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7:00 PM
It assumes I don't really stop other than to kill elites, tap shrines (to spawn elites), and hit goblins, though
 
@FEichinger Yes.
 
@Sterno 90% OF MY LEGENDARIES ARE FROM TRASH MOBS/ENVIRONMENT
 
lobatt
 
 
WITH NORMAL SPLIT BOUNTIES, YOU CAN COMPLETE ALL 5 ACTS IN ~30 MINUTES AS LONG AS YOU HAVE AT LEAST 3 PEOPLE
 
7:03 PM
@Arperum Thank you!
 
THE PROBLEM IS, IF A LEGENDARY DROPS FOR YOU ON A BOUNTY SOMEONE ELSE IS DOING, IT COUNTS TOWARD YOUR TIMER EVEN IF YOU NEVER SEE IT
 
@OrigamiRobot The way they described the timer, almost no one ever actually hits the timer anyway.
The timer is for if you get crazy crazy bad luck for like 6+ hours.
 
@StrixVaria THAT'S NOT WHAT I READ AT ALL
 
@OrigamiRobot I need gold. And paragon levels
Paragon levels are like really slowly earned legendaries!
 
WHY THE FUCK IS IT SO HARD TO FIND SOMEONE TO MOW MY STUPID LAWN?!?!??!!
 
7:06 PM
@spugsley buy a goat.
 
@spugsley Is that a metaphor?
 
every company I have talked to in the past week has either been incredibly rude, too busy, or has given me the run around.
 
ALSO, apparently the new hotness if you're lazy in D3 is to join a game and die, then not res. Apparently you can't be kicked if not dead.
 
@Sterno ....for? O_o
 
Then you just lay there and get quest rewards, I guess
@spugsley FOR MOWING THE LAWN
 
user15026
7:07 PM
@spugsley :(
 
user15026
@spugsley pokes them with forks
 
A cow would work too!
 
seriously. Ian and I don't want to take care of the lawn. We hate the yard. We want to pay someone money to do it. GOOD MONEY I DON'T EVEN CARE I JUST DON'T WANT TO DO IT
 
You can milk both.
 
@badp I will milk you and see how you like it
 
7:08 PM
I'm not a cow.
 
@spugsley You're still having a better experience than my girlfriend and I had
 
user15026
oh my
 
@SaintWacko tell me. It'll make me feel better
 
@spugsley I'D DO IT IF YOU HATE A MOWER
 
I like mowing.
 
user15026
7:08 PM
@spugsley If you were here I would tell you to hire my friend who is stuck in this really scammy property management landscaping gig
 
@Sterno It seems she's too young to get it! Them youngins'
 
Sterno pays people to stay off his lawn.
 
@Sterno ME TOO (NOT PUSH MOWING)
 
user15026
I like living in apartments because I don't have to do any of that
 
It's not blue but it quotes blues.
 
7:10 PM
@AshleyNunn You can still inflict it upon yourself through bonsai trees
 
Do you have some other source claiming something different?
 
user15026
@badp Yeah, no. My cat would try to eat them.
 
@AshleyNunn I don't know that cats would try and eat trees
 
user15026
@badp It's tiny and plant like. My cat would totally take a nibble.
 
Oh well yes. Apparently you have to trim them daily anyway
I think a cat would be more interested in nail polishing opportunities.
however a bonsai tree could prove deeply unsatisfying for that.
 
7:13 PM
OMG THAT REMINDS ME
I bought my cat a toy and now I need to see if he likes it :DDDDD
 
@spugsley You have a cat? I thought you were a goat person.
 
@Wipqozn :O
 
@spugsley We contacted a company to see how much it would cost to have the whole yard cleaned of leaves, and were quoted a price. It sounded good, so we asked them when the earliest we could be scheduled in was. They suggested a date, and asked if that would work. We weren't certain we would be around, or that we would have the money, so we hadn't responded to that email. A couple weeks later, we received an invoice from them.
We hadn't ever agreed to have them come out, we had been there the morning they said they came out (which was different than the date they suggested), and the backyard was locked, so they couldn't possible have cleaned up the leaves from there. I of course called them to figure out what was going on, and at first it seemed like they were willing to work with us.
Then she started making excuses. "Oh, we don't usually do beds." She claimed that her records showed her crew of 4 men took an hour to clean our quite small front yard, and so we had to pay the full amount. Her last communication was that if we didn't pay she'd take us to court.
We replied to that with a certified letter outlining our points, and telling them to remove the invoice
We haven't heard back, and haven't received a court summons, so we think she gave up when she realized we were ready and willing to fight it
Too bad, too, we had such a mountain of evidence it would have been funny
 
@SaintWacko O_o holy fuck
 
@spugsley Yeah
 
7:16 PM
They probably realized if they went to court they'd not only lose but be facing criminal charges.
 
@OrigamiRobot People only run Act 1 bounties anymore, from what I'm seeing
 
@Wipqozn Oh?
 
I don't understand why the fuck this is so hard.
 
I HAVE SEEN OTHERS, BUT SEARCHING BLUE POSTS IS A HUGE PITA
 
7:17 PM
@SaintWacko They were trying to scam you out of money. It was a con basically.
 
@spugsley We then contacted a different company, and they were very professional and came out and did an excellent job
 
@spugsley You now understand why people have children: free labour.
 
@Wipqozn that's the only reason I would even consider them at this point. Is 3 an acceptable age to start yard cleanup?
 
@spugsley 3 weeks? Yeah, I think that's old enough.
 
7:19 PM
I'VE SEEN MULTIPLE BLUE POSTS SAYING "ONE EVERY TWO HOURS FEELS RIGHT" WHICH IMPLIED TO ME THAT YOU STARTED GATHERING PITY MF AROUND THAT TIME
 
When I saw my message in the starred list I got all excited that it already had 3 stars, but then I realized the 3 was just part of my message.
 
@FEichinger D: they went back with bridge allowance?
 
@agent86 It's scratch o' clock
 
@OrigamiRobot This doesn't contradict anything in my linked post.
 
7:22 PM
@badp They already had in Alpha 8, if I'm not mistaken.
 
I just bought a lawnmower last weekend and mowed my new lawn for the first time. The lawnmower owner's manual warns that children are attracted to mowers and may try to murder themselves on it
 
@agent86 "fuck this i give up"
 
I was also aware of the fact that a leg dropping elsewhere without you seeing it would reset your timer (if you had one).
The point I was making is that the (if you had one) part is pretty important and the timer barely matters anyway.
 
@SaintWacko I've had days like that. "gonna get it... no? NO?? eff this, naptime."
 
@FEichinger I didn't look at it since the game first became popular in here.
 
7:24 PM
@Sterno So lawnmowers are like catnip for kids?
 
@Wipqozn That's what it says!
 
I guess it's less of a problem in the NY scenario.
 
@Sterno We're planning to sign the papers to finalize buying a house tonight. I will need to own a lawnmower soon :(
 
my kids are so prone to forgetting how not to die that I feel like I need to follow them around and shout BREATHE every few seconds, lest they just pass out on the floor and die
 
@StrixVaria Go you!
 
7:25 PM
Yay! New house and new kid within 2 months of each other!
 
@StrixVaria Man, you're going to be a dad soon. Crazy. Everyone is growing up!
I bet @StrixVaria's kids first word will be "Stupid."
 
@badp It's a lot more balanced now.
 
The house is at the very very top of our budget (to the dollar), so that's cool.
I get to spend as much of my savings as possible this way.
 
@StrixVaria You mean like actually buy and own it, or are you talking about the purchase offer?
 
@Sterno So we made an offer, they countered, and we're tonight signing the papers for the new offer that they already verbally agreed to. So unless they're super dicks about it, it's going to go into attorney review now.
 
7:28 PM
@StrixVaria Gotcha. Hopefully the inspection goes well!
 
Yeah!
That could be a dealbreaker, but the house was well-maintained.
 
Ooooohhhh shittttt
I might have found someone!
 
You should sign all the legal documents with "yolo"
 
@Sterno You forgot the hashtag
 
In theory the closing date would be in early June.
 
7:31 PM
I close on my condo sale next week
 
Nice!
You bought a new place while the old one was still in limbo?
 
@StrixVaria YOUR POST DIDN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT 6 HOURS
 
@StrixVaria Yeah. We didn't even try to sell the old one until we were into the new one.
 
> If we want you to get a legendary every 2 hours, the system basically says "ok it's been like double/triple that period of time, just help the guy out!"
@Sterno That's a lot of money tied up.
 
15 mins ago, by Origami Robot
I'VE SEEN MULTIPLE BLUE POSTS SAYING "ONE EVERY TWO HOURS FEELS RIGHT" WHICH IMPLIED TO ME THAT YOU STARTED GATHERING PITY MF AROUND THAT TIME
 
7:34 PM
@StrixVaria Yes and no. It was about 1/4th the price of our new place. We were living well under our means
But yeah, it'll be nice to not be paying $1k/month-ish to it anymore
 
@OrigamiRobot No, what that means is that they tuned the RNG so that, on average, you get a leg every 2 hours (actually I heard they tried to tune it for 90 minutes). Then if you're way over time, they start the timer. That's what all the official posts I've read add up to.
I WISH I COULD GET $1K/MONTH RENT ANYWHERE HERE
 
@StrixVaria I DON'T READ IT THAT WAY
 
I expect my mortgage+insurance+taxes to be like $2k/month.
Or more :(
@OrigamiRobot Then you're not reading the words right, because that's what they say.
> 1. RNG system with a standard programmed drop chance. Based on that chance, the average drop rate on that right now is 1 per 2 hours according to the Devs so drops will form a bell curve around that point. This matches what we see people posting. Lot of folks in the 90-150 min range.
2. A safety net timer that can modify the first system if the RNG gods hate you. It prevents you from going 10 + hours without a leg. Sometime after 4-6 hours it kicks in and slowly starts to increase the legendary drop rate.
 
@StrixVaria NONE OF THE WORDS YOU'VE SHOWED ME SAY THAT. I CAN SEE HOW YOU COULD READ IT THAT WAY, BUT THAT'S NOT HOW I READ IT
@StrixVaria THIS ISN'T FROM A BLUE
 
At least it's not city prices, though! There you pay $3k/month or more for a tiny apartment.
 
7:37 PM
D:
 
> The system that is in place should never be experienced by 99% of the population, it's there for the 1% who just get really bad random rolls for an excessively long period of time.
This is from a blue.
If 99% of the population never experiences this, that means that 99% of the time you don't have a leg timer active at all.
 
I need to know what the color of spite is so I can open an appropriate line for that station
 
Because the other blue post says:
> We added a system in the expansion that tracks the amount of time you spend fighting creatures without finding a legendary and after a certain period of time will slowly start increasing the legendary drop rate.
If the leg drop rate "slowly starts increasing" then it affects you, so to be in that 99%, the leg rate can't have increased at all.
This is a stupid argument to get into.
 
I wonder if they'll implement a similar system for caches.
 
But I don't really see how you are not interpreting it the same way as me.
And as the green post summarized.
 
7:39 PM
Like, increasing legendary drop rate if you don't get any legendaries after X caches.
 
@RedRiderX How goes?
 
22 mins ago, by Origami Robot
I HAVE SEEN OTHERS, BUT SEARCHING BLUE POSTS IS A HUGE PITA
 
Hey kid, do you like PARTICLES?
Wonder if it's just as nauseating without the compression/30FPS. Probably at least a bit better
 
Wee! Home after the weekend!
 
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7:53 PM
@BenBrocka urgh. can't watch
 
it's better on 1080p. Not THAT much better but...
the snow seems completely unnecessary
 
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Died soon after at 939
 
@fredley Ooh I need to try the new version.
 
@StrixVaria It's quite different
Protip: Design around a shortage of tunnels
 
8:01 PM
#ifdef SAMPLE_TF2_PLUGIN
#include "tf/tf_shareddefs.h"
#endif
 
Because you will have a shortage of tunnels
 
Is it just me or does that imply that there should be a tf/tf_shareddefs.h file in the Source SDK 2013?
 
@fredley dat green line
 
@StrixVaria yeeeeah...
 
(this is pulled from mp/src/utils/serverplugin_sample/serverplugin_empty.cpp)
 
8:03 PM
@Powerlord probably only if they provided sample plugins. Did they?
 
@fredley they kill you if your subway isn't good enough? Harsh
 
@MBraedley ...this is the sample plugin. And despite the name being empty, it isn't. It has code for reading TF2 conditions on players and other fun things in it.
 
@BenBrocka Yes. It's a North Korean subway system.
 
@Powerlord Then yes, I'd assume tf_shareddefs.h should exist
 
if (playerinfo->GetCustomInfo(TFPLAYERINFO_ENTINDEX_SENTRY, value, emptyVariant)) <-- To pull a player's sentry gun for instance.
 
8:04 PM
@fredley Just noticed that this terrain is NYC. The left side is NJ, the middle is Manhattan, and the right is Queens.
 
 
@StrixVaria Yes
@badp saw it
 
I thought you said 993, but you did say 939.
Consider yourself adequately served.
 
@badp :(
 
The blue line had four circle stations in a row, so it was really doomed
but what can I do about it?
 
8:06 PM
@badp Station gen is different?
 
@fredley ?
That didn't parse
 
@badp Do stations generate differently?
 
@fredley I guess it's all random.
 
@badp It is
 
but yes, stations have different types
Four stations of the same type in a row is like having a single station that generates four times as many passengers and takes four times as much time to offload
and the offload is not even in the slightest
 
8:10 PM
@badp TWO TRAINS ON ONE LINE HOLY SHIT WHAT IS THIS FUTURE TECHNOLOGY
 
@StrixVaria Instead of unlocking new lines, you unlock railcars.
You can put each railcar on a brand new line, or on one existing line with one car.
 
Neat.
 
This makes the loop strat even better :( and destroys the "emergency line of near death" crutch strat :/
 
It looks like there may still be a soft-cap of how far you can get, that's just higher than before.
 
You can, however, install a new car onto an overflowing station
Yeah, a thousand should be feasible
 
8:13 PM
A thousand is definitely feasible.
 
Also you have to unlock tunnels
 
@badp that sounds like it's either a really good idea, or a really bad idea
 
My last round was 1.2k
@badp One thing that's still missing is removing cars from an existing line without scrapping the whole line.
 
I now wish that in the early stages the game had better upgrade paths than "1 extra car or 3 extra passengers/station"
If you are having overflowing stations in your first week you're doing it wrong
SUDDENLY A 8-LOOP
 
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8:21 PM
@fredley still at work :-P
 
what. Now I have two cars going in opposite directions on the same line
 
bought my cat a catnip toy but instead of playing with it, he thinks it's his baby :/
 
ABORT ABORT ABORT ABORT
 
but yet a box of tea looks like something to play with and not a catnip squirrel :/
 
@spugsley "This is not my sheep."
 
8:24 PM
@OrigamiRobot he was sleeping with it but the he woke up when I tried to take his picture
 
Anyone up for split bounties? cc @OrigamiRobot @Yuki @spugsley @StrixVaria @Sterno
 
Journos! Grab an itch.io press account http://bit.ly/1mwTvlq
i can has official press account
 
@Frank no thanks. I don't like to split up. I feel like I might miss out on loot that drops
 
@spugsley It's mostly just done for bounty bags.
 
@BenBrocka grats
 
user15026
8:27 PM
@BenBrocka nice.
 
they're just getting started on getting people to opt-in to press access (off by default) but there's already a couple things I was curious about doing videos of
 
@Frank I'm doing pubs of that right now
Occasionally hit games where people sit in town AFK and let you do the work, but overall it takes like 7 minutes per Act 1 set
 
@Sterno Everyone's just doing Act 1?
 
@Frank Seems to be. They always stop there.
Probably farming Ring of Royal Grandeur
 
@Sterno Most likely.
 
8:30 PM
I'll be on later tonight and do whatever, but for now I only have another 15 min
 
That's not really split bounties, though. It's just ring farming.
That's...interesting. D3 has frozen twice now.
 
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@Frank Does it happen when you try to join my game?
 
@Frank Well, it's Act 1 splitting
 
@Yuki We'll find out.
Yep. Froze.
 
8:35 PM
TIL you can't have two boss battles going at once
 
@Frank Apparently, you don't play well with Macs.
Either that or I need to do a software update.
Probably the latter.
 
@Yuki It froze with just me, though.
D3 is doing something funky.
 
OUCH
Someone is really laggy and couldn't click the boss fight popups apparently
He apologized with "much sorry, very lag"
He has perfected trolling.
@Frank I agree. I just tried to start a new game and it's just trying to load forever
 
@Sterno much kick very ban
 
@spugsley That's what the map star is for :P
 
8:41 PM
@OrigamiRobot if you're on a completely different task/map, that's not really a viable option
 
@spugsley You have to go to all the areas at the end. It's a huge pain.
DAMMIT
 
I guess I'm doing bounties solo, then.
 
@OrigamiRobot yuupp that's why I don't do split
 
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@Sterno @StrixVaria DON'T YOU LOVE IT WHEN PEOPLE TALK TO THE CMS AS THOUGH THEY'RE DEVS?
 
8:45 PM
ugh. Kefka's tower requires picking 12 people?
 
@badp teams of 3. And I think 2 stay behind
 
My level distribution is 46 45 45 45 35 34 34 34 33 33 32 31 30 29
 
@badp That's part fo the reason I never finished it. I got to the world of ruin, and went to kefkas tower right away to see waht it was like. IT made me lose all interest in going on.
 
oh wait does 6 have 4 party reams?
 
Yes, 3×4
 
8:47 PM
@badp try and keep them somewhat blanced then, they are actually separate
 
@BenBrocka I ran out of things to do in the overworld D:
(I'm trying somewhat to avoid this situation in my FF7 playthrough)
 
IIRC it's rarely an issue in 7
 
Do they force you to mix things up?
 
in 7? There are rare occasions where you're missing someone or forced to a few people but I don't think there are any particularly noteworthy things. Don't leave good equipment on Areis btw
 
The big four have almost every spell in the game. The other ones...
(talking about ff6 here)
I'm almost sad how far back I've had to leave Locke behind
 
8:50 PM
Just have at least one of your best per team. Worst case I think you can go back and reshuffle team to tackle a different boss. I don't think I had to
you ignored the thief?! I see you're new to RPGs
 
He was one of the big four of the first half
but I had to re-recruit him last in the second
Second to last, actually.
 
make sure everyone has good equips btw, best you can buy for the lesser chars
 
Also I don't know what to do with the gazillion potions he stole. Well I just dumped them at one point.
 
Power-leveling characters who are lagging behind doesn't take very long
 
oh right! Dinosaurs
 
8:53 PM
@PanicBomb The veldt is almost made for this purpose, which is why it yields 0 XP
 
just....save your game when grinding with the dinosaurs
 
@PanicBomb I'm actually right here, it was the last stop in the walkthrough before "Kefka's Tower Preparation"
 
@badp no the velt is for learning those shitty abilities for the character that's useless
 
@BenBrocka I HAVE TEN OF THOSE
 
8:54 PM
ten isn't actually that many
 
I guess it's three mega grind sessions with Sabin/Edgar o' clock
 
should be able to stop at 40 I think
 
If you have an EXP Egg, it helps, too
 
@BenBrocka Yeah, that's what the walkthrough brought me there for
When I faced it with the big 4 it never used Ultima
so obviously...
 
@badp it's an XP pinata but it's also extremely dangerous
Disaster is more troublesome/common, but it will occasionally use Ultima
I just used all imp equipment to grind there IIRC, and ran from brachiosaur
 
8:58 PM
"all imp"?
I guess the "big daddy" of the grinding teams is going to get the gold of hairpin and soul of thamasa combo
 
Dualcast → Ultima → Ultima
 
everyone in imp status with normal attack will destroy almost anything but Ultima and Disaster are still huge problems
 
actually I still need to uncurse the shield
 
you'll mow down T Rex like nothing
@badp not worth it
unless your emulator can do like 10000% speed
 

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