The Bridge

SaintWacko

3:08 PM

So who's in charge of creating things like the offline page?

hm

There's a typo on it

what just happened

@OrigamiRobot This is done.

kalina

who didn't feed the hamsters?

SaintWacko

3:09 PM

Help, I can't talk!

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

I think we lost some messages in there

Database migration, I'm guessing

OrigamiRobot

pong

fbueckert

Well, that was fun.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Hmmmmm

Weird

kalina

@YiJiang'sEvilClone yeah about ~15 messages

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

3:14 PM

The messages are getting through, but the client doesn't seem to get a response from the server

badp

ping

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Oh no wait, that's just because Websockets are failing for me again

I think

OrigamiRobot

@badp That's a time travel joke.

badp

Now we just need robot--- oh wait.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Yeah, no, one of the responses after new message isn't coming through for me

badp

3:16 PM

@ORIGAMIROBOT CONFIRMED TO BE RONDO

SaintWacko

Hey, the bridge is back!

Also, who's in charge of the down for maintenance page?

There's a typo on it

fredley

Was on error page, refreshing, not realising that it was an error url rather than just Bridge failing

5

OrigamiRobot

@fredley ... me too

SaintWacko

@fredley Nice

Lazers

0

Q: Undiggable area even though I have proper skill

OK, one vid is worth 1000 words: This is in Kamui. Cherry Bomb did not have any effect either. I do know it's the entra...

OrigamiRobot

3:23 PM

@SaintWacko Are you home?

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot Nope, work

Why?

Ladineko

yay surpassed the 1k of total reputation :D

43 more to go to surpass @fredley xD

OrigamiRobot

@SaintWacko No reason.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot ...oKAY...

Unionhawk

3:34 PM

@YiJiang'sEvilClone ...

badp

...fanfic material, I see

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Nah, just vector practice. I haven't touched Photoshop's pen tool in a really long time

OrigamiRobot

@SaintWacko Testing...

fredley

I need one more flag to get 1000

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot looks around suspiciously

Unionhawk

3:41 PM

are we back for real this time?

SaintWacko

@Unionhawk The server is currently down for maintenance. Service should return in approximately 1 minute(s). Please try again then.

fbueckert

Wow, SE's hamsters are having an epileptic fit today.

5

OrigamiRobot

@SaintWacko You didn't say the right thing.

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot It's hard to say the right thing, considering that the right thing is appended onto the user's message

fbueckert

Have the hamster been cured of their seizures now?

OrigamiRobot

3:46 PM

@SaintWacko eH?

DAMN YOU CAPS LOCK

fbueckert

Wee, twitchy hamsters make for fun!

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot hEHE

Wups

fbueckert

@SaintWacko Given X3 a shot yet?

OrigamiRobot

@SaintWacko You were supposed to say "at work"

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Here it is blown up to 4k by 4k, to check for vectoring errors i.stack.imgur.com/HnKS9.png

FAE

3:52 PM

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Of the bottom 3 eyelashes on the right eye (her left), the top one's angled slightly so the corner is slightly into the white of her eye

Fluttershy

@OrigamiRobot I turned off Vacation Mode since I seem to be the only one actively paying attention to it. lol

OrigamiRobot

@Fluttershy THIS IS ACCEPTABLE TO ME

fredley

@YiJiang'sEvilClone Oh dear god why did I click

Lazers

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Q: Why does Jungle Strike for Genesis(Mega Drive) has a different cartridge size?

Why does Jungle Strike for Genesis(Mega Drive) have a different cartridge size? Jungle Strike Cartridge: "Normal" USA/EUROPE Cartridge: Edit: after some research, I did find and remembered that there was a lot of other games which have the same size. Almost, if not all of them, from EA. ...

genesis

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Q: Force Client Window to be rendered to bigger screen

So i have 2 Screens. one smaller and one larger. i made the smaller one my main screen and started LOL. then i took the patcher to the larger screen. after pressing play, the PVP.NET-Client was rendered to my Main Screen (the smaller) again. Again i moved him to the larger screen. when the game s...

league-of-legends windows-8

fbueckert

@Lazers Not really a fan; seems to be more trivia than anything useful.

OrigamiRobot

3:56 PM

@fredley YOU HAVE CLICKING PROBLEMS TODAY

@Lazers HUH, I ALWAYS ASSUMED THE YELLOW TAB WAS FOR SAVE DATA SINCE THEY WERE ALL SPORTS GAMES.

Grace Note

...AutoCAD again?

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot oKAY

at work

@fbueckert Nope, still been running around making enemies in Starsector

OrigamiRobot

@GraceNote YES

SaintWacko

I have a second Aurora now

I had the opportunity to capture a Medusa, but I hadn't realized I was out of marines :(

I really want another Paragon

OrigamiRobot

@SaintWacko IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK ANYWAY AS IT SEEMS CHAT NOW ONLY UPDATES FOR YOUR LAST ACTIVE INSTANCE

Fluttershy

4:03 PM

@OrigamiRobot Why did this ping me twice?

OrigamiRobot

WAIT... OR IT WAS STILL BEING SLOW FROM EARLIER

@Fluttershy NO SE

fbueckert

@SaintWacko I ran through the codex for that thing. Damn, I want one.

OrigamiRobot

@SaintWacko TRY AGAIN

fbueckert

21 mins ago, by fbueckert

Wow, SE's hamsters are having an epileptic fit today.

Fluttershy

@fbueckert That could be it.

fbueckert

4:05 PM

They're really twitchy today.

Grace Note

@OrigamiRobot Try refreshing now?

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot at work

OrigamiRobot

@SaintWacko RELEVANT DATA FOUND

agent86

I cannot ping ashleynunn, and I can't ping wipqozn. thus, I am TEARING THE SITE DOWN

SaintWacko

@fbueckert Right? I must have gotten lucky finding one in the station

@OrigamiRobot gg

You forgot the http://

agent86

4:07 PM

I will replace it with 'agent86's house of cat picture pings and so forth emporium'

fbueckert

I guess that's what we get for server migration in the middle of a blizzard.

OrigamiRobot

:(

fbueckert

@OrigamiRobot How did I know that would link to TVTropes?

OrigamiRobot

@fbueckert BECAUSE I TOLD YOU IT WOULD

Grace Note

@agent86 I can only blame this on your own incompetence when it comes to pinging.

2

agent86

4:14 PM

@GraceNote too late, welcome to AHOCPPASFE.

Grace Note

agent86

All I have is anna lear when I start to type.

and nothing at all for w's

Grace Note

Did I mention incompetence? Because I totally did.

Yi Jiang's Evil Clone

Hmmm, I can't either

agent86

@GraceNote did I mention too late? because I totally did. how may I serve you cat gifs today?

Grace Note

4:16 PM

@agent86 On a plate made FROM YOUR OWN BONES. ♪

OrigamiRobot

o_o

agent86

@GraceNote that's OK I have a lot of spare bones. ribs, for example. I got lots of those.

here's where I'd ping @AshleyNunn, IF I HAD ONE

how do I <3 @Wipqozn? let me count the ways

Fluttershy

@YiJiang'sEvilClone

OrigamiRobot

Dear @SaintWacko, Please find me an IGBT with a high max Vce and a Vth of about 5V.

SaintWacko

@OrigamiRobot Don't wanna

OrigamiRobot

4:31 PM

@SaintWacko ME NEITHER. THAT'S WHY I ASKED YOU.

THE ONES I HAVE HAVE A VTH OF ABOUT 8-9V, WHICH MEANS I CAN'T DRIVE THEM STRAIGHT FROM THE MCU

AND HAVING TO REGULATE MY SUPPLY VOLTAGE TO 9V JUST TO DRIVE ONE IGBT SEEMS LIKE A WASTE

agent86

@OrigamiRobot REGULATE YOUR USE OF CAPS LOCK, ROBOT

or we will regulate it for you

(not really)

OrigamiRobot

@agent86 AUTOCAD

agent86

@OrigamiRobot SHIFT KEY

OrigamiRobot

@agent86 ok, hOW IS THIS?

agent86

@OrigamiRobot SORRY I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WHY WE WERE TYPING IN CAPS.

I LIKE THE SHIFT KEY IT IS A COOL KEY

OrigamiRobot

4:41 PM

@agent86 I AM

agent86

@OrigamiRobot GREAT I AM GLAD

OrigamiRobot

ACTUALLY THE DATASHEET SAYS VTH FOR THIS IS 4.5-6.5V....

fredley

Can everyone please stop shouting?

OrigamiRobot

THAT DOES NOT MATCH MY OBSERVATIONS

Grace Note

Wild ARMs: the Vth Vanguard

fbueckert

4:44 PM

So question for the Bridge: should I play the original Suikoden?

Grace Note

@fbueckert Will it be in a lead-up to play Suikoden 2?

fbueckert

@GraceNote If I owned it, yes.

OrigamiRobot

@fredley I'M NOT SHOUTING. IT'S JUST EASIER THIS WAY. ACCEPT IT.

fbueckert

But since I don't, nope.

Grace Note

So, let me get this straight. You have the first, but not the second.

fbueckert

4:47 PM

@GraceNote Yup.

OrigamiRobot

@SaintWacko THIS WOULD WORK IF I WANTED TO DO MULTISTAGE

Grace Note

So, the question you should be asking is, "Should I get the second game?", to which the answer is "Yes.", in which you will play the first game as just a means to progress into the second game.

fbueckert

@GraceNote These are expensive games to pick up.

Fluttershy

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Q: Afterlife destination in Nirn?

For Nords, if they died in honorable death, they will spent their afterlife in Sovngarde. And for werewolves their souls will be claimed by Hircine for his Hunting Ground. Even captured souls in soul gem will be kept in Soul Cairn... ...but what about others? Also what about killed animals or fa...

skyrim

wat

Grace Note

@fbueckert Psh, when has that ever stopped you?

fbueckert

4:50 PM

@GraceNote For games I like, it doesn't.

I dunno if I even LIKE the Suikoden series, though.

Fluttershy

@fbueckert Yesyesyesyesyesyes.

You can get the first one is only like $6 on PSN. =D Or $15 for a used copy on Amazon.

Grace Note

A good way to find out if you'd like them would be to play the second game.

Fluttershy

@GraceNote But not without playing the first.

Grace Note

@Fluttershy Quite.

Fluttershy

Then the third. Skip the fourth. Play the fifth.

fbueckert

4:53 PM

@Fluttershy $15 for the original? An actual, physical copy of the original's only $15?

Fluttershy

@fbueckert For a used copy. Yeah.

fbueckert

@Fluttershy I thought it was really rare.

FAE

@Fluttershy That's not bad. I think I paid $25 or $30 for mine in a local game store.

@fbueckert 2 is

fbueckert

@FAE ...Damn. Shows what I know about the series.

OrigamiRobot

@agent86 @AshleyNunn IS HERE

Fluttershy

4:54 PM

@fbueckert Suikoden 2 is the one that'll run you $150+. Also, apparently Suikoden's used price on Amazon went up by ~$5 overnight. <_<

FAE

@fbueckert They did like only a single distribution run for it or something

user15026

@origamirobot I know I am awesome but why are you yelling

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn He's been yellling all day.

FAE

@AshleyNunn Work

fbueckert

Expressing his discontent about working with AutoCAD.

user15026

4:56 PM

@fbueckert is he broken aga--oh. AutoCAD.

OrigamiRobot

@AshleyNunn ALL THOSE THINGS

user15026

Man, burnout sucks. I just want to sleep and hide in bed forever.

Fluttershy

But more to the point, @fbueckert, yes. Suikoden and Suikoden 2 are two of the greatest RPGs ever made, and they should be played by anyone. Even if you have to emulate it. Just make sure to get all 108 Stars of Destiny. And keep them alive.

fbueckert

@AshleyNunn Burnout the game, or burnout as in "Ugh, no energy left to do stuff."

FAE

@fbueckert I imagine the latter.

agent86

5:02 PM

@AshleyNunn I tried to ping you earlier to share cat gifs and was unsuccessful. Then grace demanded my bones.

then there was an appreciation for shift keys

and then you're more or less caught up with what I remember

fbueckert

@FAE I would assume so, yes. My encyclopedia for a brain spit out the game reference first, though.

FAE

@fbueckert As did mine.

user15026

@fbueckert as in the complete lack of desire to accomplish anything.

Fluttershy

@AshleyNunn Are you burnt out from reading awesome books that I or @Ktash recommended?

FAE

@AshleyNunn I am so there with you right now. :(

fbueckert

5:06 PM

@AshleyNunn Aww. That sucks.

user15026

@fluttershy that book is so incredibly good.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Retrosaur hate to break it to you, but Mike is right and Tiny Tina is actually basically kinda racist.

user15026

@fae I have so much to do right now and I just don't care. Dropped a class this morning so I didn't fail it later.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Like, she's a half step up from the way that Final Fantasy games have portrayed black people on and off since FF7. Which is not exactly an encouraging statement.

user15026

@fbueckert my goal is to not give up completely.

FAE

5:08 PM

@AshleyNunn That is no good. :/

agent86

@LessPop_MoreFizz I dunno, she seems awfully white trash to me, and I have a lot of white trash relatives. I didn't find her to be all that racist, no more than scooter and his sister or whoever she was

user15026

@FAE nope. Gonna try to see if I can get into counseling earlier than my next appointment. Maybe that will help.

FAE

@AshleyNunn Good luck! hugs

agent86

Ellie, I guess her name was?

Fluttershy

@agent86 Yep.

LessPop_MoreFizz

5:11 PM

@agent86 tbqh, I don't really want to get into the argument, except to say that people coming from a position of privilege are basically not and should never really be allowed to tell other people that they are 'dumb' for being offended. Mike was looking to start a conversation and open some eyes, he succeeded in doing so, and then he lost his fucking job over it because gamers in full on denial mode, out to prove how 'not racist' they were decided to engage in a full on smear campaign.

agent86

most of the characters in the borderlands universe are pretty effed up, tbh. I never really considered them representative of any given race or what have you. Marcus has an eastern european accent, and he's a cutthroat businessman, but I don't really think the intent was to say "russians will shoot you if you steal from them"

@LessPop_MoreFizz I didn't really follow the controversy, so I can't really comment on how people were/should have been treated.

fbueckert

@agent86 Scooter seems like a classic redneck character.

agent86

if people were treated poorly, that sucks.

fbueckert

Which makes me laugh. So, who cares.

user15026

@LessPop you are making a lot of assumptions about the motivations of others. I am not saying either side was right, but still. Also, so people who aren't in an position of privilege can tell me not to be offended?

LessPop_MoreFizz

5:19 PM

@AshleyNunn I didn't say that last part. The inversion is not implied at all.

@AshleyNunn And I'm not really making any assumptions with regards to the specifics of what happened to Mike Sacco or what his intentions are, and won't get into them further, except to say that I do know what they are.

user15026

@LessPop it is, though.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@AshleyNunn It wasn't meant to be then. :P It was meant as an emphasizing qualification, not one that exclusivizes the limitation.

user15026

@LessPop it's your remarks about what everyone else did that I am taking issue with.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@AshleyNunn Which, the fact that he lost his job over it? Again, I am familiar with the specific facts here, and they are accurate. Or the fact that people have been sending him some of the most vile and hateful correspondence imaginable ever since the story hit Kotaku? Again, accurate as well.

user15026

@LessPop I get it. People suck.

LessPop_MoreFizz

5:23 PM

@AshleyNunn So then what are you taking issue with? Because at this point I've gone line by line through what I've said since coming into chat and you haven't taken issue with any of it.

fbueckert

> he lost his fucking job over it because gamers in full on denial mode, out to prove how 'not racist' they were decided to engage in a full on smear campaign.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Aside from the aforementioned confusion over my statement re: privilege.

fbueckert

That seems to be the statement.

You're assuming motivations.

user15026

@fbueckert that.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@fbueckert Except that I'm not. Like I said, I am specifically familiar with the exact story about what happened to Sacco and his job and this 'event' is 100% specifically, and exactly the cause.

2 mins ago, by LessPop_MoreFizz

@AshleyNunn Which, the fact that he lost his job over it? Again, I am familiar with the specific facts here, and they are accurate. Or the fact that people have been sending him some of the most vile and hateful correspondence imaginable ever since the story hit Kotaku? Again, accurate as well.

fbueckert

5:25 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz Yes. Because you understand hundreds of gamers' motivations.

user15026

Yeah but...fuck it. Not having this argument in a public chat while typing on my tiny phone screen. I don't care. You can be right today.

FAE

@fbueckert If you've been following the story at all and the comments that have been left though, you can see that this is what happened.

Ben Brocka

@agent86 If anything Marcus is deliberately an ironically capitalist character. He makes blatant call-outs to it in BL2

user15026

@FAE thing is? I have been.

Fluttershy

@BenBrocka "Hooray for Capitalism!" like that one!

user15026

5:26 PM

But since I disagree with his points, it is assumed I am a stupid rube who knows nothing.

user15026

And quite honestly? Screw that.

agent86

@BenBrocka Handsome Jack's kind of a capitalist too, I mean, dude owns a horse made of diamond and is not afraid to flaunt that

Ben Brocka

@Fluttershy Yeah he says something like that explicitly about capitalism

@agent86 Marcus only cares about money though. Jack's intentions are more about personal glory

Fluttershy

@agent86 Oh, Buttstallion...

fbueckert

@FAE I haven't been following the story at all. It's the attitude @LessPop is displaying that I have a problem with. The automatic assumption that not agreeing with the viewpoint he provides means you're an idiot.

Fluttershy

5:28 PM

Handsome Jack is one of the funniest video game characters I've seen in recent years.

agent86

@BenBrocka haven't played far enough yet I suppose. Just returned to sanctuary after a long... vacation

Fluttershy

@fbueckert I didn't get that implication from it at all.

user15026

@fbueckert yeah, that's my problem. I know the story. I did my research. But my disagreement makes me stupid.

fbueckert

@Fluttershy I am, though.

And I'm not the only one.

FAE

@fbueckert I'm not sure what you're reading that I'm not, but I didn't see him imply anything in regards to anyone in this room.

LessPop_MoreFizz

5:29 PM

@fbueckert No. Calling Sacco 'dumb' for trying to start the conversation is stupid.

Ben Brocka

@agent86 He's the "Hero". He refers to himself like that a lot. You'll see more of his personality later, if you just got back to sanctuary

LessPop_MoreFizz

The shit that has been said to him since, is stupid.

fbueckert

@LessPop_MoreFizz Ok, that I can agree with.

agent86

@BenBrocka yeah, he has mentioned that he thinks the vault hunters are the Bad Guys

LessPop_MoreFizz

If you want to disagree, that's cool. But I'm not' talking about civilized disagreement here.

Fluttershy

5:29 PM

@agent86 Only because they aren't dead yet. =P

user15026

@LessPop yet you jumped on me, assuming I didn't know what I was talking about the moment I disagreed.

Fluttershy

Also, NO SPOILERS.

Ben Brocka

@Fluttershy Buttstallion is the final boss and Jack killed dumbledor

agent86

@BenBrocka >:|

user15026

@LessPop when my real issue was your comments on privilege and the motivations of everyone. I know what people did. I known they were terrible. But it isn't he giant sweeping statements that are the problem.

SaintWacko

5:31 PM

@BenBrocka fUUUUUUUUUU-

user15026

It is the giant statements, rather.

user15026

@BenBrocka well played.

user15026

You assumed in my disagreement that I had to be uninformed simply because my opinion was different. Not cool.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@AshleyNunn Fair enough. I may have overgeneralized in an attempt to drive by the conversation, because as I said, I really didn't want to (nor do I want to now) get into the argument itself on the merits.

user15026

Anyway, I am going to step away from the Internet before I get anymore upset.

LessPop_MoreFizz

5:33 PM

@AshleyNunn My apologies.

Lazers

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Q: Afterlife destination in Nirn?

For Nords, if they died in honorable death, they will spent their afterlife in Sovngarde. And for werewolves their souls will be claimed by Hircine for his Hunting Ground. Even captured souls in soul gem will be kept in Soul Cairn... ...but what about others? Also what about killed animals or fa...

the-elder-scrolls

SaintWacko

@fbueckert Just found another Paragon in the TTS base!

Ben Brocka

@SaintWacko Have you not finished it yet either?

I hope they publish a recording of this: Designing Humor in Borderlands 2

bwarner

5:49 PM

Is it just me, or does the face that you need to have a wiki page open to understand what's going on in Binding of Isaac a terrible design choice?

fbueckert

@SaintWacko ...Boo. I guess I have to leave those stupid Tachyon convoys alone.

bwarner

I guess they spent too much time on blood and feces effects to create actual in-game item descriptions?

Ben Brocka

@bwarner Considering it draws a lot of inspiration from the NES Zelda it doesn't really surprise me. It's very reminiscent of a lot of games that never told you anything and had a massive amount of hidden mechanics. I'm not a fan but I know a lot of people like that sort of crap

SaintWacko

@BenBrocka Nope

Ben Brocka

It's a fine line to walk between horrible design and "not holding hands", since a lot of people seem to, for whatever reason, have honestly preferred when games made no sense

SaintWacko

5:52 PM

@fbueckert Just let them deliver their cargo first

They don't disappear on delivery like the pirates do

Ben Brocka

@bwarner Trust me McMillen probably had those effects already done before starting the game

bwarner

@BenBrocka I'm the kind of person who doesn't like to look at guides for games. That being said, I find a game that doesn't tell me what anything does rather infuriating.

I'm glad that I got the game as part of the Humble Bundle, because I don't feel like I wasted money on it. I played for about an hour and don't know that I'll go any further.