The Bridge

Kevin van der Velden

2:02 PM

Uuggh... no a button labeled btnPickupTickets should not mark the tickets as not yet picked up.

Unionhawk

I need to build a PC... and learn about these components

Arperum

Ugh. So now I'm asked to make my java app support win XP... because that matters at all

And also: your app should contain a check to show a message if the pc does not have a sufficiently recent java installed. That's friggin impossible.

Martin Sojka

... why impossible?

Arperum

"This thing requires a plane because you need to be in the air, can you make it check if it has a plane once it is up in the air?"

5pike

@KevinvanderVelden ... that's just dumb

Arperum

2:06 PM

It's not going to fly without a plane...

5pike

@Arperum that too.

Arperum

Also: fucking hell, java 7 is too recent it seems.

Martin Sojka

Add a "loader" class which doesn't depend on much of anything but simply checks which Java version it's running under, then either displays an error or instantiates and runs the actual main class. Compile the "loader" class and whatever it depends on with the lowest Java version which can run the kind of apps in the first place (Java1?), compile the reminder with whatever you want, package together, done.

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum this is what installers are for

@5pike the label that button has is marked properly, but that doesn't help as you can't see that from the code.

Arperum

@MartinSojka I might mention, that I have a stupid deadline of tomorrow, and there are more issues screaming for my attention.

Martin Sojka

2:10 PM

You should make sure that a JAR which consists just of the loader runs (and throws a ClassNotFoundException at the line where it would load the main class) under any Java version for additional stability.

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden I know, I delivered a runnable jar, and then got the question "can't you remove that .jar from the filename?"

Martin Sojka

@Arperum Yeah, ok. Not going to happen in that time frame. Not because you couldn't code it - but because you can't test it under all those different runtime environments in time.

Arperum

@MartinSojka Extra note: the only enviroment I can test is a win7 64bit pc.

Martin Sojka

@Arperum VMWare Workstation? VirtualBox?

Arperum

but hey, just make it work on everything. because fuck you.

Kevin van der Velden

2:12 PM

@Arperum I think it's the time for "Any additional requirements must be handed in a week before requested deliverables."

Frank

@Arperum Cost to add compatibility for obsolete system: $20,000.

Martin Sojka

I also have Win7/64bit as main dev machine, but I also have a ton of VMs here ...

Frank

You sure you need this?

Kevin van der Velden

Supporting a post EOL operating system? Additional requirement

Origami Robot

I sit here complaining about RAM prices and at the same time, I'm looking at 20 MtG cards for $300 and thinking "That's an ok deal"

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5pike

2:14 PM

@OrigamiRobot We all have our priorities, mate.

Wipqozn

@OrigamiRobot haha, oh origami. You poor robot.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@OrigamiRob ICYMI

Origami Robot

@5pike The cards will retain value long term!

Frank

@OrigamiRobot And apparently, so will RAM!

Kevin van der Velden

@Frank in fact, it will increase in value!

Ish

Origami Robot

2:17 PM

I'm mainly looking at them because I disagreed when the shop owner told me that $330 was an amazing presale price and I wouldn't be able to find better.

Jason Berkan

@OrigamiRobot I shouldn't mention what I paid for 4MB of RAM back in the day, then.

FEichinger

I would gladly buy an 80GB HDD for a higher price than it used to be, right now.

Origami Robot

So I've just been watching them drop and relishing my my own correctness.

Frank

@OrigamiRobot Yeah, statements like that ring alarm bells all by themselves.

Origami Robot

@Frank He wasn't just saying it though, he had valid points.

I just had different points.

Kevin van der Velden

2:19 PM

@JasonBerkan @OldManBerkan strikes again!

Wipqozn

@KevinvanderVelden Silly dragon, his nick name is @OldManBerkan.

Kevin van der Velden

@Wipqozn Right, I couldn't remember

Fixeded

Frank

@OrigamiRobot You didn't give me any context, so I was assuming he was trying to snow you.

Jason Berkan

I also third the KoDP comments. Buy it now.

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Wipqozn

@JasonBerkan See, you need to do it now!

We have the young Turtle, the middle aged puppet, and the old alchemist, all suggesting the same game!

Origami Robot

2:21 PM

@Frank No, we were just having a legitimate discussion about MtG economics.

What is KODP

LessPop_MoreFizz

Also, fans of KODP who are into tabletop RPGs may be interested in this rad Kickstarter.

Jason Berkan

@OrigamiRobot King of Dragon Pass

LessPop_MoreFizz

@OrigamiRob KODP is a superstitious magic Viking simulator/choose your own adventure game set in Glorantha. It is the best.

badp

@FEichinger why just 80?

Origami Robot

How the best is it?

LessPop_MoreFizz

2:26 PM

It's available for iOS and Android as well as PC via GOG, where it is currently deeply discounted.

FEichinger

@badp Because it needs to be small. In fact, anything 100+ is way overkill for the PC its getting installed in.

And a hard drive that's 90% unused for eternity is pretty damn pointless.

And could potentially cause other issues instead.

Origami Robot

@FEichinger There was a deal yesterday on a 250GB SSD for $110. That's almost enough to make me get one.

FEichinger

I don't want an SSD! I don't want 250GB! I want a tiny little 80GB HDD for a PC that gets deployed next week and does nothing other than streaming an AV feed into the net.

Jutschge

oh my god the longer you watch it, the better it gets

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FEichinger

The only thing we need space on that thing for is the OS, configs, and a bit of storage for stills.

LessPop_MoreFizz

2:32 PM

Lazers

2

Q: How is damage calculated?

Most weapons of the same level and rarity have pretty identical attack stats (at least in shops anyway), but the actual damage they deal is drastically different. Example: a 100 attack hand cannon deals a lot more damage than a 100 attack auto rifle. Is there a formula or way to tell how much da...

destiny

Frank

@Jutschge Image blocked.

There's only so much shimmying I can handle.

Origami Robot

@LessPop_MoreFizz wat

LessPop_MoreFizz

5pike

@FEichinger You live in Germany, right? Have you checked out geizhals.de yet?

Origami Robot

2:34 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz What happened next? I NEED TO KNOW!

FEichinger

@5pike We're nine days from launch. Bit late to order and rely on it to arrive in time to reinstall and all.

I'm just rambling about it being absolutely impossible to find a store here that has anything smaller than 300GB.

Origami Robot

@FEichinger I have an 80GB that I will sell you!

5pike

@FEichinger Well, that's to bad. I see a SATA 2.5 160GB for ~30 €

FEichinger

@OrigamiRobot Yes, shipping from the US it's definitely going to arrive in less than a week.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Origami Robot

2:37 PM

@FEichinger If you throw more money at it it will.

FEichinger

@OrigamiRobot No, that's not how it works. At least not with the budget we have.

Jason Berkan

@LessPop_MoreFizz Those stupid ducks!

Origami Robot

@FEichinger I'm just providing you with options.

@LessPop_MoreFizz I think I need this game.

FEichinger

@OrigamiRobot But I already know my options! My options are getting shafted and using an excessively large drive, or delivering late.

And delivering late isn't exactly an option either.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@JasonBerkan DO NOT F___ WITH THE DUCKS.

Origami Robot

2:40 PM

@FEichinger You didn't know about my offer until I told you!

Powerlord

Good morning bridge trolls!

Wait... not that kind of bridge?

Batophobia

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FEichinger

@Powerlord Sometimes. Sometimes not. Sometimes troll yourself.

Origami Robot

@Batophobia Man, I'm glad I already ignore all forms of news.

Batophobia

As am I

5pike

2:42 PM

@FEichinger I'm sure there's a somewhat popular callifieds website, where you can search for old pc parts.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@OrigamiRobot This is a very entertaining read and can be very helpful in learning just how Glorantha works and how to get better at KODP; the game can be a bit opaque, and thinking like a superstitious magic viking can be tough to get your head around if you are new to the setting.

Also, I haven't even linked any HeroQuesting screenshots!

HeroQuesting, btw, is the mechanic in which the leaders of your clan engage in epic ritualized LARPing, reenacting the great acts of the gods in order to channel powerful magic.

Origami Robot

@LessPop_MoreFizz Is the mobile version actually worth getting?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@OrigamiRobot I think it's superior to the desktop version. A few annoying outdated mechanics were cleaned up, and there's a few dozen new scenes and new art and it still gets periodic updates.

Jason Berkan

@OrigamiRobot That's what I play, since I don't run Windows on a regular basis.

LessPop_MoreFizz

That said, I've heard some people complain about the android version (which is very very very very new) needing another pass or two of crash fixes and such. On iOS it's been rock solid for years though.

Origami Robot

2:44 PM

I have a bunch of store credit from doing surveys for google.

LessPop_MoreFizz

For example, putting Clan Magic into Children is a trap option, and assigning hunters is meaningless (since you always max it), so both options were just removed outright in the mobile version.

badp

@Batophobia Why is this still a thing?

Origami Robot

Oh, apparently I can't split the payment :(

I don't have $10 in store credit

LessPop_MoreFizz

Well, it's worth the 10 dollars for what it's worth.

Origami Robot

@LessPop_MoreFizz Yea, I already did it.

LessPop_MoreFizz

2:51 PM

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It has a trailer now!

Origami Robot

I just don't know what else I'm ever going to spend this credit on.

LessPop_MoreFizz

...

Powerlord

Almost time for Another Useless Meeting.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Yuuki

@LessPop_MoreFizz You lost me at "book walks in".

Rapitor

3:03 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz what am I looking at

Matt Эллен

The book itself isn't walking. It's an example of metonymy. The book, of course, refers to the whole ensemble of book and reader who is carrying said book, presumably in their hands, so it can be seen.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Rapitor A truck owned by crazy people.

Rapitor

@LessPop_MoreFizz yeah, but it says the food truck sucks. is the food not tasty?

Origami Robot

@MattЭллен Who you callin a metonymy?

Can't tell if serious...

Matt Эллен

@OrigamiRobot The book

LessPop_MoreFizz

3:06 PM

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Rapitor

@LessPop_MoreFizz how is it my fault the image is too small to read anything. All I see is 9/11. Idk if it's being supportive or insulting.

Kevin van der Velden

@LessPop_MoreFizz they don't really have the sound of something going over someones head, needs a bit higher pitch I'd say

@Rapitor it's 9/11 EXPLOSIVE EVIDENCE bla bla

Batophobia

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Kevin van der Velden

I'm guessing 9/11 conspiracy "theorists"

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Rapitor Fun Fact: You can Click on an Image to Make It Bigger.

Rapitor

3:07 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz didnt help

LessPop_MoreFizz

Loose Change (film series)

Loose Change is a series of films released between 2005 and 2009 which argue in favor of certain conspiracy theories surrounding the September 11th attacks. The films were written and directed by Dylan Avery and produced by Korey Rowe, Jason Bermas and Matthew Brown. The original 2005 film was edited and re-released as Loose Change: 2nd Edition (2006), and then subsequently edited a third time for the 2nd Edition Recut (2007). Loose Change: Final Cut, deemed "the third and final release of this documentary series" was released on DVD and Web-streaming format on November 11, 2007. Another version...

Wipqozn

3:23 PM

@OrigamiRobot You do. You really, really do.

@OrigamiRobot On a scale of 1-10 bests, it is 14 bests.

Rapitor

@LessPop_MoreFizz ah.

Powerlord

One of my coworkers sounds like he's saying Jawa instead of Java.

Kevin van der Velden

@Powerlord every time he says jawa, start talking about motorcycles

FEichinger

Now that the delay on kick has been implemented, we sadly have to do this:

Stack Exchange

FEichinger has removed Wipqozn from the list of this room's owners.

Wipqozn

3:31 PM

@FEichinger I think you've got that backwards. You now need to not do that.

THE REMOVAL MEME IS DEAD! LONG LIVE THE REMOVAL MEME!

> If this is the first time the user is kicked anywhere (i.e., not necessarily in the same room) in the last 24 hours, the ban will last one minute. If it is the second time, the ban will last five minutes. If it is the third or more time the user has been kicked within 24 hours, the ban will last for 30 minutes. In addition, the user is automatically banned from creating new rooms and from sending invites. T

Frank

> Who can be kicked?

A room owner can kick any user (including other room owners) from their room, provided all of the following are true:

The kickee has spoken in this room within the last 24 hours.
If the kickee has previously been kicked from this room, they have spoken again after said ban was over.
The kickee is not suspended.
The kickee is not already kick-banned from this room (this also pretty much follows from 2.)
The kickee is not a moderator.

You can still kick room owners!

Wipqozn

This set-up means @StrixVaria (aka @Omega) can still kick me from the room, so long as he does it less than 3 times a day.

Batophobia

@Powerlord utini!

Chippies

@Frank but they get temp-banned

Wipqozn

> This was the 3rd, 6th, 9th, etc. time that this particular room owner has kicked a user within the last 24 hours.

I really like this. Nice way to avoid abuse.

Frank

3:35 PM

With that, I can take the MH3U room out of gallery.

Powerlord

@Wipqozn This sounds... broken.

Frank

And just start punting users that don't behave.

Wipqozn

@Powerlord How so?

FEichinger

@Powerlord The permanent room creation/invite ban? I'm not sure what to think of that, personally.

Wipqozn

wait, that's permanent? I thought it only lasted 30 minutes too.

FEichinger

3:36 PM

@Wipqozn I don't even know if moderator kicks trigger the auto-flag. I suspect not.

> In addition, the user is automatically banned from creating new rooms and from sending invites. This automatic ban does not expire and can only be removed by a moderator.

Wipqozn

@FEichinger ah, okay. I misread that last sentence.

FEichinger

I might be misinterpreting it, we haven't seen it in action yet. But as far as I can tell, that one is permanent unless removed by mod.

Powerlord

Chat banning people for being kicked by itself is broken seeing as how anyone (trustworthy or not) can create rooms unless they themselves have gotten this ban.

Wipqozn

@FEichinger No, that makes sense. I just read it too quickly the first time.

Origami Robot

@Wipqozn Thank God. Maybe now I can unignore @StackExchange

Wipqozn

3:39 PM

@Powerlord IF you read further down, you'll see there are restrictions to prevent this abuse.

Powerlord

Here, let me create a fake copy of the Bridge, invite @Wipqozn and kick him if he joins.

FEichinger

@Powerlord Well, users need to have been in the room and said something recently. Otherwise they can't get kicked.

Jason Berkan

@Powerlord He has to talk as well.

Frank

@Wipqozn Not sure how that kills the removal meme. They can still owner and de-owner you just fine.

FEichinger

So if user X creates a room, he can't kick users Y, Z, and A just like that.

Jason Berkan

3:40 PM

And flags are raised when one room owner does a bunch of kicks in a 24 hour period.

FEichinger

(Not to mention the whole auto-flag thing that will bring it to moderator attention if it is abused. And can then be very harshly combated.)

Wipqozn

@Frank no, but see, now that room ownership has real power people can't just remove me as a joke! Right guys? Guys? Right?

Stack Exchange

Sterno has added Wipqozn to the list of this room's owners.

FEichinger

@Wipqozn You shall be proven wrong.

Stack Exchange

FEichinger has removed Wipqozn from the list of this room's owners.

Frank

3:41 PM

That answers that.

Sterno

MOD ABUSE

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(is best abuse)

Frank

Being room owner now just has some enforcement capability.

Sterno

Kick is now more than a minor annoyance?

Rapitor

@FEichinger let's do some science and find out

FEichinger

(And, yes, room owners can still be kicked.)

Frank

3:43 PM

@Sterno Finally.

FEichinger

@Rapitor Are you offering yourself as a tribute?

Frank

Less than a suspension, but more than an annoyance.

Wipqozn

@Sterno Yeah. Removing my ownership could result in PURE CHAOS in the Bridge now.

Powerlord

See, the other thing is that I was assuming from the wording that the ban was network wide similar to how suspensions work.

Wipqozn

PURE, PURE CHAOS

Stack Exchange

3:44 PM

Sterno has added Wipqozn to the list of this room's owners.

Wipqozn

The room keeps refreshing. I think my browser is confused due to how often I'm added/removed.

Sterno

@Wipqozn PURE CHAOS

I bet we could fix that for you by kicking you.

Kevin van der Velden

@Wipqozn good, the bridge is fueled by PURE CHAOS.

Frank

@Sterno Which would force another refresh.

Kevin van der Velden

@Frank I fail to see an issue?

Frank

3:47 PM

@KevinvanderVelden Neither do I. I'm just stating what would happen.

Wipqozn

Oh god. I hope a Wipqozn Kicking Meme doesn't start.

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Frank

I've been looking at other people that have built the same model I am, and found a rather impressive one.

Batophobia

@Wipqozn Amazed the "n't" has yet to be mod abused out of that post

Jason Berkan

@Wipqozn I would assume that the mod flags would result in us getting a talking to if that happened.

SaintWacko

Oh, wow. My sniper in my current Xenonauts game is almost @AshleyNunn. She's Cpl Ashling Dunne

Wipqozn

3:55 PM

@SaintWacko Well you know what to rename thme to.

Okay, kicks only apply to the room you were in.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Huh. No entry in the transcript for a kick, and I can view a list of kicked users anywhere to see if there are any restrictions active...

Wipqozn

At least that appears to be the case.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Doesn't show up on the users profile either.

I have no way to tell if a user has been kicked after the fact, nor to undo it.

Okay. When I kicked first time, it just kicked him and he was able to come right back.

Wipqozn

> When I first rejoined the room I I didn't try speaking again, but the message box wasn't greyed out or anything. - You are currently banned from participating in this room. - retry / cancel

SUCCESS

LessPop_MoreFizz

Second kick, a notice went up saying @Wipqozn can not return for five minutes.

Wipqozn

4:01 PM

And I can't get back in the room now either.

badp

oooooo

Wipqozn

Oh no, it's @Modabusep.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Still no record in the transcript or any other mechanism for me to see who is kick banned or undo it though.

I have no way of knowing somebody is kcikbanned from a room unless they speak to me in a different room.

Wipqozn

Would it be reasonable to consider adding "starring" messages to the list of privileges lost after you've been kicked 3 times? That might help cut down on the star spam. — Retsam 1 hour ago

Mad Scientist

@LessPop_MoreFizz It's visible in the permissions page for that user

Wipqozn

4:05 PM

Mentioning me in that room was such a tease, @LessPop_MoreFizz. I can see the transcript though, but can't enter the active room.

So you can't just kick someone from a room so you can say nasty things behind their back.

Mad Scientist

chat.stackexchange.com/admin/user-permissions/12152

LessPop_MoreFizz

@MadScientist Oh hey, that's deeply deeply hidden.

@Wipqozn It has expired.

Wipqozn

Looks like I can't make new rooms now too.

Mad Scientist

@Wipqozn Just so you know, you're now banned from creating chat rooms and inviting users forever

Wipqozn

@MadScientist Mods can undo that.

In fact I think someone just did.

Mad Scientist

4:07 PM

> 23 secs ago: User is banned from creating rooms and inviting users indefinetly by Stack Exchange.
This ban was enabled automatically for being kicked out of a room three times within 24 hours. Please review whether this is appropriate.
This restriction does not expire automatically.

Wipqozn

Yup. Someone undid it.

7Blue_Beast7

Hi All!

Frank

Did we really just test the kick functionality on @Wipqozn?

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Frank Repeatedly!

Powerlord

@LessPop_MoreFizz In what room?

Wipqozn

4:09 PM

@Frank I even got hit with the no room creation ban. SCIENCE!

7Blue_Beast7

@Frank So hows things going?

Frank

@Wipqozn So long as you were a willing participant!

Wipqozn

@Frank Being a guinea pig pays well.

Frank

@Wipqozn Really? Last I checked, it pays you nothing at all.

Wipqozn

@Frank Pretty sure I get paid in love and admiration.

Frank

4:11 PM

@Wipqozn That and $2 can buy you a coffee.

Wipqozn

@Frank I don't drink coffee though.

badp

It paid well! Do you see the font type in which "Wipqozn" appears and how slanted it is?

Frank

@badp That just means owners aren't immune to kicking.

badp

Actually -- owners can kick now, right?

Undo

yes, @badp

LessPop_MoreFizz

4:14 PM

@badp INDEEEEED.

badp

so...

kickwars?

Undo

omigosh

Frank

Nothing says feature abuse like the Bridge.

Undo

I... might have to just go hide somewhere :P

Wait, I'm immune, right?

badp

I've never been happier to be a mod :P

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Wipqozn

4:15 PM

@badp I didn't even notice I was a room owner again.

3 cheers for @Sterno!

badp

We get to know who kicks who, btw, and repeated kicking gets the blue police onto you

Wipqozn

@badp Don't tell them that. It'll be funnier to let people abuse the power, and then find out afterwards.

Undo

Kick-abuse will lead to being forced into using PHP to write a finance application.

Frank

@Undo Been there, done that.

And then got to work with Sharepoint.

Sterno

@Wipqozn I am a hero.

LessPop_MoreFizz

4:17 PM

@Frank Nothing says ~~feature~~ abuse like the Bridge.

Stack Exchange

LessPop_MoreFizz has removed Sterno from the list of this room's owners.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Teach you to make the turtle an owner.

Martin Sojka

Blender + traditional transparency-using multi-layered hair =

Frank

@LessPop_MoreFizz I think we're responsible for the translate bot being made mod-only, too.

Martin Sojka

(Not that I can use the model for anything but reference anyway; I need something I can strip and put into civilian clothes)

Wipqozn

4:19 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz But if @Sterno didn't add me, then you'd never be able to remove me!

Sterno

@LessPop_MoreFizz I perform a community service by constantly making @Wipqozn de-ownerable

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Martin Sojka

Also, just noticed: Other M's Samus has actually very little make-up. Just some rouge and a tiny bit of eyeliner.

badp

Room owners can now administer room-specific bans -- please read this first before you do

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FAE

Evening all

Frank

@FAE Morning.

Blem

4:32 PM

Two spaces for indentation is the only way forward for the civilized society of tomorrow.

FAE

The comments on this answer are starting to veer off-topic. It's not gotten super hostile yet, but a mod may want to stick in a gentle reminder.

Blem

MOD ABUSE!

Private Pansy

Pish posh, my dear sir! Indentation for human beings should be done with tabs, which then can be corrected to any number of spaces by your editor. Also your face smells.

badp

@FAE Ah, this kind of discussion. It also happens on TF2.

Wipqozn

I need to agree with @badp on this one. Tabs are terrible. Either 2 or 4 spaces is superior. Just use a proper editor so that it will convert a tab to spaces when you press it.

badp

4:35 PM

@Wipqozn hell, a super fancy editor won't have you type indentation to begin with

Jason Berkan

@badp Exactly. Who indents anymore? That's what your editor is for.

FEichinger

I prefer tabs over spaces because they're easier to write a parser onto.

Wipqozn

@badp Very true!

badp

That said, PEP8 insists on having proper hanging indents, which means you have to use spaces, and the last thing you want to do is mix tabs and spaces

Wipqozn

@FEichinger Your opinion differs from my own therefore you are incorrect.

badp

4:36 PM

HENCEFORTH two spaces for indentation is the only way forward for the civilized society of tomorrow.

@Blem couldn't have said it better!

:-}

Blem

:D

Private Pansy

@badp I protest thee with all my might. Also, you smell.

murgatroid99

@badp This is objectively correct.

badp

@PrivatePansy It is truly a fact of truth that I have not yet found the moment for a shower, and I shall remedy as soon as your wrongness on the internet is rectified.

Rapitor

@FAE it's just an opinionated answer and the comments are pointing it out. no problems

Blem

4:37 PM

I actually don't care, as long as it gets indented, I usually just use the editors standard

Private Pansy

So... You'll never again take a shower as long as I use tabs? I find this arrangement agreeable!

Jason Berkan

@Wipqozn No. The proper editor should display a tab as 2 or 4 spaces, so that programmers can work together without holy wars.

murgatroid99

@JasonBerkan As long as everyone chooses the same display setting

Jason Berkan

(Program formatting arguments are almost the most pointless thing ever, btw.)

Frank

@JasonBerkan But...! Everything we do is a holy war!

Wipqozn

4:40 PM

@JasonBerkan How dare you suggest what I fight about!

I'M GOING TO FIGHT YOU SO HARD ON THAT

Oh my golly gee I really need to get some Nikolai Rimsky-Korsakov albums. He's becoming one of my favourite composers.

I'm currently rocking out in my office to this:

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badp

@Rapitor It's the way things work in TF2 and I don't see it being different in basically any game ever with cosmetic unlocks tbh

It's the whole point of having bling

FAE

@Rapitor There were a few comments that could've used with being cleaned out, which @badp did.

badp

btw is it just TF2 or the only people who DO use voice chat are incredibly annoying, 12 years old, or both?

Unionhawk

It's not just TF2, usually

badp

(usually, both)

@Unionhawk yeah, I tend to reach for the mute button immediately, and often I end up seeing chat looking like this:

StrixVaria

4:46 PM

I can't kick @Wipqozn anymore without also temp-banning him :(

badp

someperson: wtf
someother: please stop
anotherdude: stop spamming
poorsoul: why are you doing this

@StrixVaria you can deowner him.

I'm happy that's still a thing.

StrixVaria

Ownership means a lot more now.

Private Pansy

@badp I've always thought that meme was applied most frequently to shooters on Xbox

Frank

@StrixVaria Which is good.

It used to be a pretty toothless privilege.

badp

@StrixVaria ehhh if I weren't comfortable with @Wipqozn being an owner, I wouldn't have made this a thing.

Yuuki

4:47 PM

Rock beats fish.

Private Pansy

Probably because Xbox Live Gold comes with free voice chat

Unionhawk

I was in a Payday random one time with some kid. Though it didn't happen as often there.

StrixVaria

@Frank It is good but I'm just going to review the current owners.

badp

I AM SURE THAT NO ONE OF THE CURRENT OWNERS IS GOING TO DISAPPOINT ME FOREVER, RIGHT

NO PRESSURE

Rapitor

@badp usually its just the 12 year olds who use public voice chat...

StrixVaria

4:47 PM

@badp I agree with that, but making people temporarily owners as a joke (other than @Wipqozn) might need to calm down.

Wipqozn

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StrixVaria has removed SaintWacko from the list of this room's owners.

badp

@StrixVaria eh. If they do pull bullshit, we can just give them the good old hour ban.

The default kick-mute duration is 1 minute

StrixVaria

@badp Oh that's not too bad.

badp

so even if they managed to go to town with it they'd only do minor damage overall

Wipqozn

4:49 PM

@StrixVaria Plus if too much kicking goes on an automated mod flag is raised.

badp

I guess the feature was extended to room owners to the benefit of echo chambers like the C++ Lounge

oh well

Wipqozn

I believe it's 3 kicks by the same person or 3 kicks on the same person will raise a flag, and 5 kicks in a room will also it.

3/3/5 kicks within 24 hours that is.

badp

yes

Yuuki

@Wipqozn So what you're saying is that we should resort to our fists, not our feet?

badp

Next up: punch-starring horrible puns

Wipqozn

4:52 PM

I like this.

@Yuuki Yes.

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Q: What gear and level based stats are normalized in Destiny Crucible Multiplayer?

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Jason Berkan

The kick function should be renamed in our room. Hadouken, perhaps? Changing to Finish Him! on the third kick?

Private Pansy

@badp You mean whenever I star someone that person gets a punch in the guts?

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