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7:00 PM
UTC includes everything you need for conversions without having to look up the relative time difference between timezones
what's the difference between UTC-8 and UTC-5 ? 3 hours. What's the difference between PST and EST? Who the fuck knows?
 
user15026
I am so lost.
 
@Chippies But UTC falls down during DST :P
 
@Ktash that's DST fault, not UTC though
and DST makes everything worse
 
@Chippies I maintain my previous statement
 
what's the difference between PST and EDT? That's even harder to figure out than my previous statement
 
user15026
7:04 PM
Time is frustrating!
 
@Chippies Except they will switch at the same time, if they switch. Different countries will switch at different times, but within it is usually the same
 
in an ideal world, we'd get rid of DST and just use UTC everywhere
or whatever universal time
@Ktash within the same country you usually don't care about your timezone
timezones only matter when you look outside of your own country
 
@Chippies ... what country do you live in??
 
@Ktash Canada, it has a ton of timezones and iirc they change DST at diff dates too
 
Chippies lives in Nova Scotia, yeah? He's one of those :30 bastards
 
7:06 PM
Psh, I don't know about you silly Canadians, but here in the US my daily life often involves time-zone issues/switches/considerations
 
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Q: Where to steal items to deconstruct?

ogregoireIn TESO, I have this technique to improve my blacksmithing rather fast: find an closed door armory and get inside steal all the weapons log-out then log-back in repeat steps 2 and 3 until your inventory is full deconstruct everything and gain 1-2 levels of blacksmithing. For blacksmithing, fo...

 
eh, scratch that, whole Canada seems to enter/leave DST on same date
 
For example my sister is on Central, and my brother is on Mountain so if I want to talk to them, I have to consider what time it is. Plus work meetings and such
 
@Ktash it only matters within the same country because NA is so damn huge
 
@Chippies Yeah, for most countries that is the case. US is a bit... complicated. Especially Arizona
 
7:08 PM
imho, US states should be countries
because that's basically what they are
with some limitations
 
Hahaha, Canada is bigger than the US in total area :P
 
@Ktash Canada is mostly just forests though :P
 
Clearly you haven't been to Montana ;)
Just open land as far as the eye can see
 
user15026
@Ktash Arizona is weird about time?
 
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Q: Is "Unclear what you're asking" -flag used as a way to ask for more details?

DJ PirtuI've been noticing in this a lot in the Close Votes -queue. It's actualy rather clear what the asker's problem is, but the community thinks (mostly justifiably) that it needs more details to properly or more easily answer the question. I'm a bit uneasy about this trend, so I have two questions: ...

 
7:12 PM
the US has 10x the population of Canada, so, Canada most likely has more empty space than US :P
 
@AshleyNunn Different parts of Arizona do or do not recognize DST. CGP Grey Video on the topic (about 5 minutes in is Arizona)
 
user15026
@Ktash :D
 
user15026
That sounds delightfully chaotic.
 
user15026
Okay this video is just reminding me that time is a stupid mess
 
7:28 PM
Italy has twice the population of Canada
 
@badp and none of the apologies
 
EST best time
 
user15026
Dear customers dont lie I can see what package you are on
 
user15026
so if you are on package x and the speeds are package x the only way to get what you want is to pay more
 
People actually think that works? O.o
 
user15026
7:42 PM
guy just tried it
 
lol
gaaaaaaaaaaah theres no summons here
LOL
invader went off the edge. AGAIN
 
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Q: Why is my game not working?

Jonco98Ok, so I got a new computer last month and I just now put Minecraft on it. I put all my 1.7.2 Mods in and I tried to run it. Every time I run it, it breaks before the game even launches. Here is what the GameOutput says: [13:46:14] [main/INFO] [LaunchWrapper]: Loading tweak class name cpw.mods...

 
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8:02 PM
@Yuuki can you ping me when movie night is about to begin?
 
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Q: Minecraft windows 10 edition redeem code error

TuniGamerWhen I clicked to redeem the minecraft windows 10 edition in my mojang account I was redirected to the login page of the microsoft account, then I accidentally close the browser. I re-opened it, and enter my mojang account, clicked in reddem again and then i got this error: Server Error in '/' A...

 
TIL I can never play Ikaruga.
 
8:17 PM
that game is hardcore normally, anyway
 
user15026
The perils of two companies in one building: I have gotten two people calling me, their ISP, to see if their computers have been repaired because its all in the same place (but with completely different contact people and we dont share account info or anything between the two)
 
user15026
and they get mad when I say no one from the other company is here and I know nothing
 
user15026
@Fluttershy Oh, why not?
 
@AshleyNunn I'm bad at bullet hell games already, and Ikaruga looks to be the hardest one ever made. <_<
 
@Arperum Sure.
 
user15026
8:26 PM
@Fluttershy That would do it then.
 
user15026
I am terrible at those, but I like them sometimes. Like I know I will be awful at them, but they appeal to me
 
@AshleyNunn What's your adventurer name on KoL?
 
@Fluttershy do you like them though?
 
user15026
@Yuuki Araleith
 
8:53 PM
@GnomeSlice I can see their appeal. But I'm too bad at them to actually get any enjoyment from them.
 
wow +7 on one question in a day, i'm on a roll :)
 
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Q: How can I determine what the stats of ascended armor will be?

AdeeseWhen an armor piece is ascended, its stats are increased to match the highest level gear that is currently available. Without actually ascending the item, is there any way to tell what its final stats will be? Obviously light will be 42 - I'm not interested in the other stats on the item.

 
thats the horsey dead in dark souls 2, theres nothing after that from what I can tell, other than the pvp convent?
I remeber a stone person some where, but can't find them now :D
 
9:11 PM
@AshleyNunn I sent you a mail in kingdom of loathing. My char's name is sytras
I'll send a care package once I finish this hardcore run
 
why doesn't this door open :/
 
@djsmiley2k where are you?
the castle?
 
@murgatroid99 winters shrine now
 
Oh, that door.
You need a certain item.
Or like 1,000,000 soul memory
 
9:24 PM
I think that's the one you need to kill the 4 major bosses 4
 
errr
 
Yeah you need the band of the king right
 
i thoguht that was a joke ¬_¬
1 million soul memory?
 
@GnomeSlice no, that's the other door
 
where do you see the soul memory?
 
9:24 PM
@djsmiley2k pause screen
 
@murgatroid99 Oh.
 
And that's the hard way
 
top right number?
920000ish atm :<
 
Yes
The way you're supposed to do it is by killing the four major bosses anyway
 
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Q: I can't run jar files on my windows 7 pc

Max BrowneOK, so I can't run jar files of any sort on my windows 7 pc, the one in particular I'm trying to use is the forge installer for minecraft so an installer window should open when i double click the file. I have Java and I set it to open with Java (TM) SE Binary but all that does is make the comman...

 
9:26 PM
That's the Rotten in the Gutter, the fire guy in the fire place past the earth place, the lost sinner in the old bastille, and the giant spider in Brightstone Cove something
 
@murgatroid99 Tseldora
 
right, that one
 
@murgatroid99 Also the Old Iron King is the fire guy's name
 
not sure which ones i've done D:
 
Also Lost Bastille
@djsmiley2k See which ones you have souls for.
 
9:28 PM
@djsmiley2k Look in your inventory
You should have soul items for the ones you beat
and they should be orange, so they're easy to find
 
hmmm maybe of traded some ?;
 
@djsmiley2k lol...
 
ok you can check which bonfires you have access to
 
Check your bonfire then, see which ones you have~ yeah that
 
k
fighting ghosts now
 
9:32 PM
Oh if you haven't gone that way before, that goes to one of the bosses
 
yup that was the way I'd missed.
955608
lol
so how come sometim es the box around the bonfires when traveling is orange?
 
9:49 PM
I don't actually know. It never made a difference that I noticed
 
EVENT STARTING IN SOON AAA
 
HI GUYS
 
HELLO
 
Have to bring in groceries, brb.
@Arperum Yo.
Okay, anyone want to help me do some pre-show testing?
Anyone?
 
10:05 PM
Sure.
 
@Yuuki I'm in the room
 
Lemme know the sound and video quality is.
 
@Yuuki there is a hd/sd switch. one time free hd, assuming that is regulated by a cookie.
 
Oh dear, I didn't know it was a one-time.
I already flipped it.
 
10:08 PM
So did I, that's how I noticed, it told me something liek that (possibly because I don't have an account
might be always available when you have an account.
 
So how's the quality?
 
@Yuuki flat out invisible.
 
Argh, near the cap on my "unlimited" mobile bandwidth, can't watch movie night :(
 
@GodEmperorDune :(
 
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Q: King's Quest: A Knight to Remember: Stuck with Only a Candle to my Name

Tom ThorogoodI'm in search of an eye. I decided to use to obtain the candle, which I successfully got However, every time I enter the cave and use the candle, All I have in my inventory are the candle and a bell. What am I missing?

 
10:27 PM
@FREDLEY WORST MOD
 
@Unionhawk pls
 
@AshleyNunn, you are best mod by default at this point
 
user15026
@Unionhawk Cool.
 
TIL @uni is one of @AshleyNunn's socks
To be fair, sometimes I wonder if everyone on SE is one of @AshleyNunn's socks
 
user15026
@GodEmperorDune I don't really like socks that much
 
10:44 PM
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Q: Meta-Inf Lacks-Minecraft PE

Dave13I wonder why there is no Meta-inf folder for Minecraft Pocket Edition. I just think its improper to have no Meta-inf for Pocket Edition mods. Weird to have this lacking problem, but I think it's super duper improper to have almost no Meta-inf folder.

 
@Lazers c++ is why
 
All right everyone, Movie Night is about to start. Please have your tickets ready.
 
Do we need to show identification to the security agent too?
 
@Unionhawk As long as you have your Bridge Pass, you should be fine.
 
Are refreshments provided?
 
10:55 PM
Unfortunately, this is a BYOS venue.
Is this everyone? I'm only seeing @Rapitor and @Arperum in the room.
 
I'm otherwise unavailable (read: at a wedding reception)
(read: man I'm glad I'm 21 not that they've id'd me anyway)
 
Well, hopefully you can make it to tomorrow's showing.
 
Hopefully
 
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Q: PS4 controller charging when not plugged in

Mike MillerWell, this isn't really a question, more to find out if this has happened to anyone else. I've had my controller charging for a couple of hours, so I've unplugged it and according the the PS4 it's still charging. I've tried switching off the controller and PS4 and it still says it's charging. H...

 
11:11 PM
> we have designed drivers to hotels crowd of mostly recent college grads lets out a collective cheer
Yes
That is where I currently am
 
A place with "designed" drivers?
 
Goddammit
SwiftKey you're supposed to read my mind
 
I was going to mention it during the edit window but then decided against it
 
I'm on mobile anyway so it probably wouldn't have mattered
I'd not have competently caught it
At this point
There is no Unionhawk only zuul
Man I can't wait to return to campus
I can wait to start classes though
And I can wait to stop getting paid
Now that I think about it
 
I miss college so much
I wish it was free
I would be a professional student seriously
 
11:22 PM
Being an adult is terrible
 
Heh
 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
Yay fake adulthood
High five @uni
I do appreciate that college is high quality and as such it really can't be free to the extent that some people may wish. I'm also going to a private college so woo additional debt
But I still believe that long-term I made the better decision. And short term because Dayton is so fun
 
I don't even care about free I guess but the fucking loan shit needs to be overhauled
it shouldn't cost over 100 grand to go to college, any college.
 
Meh, possibly, my tuition is 40 a year at least
So
 
11:26 PM
interest rates pushed Ian's up almost that high and he went to a state school
 
Minus 16 in scholarship
Oh damn
 
on his loans I mean
 
So I'm fucked then
 
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Q: Microsoft Jackpot is not saving progress

NoneOfYourBusinessI have already been Level 8 but every time I launch the game, I have a different progress and themes are locked again, despite being logged into the XBOX Service. Is there any way to make the game save the progress?

 
Yeah, I was super-lucky in that regard >_<
 
11:27 PM
I managed to leave with only 5 grand but interest pushed it up to almost 10
 
Only loan I have at the moment is my car.
 
almost paid though. 2300 left!
 
Hooray! \o/
 
and Ian still has 80 grand left sooooo lol
 
11:28 PM
Damn :o
 
Did Steam remove its metascores?
Or was that just the metacritic?
 
That's the trick that UD does that works, everyone gets merit based aid and tuition is high, but it feels lower or something and it's really at best an expensive state school
I think that's about what I'm at, is Miami University of Ohio tuition, probably plus some
Yeah after scholarship it's still like 35 >_> I'm so boned
At least I still have the scholarship lifeline
 
FAE
Evening, Bridge
@spugsley yessss me toooooooo
 
They've been threatening to suspend it due to insufficient academic performance for a bit >_>
 
FAE
the first college I was accepted to was $49k a year, so I had to stop going
 
11:43 PM
@FAE Oh hi fremde!
Er, does that mean stranger or enemy?
 
FAE
they only gave me $8k in scholarships so I didn't want to start my life out with $160k debt
@RavenDreamer stranger
I think
 
My final principal of loan will be on the order of 140
 
FAE
eff you NYU
 
But I think it's been worth it
Overall
 
FAE
smart enough to get in, not rich enough to stay
 
11:45 PM
@RavenDreamer YOU
 
Hiya, Sam!
 
FAE
Jochem went to a technical university here and it cost him like 1200 euro a year, I was like, I couldn't even get a meal plan for a semester for that much
 
how goes the photographys?
 
@Unionhawk not to be a bubble buster but that may change when you get out :/ It starts to feel hopeless. And your min payment might be upwards of 1000 a month
 
Yep
I know that feel
 
11:46 PM
@FAE omg
@Unionhawk I'd say during your 6 month waiting period, talk to some banks about consolidating and getting your min payment lowered. We had to
 
Speaking of minimum payments
 
@spugsley I mean, worst case I have a solid fallback job, with a decent salary band prospect, so... Worst case I think I'll probably still manage.
 
guess who's about to saddle up with a mortgage?
 
FAE
@spugsley Yeah, and they had this thing where you got subsidies if you finished your degree, if you didn't finish it, you had to pay back what they lent you. He didn't finish his degree, so he had to start paying back, but when he got a job, they were like "You don't make enough money to be able to pay us back, so your loans are forgiven"
 
<--- This guy
 
FAE
11:48 PM
@RavenDreamer Congrats!
 
@FAE wooooow that's pretty awesome
@RavenDreamer grats! We love our house :D
 
@FAE Thanks. I'm a bit apprehensive.
 
I think if I continue at the company I am interning at, I can lobby to enter as a Developer III which would be nice
 
FAE
@spugsley Yeah, I was like WTF
 
Possibly
 
11:49 PM
@spugsley I'm getting a downtown Condo
 
We'll see
 
@RavenDreamer very cool :D We would have considered that if Charlotte had anything like that bahahaha
 
So, no huge house + yard, but still pretty nice!
 
paying back my wife's student loans is like a second mortgage
 
@spugsley Raleigh barely does either, though-- there are something like 20 construction projects going on downtown at the moment, and all of them are for apartments only.
 
FAE
11:49 PM
@spugsley The tuition here is more expensive if you're not Dutch, but even for foreigners, it's only like 10k-12k euro and I'm like "pffft, that's nothing", considering the US
 
Man why is stuff expensive
 
except we don't have a house, so i guess that makes it a first mortgage... >.>
all of the jobs i've gotten were specifically because of my education, so i guess i can't knock it too much
 
user15026
I had a 45K loan when I finished
 
user15026
and....I have yet to have a job that uses the degree. >.>
 
luckily i landed in compsci
 
FAE
11:51 PM
I'm slowly paying mine back down
I defaulted for a while because of depression :(
 
@GodEmperorDune Hear, hear!
 
user15026
But at least with OSAP (Ontario/Federal student loan stuff) they do nice stuff where they pay interest and junk and help you when you are out of money (like I was) or medically whatever (like I was)
 
@FAE Because you were depressed, or you being depressed made the economy sympathetically depressed?
 
FAE
so I had to go through a refinancing thing and everything when I finally got the oomph back up to start paying again
@RavenDreamer because I was depressed
 
while all the non-engineers were partying all thursday night, i was going to 8 AM lab friday morning :(
 
11:52 PM
@FAE That was the less amusing option. :( Better now though, yeah?
 
FAE
@RavenDreamer that was back a couple years ago that I did the refinancing stuff, have been dealing with some rough stuff lately, so I've been up and down since then
 
@GodEmperorDune protip don't sign up for 8ams
Ever
 
@FAE Well, I am quite ready to dispense high fives as needed. Just say the word. ;)
 
FAE
my childhood best friend's mother passed away suddenly at the end of June and it messed me up pretty bad
 
It's a bad time for everyone involved
 
user15026
11:54 PM
@Unionhawk I learned that the hard way by failing stuff purely because 8 am was just not a time my body thought it could ever be awake
 
ALSO WHO WANT SURE SGDQ WOULD RAISE A MILLION
ONE MILLION DOLLARS #SGDQ2015
 
FAE
@AshleyNunn yeah, back when I was still in college, 8am Spanish was something I missed consistently
 
user15026
@FAE 8 am psych of like....3 different kinds....
 
THATS RIGHT
 
user15026
(It took me a long time to figure that one out)
 
11:56 PM
SGDQ HAS BROKE A MILLION AGAIN
OH MAN
 
The worst for me was the 3 hour economics 101 class.
at 7:00 PM
 
FAE
@Unionhawk I can't believe the $12k donation didn't have a comment
 
I can
 
Why does SGDQ keep talking about killing or saving animals?
 
user15026
@RavenDreamer Evenings I could do.
 
FAE
11:59 PM
@RavenDreamer for the Super Metroid race
 
Like, in the escape sequence?
 
FAE
ja
 
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