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11:01 PM
oof, writing surveys are tiresome.
doing mathematics with a pen and a paper while lying in your bed is much comfortable and preferable.
 
I find it monumentally uncomfortable.
Doing math either at a desk or in my head are far better in my opinion.
 
each to his own.
writing surveys about what you know is like doing dishes after the eating.
uggh.
 
That sounds horrific. I loathe having to wash dishes after having just eaten, when all you want to do is savour the meal.
 
me too. but you have to do it sooner or later.
 
Like most things.
T_T
 
11:08 PM
writing papers are absolutely recommended to get started with a math career.
 
So you're writing a paper?
I thought it was a survey.
 
nah, i am writing a survey
 
You know?
The one that asks questions.
Oh, I see. So I'm not losing it.
 
eh?
questions?
 
I thought the purpose of a survey was to collect data by querying the public.
 
11:10 PM
wat
"a general view, examination, or description of someone or something."
 
to my understanding, a survey is a brief description of a certain field or topic you are writing about.
ah.
@Khallil survey is much like a review, only that it's much explicit and larger.
 
Oh. I might need to read a very basic example of one to get a better idea of what it entails.
 
just search for expository articles on a certain something.
 
That sounds like my kinda writing.
 
11:17 PM
really?
 
Yea, really.
 
@MrWho what does a winner get?
 
I enjoy reading stuff that doesn't assume prior knowledge.
 
@Khallil oh i see.
 
@BalarkaSen it's easier sooner
 
11:19 PM
It's so much more important to be able to explain things easily, as opposed to convoluting concepts in ridiculous symbols that only those who've taken the time out to learn can understand.
 
@robjohn ah?
 
Continuous prose is infinitely better than a symbolic explanation. Or at least that I've found that to be the case in the abysmal books that I've read thus far.
 
@Khallil i've done my best here
 
@BalarkaSen do you not see where the comment is targeted? you should be able to click on the arrow at the left of the comment to bring the targeted comment up.
 
Ah, OK. Sorry for being ignorant about that arrow.
 
11:21 PM
@BalarkaSen Looks interesting! I didn't know that you had an account on there. I sometimes check that forum out for the advanced integration techniques.
 
@BalarkaSen the comment linking is the only way a bunch of conversations can be sorted out here. I use it a lot
 
@Khallil that's an interesting coincidence. what's your username there?
 
@BalarkaSen I'm not a member there. I was linked to it by another forum that I've recently permanently banned myself from. I wasted way too much time on there.
 
@Khallil another forum? let me guess. Integral & Series?
 
@BalarkaSen Nope, never heard of that forum. It's not a strictly math forum. It had a bunch of other sub forums as well. Could you link me to Integral & Series?
 
@BalarkaSen Ah thanks. I'll check it out now.
I don't think I'll be making any more accounts now, though.
There are integration contests!
 
hello professor @TedShifrin
@Khallil haha. i have absolute self discipline about the forums.
well, except for MSE chat.
 
Naturally.
Tips fedora
 
Hello
 
Oh hello @Charlie
long time.
 
11:31 PM
Yes
 
Hullo, @Charlie.
 
Hi @khallil
 
@Charlie a minion? lamest. avatar. ever.
 
I was just silently loathing that avatar.
You speak my mind, @BalarkaSen.
 
Hey
 
11:34 PM
@Khallil You did see Despicable Me, then?
 
Anybody there?
 
Hey @MrWho
 
@BalarkaSen Oh Balarka!
How are you?
 
No just kids
 
@BalarkaSen Nope. It was just the fact that you called it the lamest avatar ever that triggered my response.
 
11:34 PM
@MrWho good, good. how about you?
 
@Charlie I resent that.
 
@BalarkaSen Fine.
 
@MrWho Halloa! Below there!
 
Guys, please don't laugh, but it seems I doubt about the definition of an angle in Geometry :|
@Khallil Hey !
 
I am not laughing.
 
11:35 PM
Me neither.
 
I doubt about the whole Euclidean geometry.
It's a pack of rubbish without metric-based definitions.
 
@BalarkaSen @Khallil Any explanation of angle? don't refer me to wikipedia because I doubt it too!
 
@MrWho what is the definition you have in mind that you doubt?
 
@BalarkaSen Eulidean Geometry is used in many proofs and places.In addition, I'm trying to prepare for a math competition, so I need it regardless of what I believe it is.
 
I've never actually seen a definition of it. I've just come to believe that it's a measure of the inclination between two rays.
It's a weird one. I usually use the word angle when defining an angle, but that's circular and incorrect.
 
11:38 PM
Lame definition. Define them by vector dot products.
 
@BalarkaSen Indeed, nothing clear.My question is, what is the space between two lines? what is the definition of the space between two lines that Eulidean geometry refers to?
 
$\vec{u} \cdot \vec{v} = |u| |v| \cos(\theta)$
 
@BalarkaSen Yea, but then you'd have to define the cosine function.
 
@Khallil series definition.
pick the standard once rather than the intuitive once.
 
@BalarkaSen but the $ \theta $ used there is in radian, right?
 
11:40 PM
I don't think radians are the issue.
 
what about degree?
 
You can just associate $2\pi$ radians with $360^{\circ}$.
 
right.
the usual similar triangle construction.
 
I mean, I feel like a crap, when someone says the angle size is ... without any doubt in his mind, I sort of find myself having unnecessary paranoia.
 
@MrWho Do you want to intuitively understand what is an angle, or rigorify it?
 
11:41 PM
@Khallil Then, what is one degree? it becomes circular, because again, you refer to the angle measurement.
@BalarkaSen ^
@BalarkaSen Both!
@BalarkaSen @Khallil The main problem is, what is the definition of space between two rays? you know, when you get closer to the vertex, the space gets smaller, but the angle remains the same?why? @robjohn
 
@MrWho that's precisely the definition of angles.
 
@BalarkaSen You mean, what I already said?
 
they are invariant upto the "zoom-in" and "zoom-out" operations of yours.
 
@MrWho Angles are invariant to scaling.
 
and experts agree with me!
 
11:48 PM
@BalarkaSen @robjohn I still feel confused, I have to buy a protractor
@BalarkaSen Don't pull his leg :)
 
@MrWho I'm not.
 
:D
 
I am merely pointing out that @robjohn and I agree upon the fact that angles are defined to be invariant to scaling.
 
@BalarkaSen I know, I was just joking.
 
Angles can be measured by taking a string of length $r$ and dragging it through the angle and measuring the area swept out. The angle is $\dfrac{2A}{r^2}$
 
11:51 PM
@robjohn Any picture?
 
or angles can be measured by taking a string of length $r$ and dragging it through the angle and measuring the distance the end travels. The angle is $\dfrac{D}{r}$
 
What is an angle, @robjohn?
 
@BalarkaSen How it comes that you love number theory?
 
@Khallil a measure of how far apart things are when projected onto a unit sphere
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@MrWho Because I don't like geometry.
 
11:54 PM
@BalarkaSen I tried several times to get into it, but I quit, found it boring, specially the starting point.
 
@robjohn I think so too. I feel like there should be a more elaborate definition for it, however.
 
@robjohn that's probably the only valid definition.
 
@robjohn Seriously cool statement!
 
@MrWho it's a projective geometry definition though.
 
@BalarkaSen It's more intuitive.
 
11:55 PM
true enough.
@MrWho which book did you use while studying NT?
 
@BalarkaSen Do you know maryam mirza khani?
@ ba
 
Recently heard about her.
An Iranian fields medalist.
 
@BalarkaSen I read her book, when she had written after getting gold medal in olympiad.
 
@MrWho She wrote a book in NT?
 
@BalarkaSen However, the books is not good for intro.Yeah, she wrote it.
 
11:59 PM
Never heard about it. She is a geometer though, so I wouldn't prefer that book.
 

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