The Bridge

Kevin van der Velden

12:00 PM

Wait... one retailer has an 8% discount on the PC download, and a 28% discount on the PC box (with free shipping)

fredley

@ardaozkal Right.

ardaozkal

Remember; startups aren't just new businesses with a few guys.

fredley

@ardaozkal Tell me then, what is a startup?

Wipqozn

Man, @fredley is taking his time to getting to "lots of peoples have ideas that never reach the business phase"

ardaozkal

@fredley A startup company or startup or start-up is an entrepreneurial venture or a new business in the form of a company, a partnership or temporary organization designed to search for a repeatable and scalable business model.

fredley

12:11 PM

@ardaozkal What differentiates a startup from a new business that is not a startup?

@ardaozkal Also you copied that from Wikipedia

I'd prefer to hear it in your own words

ardaozkal

New business != startup

New business E startup

fredley

@ardaozkal So what's the difference?

ardaozkal

Idea + team = startup

fredley

@ardaozkal Nope. Let's say I have a team of people and we want to build a car and drive it to Mongolia. Is that a startup?

ardaozkal

Yep

fredley

12:16 PM

@ardaozkal So if I pitched that idea to investors, do you think they'd give me money?

ardaozkal

The idea doesn't always have to be good.

fredley

@ardaozkal It depends what you mean by "idea". Google, Facebook, Microsoft, Apple - none of these companies had any original ideas. There were already loads of search engines, there were already loads of social networks, there were already operating systems, etc.

Private Pansy

fredley

@ardaozkal What if my idea is to open a coffee shop. Is a new coffee shop a startup?

Private Pansy

I appear to be Made in China, which surprisingly enough is actually accurate

fredley

12:20 PM

I'd like to participate in this conversation, but I can't be bothered to take my clothes off.

ardaozkal

@fredley on the bus. Can you give me 15 mins?

Private Pansy

@fredley Strip! For science!

2

fredley

@ardaozkal What I'm winding up to is this Paul Graham essay anyway. Have a read.

@ardaozkal If you're in any way serious about actually starting a startup company, you should read all of these essays.

Kevin van der Velden

That's a lot of essays

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden Yup, and it's well worth reading every single one. Not all of them are great, and not all of them are necessarily right, but it's important to know this stuff.

Nate Kerkhofs

12:28 PM

@KevinvanderVelden where did you find that 41% discount? The rest is all less than 33% discount

djsmiley2k

oooooo a gameboy colour

Kevin van der Velden

Uuh, mediamarkt.nl

Which ships to... the netherlands

At least I think it was mediamarkt, shrug

Some dutch site

djsmiley2k

and it works \o/

Nate Kerkhofs

@KevinvanderVelden I just checked mediamarkt.be. They are 38.99 EUR. It's 1 EUR cheaper, but the closest Mediamarkt is a 30 minute bus trip

Kevin van der Velden

@NateKerkhofs well, there's other places for the same price: tweakers.net/pricewatch/448594/fallout-4-pc-(windows).html

Nate Kerkhofs

12:32 PM

@KevinvanderVelden same price? Nope. Only one for less than 40 EUR is mediamarkt

even bol.com is 42 EUR.

Kevin van der Velden

Intertoys and bartsmit, and excluding shipping nedgame

Nate Kerkhofs

@KevinvanderVelden Again, I don't have either of those stores nearby

Kevin van der Velden

Also bol.com is 43 =p

ardaozkal

@fredley I'm serious, and I'll mail them to our guy with an idea.

Nate Kerkhofs

The reason I bought it at Game Mania was because I was visiting my doctor who lives like 500 meters from there

Kevin van der Velden

12:33 PM

@NateKerkhofs they both also deliver. But again, is dutch

Nate Kerkhofs

so from my doctor to game mania was like 2-3 minutes detour compared to just going home

Okay, forget about Intertoys, No way i'm buying from a store that can't even show their products without Flash

Actually, it's not even Flash, it's Shockwave

or is that the same thing these days?

Kevin van der Velden

What flash?

Nate Kerkhofs

this flash

Kevin van der Velden

@NateKerkhofs I see no flash

Oh now I do

fredley

Arperum

12:39 PM

@fredley Why do you always have to try to cause nightmares?

fredley

This site has the creepy mascot

Arperum

2 mins ago, by Arperum

@fredley Why do you always have to try to cause nightmares?

Nate Kerkhofs

Again, it was a spur of the moment purchase. I was just visiting the store to see if there are any interesting deals, because they usually have some decent deals at the end of January

That clown was a major part of the childhood of many Dutch and Belgian children, btw

ardaozkal

YO @fredley

creepify this

Kevin van der Velden

2

nukeforum

12:43 PM

@NateKerkhofs This is horrifying

Also, good morning Bridge!

fredley

djsmiley2k

o_O

ardaozkal

spooky scary morningus @nukeforum

djsmiley2k

he's doing it again guys!

fredley

3 mins ago, by fredley

ardaozkal

12:44 PM

@fredley spookify this:

Kevin van der Velden

2

Nate Kerkhofs

Okay, time to close this shit down

Kevin van der Velden

^ that is absolutely horrifying

Deep dreams is the worst

Nate Kerkhofs

Who would be the mod to call about this?

Kevin van der Velden

Also the best

But mostly the worst

ardaozkal

12:45 PM

@NateKerkhofs @arda

Frank

Okay, can we stop with the nightmare fuel?

Kevin van der Velden

Heh, sure

nukeforum

More like really blurry images

than nightmare fuel

Nate Kerkhofs

Okay, that's it. Time to go and make a REAL abomination in FO4

nukeforum

except for that one clown photo, eff that

Kevin van der Velden

12:46 PM

I do like the flow me and @fredley had going. He jpeg-ified them, I made them worse with deep dream

fredley

I've lost my dd setup

Kevin van der Velden

@nukeforum you don't like bassy? :(

@fredley deepdreamgenerator.com

Not as good as one on your own pc but

fredley

Oh no wait I found it

RIP Bridge

Wipqozn

@fredley Very nice read

nukeforum

@KevinvanderVelden no >:( His eye... paint thing looks really disturbing for some reason

Kevin van der Velden

12:48 PM

@fredley Maximum overRIP

fredley

@Wipqozn Yup. pg is a source of great wisdom on startups

ardaozkal

@fredley deep rip

GnomeSlice

The Prophet - Ordinary Life (KATFYR Remix)

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Sans getting high, this describes me

ish

I mean I don't party either

ardaozkal

GnomeSlice

when 'Friday' comes around I just sit around eating pizza and playing battlefront

nukeforum

12:51 PM

@ardaozkal Yes

Arperum

5 mins ago, by Frank

Okay, can we stop with the nightmare fuel?

ardaozkal

oh sorry

gaben in your dreams wouldn't be that bad though.

GnomeSlice

uh

well

lucky for me I don't dream

ardaozkal

in Maid Café (メイド喫茶), 18 secs ago, by Chinatsu-creepy-chan

Is it normal to feel fat when ur fat

fredley

@ardaozkal Please don't post stuff from Maid Cafe in here

ardaozkal

12:54 PM

@fredley k

Wipqozn

@fredley Why not?

Arperum

@ardaozkal I'm not interested in the whole braindead stupid pcmasterrace gaben god thing. I do not want him in my dreams.

fredley

@Wipqozn It's a pretty creepy place

Arperum

@GnomeSlice You do dream, but you just can't remember. Same for me in 99.9% of the cases.

Wipqozn

@fredley So is your moms basement

OH WHAAAAAAT

ardaozkal

12:56 PM

BUUUUUUURN

fredley

@Wipqozn My mom's basement isn't full of borderline nude cartoons of borderline underage girls though.

Wipqozn

@fredley That's true

I don't really frequent that chat enough to know the kind of content they usually post

Lazers 2.0

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Q: OBS Question - Streaming without performance loss!

can you tell me the best OBS settings so that I can stream without in-game lag? I don't mind if the quality is worse. CPU: i5-4590 GPU: GTX 750 Only twitch streaming. Playing CS:GO 1920x1080

fredley

@Wipqozn Hint: if you don't want borderline nude cartoons of borderline underage girls cached on your computer, don't even read the transcript.

nukeforum

Is the Bridge D&D campaign still going by any chance?

Wipqozn

12:59 PM

@nukeforum I don't think it ever staarted

cc @Yuuki I think?

nukeforum

Bummer

Frank

@Lazers2.0 Dupe of his previous question.

nukeforum

I really like D&D, but I don't have a group to play w/

two bugs

Hm. So I wasn't planning on taking today off, it's just someone broke our server and my attempts to fix it have all failed

I have nothing I can really do today otherwise

Frank

@twobugs Nobody else can fix it?

fredley

1:03 PM

Server is permabroke, company closing down presumably

two bugs

Only person who can fix it is a general IT guy for several areas, no idea when he could get to it

Server is still up, just a few random parts are not working whatsoever

Frank

Sounds like you need another general IT guy.

GnomeSlice

@Arperum I actually don't, I've been to the hospital for studies and stuff

0% of my sleep cycle is stage 4

which is where you dream

Arperum

@GnomeSlice wat. That's super weird.

GnomeSlice

I haven't dreamed since i was like 8

apparently

ardaozkal

1:07 PM

woah

djsmiley2k

yeah I believe I've fdallen into something simular

nukeforum

@GnomeSlice Sad :(

djsmiley2k

I stopped noticing im dreaming

and I believe I'm not sleeping deeply enough, which explains why I'm so dang tired

GnomeSlice

Which is also why I don't feel rested when I wake up I guess

djsmiley2k

^^

In the last 6 months, there's been 3-4 mornings when I've woke up actually feeling refreshed and alive

GnomeSlice

1:08 PM

I don't think it's as uncommon as people think to not get to stage4 every once in a while

djsmiley2k

and most of those I recall having some kind of dream at the time

@GnomeSlice agreed

but for some of us, it seems to become stuck that way (me and you it seems)

two bugs

@GnomeSlice ...Damn

fredley

Sort out your sleep quality, yo

djsmiley2k

Currently awaiting my sleep study, but that shows nothing I might actually lose it :/

GnomeSlice

I have 'dreams' sometimes when i think im still awake, like trying to fall asleep

djsmiley2k

1:10 PM

waking dreams? ewww

ardaozkal

@GnomeSlice oooh, they SUCK

djsmiley2k

sleep paralyisis too @GnomeSlice ?

ardaozkal

I sometimes face that, and it sucks

GnomeSlice

Like when im still aware of stufd in the room

fredley

@GnomeSlice If you want to dream, just set an alarm for 30 mins before your normal alarm. Wake up, turn it off, 30 mins of uber-dreams, then real alarm.

GnomeSlice

1:10 PM

Idk what sleep paralysis is

nukeforum

@djsmiley2k Lucky, I only have felt that way a handful of times in my life

ardaozkal

@djsmiley2k depersonalization

djsmiley2k

@fredley once again, I wsh.

two bugs

@Frank Well we have several general IT people... they're just general for the whole university of ~40k people :P We're also in a somewhat screwy situation where we're between departments so we have no specific IT support...

djsmiley2k

@GnomeSlice you're 'awake' mentally, but you can 't move your body

Frank

1:11 PM

@twobugs Oh, one of those situations.

ardaozkal

Depersonalization

Depersonalization (or depersonalisation) is an anomaly of self-awareness. It can consist of a reality or detachment within the self, regarding one's mind or body, or being a detached observer of oneself. Subjects feel they have changed, and the world has become vague, dreamlike, less real, or lacking in significance. It can be a disturbing experience. Chronic depersonalization refers to depersonalization/derealization disorder, which is classified by the DSM-5 as a dissociative disorder. Though degrees of depersonalization and derealization can happen to anyone who is subject to temporary a...

GnomeSlice

That's never happened to me

djsmiley2k

^^ I've had that happen to

was horrible :/

two bugs

Basically, you're sort of awake but you can't move and you still have nightmare-esque stuff happening to you

GnomeSlice

I had a seizure once though

ardaozkal

1:11 PM

Sleep paralysis

Sleep paralysis is a phenomenon in which a person either during falling asleep (hypnagogia) or awakening (hypnopompia), temporarily experiences an inability to move, speak, or react. It is a transitional state between wakefulness and sleep, characterized by muscle atonia (muscle weakness). It is often accompanied by terrifying hallucinations (such as an intruder in the room) to which one is unable to react due to paralysis, and physical experiences (such as strong current running through the upper body). One hypothesis is that it results from disrupted REM sleep, which normally induces complete...

two bugs

I.E. Demons or Aliens or whatever

GnomeSlice

never told anybody about it till a long time later

djsmiley2k

Once in my dream I realised i was dreaming

and started screwaming for my wife to wake me up because I was stuck in a dream

Sterno

Is there any reason to do all the act bounties in D3, or is it most efficient to just do the act that gets a bonus, then start a new game?

fredley

@djsmiley2k 0/10 lucid dreaming

nukeforum

1:12 PM

@Sterno Bounty bags

ardaozkal

@Sterno the bonus gets moved to another act when you finish the bonus act.

GnomeSlice

Why does everyone play for efficiency

ardaozkal

@GnomeSlice time is limited.

Sterno

@GnomeSlice Why would I do the exact same thing for less gear?

GnomeSlice

oh is it the same

Sterno

1:13 PM

Always fun getting a new weapon that's +105% damage

two bugs

@Sterno If you just want maximum efficiency remake for bounty bags, but sometimes the RNG hates you and wont pick the acts you need

GnomeSlice

How long is the campaign, my teleport location map is pretty full already

two bugs

5 acts, each one has a different map

GnomeSlice

Also I found a sorta broken combo that uses thorns with crusader

ardaozkal

GnomeSlice

1:14 PM

my horse skill oneshots everythinf now

Arperum

@GnomeSlice Heart of iron legendary?

two bugs

Turn up the difficulty then :)

GnomeSlice

I have like 1200 thorns because i found some chest armor that goves me 284% my vit as thorns

Arperum

Yup. Heart of iron.

GnomeSlice

Horsie OP

Arperum

1:15 PM

I used a lvl 16 version of that item until lvl 65. WHere I could put it in the kanai cube so I still had the bonus.

GnomeSlice

Do legendaries come at different level reqs too or is it always the same

mine is like level 18

two bugs

Different reqs. They scale to the level you are when you pick them up

Arperum

@GnomeSlice You get higher level ones later, I have had a couple lvl 70 hearts of iron now too.

@GnomeSlice Yea, it's a seriously good item until you find a better copy of it.

Although at this point my horse is not that good anymore though. It stopped instakilling things somewhere around T2 or something I think.

I now only use it to charge into another group that is about to get murdered.

GnomeSlice

Heh

I use shield bash, sweep attack, shield blind thing, punish, and smite

and horse atm

smite is real good

Arperum

For the build I have you need the six item bonus of the thorns of the invoker set though.

GnomeSlice

1:20 PM

Heh

I probably won't follow any particular build

i suck at that kind of thing

Arperum

And once I finally get the shield I want it's going to get a lot better even.

GnomeSlice

Getting off bus

Arperum

I didn't follow any build until a good distance into lvl 70, and then checked some and modified stuff to fit me.

ardaozkal

1:37 PM

@Arperum Same. I was handling T2 max on my char. I turned it into a good build, and it handled T10

Arperum

@ardaozkal I modified maybe 2 or three skills. And I'm still not identical to the build.

I like how my sheet dps shows 86k and I fly through GRift 42 in < 6 minutes.

nukeforum

@Arperum Sheet DPS is ridiculously badly calculated

Arperum

@nukeforum Well,... It just doesn't account for any sorts of thorns. And I changed the damage stat of my weapon into attackspeed.

so my actual damage is a disaster, but I apply my thorns damage on hit, so that results in massive damage.

Nate Kerkhofs

Why won't my Fallout 4 mods load? I'm using the Nexus Mod Manager, followed the tutorial, but the mods won't activate

well, mods, more lik mod

I want to install the Full Dialogue Interface mod because fuck the dialogue wheel

but the checkbox won't appear next to the nexus mod manager when I try to install a mod

Unionhawk

FRIDAY

8:30am wake up in the morning

Private Pansy

1:45 PM

@Unionhawk And then promptly collapse back into bed again

Unionhawk

Until 8:45 then run to class no time for cereal

Private Pansy

Fuck Fridays

Fuck Tuesdays

Fuck Wednesdays

Fuck Mondays

Oh, and fuck Thursdays

Unionhawk

If I get back and those are still there

Sterno

Gotta catch my bus. I see my friends.

Some people just can't be trusted with stars.

nukeforum

@Arperum Well, that's my problem with the way D3 calculates damage. They don't bother accounting for legendary properties that change the way your damage is calculated on every hit.

Arperum

1:58 PM

@nukeforum True. They don't account for a lot of things.

Grand Theft Sled

@badp

8

2:13 PM

7

fredley

6

Private Pansy

5

Ronan Forman

4

3

Kevin van der Velden

Chat, what are you doing?

3

ardaozkal

the 8 thing was a misclick

Actual post

What am I watching?! (Cancer and Undertale Spoilers included)

Ronan Forman

2:15 PM

@KevinvanderVelden Trying to post the number 5.

Kevin van der Velden

YOU ALL FAIL

ardaozkal

wrong side of youtube

fredley

All 'sides' of YouTube are the wrong side of YouTube

ardaozkal

@fredley you are correct

Grand Theft Auto San Andreas - Carl Johnson "CJ" Fat Quotes

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Private Pansy

@fredley I didn't know YouTube existed in the third dimension

@KevinvanderVelden FAIL-TALITY

fredley

2:19 PM

@PrivatePansy 2D things can have any number of sides

Things that exist outside of the concept of dimensionality can also have any number of sides

Incremental you may not have played

2

Kevin van der Velden

@fredley quit at the intro screen because it's to bloody frustrating. That's a first

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden Hahahaha

Kevin van der Velden

I am not kidding. I tried to use javascript to just delete the intro but that didn't work so I closed it

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden The music and sounds are also awful

nukeforum

The beginning is too long, I quit

fredley

2:32 PM

The game certainly isn't worth it

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Is there a merchant who sells shipments of wood?

I can't seem to get enough wood. After some recent expansions to some of my settlements, I find myself running pretty low on wood these days. I've been salvaging as much raw material as possible and have even taken to buying any junk that includes wood, but it takes a heck of a lot of brooms to...

fallout-4

Kevin van der Velden

23 hours ago, by Private Pansy

3 hours ago, by fredley

^ my day so far

“Herbal” Cough Syrup Recalled Because Its Secret Ingredient Is Morphine

Wut...

fredley

@KevinvanderVelden nice

nukeforum

@KevinvanderVelden Just told my co-worker about this, he's gonna spend his bonus trying to a pallet before it goes out

thanks for the heads up

fredley

@nukeforum ಠ_ಠ

nukeforum

2:41 PM

@fredley ^-^

MBraedley

@KevinvanderVelden What? Poppy seeds aren't considered herbal?

Frank

Herbal opium, sure.

Private Pansy

They're drugs, in both sense of the word

Yuuki

Considering that the FDA is having them "voluntarily" recall it, it probably has high amounts of morphine. Must be pretty serious considering the FDA doesn't regulate herbal supplements and stuff at all.

MrLemon

boooooooooooredom

uhh... I meant, hi there

Kevin van der Velden

2:58 PM

@Yuuki it stops being a herbal supplement when it has morphine in it =p

Unionhawk

Morphine is under the jurisdiction of the fda though and it's a schedule 2 controlled substance

(which is the step below "is illegal")

(my prescription is schedule 2 that's how I know these specifics. Filling a controlled substance prescription is annoying)

Kevin van der Velden

Visual studio, why aren't you debugging?

If I wanted a text editor without debugging capabillities I would use vim

Because it's better at it

Unionhawk

Is it not attaching to the process?

Kevin van der Velden

It hits the breakpoint once, and then stops (i.e. stops hitting the breakpoint)

Despite it going through the code again and again

Unionhawk

That's weird

So it's attached but not breaking?

Arperum

3:04 PM

@KevinvanderVelden Did you add some special conditions to your breakpoint? Or is this for all breakpoints?

Unionhawk

Are you doing it wrong?

Kevin van der Velden

All breakpoints

@Unionhawk probably

Unionhawk

That's usually the problem for me

Kevin van der Velden

Oh well, break time o/

(With potato chips and such)

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden Ooooh, can you throw me some?

No half assed throwing though, that would be waste.

> Divided. Fruit brought they’re they’re. Cattle him shall brought winged wherein.
Whales itself she’d created a moveth Moved moved very greater unto said earth winged, tree were. Abundantly behold creepeth.

This is some interesting lorem ipsum like text.

I wish I knew where it was generated.

nukeforum

3:11 PM

@Arperum randomtext.me

choose gibberish

ardaozkal

Gawky less more blissful up less remade slid dear sang swung blatant this fed darn conductively far grinned cute hey miserly exact crud alas more inaudibly on quit fallible.

Legitimately faultily oh the yikes that jeepers inconspicuous exited wherever then as oh and less tortoise the inside less crud more alas and listless.

And admirable teasingly dutiful emotional crud woodpecker blindly dark at and far possessive ostrich alas goodness lost wherever adept fit darn consolingly less past and densely voluble satanically so and radiant jokingly habitually.

Arperum

@ardaozkal This doesn't tell me anything?

ardaozkal

@Arperum it is random

randomtext.me/#/gibberish/p-5/20-35

Arperum

@ardaozkal Yes, don't do random all the time. It gets annoying.

Yuuki

Okay, I'm going to try streaming again.

It looks like the stream is lagging behind really bad.

ardaozkal

3:18 PM

@Yuuki just behind? that is normal

But if you have frame losses, that is bad.

Yuuki

I started a New Game like two minutes ago and according to my Video Preview, it's still on the save file select screen.

ardaozkal

@Yuuki OBS?

Yuuki

Yeah.

Kevin van der Velden

11 mins ago, by nukeforum

@Arperum http://www.randomtext.me/

Also tosses chips

Lazers 2.0

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Q: Are there trade-offs to blunt vs sharp weapons?

There seem to be two general categories of melee weapons in Dying Light: blunt (bats, hammers, pipes, etc.) and sharp (knives, swords, cleavers, etc.). Some sharp weapons have a trade-off of damage for an increased attack speed (ex. dagger), that is not quite what I'm talking about. My questio...

dying-light

Arperum

3:30 PM

@KevinvanderVelden How long would it take until they arrive? I kinda want to not stand outside for hours waiting to catch them.

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum well, assuming they're not eaten by birds, 2-3 work days

nukeforum

@KevinvanderVelden Isn't @Arperum in a different country? That's a princess Zelda-level toss right there.

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden SO they just hang in midair during the weekend?

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum yes.

Arperum

@nukeforum It's only like 200-300km away.

nukeforum

3:32 PM

@Arperum Still... :P

Arperum

@nukeforum Yea, that's why I specifically requested no half assed throws.

Kevin van der Velden

@nukeforum also:

The Most Complex Borders in Europe: Why Do We Have Nations?

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MBraedley

@nukeforum 200-300 km is not a very far distance. That's easily doable as a day trip.

Kevin van der Velden

I'm fairly sure you can toss through a few border countries if you want

@MBraedley you try throwing something that far though =p

Arperum

@MBraedley Or after work on a weekday evening: source: been there, done that.

ardaozkal

3:36 PM

Ah damnit

At the grift boss

SaintWacko

MBraedley

@Arperum I've done over 400km after work for a weekend trip.

Kevin van der Velden

@MBraedley he's done 200-300km after work for a concert, and then back home =p

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden And that was on a weekday. On a weekend I've done easily double that distance on a single day (400 one way)

@ardaozkal You don't repair your items every rift?

ardaozkal

Reached P490. Planning to get to 600 tomorrow, and 700 in 3 days. 800 until Rise of Tomb Raider gets released.

Arperum

3:42 PM

Or you die?

ardaozkal

@Arperum I do, but I forgot to this time.

@Arperum I do

Arperum

@ardaozkal Don't.

ardaozkal

That is easy to say.

Arperum

Play hardcore and repair costs are not a real issue anymore.

@ardaozkal paragon 199 in hardcore this season?

Private Pansy

@SaintWacko The latest What If seems to be inspired by a scene in Iain M Banks' story "The State of the Art"

GnomeSlice

3:44 PM

Dalton Richmond - Majestic

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Lazers 2.0

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Q: Where is the crow

I am having a real issue with hunting this bird down, and i'm actually beginning to think my game may have possible glitched. I found the bird more-or-less straight away but then it flew away. I've hunted high and low for it, day and night and I cannot find it anywhere. I've looked in all the p...