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12:15 AM
@what'sup correct
@Ethan Didn't we do this a week ago?
@TheoretiCAL Both are $e^{\log(x)\log(y)}$
 
@robjohn what
 
@Ethan the sum I linked to...
$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{n^{2013}}{e^{2\pi n}-1}=\frac{\zeta(2014)(2013)!}{(2\pi)^{2014}}$$
 
yea
chris wasn't on
then*, it was originally for him
 
okay, I see
 
It was a special case of the more general,
If $k>1$, $k\equiv 1 \text{ mod 4}$, then
$$\sum_{n=1}^\infty\frac{n^k}{e^{2\pi n}-1}=\int_{0}^\infty\frac{t^k}{e^{2\pi t}-1}dt=\frac{\zeta(k+1)\Gamma(k+1)}{(2\pi)^{k+1}}$$
Which can be interpreted nicely as,
$$\int_{0}^\infty\frac{\lfloor{t}\rfloor^k}{e^{2\pi \lfloor{t}\rfloor}-1} dt=\int_{0}^\infty\frac{t^k}{e^{2\pi t}-1}dt$$
Though I still see no way to prove either in an elementry way, though there easily seen equivilent
I might pose the question in terms of asking to show the equivilence of those two integrals
perhaps someone can prove it an elementry way
 
1:12 AM
$$\dot x=f_1(x,y)=-\frac{\partial{f}}{\partial{x}}(x,y)$$
Why the minus sign!?
 
@AlecTeal You mad?
 
@PeterTamaroff kind of, wtf is that?
 
@AlecTeal The fuck is what?
 
The minus sign!
 
Context?
 
1:16 AM
Critical points.
 
Keep it coming.
 
2:05 AM
If your closed integration contour cuts exactly through a simple pole then you pick up half the residue at the pole, correct?
 
@KevinDriscoll Dunno.
 
@PeterTamaroff No complex analysis for you??
 
@KevinDriscoll Nope. =)
 
@PeterTamaroff Why not? It's so NIFTY!
 
@KevinDriscoll Give me some time, dude.
Cannot be learning everything at once.
 
2:07 AM
@PeterTamaroff Haha okay. You'll probably learn more complex analysis in a week then I have in my life
 
I will prolly be studying CA in my uni not the next semester, but the other.
I have to take Advanced Calc, and I think then I can take CA.
Yep.
 
I see. Based on what I've seen you do so far I'm not sure what calculus you have left ot learn
 
The prereqs are Linear Algebra, Analisis II and Advanced Calculus. I am taking those two this semester.
@KevinDriscoll So what are you integrating?
 
@PeterTamaroff It's a nasty expression involving the finite part of a divergent integral
 
@KevinDriscoll Heh, LOL. I just realized I know the topics of Advanced Calc, so I'm kinda ready to go. =P
@KevinDriscoll Oh. Let's see it.
 
2:16 AM
$$Z\int_0^{\infty} \frac{K_1(\beta \sqrt{(x^2 + (i y)^2})}{\sqrt{2 (x^2 + (i y)^2)}} x^{\mu-1} dx$$
 
@KevinDriscoll $K$ is an elliptic or some nasty stuff?
 
$K_1(x)$ is the 1st order modified Bessel function of the 2nd kind
$x$ and $y$ are real, $\beta$ is a positive constant and $\mu$ is an arbitrary complex number
 
@KevinDriscoll Ah, right.
Bessel.
 
How do I do links here?
 
[alt-text](link)
 
2:19 AM
Thank you. This is actually a Mellin Transform
As you can see though there is a simple pole at $x=y$ which would be a problem for an ordinary Mellin Transform, but here $Z$ indicates taking the finite part of the integral
 
@KevinDriscoll Right.
@KevinDriscoll Why don't you write $x^2-y^2$?
 
Ah, just a quirk. It's because the Mellin Transform of this expression is known if instead of $i y$ we have $\epsilon + iy$ with $\epsilon >0$
So I write it that way just out of habit of thinking about that form
 
@KevinDriscoll To what class of functions is the MT applicable?
 
@PeterTamaroff A pretty wide range. Basically, you take the Mellin Transform of a function and then figure out where in the complex plane it is analytic
So something like $\frac{1}{1+x^2}$ has a well-known mellin transform, but it is only analytic in the strip $0<Re(s)<2$ if $s$ is the variable we are Mellin Transforming to
 
@KevinDriscoll Right, but the $x^{s-1}$ should be problematic, right?
 
2:26 AM
@PeterTamaroff Exactly. So in my example if $Re(s) >2$ then the function does not decrease quickly enough to be integrable
 
@KevinDriscoll Right.
 
It is mostly USEFUL for function where there is some kind of scaling symmetry. So in my example you can see that the argument of Bessel function is multiplied by $\beta$
Taking the mellin transform makes it so that $x$ and $\beta$ no longer appear as a product, which is useful for making an approximation like $\beta << 1$
Otherwise you have to worry about "well, $\beta$ is small but maybe x is large so . . ."
 
I'm trying to solve a problem in P&S now. Suppose that $\langle t_n\rangle $ is a sequence of numbers such that there exist another sequence of positive numbers $\langle \varepsilon_n\rangle $ converging to zero and $$ t_{n+1}>t_n-\varepsilon_n$$ Then $\langle t_n \rangle $ is everywhere dense between $\overline{\lim}_{n\to\infty}t_n$ and $\underline{\lim}_{n\to\infty}t_n$
@KevinDriscoll OK.
 
@PeterTamaroff I'm not sure what the overline notation means
 
@KevinDriscoll It is a way I like to denote $\limsup$ and $\liminf$.
 
2:31 AM
@PeterTamaroff Ah okay, that was my best guess
 
You can find it in Spivak, say. Don't know who else uses it.
 
Is the problem to show that the statement is true or is there something further?
 
@PeterTamaroff for any $x$ in the range, pick an $\epsilon\gt0$ then choose an $n$ so that $\varepsilon\lt\epsilon$
 
@robjohn Yeah, I have written something.
There are some details that I have to fill out that might mess things up, or not.
 
@PeterTamaroff I don't mean to bore you with bessel functions and contours in the plane, but if you want to take a look at what I'm trying to get away with you can find it here at the bottom
 
2:37 AM
"Evernote Service is unavailable"
 
@PeterTamaroff Wow it JUST threw that error. I just pulled this up not 20 seconds ago.
Perhaps later it will be back up and I'll post again. Should have some more at that point.
(also you can see my previous failed ideas, please don't tell anyone!)
 
@KevinDriscoll LAWL, now I can see it.
So, its a page where you can jot down stuff? Cool.
 
@PeterTamaroff It's actually a program where I can collect all my notes and calculations and then it syncs to a server that can be accessed if you know the address
 
@KevinDriscoll I can see it. I think I finally discovered worse handwriting than my own. :)
 
@KarlKronenfeld Haha indeed. Also don't forget that I am writing on a graphics table that is only 5" x 7" but it mapped to my entire laptop screen, so any wobble or mistake is magnified
 
2:50 AM
@KevinDriscoll Ah, didn't realize that. I am scared of what hieroglyphs would appear if I tried it.
 
3:05 AM
Pardon the stupid question, but I believe that $$(x(1+i\alpha))^{\mu-1} = x^{\mu-1}(1+i\alpha)^{\mu-1}$$ for $x>0, \alpha>0$. Is that right?
And $\mu$ is an arbitrary complex number
 
3:24 AM
@TedShifrin Heeeeeeeey.
 
@PeterTamaroff Don't scare him off :-P
 
@PeterTamaroff well played, psycho ex-girlfriend
 
@KevinDriscoll She's amazingly cute, though. Pity internet got her.
 
@PeterTamaroff Did they track her down?
 
3:35 AM
@KevinDriscoll Just saying she turned into a meme, and stuff.
 
Ah yeah. A friend of mine is a lesser-known derivative meme that is still somewhat popular
 
@KevinDriscoll ORLY?
 
@KevinDriscoll Ha! And how does she feel about it?
 
I think she enjoys it. I'm pretty sure she hasn't been tracked down by reddit either.
 
3:42 AM
@KevinDriscoll Ah.
@KevinDriscoll Do you know the story of the photo?
 
@PeterTamaroff I believe the story is she already had the hat and then took the photo for a class project somehow related to the internet and/or memes
But I'm not 100% sure
Someone posted it to reddit. I think someone I know. But I don't remember who
@PeterTamaroff I also met this guy last week. (note the view count)
 
@KevinDriscoll I have a personal rejection for such speeches. I will try to hear it all.
 
@PeterTamaroff It gets better
 
I will die of corny-overdose.
 
@PeterTamaroff Indeed. I still lol'd.
 
3:50 AM
@KevinDriscoll I would tell them something like. "Prepare your souls. They'll be eaten."
 
@TheoretiCAL A little proud of the Berkeley, eh?
 
haha I think we would give similar speeches @PeterTamaroff
 
@AlexYoucis Yo! How did prelims go?
@KevinDriscoll "I used to be a happy man..."
 
@PeterTamaroff This appeals to me greatly--thoughts? youtube.com/watch?v=O4zi1Z-vIAo Start at 1:10
@PeterTamaroff They're dead Jim.
 
@AlexYoucis Doesn't get reference.
 
3:54 AM
@PeterTamaroff It's from Star Trek. I killed them was the point.
 
@AlexYoucis Aw, yiss.
Of course you did.
Did you kill them dead?
 
@PeterTamaroff It was pretty easy. You can see it here: math.berkeley.edu/sites/default/files/pages/exam_2.pdf
sure did, son.
 
@AlexYoucis I'm reading a proof of Jacobi's QR. Not sure about a detail.
 
What's Jacobi's QR? Just QR?
 
@AlexYoucis OK, it is just a QR "Lemma". If $m$ is odd and positive $$\left(\frac{-1}m\right)=(-1)^{\frac{m-1}2}$$
 
3:58 AM
What's the problem?
 
So Landau notes that if $u,u'$ are odd then $(u'-1)(u-1)=0\mod 4$;and then writes $uu'-1=(u-1)+(u'-1)\mod 4$
 
@KevinDriscoll you know who took Memehood badly? Famously Barbra Strisand, but also Scumbag Steve.
 
@AlecTeal Is that right? I wasn't aware that 'Steve' wasn't keen on it
 
Oh yeah, he released a rap video in protest and everything.
 
4:01 AM
@AlexYoucis Well, I might have my brain in off mode but shouldn't it be $uu'+1$?
 
@AlexYoucis Kudos to you. I couldn't solve most of those problem cold, right now. Thankfully I think it wouldn't take much study for me to get there but still
@AlecTeal It sounds like 'Steve' doesn't understand how the internet works...
 
@KevinDriscoll you'd think that Bear Grills or however you spell it guy would be upset, but I have a feeling that he wanted it all along. Dontcha just love happy endings?
@KevinDriscoll you didn't get that Barbra reference did you?
 
$(u'-1)(u-1)=uu'-u-u'+1$. So, $uu'=u+u'-1$ so $uu'-1=u+u'-2=(u-1)+(u'-1)$?
@PeterTamaroff
 
Have a look at the Barbra Strisand (again, unsure of spelling) effect. Basically a guy uploaded a picture of a house by the beach, it had 4 views, then 10 views (6 were lawyers) then they issued a take-down notice, then the Internet found out and made it hugely popular. @KevinDriscoll
 
@AlexYoucis Oh, sorry.
Nevermind, moving on.
 
4:03 AM
@KevinDriscoll Yeah, they're not too bad--especially in recent years. Some of the old ones were annoying,
 
AH YES! @AlecTeal I ahve heard of this picture
 
@PeterTamaroff No biggi.e
 
@AlexYoucis Does the first line of 9A have a typo?
 
@AlexYoucis Here they have done away with prelims for physics PhD students because they found that GRE scores were so highly correlated with passing the prelim that it was basically a wasted 6 months of study for the students
 
Or am I just not figuring out what "its" refers to?
 
4:05 AM
@KarlKronenfeld No, it's asking for a group such that $Z(G/Z(G))$ is non-trivial. The obvious example being any non-abelian simple group, such as $A_5$.
 
@KevinDriscoll another good example is Microsoft when talking about the XBone (XBox One) they'd just sort of mumble, the the Internet-shit storm that followed (and a 800% jump in Wii U sales, and trolling from Sony) kicked their ass, having said that I am still disgusted and don't want the first company to be involved with NSA's PRISM project to have a camera in my room. ->
Nor do I want to dance to turn the bugger on, having a remote control and the ability to turn the console off by the pad was the dream.
 
@AlexYoucis Heh, OK. The rest is really nice.
 
@AlexYoucis Ah, I put the parentheses in the wrong order: Z(G)/Z(G). I do that kind of thing all the time.
 
I didn't like the second season @PeterTamaroff, I loved the first.
 
@KarlKronenfeld Yeah, I actually misread that on the exam too. I also languished over finding the $H$. Eventually I just said $F_2$, and showed that $F_2F_2'\supset F_2''\supset\cdots$.
 
4:07 AM
Now for a maths question, when finding the intersection between a plane and a sphere, is there a "formal method" because it seems to pop up a lot on papers, I would simply: ->
Just solve the equations (the sphere and the plane) then tidy it up and parameterise if the Q asked.
 
@PeterTamaroff I do really like that show. I liked Season 1 better I think.
 
Provided there were no obvious short-cuts, like the plane going through the origin, and the sphere about the origin, and such.
@AlexYoucis I didn't like being able to recognise the characters. I think that made it seem .... it broke the 4th wall so to speak.
 
@AlexYoucis I am not sure which season I liked best. I loved the oldish setting in the second.
 
@AlecTeal Yeah, it's a little unique in that way, but it's ok with me
 
@AlexYoucis what's that a response to?
 
4:10 AM
@AlecTeal The recurring characters with different settings bit.
 
@AlecTeal Sorry I don't know of any cuter way than to plug and chug
 
Guys seriously, if f=c and g=e^x, what differential operator is fg afraid of?
It's on an exam, I sense a crap joke but I don't get it.
 
@AlecTeal Here
 
I find the lecture's persistent attempts to add fun and humor quite disheartening.
 
@AlecTeal $\partial/\partial t$, say.
 
4:19 AM
"Design a roller-coaster with at least one loop the loop that is continuous and smooth"
 
@AlexYoucis I forgot what you worked on.
 
Hey guys, pull all nighter trying to work -> nearly crap yourself at alarm. amirite?
Especially when the computer is set to go off at 0525 with the Lion King sound track, silence, then suddenly TARDIKENYA.....
 
@AlecTeal I have the unfortunate habit of not waking up in those situations, but my undergarments remain excriment free
 
user87637
@KevinDriscoll You misspelled excrement.
 
:-)
 
4:30 AM
@jasper hello, so nice of you to stop by :-P
 
user87637
@PeterTamaroff Wow, that's my type of girl.
 
@Jasper Do you really think pscho girls are your type?
 
user87637
@skullpatrol Wait, what do you mean? I did not watch the movie.
 
nvm
 
4:51 AM
@Jasper Here is what I mean.
 
$n^n grows faster than n!$ as $n \to \infty$ right
 
yes
 
tnx tnx
 
5:13 AM
HAHA! Success! My jaunt into the complex plane has yielded a closed-form expression for the nasty integral!
 
Orly?
@KevinDriscoll the bounty integral?
 
@skullpatrol No, sadly not but something related
I am investigating going to the complex plane in that case and seeing if it will help
 
related is good :-)
 
@skullpatrol If you can read my nasty digital handwriting and want to check it out its [here]( evernote.com/shard/s266/sh/2b7f077c-87e2-4f7b-aa8f-df867af1712d/…) down near the bottom (looks for the red ink paragraph)
How do I link again? [text](link) right?
 
right
all on one line
 
5:22 AM
But it doesn't fit
There we go
 
with no extra spaces...
inside[] or ()
 
So that is my triumph for the evening. I hope that tomorrow I find that it will be useful.
 
Sleep on it...
 
I shall soon. This integral is part of the Mellin Transform of the integral equation that was the original form of the integral equation that you put the bounty on
The one you put the bounty on and this original one are related by a weird kind of transform themselves, called the Kontorovich-Lebedev Transform
 
...interesting
 
5:37 AM
@skullpatrol If by interesting you mean tedious and probably irrelevant, then YES!
 
@skullpatrol I still have not understood why the Kontorovich-Lebedev transform is useful in this problem. It was developed and usually appears in solving the Laplace Equation in polar coordinates over a wedge-shaped domain
 
hello
 
hello
 
But this problem involves solving the Schrodinger equation in 6 dimensions
howdy Twink
 
5:39 AM
they banned me from the chat
i dont know why D:
 
this chat?
 
yes
it said i couln't chat for 3 hours
because of a moderator
 
don't worry about it...I have been banned for longer
 
why?
 
It's just politics.
 
5:42 AM
@Twink You were suspended for 2 reasons, (1) being a bit rude to a couple people (you weren't INCREDIBLY rube, but you were a bit) and (2) frequently steering the conversation toward sexuality which is fine to discuss every now and then but not as an all the time thing
You were actually suspended by a mod from another stackexchange site
 
which site?
this is the only one i use
 
Other mods saw that you had accumulated some flags from users. The flags are global across all sites
 
Try using using "politically" correct language @Twink would be my advice, pal
 
so all mods can see them even if you only use 1 site
 
ok
and which site is that?
 
5:45 AM
which site was the mod from?
 
yes
 
ummmm high rep user on StackOverflow and Anime and Manga, I believe
 
lol
i'm glad i don't like anime and manga :S
that is so freaky xD
 
Acting above age 12 is also a decent advice.
 
excuse me??
do i know you?
@N3buchadnezzar ??
i had never seen you before
this is not fair they banned me only because i'm gay
 
5:48 AM
@Twink If you start with that, excuse my language, bullshit you will just get suspended again. I told you EXACTLY why you got suspended.
 
4 mins ago, by skullpatrol
Try using using "politically" correct language @Twink would be my advice, pal
 
I don't mean to be rude, but its the honest truth
 
:''''(
i haven't used any incorrect langague
gay is not an incorrect word
 
yes, but try to be less "defensive"
 
ok :(
i won't defend myself no more
 
5:51 AM
cool :-)
 
A burnt child dreads the fire
 
@Twink do you know how to use the "ignore" button?
 
I asked a question I feel is quite important a few days ago and got an answer some believe is a good one, but I would like some second opinions or references before I mark the question as answered. You can find the question here: /questions/482726/would-proof-of-legendres-conjecture-also-prove-riemanns-hypothesis
 
no
 
@Twink You seem to have legitimate math questions and things to contribute which is great. The sooner you allow your sexuality to be as much of a non-issue as it is to all of us the smoother it'll be. I agree with @skullpatrol that you can feel free to ignore anyone you think is attacking you.
 
5:54 AM
ok :(
i'm sorry :(
 
@Twink it's quite simple, you just click the user's name and then click ignore
anyway folks, it is bed time for me
goodnight
 
later
 
ok goodnight Kevin
 
@PeterTamaroff remember from American Horror Story, the first season
That "quaking in my Loafers" thing was brilliant.
 
I like the character Chad Warwick of American Horror Story
and Patrick too
 
6:04 AM
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Ryan Murphy is a genius
he creater american horror story and glee too
 
I live in a cave; never seen either one.
I prefer Firefly... it's like a parasite on everything useful I could do with my time.
 
:S
so how did you get the internet if you live in a cave?
 
I got a smart phone. Those things get service everywhere...
But seriously though, when you grow up in a "publicly designated place", you might as well have lived in a cave.
 
:S i don't understand
 
6:11 AM
A huddle of people running from city taxes all park their trailers on a pile of dust 45 minutes from any semblance of civilization and give it a name without incorporating.
 
you are crazy
good bye
 
later
 
Have fun. I'm out as well, unless someone knows of anything about the prime numbers that, if proven, would prove the RH?
I read |Li(x) - pi(x)| <= c(sqrt(x) log(x)) for some c is equivalent, but does this mean that, if it were proven, the RH would be too? This whole equivalence thing is a bugger, as I thought it meant that a proof on one would prove the other, either way.
 
that is correct
 
@Adam yes
 
6:16 AM
an easier way maybe is in terms of the liouville function l(x) = number of prime factors of x counting multiplicity
define L(x) = sum(i <= x: l(x))
 
I've not heard of that one; I'll write that down. Been studying this like mad lately. Obsessively. Won't go anywhere, but dang fun.
 
then RH iff L(x) = O(sqrt(x))
it is easy to prove with mellin transform
you can use moebius function mu and mertens function M instead
 
the $x^{\theta}$ term comes from the contribution of the real part of the zeros of the reimann zeta function, and the logarithmic factor accounts for the number of them
 
154
A: Examples of apparent patterns that eventually fail

Peter TamaroffI'll hereby translate an entry in the blog Gaussianos ("Gaussians") about Polya's conjecture, titled: A BELIEF IS NOT A PROOF. We'll say a number is of even kind if in its prime factorization, an even amount of primes appear. For example $6 = 2\cdot 3$ is a number of even kind. And we'll say...

actually i think it's L(x) = O(x^(1/2+e)) for all e > 0 not exactly the same as what i said
 
Sorry; had to put my kid to bed. So my problem, I take it, is that the "error term" approach is not the same as showing that the gap between consecutive primes is no bigger than the square root of the first, right?
 
6:26 AM
what?
Even assuming the RH I don't think there are very good upper bound estimates on prime gaps to be honest
 
True.
 
I don't know
For a fact though
 
(removed)
 
cramer showed RH implies prime gaps are O(sqrt(n) log(n))
but he conjectured they are really O(log(n)^2)
 
lol
thats a big jump in orders
 
6:32 AM
yup
 
Very true, but the heuristics support it.
 
also funny because all the numerical evidence still supports it afaik
 
Thats what wikipedia says..
 
although i think some holes have been poked in his model
makes you think RH is actually very weak
 
As far as anyone knows. They've run computers into the ground looking at that problem, mind included.
 
6:33 AM
maybe factoring can be done in polynomial time etc.
for example if prime gaps are in O(log(n)^k) for some k (much weaker than cramer's conjecture) then the next prime after n can be found in polynomial time because we can just test each one with the AKS algorithm
not quite the same as factoring but makes ya wonder
 
While AKS is deterministic, I'm not sure if it's as fast as other algorithms that depend on the RH.
 
idk enough about cct or current algorithms to really comment
 
okay but afaik prime gaps in O(log(n)^k) doesn't even require RH
 
Im sure many run on heurstic running time though, so I don't think the truth would neccisarly help that much
 
implication is the other direction :)
connection between RH and prime gaps is subtle
 
6:38 AM
Either way, I don't think all numbers will be able to be factored in polynomial time given a proof of the RH; instead, I think highly composite numbers would be, moderately composite would be partially factorable in p, but those which are almost prime would not be factorable at all with the exception of a few.
 
i don't know if RH helps with nextprime problem at all
as far as placing it in P anyway
 
That's my problem; can't get it with prime gaps, so you ave to go at it directly from the error term of the prime number theorem (or some similar formula).
 
well i think cramer's conjecture is a very reasonable assumption just like rh is
so if you have an alg whose perf depends on it that is still really cool
 
As do I, though it's somewhat difficult algebraically. I like the O(root(p)) one better from that point of view, and I think it will be the first to be proven.
 
but i think it is still open if there is any constant
 
6:42 AM
for what
 
oh that is the stieltjes conjecture
that M(n) = O(sqrt(n))
not exactly the same M(n) = O(n^(1/2+e)) which is RH
i think that is open
 
That one is open, as far as I know. I believe I read that from Terry Tao's blog, though it wasn't TT who wrote it.
 
but mertens conjecture |M(n)| < sqrt(n) is disproven
 
So: no real connection between the gap problem and the RH, though obviously a consistently overlarge or too minute gap would be evidence against.
I'll mark my question as answered then, though the answer itself is a touch vague; thanks for the help.
 
anyway i think it is interesting that it is seemingly consistent to be skeptical about RH and also believe prime gaps are O(log(n)^k) for some k
because all RH implies is the much weaker statement that prime gaps are O(sqrt(n) log(n)) and there isn't a very strong implication in the other direction either unless k is too small
 
6:49 AM
What was throwing me is that it's the same "big O" for both the gap problem and the prime number theorem error term problem, which got me thinking the two problems were one and the same.
 
wikipedia seems to indicate that the truth of RH would imply some better then current known estimates
 
well sure without RH we don't even know that prime gaps are O(sqrt(n) log(n))
 
there we go, $g(n)=O(\sqrt{n}\ln(n)$ like you said
 
i dunno what is actually known
about prime gaps
maybe they are O(n^(3/5)) or something :)
 
lol
 
6:52 AM
weak
 
$$\frac{1}{\pi}=\frac{1}{3}-8\sum_{n=1}^\infty e^{-2\pi n^2}n\coth(\pi n)-2\sum_{n=1}^\infty e^{-2\pi n^2}\text{csch}(\pi n)^2$$
Is a q series transformation of the nice identity, $$\sum_{n=1}^\infty \frac{n}{e^{2\pi n}-1}=\frac{1}{24}-\frac{1}{8\pi}$$
The first 3 terms give 17 correct digits lol
 
I think O(sqrt(p_{n-1})) is provable for all x <= p_n; this is just a guess at the moment, but that looks like an easy enough target.
 
@DanBrumleve did I show you this nice elementry telescoping sum
 
wait, wrote that wrong; ignore the subscripts. Both the same p.
 
$$\frac{1}{\ln(q)}=\sum_{n=-\infty}^\infty\frac{2^n}{q^{2^n}+1}$$
for |q|>1
 
6:56 AM
Well, I'd better run. Thanks a million y'all, it's refreshing chatting with people who know more about this stuff than I do yet.
 
later
 
l8r
 
l8s
i think this is pretty wild math.stackexchange.com/a/111939/1284
seems really unlikely, evidence against the cramer probablistic model?
 
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