The Bridge

@Unionhawk So, sharing accounts = nope.

@Lazers That means this question needs more close votes.

Listening to U2's Songs of Innocence ... it's ... interesting

@Frank sharing accounts on same computer seems to be fair game though.

@Rapitor Well, we're getting into very murky territory on that one.

Q: It's possible change the speedometer from mph to km/h?

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In Midnight club 3 Los Angeles (ps3, complete edition). It's possible change the speedometer from mph to km/h?

midnight-club-los-angeles

6:05 PM

@Frank sharing account != distributing game

@Batophobia Your account is part of your game.

Or at least, that's how I read it.

@Batophobia with minecraft your game is tied to your account, so if you share your account, you are sharing the game as well.

Yeah, it's not entirely clear. If I know mojang, they would probably be mostly okay, but it's hard to tell. Personally, I say that isn't piracy per se.

"you are not allowed to distribute the Game"

nothing about sharing

As long as it's on the same computer etc

6:07 PM

Going from established precedent with other games, sharing account info is always a no-no, so unless there's a specific exception, I'm gonna go with leaning towards not supporting account sharing.

@Unionhawk If I use the same account on 2 computers then?

@Unionhawk yeah, they would probably be cool with it, but we aren't lawyers.

better to just say no and don't go near any questions on legal

I mean, sharing an account with someone for them to use on - yeah this is messy

If there's actual code to prohibit you from logging in twice at the same time, then I think we can go with, "not allowed" pretty safely.

There'd be no other reason to add that.

@Frank And if you do not play at the same time?

6:11 PM

@Batophobia Doesn't matter.

The intent is going to be whether or not they intended you to be logged in more than once.

If there's code that doesn't let you, then we're definitely in not allowed territory.

Steam Family Sharing allows this, not sure why we are suddenly calling it illegal

@Batophobia Steam offers a legal method of doing so, with restrictions built into it.

Or...y'know, it may not even be legal. We don't know.

If what Steam was doing is illegal, there definitely would be something said

Like I said, it's in pretty murky territory. I personally think it's not kosher.

Sharing doesn't have to mean two people are using it at the same time.

I can play minecraft from as many different computers as I want.

6:14 PM

@Frank That's like saying playing split-screen is illegal

6 mins ago, by Frank

Going from established precedent with other games, sharing account info is always a no-no, so unless there's a specific exception, I'm gonna go with leaning towards not supporting account sharing.

Never mind the always fun security concerns inherent in sharing account info.

So letting a friend borrow a disc of Halo 2 is illegal?

I get the viewpoint of looking at it as a single copy in use by two different people. In other situations, I'd have no issue with this; just edit out the part about them sharing.

@Batophobia Does he get your username and password when you do it?

As long as the account is only being used from one location at a time, there is no problem.

@OrigamiRobot Even if it isn't, still not a problem if it is not being used simultaneously

6:17 PM

They're not playing at the same time, and there isn't a technical reason sharing would cause this problem that I'm aware of.

@Batophobia That's why I added "at a time"

It all depends on where you fall on classifying this as piracy. shrug We can probably debate this all day and not come up with a clear picture.

@Unionhawk yeah, this question's problem is different from what is said, if she edited to remove all points about sharing it would be a valid question... a dupe probably, but valid

FAE

@TimStone Yeeeeah, this is why Jochem travels on his Canadian passport now.

Yeah, I'm in the camp of allow it, but it's probably a dupe or unclear

6:19 PM

And regardless of sharing, this question is really, "Why does this work on one machine and not another?"

Exactly

@OrigamiRobot Which we don't have enough info to answer, anyways, so the point is somewhat moot.

Only somewhat though.

We're back in the whole, "What counts as supporting piracy?" debate. This could be have a pretty straightforward solution, but does helping someone that didn't pay for the game count as piracy? I think it does, but it really is rather up for personal interpretation.

I really don't think it matters in this context.

6:23 PM

@Unionhawk How not? It's part of the information we are given. We are free to help, or not, as we choose based on that context.

Is the problem piracy related? Probably not, but it's somewhat hard to tell. We have only their word on them not using it at the same time.

It doesn't matter who payed for it.

One license was bought, one license is being used.

The fact that two people are using an account versus one isn't technically relevant, and doesn't impact the answer.

@OrigamiRobot We have only their word on that.

It may, or may not, be relevant.

@Frank If I lend you a physical copy of the game, should Arqade refuse to answer your questions on it?

We have their word on every asker that they bought the game.

6:25 PM

@Batophobia And again:

9 mins ago, by Frank

@Batophobia Does he get your username and password when you do it?

You're kinda sidestepping that whole issue.

"does helping someone that didn't pay for the game count as piracy? I think it does"

Should we close every single question for piracy because suddenly their word isn't good enough?

accounts are not an issue

@Batophobia Can you play Minecraft without a username and password?

Delete all questions.

6:26 PM

I honestly don't know; I don't play.

Fire Drills are so much fun

@Frank Classic edition, yes

@RPiAwesomeness Okay. That's one thing out of the way.

Can you play multiplayer without one?

Otherwise, you can technically get a hacked client

@RPiAwesomeness does that still exist? I thought it was removed/phased out when creative mode came out

6:27 PM

@Frank Classic multiplayer

@Rapitor Nope, still very much around

minecraft.net/classic

Lending someone your account to play Minecraft is no different than lending them a physical copy of a different game

@Batophobia According to, oh, I don't know, every single EULA EVER, yes, they are.

Not supported and no updates, but still

@RPiAwesomeness is classic multiplayer a thing?

@Batophobia Eh...not really. You can have multiple people playing single player MC with the same account

6:28 PM

It was yes

According to Arqade's stance, we try to enforce EULAs. I don't know why, but there it is.

@RPiAwesomeness You cannot

@Arperum Yeah: minecraft.net/classic/list

@Batophobia Yes you can...last I checked. Have they changed that with 1.8?

If you log on then remove the internet connection, maybe

You can't. The server checks for players with the same username/uuid

6:29 PM

@Unionhawk Single player

Oh, then yes you can have multiple single player sessions up on one computer

That's absolutely a thing

3ventic

Remove internet but keep LAN and you can have a LAN party with one account

If you log on to the launcher, I suspect it would prevent a different machine

never tested it though

@Batophobia Nope.

I've done it :)

I don't know about different machine.

But same computer 100%

6:31 PM

@3ventic Really? they all have the same username, so when one person joins he kicks the others out of the server, doesn't he?

I was at a friend's house and they were gonna play and said I could just borrow his sister's account and I loaded it up on my PC just fine.

How would 2 people play at the same time on the same machine?

@Arperum Yeah

3ventic

@Arperum That might fail, true...

You tell me.

6:32 PM

@Batophobia lol, dual monitors/keyboards/mice?

:)

And yes, the game checks usernames, and refuses any duplicate usernames

Q: Minecraft Materials and Spawn

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I cannot find the spawn egg things, I have already tried options and what not. Help?! And I also need more material.

minecraft

@RPiAwesomeness And one window would have focus so all inputs should direct to it

@Batophobia Yeah. I seriously have no clue...maybe separate VNC sessions?

Sounds like a question for SuperUser

6:33 PM

lol

We'd have to incorporate toasters somehow and it'll be a hit

I have 3.1 unicorns

@Batophobia Amazing

@Batophobia Why did you cut scotland's national animal up?

@Unionhawk And Weasels

@Arperum oooo.... Burn

6:35 PM

@Arperum not cut up, building it .001 at a time

This kittens game is addicting

@arperum I take it you watched last week tonight too?

@Unionhawk A certain @badp posted it here this morning.

Dang...Varien is good :)

Oic

That's seriously the best.

@memescientist is rude as fuck.

Doesn't even attempt to be polite.

6:36 PM

@Batophobia the kittens eat like crazy animals though. 4 farmers for 1 scholar and 1 woodcutter.

There's no need to call me "incompotent as fuck", when you could just politely link me to the relevant meta.

For reference, the top voted answers on metas here and here would seem to indicate that it is a fine practice when the title is so generic it could apply to almost any game ever. (And I was not the ONLY one who approved that edit)

So, welcome to my ignore list. Permanently. None of The Bridge's problematic repeat offenders (who, out of politeness I will not be naming) have this dubious honour. So congratulations, you are king of the douchenozzles.

@Arperum Yea in the winter you have to put more on farming

Wait....who's in trouble w. Trent?

ah

:P

@Batophobia It's 8:30PM, so I'm seriosuly getting hungry, gonna make food, but then I can't micromanage the game, so I need to run a winter setup all the time...

@Arperum Same here, but with it being 1:30 and me wanting lunch time :P

6:39 PM

It's too strong for turbo.ahk to work properly too

@TrentHawkins </rant>?

@Batophobia How many kitten do you have?

8

@TrentHawkins I assumed as soon as I saw the report pop up that said user got chat suspended for it.

@Batophobia Buttons pushed. Offending user silenced forever. no more problem.

6:40 PM

@Batophobia No, he got somewhat attacked by a certain user.

@TrentHawkins cookie

@TrentHawkins Using the room-specific ban?

@Arperum Just verifying the initial venting was complete

@RPiAwesomeness Using I-can-no-longer-see-idiots.

ah :)

6:42 PM

This winter earnings are stupid. 0.23 catnip/ arbitrary unit.

@TrentHawkins I prefer @fredley's chat burning script

@Arperum Ugh. Terrible

Where was that Dark SE Chat theme again...

This one

Now to figure out how to install it...

@RPiAwesomeness O_o

Darnit. Can't simply install it via Greasemonkey

how to inject css....

6:49 PM

Never mind. Go look up the theme yourself. Stupid weird Github links...

dangit

@TrentHawkins And he is constantly changing names so it's hard to keep my auto-hide script up to date.

Can't wait till I can afford to finish buying the parts for my PC :)

@RPiAwesomeness What happened to a $500 budget? :P

@OrigamiRobot What do you mean?

I've still got that...I know I'm going to earn it prior to Black Friday/Cyber Monday so that's what I planned on.

oookay....this isn't what I was expecting...

I'm not sure what I should be doing with these kittens now.

6:55 PM

I wasn't expecting brown...

I thought it was a lighter gray

Huh

@OrigamiRobot Click the small village link.

Aha. Found it :)

Also your kitten consume 2 catnip /unit.

Dangit. Nope

@Arperum I'm on year 51. I'm past the basics.

6:58 PM

@OrigamiRobot How was I supposed to know that?

I wasn't trying to be snarky, I was letting you know...

@OrigamiRobot Text is not one of the best mediums of bringing intonation.

So you default to me being rude? :(

@OrigamiRobot You defaulted to me being offended :(

@OrigamiRobot Well, it's better than defaulting to you being nude.

7:01 PM

But @OrigamiRobot always defaults to being nude.

Sep 10 at 8:17, by badp

@Arperum GUTTER STATUS: [ ] HEAD [ ] NO HEAD [×] ARPERUM

:)

@FEichinger I am always nice to you. So, so nice.

strokes @FEichinger's hair

Sooooooo niiiiiiiiiiice.

Q: Is a single class focus disadvantageous in Hearthstone?

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I'm getting ready to enter my first Hearthstone tournament since its local and cheap to enter. I'm still lacking a lot of cards having only spent $50 on the 40 pack and haven't bought Naxx yet. Think I might this weekend though to up my capabilities before the tourny. This particular one is usin...

hearthstone

@FEichinger Even when he's using a computer?

7:02 PM

#Sloth

@Powerlord Especially when he's using a computer. Remember his whole no-pants thing? Yeah.

spugsley

HI GUYYYYYYYSSSSSSSSSSSSS

HELLLOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Sep 19 '13 at 19:35, by OrigamiRobot

@MichaelDunfield The delicious spite with which this was posted overrides my hatred of sloths.

Anyhow, none of this is telling me what I should do with my kittens

7:11 PM

@OrigamiRobot I mean, "smelter" is marked green, so...

@TimStone That's because I'm using it

FAE

@OrigamiRobot What is that?

@FAE Kitten Game

FAE

@OrigamiRobot incremental thing?

bloodrizer.ru/games/kittens/#

Yes

7:14 PM

@OrigamiRobot Those poor kittens

@OrigamiRobot where do I get it?

@TrentHawkins In all fairness, he did get a suspension for that.

Q: Running a managed server backup from my desktop

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I used to run a server on a hosted setup that used multicraft. I have a backup of the directory (zip file generated from the host's interface) as it existed before I cancelled service. Is it possible to run this locally? If so, what do I need to do to get it running? I'm pretty sure I was run...

minecraft minecraft-server

2 mins ago, by Origami Robot

http://bloodrizer.ru/games/kittens/#

@OrigamiRobot there's no way that was 2 mins ago

7:17 PM

@OrigamiRobot Okay, keeping this for when I get home.

but refreshing showed the link 2 mins ago as well

oh well, thanks

@Frank In all fairness, Fuck him. He doesn't deserve the courtesy of being told the time by his watch.

lol, Pixl Rat Twist is something else :D

@OrigamiRobot: @AshleyNunn found a fiasco playset we should play

Feeds

Sterno has added Wipqozn to the list of this room's owners.

7:24 PM

Oh dear. Everyone hide

/me hides under a tin-foil covered rock

Blem

@JasonBerkan Or did they?

@Chippies that 2 minutes ago is just a difference in timestamps of the two messages, rounded to the nearest minute. Looks about right to me.

@Sterno is merely performing a public service

@MBraedley if you look at my screenshot, his link message did not show up for me

until I refreshed

Feeds

FEichinger has removed Wipqozn from the list of this room's owners.

7:27 PM

@Unionhawk Putting a person with a terrible gravatar as room owner isn't my idea of a public service!

@Chippies Oh, well, your computer is just weird then.

@MBraedley idk, it happens with the chat once every few days

perhaps it has something to do with people posting too fast and one of the messages doesn't show up

He's making him removable

@Unionhawk which is a public service!

Q: What gameplay mechanics are new to Super Smash Bros 3DS?

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Are there any gameplay differences between the current Smash Bros. and Super Smash Bros. Brawl? For example, did they get rid of tripping, or is still a mechanic in Super Smash?

super-smash-bros-3ds

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Q: Does a downloaded game run slower than a physical game?

For example, when I run the Super Street Fighter IV: 3D Edition on my 3DS, it just seems, very barely, to run slower than the cartridge version I own. However, I have no way of testing out the framerate of each game, and can only guess from my own eyes. Is this true for other games? For example...

3ds

7:30 PM

> The truth is, ponies exist in a rigid, oppressive, classist structure. Those with power and magic keep the downtrotten masses oppressed through a tyrannical and breedist regime. The comfort of one pony is built on the swaybacks of others.

There is a second game being given away by Humble: Receiver

@badp Thanks for the reminder!

I completely forgot.

Blem

►

@OrigamiRobot how the hell do you keep kittens alive in winter? my catnip goes down faster than my macro can click

in other non-gaming news Project Ara is moving along nicely

7:32 PM

Nice! I definitely would support that if I ever get the chance. It would be awesome.

Get in while the going's good. The project is funded, but with 2 hours left, there's time to get one more stretch goal.

@Chippies Probably by not being a Cheaty McCheaterface

Oh, the free game si that game I already thought was free.

@OrigamiRobot I'm sorry, at -0.82 catnip I can't do anything even with a macro

@MBraedley Dangit, I wanted to support that so bad. My parents would never let me though :(

7:34 PM

@Chippies Don't build huts so soon

@OrigamiRobot but I want kittens :( THAT's THE WHOLE POINT OF THE GAME!

sigh, fine

Yea but you can't even support them!

You are being cruel!

@OrigamiRobot it's not my fault 30 catnip fields can't even support 2 kittens!

they need to go on a diet or something

@Chippies Well, catnip is hardly nutritious.

@Chippies Click Village and make them farmers

7:36 PM

Also, Mount and Blade Napoleonic Wars is on sale for $8 off. Dangit I want that game

@Chippies those kittens definitely have a problem

It's like pandas and bamboo.

@OrigamiRobot I think you need to research agriculture first, which I didn't get to

because ALL THE KITTENS DIED D:<

Q: How to improve chances of a successful hero quest of a clan member?

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As far as I understand, the chances of success in a hero quest are all random meaning every try can fail. I know that there are certain answers which offer a higher probability of success than others, yet those are not what I am asking here. What interests me is raising the overall chance to suc...

king-of-dragon-pass turn-based-strategy

@Chippies Also, you can pause the game and collect catnip.

7:38 PM

@Yuuki wtf, that's cheating

@Chippies Hey, it's easily done in-game. That's not cheating, it's bad design.

@Yuuki it's cheating by design!

Granted, you only harvest one catnip per click...

@Yuuki well, it might be enough to save starving kittens! I'll do anything to save starving kittens! Anything!

Hmmm let's take a guess what tab process that is.

7:40 PM

@TimStone Bridge.

...Shockingly no

It's the Flash plugin. What the hell. |:

Why do you sound surprised that Flash eats memory?

Flash is the worst.

@TimStone if I leave websites with youtube videos embedded in them open for a long time, it leaks memory

That's like being surprised that PHP is a mess.

7:42 PM

@TimStone you can bring up chrome's task manager (shift+esc) to see

Well, duh, that's how it is.

@Chippies Yeah, I'm trying to think what might be open in these 111 tabs that could be to blame, heh.

@TimStone well, shift+esc and sort by memory usage :P

assuming you're on chrome ofc

Well like I said, it was the actual plugin itself, not any tab process.

that seems odd

7:44 PM

Yes

@TimStone "he's dead jim"

I'm going to go out on a limb and blame that After Effects article @GnomeSlice linked to

@TimStone That's a lot of sad plugins.

@TimStone this reminds me why I don't feel bad for using adblock

I wouldn't feel bad either at this point, I'm mostly just lazy and don't tend to visit sites that make heavy use of ads to begin with.

7:47 PM

@Chippies adblock everywhere except for youtube to make sure the youtube shows I like get supported.

@Rapitor I wish there was a way to set up youtube user whitelists

@Chippies you can set it up so ads only show up on videos.

@RPiAwesomeness Stylish let's you inject CSS

@Rapitor I don't mind the image ads, I just can't handle the long video ads

not sure if I can set it up to block one and not the other... haven't looked at it

don't think there's an option for that

Auto-playing video ads.

Fuck them.

7:54 PM

@Chippies You know you can skip video ads, right? (most of the time)

@murgatroid99 over 30 seconds can be skipped

@murgatroid99 it's still usually 5 to 30 seconds of junk I don't want to look at or listen to

@Rapitor I'm nearly positive that's not what the criteria is

I've had ads longer than the video itself

I used to listen to music on youtube in playlists back in Latvia, because there was no such thing as video ads there

in Canada there's a video ad for every 3rd video

and I can't deal with that shit

if I ever upload a video and allow it to be monetized, I never tick the video ad checkbox

youtube-dl

@Chippies How exactly does it get monetized then?

7:57 PM

@badp the image thingy ads that pop up?

@Chippies that is a problem. And that's why there's going to be a music subscription service that lets you listen to music on YouTube without ads

that are quite unintrusive

if everyone did this, I wouldn't need adblock

@Lazers Shedding downvotes, go!

oops, didn't mean to edit that

@Batophobia Yup :) Figured that out. I even modded the script a bit to make it look better :D

7:59 PM

@Chippies Not everybody does that because they wouldn't make enough money otherwise :)

@Chippies But they also wouldn't make much money

although the trueview ads only pay out if the watcher doesn't skip the ad IIRC