The Bridge

3:00 PM

@ardaozkal Yeah, for a week, and then everyone will forget again, and the NRA will spend a bunch of money to make sure nothing actually happens

Fluttershy

50 people killed in a mass shooting at an Orlando nightclub.

I forgot how links worked for a second. But still. Fuck. :\

LessPop_MoreFizz

@TimStone so, at this point it looks like scumbag FBI agent saw brown skin and jumped to a conclusion. Goddamn it.

ardaozkal

@LessPop_MoreFizz does people care? He was a muslim and people will blame islam again, even though it isn't religiously motivated.

Unionhawk

@LessPop_MoreFizz the second half won't matter unfortunately

This'll be painted as a reason why entire groups of people are a national security risk

But on the other hand oh shit even fox is apparently saying this isn't religiously based so maybe there is hope

KutuluMike

I have already seen floods of people on my FB feed and local news site comments yelling about Obama and muslims.

so I would tamp down a bit on the hope

Fluttershy

3:06 PM

Oh. It was already posted. x_x Oops.

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: How can I see the skill points of each of the characters in Mass Effect 2?

I want to see the skill points of each of the characters to decide whether I want to retrain any. How can I see the skill points of each of the characters in Mass Effect 2?

mass-effect-2

ardaozkal

At least Canada is better with it.

Unionhawk

@KutuluMike as long as it's just dumb people and not a major news outlet

ardaozkal

BREAKING: Orlando shooter's father: Son possibly motivated by seeing two men kiss http://hill.cm/dheaJjk https://t.co/7C5IbgfLND

Tweeted by thehill on June 12, 2016 at 3:06 PM

@Unionhawk ooooh, wait until trump fucking wakes up

Unionhawk

You can quotify news there if you want

KutuluMike

3:08 PM

dumb people got Trump nominated for president. Dumb people now scare the s!@#! out of me.

Unionhawk

@ardaozkal ah shit

You're right

Fuck

ardaozkal

Really bad shooting in Orlando. Police investigating possible terrorism. Many people dead and wounded.

Tweeted by realDonaldTrump on June 12, 2016 at 12:07 PM

he did tweet, but this is not him.

probably media team

Unionhawk

Or they told him not to jump to conclusions like a clown

ardaozkal

@Unionhawk that is what makes trump trump

his looking into "the core issue" being banning everyone.

(also that is better than his regular grammar)

@KutuluMike twitter.com/5HRumorPatrol/status/742010953089187840

(also, real trump tweets usually have one or more "-")

KutuluMike

yah, I'm heading out in about an hour to go find one.

though I believe last time I tried to donate they told me no because I'm so frail and sickly

ardaozkal

3:18 PM

Shooter was motived by seeing two man kiss? I don't even

reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4npvoj/…

FML

reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4nq3ib/… reddit.com/r/The_Donald/comments/4npvtz/…

going to sleep again have a nice day

djsmiley2k

3:37 PM

lol

Religion loving america starts to hate religion loving everyone else

This is getting weird, fast :/

two bugs

I think it's less about any specific religion and more about people just trying to be intolerant

ardaozkal

@twobugs well said

murgatroid99

It's not just "intolerance". The fact is that many terrorist attacks in recent years have been related to Islam. People understand that but they don't understand how "converse" works, so they start thinking that most Muslims are related to terrorism.

ardaozkal

Aslo well said

two bugs

Many highly publicized terrorist attacks. There have been terrorist attacks done by people with no ties to Islam that are seemingly forgotten

I.E. Y'all Qaeda, Abortion clinic bombings, That church shooting last year, etc.

murgatroid99

3:48 PM

@twobugs I used the word "many" on purpose. I don't even know if it's the majority. But I'm pretty sure it is a large proportion of the whole.

two bugs

It's a significant portion, sure.

I'm not saying it's baseless. I'm just saying to me this appears to be less about any specific religion and more about people being afraid and using this as an excuse to be intolerant

Obviously, there is no Islamic hivemind that orchestrates these attacks

murgatroid99

And people easily fall prey to confirmation bias. They see an Islam-related attack, and it confirms that Islam is terrorism. They see some other attack, and think "It's just some crazy guy"

ardaozkal

The ironic side is that killing is haram.

two bugs

I'm basically viewing that as part of the larger picture of "An extreme minority of people from Group A have committed atrocities, therefore all members of Group A are dangerous", which is unfortunately a very common theme in human history

murgatroid99

People of any religion can twist their religion's teachings to server their own needs

badp

3:55 PM

see you guys

when a white young cis white person unloads a gun in a school

that is not "terrorism"

that's just being batshit insane!

it only became terrorism when it was revealed that he was a member of a bunch of groups

murgatroid99

Often, school shootings really aren't terrorism

It's an important distinction because school shootings and terrorist attacks have very different underlying causes, and probably very different solutions.

badp

right. but then we shouldn't really be surprised to learn that most terrorist attacks are made by muslims because that's how the term is basically defined. "Most wet things confirmed for water"

ardaozkal

> U.S. Senator Nelson tells reporters that he has heard that there is "some connection to ISIS" in relation to the shooting

He says this information is from Intelligence Committee staff

Goodbye future

KutuluMike

yeah, the guy was a "suspected ISIS sympathizer"

in FBI speak that's basically saying "spoke Arabic"

murgatroid99

@badp It's not that simple. "Terrorism" is defined by motive, not group membership.

KutuluMike

4:05 PM

unless you're muslim. then it's group membership.

murgatroid99

It happens that in the present day, the primary active terrorist groups in several countries are associated with Islam, but that's not the same as "They're just saying it's terrorism because the guy was probably a Muslim"

And the fact is that if a man speaking Arabic with that kind of weaponry shoots a bunch of people in a public place, it's actually not a bad bet that they're associated with ISIS

LessPop_MoreFizz

Terrorism is speech. It is political. If your mass murder isn't a political statement, an expression of ideology, it isn't terrorism.

2

Thus, most school shootings, perpetrated by aggreived teenagers, are not terrorism.

Shooting up a nightclub full of gay men? Probably is.

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: Is it possible to make someone not be able to jump?

I am making a map and I want to know if it's possible to make someone not be able to jump, is there any command for this?

minecraft

0

Q: What do the numbers when destroying non-player things mean?

When you destroy an enemy object that isnt a player, such as DVA's suit or Torbjorn's turret, you will see +### message. What do the numbers mean? Do they actually affect anything? As far as I understand there is no points system.

overwatch

Yuuki

4:25 PM

3

LessPop_MoreFizz

/barf

Yuuki

Is that referencing the shooting?

Because randomly posting religious quotes over farm country backgrounds is almost a state pastime here.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Well it went up not long after the news broke.

And Dan Patrick is a homophobic asshole

Meanwhile, the shooter wasnt religious, but he sure did beat up his ex-wife. It's almost like people with a history of domestic abuse ought not be trusted with firearms.

Wipqozn

So, just heard about the shooting and:
1) That's completely fuccked, my heart goes out to the victims and their families
2) Fuck Dan Patrick

two bugs

4:40 PM

@GraceNote I played Dwarf some. He's fun, but his playstyle is a little bland. Elf is a lot fo fun so far

Newly Opened Proposals for Entertainment

4:51 PM

1

PiClock

Proposed Q&A site for help for program PiClock.

Currently in definition.

Lazers 2.0

1

Q: Effects of Lucio's Soundwave on Heroes

Do heroes of different classes get affected by Lucio's Soundwave in different ways? Will a tank be pushed back less than a lightweight character?

overwatch

ardaozkal

@NewlyOpenedProposalsforEntertainment github.com/n0bel/PiClock

djsmiley2k

@NewlyOpenedProposalsforEntertainment lol no

badp

5:20 PM

remember: the problem is never with guns. Do not let the federal nannies get to you and your collection of shotguns

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: I can't evolve my pokemon

I'm playing alpha sapphire and I did the auto leveling loop on Stevens beldum and its Level 52 and it won't evolve what should I do(I already tried a random trainer battle)

pokemon-oras

ardaozkal

@badp not everyone needs a weapon

badp

WOW LITERALLY HITLER

ardaozkal

gtg

LessPop_MoreFizz

@badp well, yeah, shotguns aren't the problem at all. No way you'd shoot over a hundred people with how often one of those needs reloading.

Arperum

5:32 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz WHat if you have a shiutton of them loaded and ready?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Arperum it'd be hard to carry that many shotguns around.

two bugs

@badp Well the problem I think is that there are A Lot Of Guns in circulation already. So halting sales tomorrow wouldn't solve the problem. And given our culture, it would be extremely difficult for a large scale buy-back thing to work

I agree though, the situation is fuct

badp

@twobugs well yes no solution will solve the problem overnight

two bugs

It seems like the genie is out of the bottle so to speak with guns in America so the best thing we can do is figure out how to minimize these things going forward. And I don't know how well restricting sales works

If there's demand it just creates a black market

badp

that doesn't mean the answer is "do nothing"

two bugs

5:36 PM

I mean, The War On Drugs is going so well

@badp Absolutely

I'm just frustrated how this has become a partisan issue rather than both sides being able to work together, proactively

Unionhawk

Working together is overrated

This nation wasn't founded on compromise and working together!

Lazers 2.0

-2

Q: why cAN I NOT play my minecraft

my game only is letting me play for about 5secs and I found out on the 10th and I nee to get on my server

minecraft

0

Q: My Fallout 4 will not get past the initial loading screen

I am attempting to launch either vanilla or modded Fallout 4, but either way, I cannot get past the initial loading screen. It freezes the second the circle in the bottom right corner comes up. Since I am using Nexus Mod Manager, I thought that was the problem and uninstalled all mods I had loade...

pc fallout-4

ardaozkal

5:58 PM

8:57 PM - [redacted]: One question, you still want to be unbanned from that [redacted] chat?
8:57 PM - ardaozkal: yes
8:57 PM - [redacted]: No
8:57 PM - [redacted]: No you dont

lol

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: how do you kill undyne

ju8w54ihrjgiowjeioerdgjivasidsalwpq[#['`

minecraft

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

nuke-requested ^

ardaozkal

@EᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏIʀᴋ status-voted-to-nuke

Eᴀsᴛᴇʀʟʏ Iʀᴋ

thankee

fredley

@LessPop_MoreFizz If terrorism is speech, is it protected by the first amendment?

Only half trolling

LessPop_MoreFizz

6:11 PM

@Unionhawk I mean, it wasn't. It was founded on violent revolution.

@fredley no because existing precedent makes very clear that the first amendment does not protect violence.

fredley

@LessPop_MoreFizz ok

Unionhawk

@LessPop_MoreFizz fair enough

Lazers 2.0

6:24 PM

0

Q: Sand generator 1.9

Is it possible to build a sand generator in 1.9? If yes, can I know how? It's for a skyblock server, do I don't have lot of sand (and resource) Thanks a lot!

minecraft

0

Q: Why is my rocket drifting north?

So I just built this unmanned rocket: Altough the center of mass is in the center of the rocket it is "drifting" north when I launch it. Since I play in career mode and I'm still very early in the game I only have access to the basic Sputnik Command Pod which does not support SAS. I tried usin...

kerbal-space-program

0

Q: Any way to see weapon stats?

Is there any way to see the stats of a weapon besides the vague text description? Mostly to see which weapon is the best. Playing on console, so pc mods or hacks are not an option.

xbox-360 mass-effect-2

ardaozkal

@ardaozkal (I had his permission to post that)

Lazers 2.0

0

Q: Can you trade Pokemon from a GBC ROM to 3DS?

So I have found one that explains older generations to new generations through ROMs, but I'm not able to find information on doing a direct trade. I'm looking to get Pokémon from my ROM version of Pokémon Yellow to my 3DS Virtual Console version of Pokémon Yellow. Any thoughts?

pokemon-series

ardaozkal

6:46 PM

huh, the shooter worked in G4S

(g4s is a security company. google it, you probably saw the logo before)

(he might have obtained skill and gun from his job)

IS claimed responsibility

djsmiley2k

G4S, the worst security company ever?

ardaozkal

@djsmiley2k yes

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