close your browser and try again.
 
Ok. Thanks, @Will.
 
I may misremember, but it could be that Yahoo OpenIDs are no longer accepted. Might be worth searching the SE meta, @JyrkiLahtonen.
 
or use GoogleLogin
 
@DanielFischer But I am assuming he used the same to log in to the other site?
 
8:16 PM
Point, @Will.
 
I can login to MathOverflow. There I see all my accounts. Including this one. I don't have a Google account nor a Facebook account.
 
If the problem persists, try contacting the SE staff to help resolve.
 
@JyrkiLahtonen make a Google account
 
@IceBoy No use. He still has to log in to add that to his list of logins.
 
@WillHunting He can do that in his MO account.
 
8:24 PM
@DanielFischer Hmm, but I am not sure if it is transferable.
 
I think.
 
@JyrkiLahtonen How about the Stackexchange login?
 
No way I will create a Google account! I don't do business with them :-) I tried to login using the Stackexchange login option. I did get a password renewal e-mail. But then it started creating me a new account on Math.SE with 1 rep :-)
 
@JyrkiLahtonen Haha, why do you hate google?
 
So I had to delete cookies. Still get in here. If I try to login to Math.SE then I get that 1 rep account. Google? I won't let them collect data on my browsing habits.
 
8:29 PM
@JyrkiLahtonen Maybe the trouble-shooting tips help?
 
Somebody else there also reports problems with Yahoo. I can go to Yahoo logins and get in, but how is that supposed to help here?
 
@JyrkiLahtonen try contacting the SE staff to help resolve
 
Ah! From that Yahoo site I get a string I can copy/paste. That seems to have worked. Thanks for the link @Daniel!
 
as Will said :-)
 
We'll see how stable this is now. Thanks guys!
 
8:40 PM
thanks for asking
 
Nice, @JyrkiLahtonen. Näkemiin.
 
@Chris'ssis That looks familiar
 
@robjohn Maybe, but it's harder than anything similar I've ever seen, I mean there is no comparison term for that one, it's from another world.
Well, I might tame the beast in some way ...
$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{J_0(2 n \alpha_1 )J_0(2 n \alpha_2 )\cdots J_0(2 n \alpha_k )}{n^2} =\frac{\pi^2}{6}-k(\alpha_1+\alpha_2+\cdots+\alpha_k )+\frac{\alpha_1^2+\alpha_2^2+\cdots +\alpha_k^2}{k}$$
 
9:05 PM
Rare case of serial upvoting? I just got three upvotes, all on old old answers that had exactly 9 upvotes. Seems like someone decided to go around giving out badges.
 
9:19 PM
@robjohn let me know if you have an easy way to compute that integral. The version with only one log is very easy.
 
9:33 PM
@ThomasAndrews 3 is hardly serial
@ThomasAndrews Have you considered that they were browsing your answers and they just happened to like them?
 
All within the span of a minute? @Alizter
 
@ThomasAndrews They are a fast reader ;)
 
I'm not trying to prove anything in court, so, no reason to dishonestly lawyer for somebody we don't know
 
@ThomasAndrews it doesn't matter its just a couple of votes
 
Hello @Alizter
 
9:36 PM
Sure, I'd just never seen the tactic of targeting 9-vote answers to give out badges.
 
@ThomasAndrews I'm gonna give you a badge.
 
That indeed looks like some sneaky way to give out badges @ThomasAndrews
 
I'm kidding.
I am too classy.
@BalarkaSen Today is bessel
I besseled today
looked at bessels
nothing serious
 
I can see that.
Bessels everywhere.
 
@BalarkaSen Have you written that MHB post yet?
 
9:39 PM
Not yet, I am too busy right now. But it'll be there in near future alright.
I am comm. algebrain' hard at the moment.
 
@robjohn I'm done (anyway, I need to optimize what I have and explain some things there)
 
@Alizter
 
10:01 PM
@robjohn I'm pretty confident I can also deal with the 3 log form.
(of course, this one is very advanced)
It's simply awesome ...
 
@BalarkaSen
 
 
1 hour later…
11:16 PM
@DanielFischer
 
11:58 PM
Daaaaaaaaaaaaaaniel.
@DanielFischer
 

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