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6:00 PM
@SaintWacko I feel like if the message content wasn't actually changed this would be amazing
 
@Arperum Well, I guess I don't have a big wardrobe.
My Monster Hunter shirts account for half of all the shirts I own.
 
(I might have like 60-70 bandshirts or something)
 
Cloth map confirmed CC @Arperum
 
\o/
 
oops
Should have posted in there last night.
 
6:05 PM
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in The Dangerously Elite, 14 secs ago, by Feeds
Wipqozn has unfrozen this room.
 
Or less, the good numbers are going up
 
Apparently owners can't unfreeze rooms. That disappoints me.
 
Ooh. I'm apparently getting my Android box today. One day earlier than expected.
 
@Frank You using it as a set-top box?
 
6:09 PM
@MBraedley if they could then why have the freeze feature at all =p
 
@KevinvanderVelden normies wouldn't be able to unfreeze rooms
 
Yeah but you can make anyone a room owner
The base requirement for that is making the room =p
 
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Q: Why can't I talk to Baldor Iron-Shaper?

HorusI have defeated the Thalmor on the ship and gotten the map for the quest "A New Source of Stahlrim," but when I try to take the map back to Baldor, it won't let me talk to him. Instead, he just does the normal NPC dialogue thing, where he says random things and doesn't let you actually tell him ...

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Q: Clear forest / improvement before building?

travehShould I use a builder to clear forest / improvement before building on top of it? (When there's a red question mark icon saying "Building here will remove the forest" or "This improvement will be removed when building the ...")

 
@MBraedley Streaming from my fileserver.
 
Yay intro movie things
 
6:13 PM
@KevinvanderVelden And having a setting to skip them is nice. You don't want to watch it 5000 times
 
Pretty sure this guy had a mental breakdown halfway through writing that
 
Yeah, so I've been reading that unicorn comic for a while. It's fun, but why are the panels so small? it hurts my eyes to read them because they're so small
sec, rehosting that
why does it show that as an album? Is that something new about Imgur to make albums when uploading a single image?
 
6:32 PM
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Q: Why can't I find caves?

KarlyrI'm pretty sure I covered all of my map with my friend but I still can't manage to find caves. How is that ?

 
overwatch
cc @Wipqozn and @GodEmperorDune
 
ouf
 
lol
 
Souljaboytellem
 
@Unionhawk you can't stop it now
all you had to do was listen
 
6:47 PM
> A suspect was shot dead by police after he allegedly plowed into pedestrians with a car and then stabbed multiple people with a butcher's knife at the Ohio State University campus in Columbus, Ohio, this morning, the university said. The scene is now secure, officials say.
So was the shooting at OSU not a shooting, then?
> The dead attacker was believed to be an Ohio State student — a Somali refugee who lived near campus, NBC News reported. It said he was a legal permanent resident of the U.S.
 
@Sterno no, just a good guy with a gun, like all the gun control opponents said is the only thing that helps
 
Well, being any kind of "refugee" means this won't possibly quickly turn ugly on social media. CAN'T WAIT
 
Difference is that the good guy is paid to be a good guy
 
Well, I don't think we typically count "cops shot the bad guy" as a shooting, in the sense of it turning the whole thing into a shooting incident
 
@Unionhawk I'll watch this when I get home, thanks
@arda I don't get it
@Sterno Car Stabbing instead I guess
@Sterno Oh golly gee I can't wait to hate everyone again
 
6:57 PM
I'd blame the media for jumping to the conclusion it was a shooter except the alert tweet from OSU did say "active shooter"
Which is probably a lot easier to tweet than "crazy fucker running into people with a car and then hopping out and stabbing them and who knows maybe has a gun too who can tell with crazy fucks"
 
@Sterno When things are happening real time like that, the university's priority is to make people aware of the situation over detailed accuracy.
 
That's kind of what I was saying
 
Yeah... I had started typing before and was mostly finished by the time your second comment hit.
 
Though there is an entry for it in the "list of school shootings in the US" wikipedia page
WIKIPEDIA IS SUPPOSED TO BE 100% ACCURATE
Also, wtf needing a page for that
 
Iirc Wikipedia has a List of Lists
Wikipedia likes lists
 
7:04 PM
This is a list of articles that are lists of list articles on the English Wikipedia. In other words, each of the articles linked here is an index to multiple lists on a topic. Some of the linked articles are themselves lists of lists of lists. == General reference == Lists of academic journals Lists of important publications in science Lists of unsolved problems == Culture and the arts == === Literature === Lists of books Lists of 100 best books Lists of banned books Lists of The New York Times Fiction Best Sellers Lists of The New York Times Non-Fiction Best Sellers Publishers Weekly...
 
AND NOW IT'S GONE. WIKIPEDIA IS 100% ACCURATE AGAIN
 
 
For years, some Nun's in a tibetian village had to live in teacups thanks to that 100% rule and me checking something at college.
 
@djsmiley2k Are you experimenting with a Markov chain generator?
 
7:18 PM
@SaintWacko haha no
 
fixed link
 
i think it started as small huts
hmmm
if segregating by sex is weird, what about the disabilities?
 
Why is every single news website awful? cc @Wipqozn
 
@Sterno Because of your mom
 
@djsmiley2k disabilities are already their own event
 
7:21 PM
@badp yus
 
Also in all seriousness @Sterno, it's because most of the decisions are made by old people that think the internet is "just a fad"
 
So, since the last day of the current steam sales has arrived, do you guys have any suggestions for discounted games to buy?
 
@Nzall all of them, so you never have to wonder what game you should buy next any longer
 
Bad Rats
 
@badp that's a bit pricy
 
7:22 PM
@Sterno At my company, there were decisions made BACK IN THE DAY where they intentionally made the site worse since they were concerned if the site was too good, it would hurt newspaper sales. I'm 100% serious.
 
but by the same logic separating people by sex is weird, separating them by ability is weird too, as after all, the sex seperation is due to an lack of ability on the female part (not as strong etc)
 
@Sterno I'm not buying a game hat can't even get their physics consistent
 
@djsmiley2k The differences in ability caused by major disabilities are a lot greater than the differences in abilities due to sex. So separation by disabilities makes more sense
 
@djsmiley2k So basically I need to be in the competition specifically for pudgy, out of shape old white guys
 
NO GAME HAT FOR YOU
 
7:23 PM
so besides "all of them" and "bad rats", anything else?
 
@murgatroid99 could you outrun Peacock?
 
Looking for something action-oriented, preferably with good RPG elements
 
if we gave him longer legs, i doubt evne bolt could.
 
@djsmiley2k Like the animal? I have no idea
 
@Nzall Galactic Hitman is solid
 
7:25 PM
... no, the olympian with no legs
 
Solid like a BM
 
@Wipqozn Is that even still available?
 
I use his name as I remember him
 
@Arperum Oh no it's not
 
because I joke about his brother, drew
 
7:25 PM
@Wipqozn Is that on Steam? Looking for a PC game
 
My attempt to troll @Nzall into buying the space version of bad rats failed
 
because I can't find that on steam
 
@Nzall It was on steam.
 
Oh, it was a Digihom game
 
@Nzall nah it got taken down because the company was sued or something. The game is shit.
 
7:26 PM
@djsmiley2k Pistorius?
 
@murgatroid99 like him but not in jail
 
@Wipqozn the other way around: the company sued their users, then Steam banned them for it
 
@Nzall oh right
point is that company is stupid
 
Which explains why Bad Rats also isn't online anymore
 
Hrm, Witcher 3 is 50% off. Do I want to play it again (and on PC) enough to buy it?
 
7:27 PM
@djsmiley2k I'm lost
 
So PC game, Action RPG, preferably cheaper than 20 EUR
 
@Nzall Titan Quest. NEXT
 
@Sterno Already own it
NEXT
 
GRIM DAWN, NEXT
I've been having the strange desire lately to play Path of Exile
 
7:30 PM
@Sterno Looks like Diablo, probably plays like it as well. I already own Diablo, but it's not my cup of tea
 
GUYS
cc @arda @Arperum and anyone else
 
It's basically slower Diablo that more convoluted skills and is less fun to play
 
@Unionhawk ooh
 
@djsmiley2k Oh. I didn't see him because he competed in the Paralympics, but not the Olympics. It looks like his 100m time is about a second slower than Bolt's
 
Oh, wait, I was talking about POE, not Grim Dawn. I haven't actually played Grim Dawn despite backing it at 3x the cost it was at actual release about 4 years before it came out
 
7:32 PM
@Nzall It's also made on the Titan Quest engine, and started by ex-titan quest devs.
It contains guns. And is a lot darker setting than Titan Quest.
 
hrm.
 
Back before I had kids and didn't forsee a day where I wouldn't have near-infinite gaming time
 
so, i went to buy Wrestlemania 33 Tickets since I live in town..
Sec F2 Row K, Seats 1-2 $2130.00 ea
I don't think I'll be going.
 
When I'm talking about Action RPG, I'm talking about something like Deus Ex, Witcher, Mass Effect, Jade Empire: either RPG games with direct character control, or action adventures with a fleshed-out RPG element
in case you are wondering what kind of games I play
 
I never would have called Deus Ex an ARPG, though indeed that term is so vague it could encompass just about any game these days
 
7:38 PM
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Q: when i evolve a pokemon, the pokemon i already have in the upper level's candy disappears

TracyI'll explain. I have a graveler with approximately 20 candy. When i evolve a geodude into a graveler, The graveler I already have now has 1 candy and the new graveler has one candy. so i can never get higher on a graveler to evolve because every time i evolve a geodude, the graveler i have loses ...

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Q: Why Does Upgrading In Clash Of Clans Take So Long?

xSFGx _LegendI am currently settled at a maxed town hall six, and looking back I am wondering why all of it took so long to upgrade. I understand SuperCell doesn't want the game to go by to fast, but then it takes to long to play. Is it a business tactic so that people will purchase gems so they can rush the ...

 
I mean, that Top 15 list puts Dark Souls and Torchlight in the same "arpg" category
 
Is that list all dark souls?
 
@Unionhawk no, it's filled with diablolikes
 
And all the Diablos
 
I see
So it's an amalgamation of games that probably shouldn't be considered to be in the same category
 
7:41 PM
Essentially, I'm looking for a game where I control my character and the camera directly using WSAD/mouse and a deep character power customization section
 
But they're all RPGs so /shrug
RPG categorization is weird
Because like yes Dark Souls and Diablo are action-packed RPGs, but it's clear there's something particular about Diablo that's slightly different. Maybe that's literally just it's top down versus third person, idk
 
@Nzall Magicka
 
@GnomeSlice sorry, should have clarified more: 3rd person perspective, not isometric
 
Lichdom Battlemage
@Unionhawk lootfest
 
also, should be fully enjoyable in singlepalyer
 
7:47 PM
Fallout 3?
 
@GnomeSlice own it
 
Just Cause 2
 
I already bought Black Mesa
 
The Elder Scrolls VI: Fallout IV
 
Own it
Own both JC2 and FO 3, NV and 4
Although I barely played FO4
hated the settlement building
 
7:48 PM
(GEDDIT BECAUSE FALLOUT 4 IS CREATION ENGINE SO IT FEELS LIKE SKYRIM EXCEPT WITH GUNS?)
I'm a real funny guy
2
 
Transformers: Devastation
 
and the gameplay was meh, honestly. too much reliance on VATS
@GnomeSlice I don't really like spectacle fighters
 
Ah
Galaxy on Fire 2
Probably getting further off base
 
Yeah, that seems more like an space economy game, not interested in that genre
Although if you got something that's a lot like Freelancer back in the day, I'd love that
Tried Darkstar One, was fun
 
@Nzall The two games I know of most similar to Freelancer would be Elite Dangerous or Star Citizen. Considering Star Citizen isn't going to be moving past alpha stage anytime soon, there's really only one choice.
 
7:52 PM
@Nzall it's not, the trading is non-existent if you'd like it to be
Fly around shooting aliens and make friends and enemies
 
@Ellesedil I own Elite already. it handles different from Freelancer to the point of frustration for me (although I played with Newtonian physics turned off) and it's multiplayer-only
 
You can also only be a trader but the economy stuff I'd a bit weak
Is
Was freelancer 6dof?
 
@Nzall You can play solo on Elite.
 
@Ellesedil Really? How? it also doesn't have a campaign
 
Single player and a campaign are not the same things.
 
7:54 PM
I played through the Freelancer campaign like a dozen times back in the day, even modded it myself
 
Play->Solo Play
 
^ That.
 
It is still very much open ended with no objective given to you by the game
 
> 1. Sell Elite: Dangerous.
> 2. Use money to buy No Man's Sky.
There's your solo play.
 
7:56 PM
cc @GodEmperorDune? Not sure if that counts as a pun.
Almost definitely doesn't.
But it probably deserves a "hue".
 
@Yuuki how about no? Let's switch it. what recent first person game would you recommend for the singleplayer campaign alone?
besides DOOM and Wolfenstein
I'll just stick to Witcher 3 right now. I'm currently doing my second playthrough after cheating most of my way through my first playthrough and skipping most of the sidequests
 
GoldenEye 007 is a first-person shooter video game developed by Rare and based on the 1995 James Bond film GoldenEye. It was exclusively released for the Nintendo 64 video game console in August 1997. The game features a single-player campaign in which players assume the role of British Secret Intelligence Service agent James Bond as he fights to prevent a criminal syndicate from using a satellite weapon against London to cause a global financial meltdown. The game also includes a split-screen multiplayer mode in which two, three, or four players can compete in different types of deathmatch games...
 
Don't like it though that I'll have to essentially revisit every vendor to check for quest items
 
@Nzall I've heard Titanfall 2's campaign is, on one hand, good and, on the other, incredibly by-the-books predictably boring.
 
@Nzall I've heard good things about doom
 
8:00 PM
@Yuuki I don't mind boring and clichéd. I'm just looking for good gameplay
@KevinvanderVelden Yeah, I own it already. Bought it during the summer sale
 
@Nzall Well then I heard good things about Titanfall 2.
 
@Yuuki okay, I'll keep that in mind. A little pricey for me right now, and it's only on Origin
 
@Yuuki nah, no hue for you
 
@Nzall SOMA
 
@GnomeSlice That sounds horror. is it horror?
 
8:03 PM
Very psychological and existential
Yeah lol
 
@Unionhawk I like it.
 
I really like the story bits but I'm not huge on scary
 
@arda hue
 
@Nzall Murror's Edge
Mirror
 
Muh Edge
 
8:05 PM
I hate horror. I own Mirror's Edge 1, but after the tutorial got me stuck for 30 minutes on a wall jump it wanted me to constantly retry even when succeeding because I didn't do it JUST right...
 
Ou
I see
 
Like, after the tutorial it probably won't be an issue, but seriously, if i can get past the obstacle the first time, but I climbed the wall a meter ahead of where you wanted me so you don't accept it, I'm not interested in you
 
Bioshock
 
@GnomeSlice Finished 1 and Infinite, own 2 but not really a fan of it
 
2 s definitely not as good as 1
Tiny and big
Spec ops the line
Hand of Fate
Miner Wars 2081
 
8:10 PM
@GnomeSlice loved the mindfucky story of SOtL
New genre: good walking simulators
 
I just got a new desk chair and it's about 6 inches higher than my old one and now THE WORLD IS COMPLETELY DIFFERENT
 
by that I mean less games with failure states and more like games that have a really great narrative with less of a focus on gameplay
 
@Sterno THE CHAIR JUST GOT 6 INCHES HIGHER
 
things like Stanley Parable, Beginner's Guide, that sort of thing
 
This must be what people feel like when they get high.
 
8:12 PM
oh, apparently I already own Tiny and Big
the surprises I find in a 300 game steam library
 
@Nzall Firewatch was all right?
I don't think it had any failure states.
 
@Yuuki Yeah, I liked it. didn't like some of the choices I made
but I loved the narrative
 
If I play it again, I'm going to have to turn off the player arrow on the map.
 
but some of the dialogue choices i made were too impulsive
I'm considering getting Everybody's gone to the Rapture
but it isn't discounted
 
Anyone playing EVE Online now that it's free to play?
 
8:15 PM
Route 66 defense. We have widow and genji and mcree but no tank. I'm sure we'll have no problem stopping the cart.
 
@Nzall Part of my problem with dialogue choices these days is that they rarely tell you every you say in the dialogue option.
 
And neither is dear esther
 
@Sterno Just stop them at the train cars and you'll be fine.
@Nzall Well, that's a pretty big spoiler to put into the title.
> "Where is everyone?"
> "... the Rapture. Did you not read the title menu?"
 
Or I might go for Gone Home
 
@Nzall SO GOOD
 
8:17 PM
@Ellesedil No. Though I've played it a while ago
 
@Nzall Proteus
 
@Ellesedil really free to play or you buy game time in ISK?
 
The unfinished swan
Ether One
 
@GodEmperorDune It's free to play with some rather reasonable limits on skills.
 
NassencE or however you spell it
 
8:18 PM
You can fly Frigates, Destroyers, and Cruisers of your character's faction.
 
@Ellesedil interesting
 
We just need Walking Simulator Simulator 2016 to round out the year nicely.
 
They've set it up really well for new players.
I have over 60 million skill points, though, so I wasn't able to fly the ship I was in when I last logged off.
 
@GnomeSlice Does Proteus have a narrative?
 
I read that you can fly the smaller ships of your race, with the major limit being no T2 weapons and no cynos or cloaks
 
8:19 PM
@MadScientist Pretty much.
No T2 ships either.
 
@Sterno don't let anyone get you a standing desk
 
I think I had 90 million skill points when I stopped playing
 
yeah, but many of the major battles from what I heard are held between massive fleets of those ships with some bigger ships in the mix
 
@MadScientist was it enough to finally become pro much
 
Well, that match was predictably over in about 90 seconds, but I ended it with 5 gold, so I guess I'm a winner!
 
8:20 PM
@badp more like dead much ;-)
 
@Ellesedil oh wow, even EvE fell down to F2P?
 
@badp Yeah. They've been losing subscribers.
 
@badp Not really, it seems more like an extended trial version. The restrictions seem reasonably well thought out from what I read
 
@MadScientist oh.
 
I wish I had access to sensible databases instead of everything being stored in Excel spreadsheets. :(
 
8:22 PM
@BanhMiDacBiet what's stopping you?
 
@MadScientist That's how they've decided to implement it, but it really is in response to a slowly shrinking subscriber base.
 
sqlite should*** be way better than excel
 
There's quite a lot of fun stuff missing in the free account, but it looks certainly to be enough to have some fun in a corporation
 
@Ellesedil it was too cutthroat for me back in the day
 
That hasn't changed, really.
 
8:23 PM
If you use something like django you should have a web UI on your data relatively easily
 
like to get to endgame you have to do 0 sec space and if you aren't absolutely on top of your game you get rekt
 
the real problem is that making ad hoc data analysis gets more annoying
 
@badp I have no control over how data is stored and am only able to use VBA... Old equipment, regulations and company policies basically prevent us from using anything else.
 
A free tier seems pretty reasonable for EVE, more victims for everyone ;-)
 
ah
 
8:25 PM
@GodEmperorDune I never went to 0.0, FW was pretty fun at times though. I don't think EVE really has an endgame, there are many different paths
 
Well, another match over in about 90 seconds. This is feeling good.
 
I haven't done 0.0 either. I don't have the time or resources to dedicate to living out there.
 
@Sterno you must be holding it wrong
 
the amount you can make in there was ridiculous
again i played like 8 years ago
 
The most annoying thing in EVE was moving. I mostly just left my stuff all around because I couldn't be bothered to move everything
 
8:28 PM
It's pretty unfortunate but whatever keeps the power on. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
 
not sure how much it's changed sincethen
 
There's still plenty of ISK to be made in lowsec and 0.0.
Wormholes are a thing now, too.
 
There was a short time where you could make like 4-5k ISK per LP in faction warfare. That was extremely lucrative
 
Wee! Train wreck of migration process in progress!
 
And before that, I flew FW missions. If it worked well, this was easily more than 100 million ISK per hour. Didn't always work that well, but often enough
 
8:32 PM
I need to find a decent revenue stream. I've been thinking about getting into scanning and hacking sites.
 
If I were to say a data migration, from Access to SQL server, was to take 24 hours, how much data, roughly, would you expect there to be?
 
I tried exploration in high and low sec, but while I earned a few hundred millions, it was very inconsistent and really didn't work most of the time
 
I have some R&D agents with a bunch of data cores waiting for me... but I can't talk to them because the alpha clone restrictions turned off some of my connection skills, so I don't have enough rep with them anymore.
 
I've no idea how it is now, but FW plexes were most of the time at least a reasonable source of income and required very few skills
 
@Frank If it was all automated, I don't see why you couldn't transfer the full 2GB Access allows over to SQL Server.
I guess it would depend on how much transforming you'd have to do.
 
8:37 PM
@Ellesedil That is my thought. Since when does it take a solid day to transfer 2 gigs?
Transformation is virtually nil; the SQL server end was built with this schema as the base.
 
...
Is VBA code in Access running the migration?
 
dammit @uni I checked some secret hitler tutorials and now want to play it :/
AAAND my internet sucks so downloading tts will take forever
 
@Ellesedil Dunno. Not my project.
 
I might try secrethitler.online though
 
All I know is that a 24 hour estimate to transfer 2 gigs is setting off alarm bells.
 
8:44 PM
@Frank Is that 1 day or 3 days?
 
@Ellesedil One full day.
 
I hope you don't get billed for 24 hours.
 
We will most likely not pay anything they bill.
This specific project is 15 months overdue, and they have no reasons as to why that is.
 
Fun stuff.
 
As is, today was, "launch day". Because apparently an drop dead date of the end of the month wasn't taken seriously two weeks ago.
 
8:47 PM
Are these guys remote to you?
 
Launch day went as I expected; crashed and burned.
They're a third party company. They were handling app maintenance until I was hired.
 
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Q: How does stealing a tech boost work?

mkrieger1When a spy is sent on a "Steal Tech Boost" mission, what exactly does it mean to steal a tech boost? Requirements: Does the other civ need to have the boost for a technology, but have it not researched completely yet? Or does the other civ need to have the technology researched already? Effects...

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Q: What are most of the MOBA terms in vainglory or any MOBA?

Hershey LollipopI was wondering what all the MOBA terms meant because I dont play VG a ton thanks.

 
Which is why I was hired; they are severely unimpressed with these guys.
 
secrethitler.online is annoying ugh
 
@Frank your contractor sounds like the ones my department hired. Project start date set for August 2016, they started last week but are still claiming they can finish before the Christmas Holidays.
 
8:49 PM
@Frank Sounds like they're milking it.
 
@Ellesedil Yay for Chrome ignoring inputs!
Also, whatever it is, they've dropped the ball, hard.
They estimated a month for the project.
 
@Frank A month to duplicate the table structure of Access tables in SQL Server and to transfer the data over nearly 1:1?
Did they have to create the punch cards from scratch?
 
old
 
8:55 PM
@Ellesedil And rewrite the Access frontend to use SQL server.
 
@Sterno So you can relate
 
The estimate holds up. Their actions, not so much.
 
I just realized I never ate lunch. WAT
 
Access has linked tables. If the columns are the exact same, all you have to do is update your FROM clauses.
 
7 games of Overwatch. 7 spectacular failures
 
8:56 PM
@Ellesedil There was a bit more architecture changes going on.
 
Ah, ok
 
If it was just a back end migration, I'd be calling shenanigans.
 
So I've never even sdee a trailer for the bee movie, so based solely on this video it looks like the bee movie is a romance movie where a woman hooks up with a bee. What.
and at some point jerry beefield goes to court. what.
 
@Wipqozn The '00s were a weird time in animated movies.
 

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