The Bridge

11:00 AM

@kalina That's a huge price margin

Ridiculously huge

Well, range, not margin. Doesn't seem too much of a stretch if you just take the cheapest and the most expensive component which still adheres to the specs of each manufacturer and sum them up together.

Kevin van der Velden

@5pike well they're not consoles, expect an equally huge difference in quality

FEichinger

@kalina Slowpoke.

@5pike Unlike normal consoles, this is just a licensed name for any official device to run SteamOS, so they're all created by different manufacturers with different specs.

5pike

I still have the feeling that you will also have to pay for the brand (Alienware).

FEichinger

What (as I said yesterday) worries me about the Steam Machines is the lack of a dirt cheap one. The Steam Machines right now have no audience with this price - it's too expensive for a console gamer and too "simplistic" - for lack of a better word - for PC gamers.

@5pike Well, obviously. You don't buy Alienware without buying Alienware.

fredley

11:09 AM

@kalina $6k?!

FEichinger

Also: The extremely expensive Steam Machines may be massive beasts, sure ... But is that really necessary? You don't really need a Titan for any of the currently-supported games. Streaming/Recording from the box, maybe ... But even then, the game in my Debian library that pulls resources the most is friggin Rogue Legacy because of their weird shader.

And buying with the anticipation that there might be AAA games coming? I'm not seeing it. None of the big shots seem all too keen on supporting Linux.

Paradox (as an example of a company actually supporting Linux with relatively "big" games) can keep their resource use pretty low, too.

I'm just really sceptical of the Steam Machines as it is now. They should be dirt cheap boxes that bring PC games to the console environment - be that through streaming from a beast rig, or with the already-supported games. But for none of that, the "console" needs massive specs - and the accompanying price.

Meraj99

Look at the edit history. Possibly needs killing.

Arperum

AGDQ should be setting up for running Bastion @AnyInterestedPerson.

@Meraj99 Why does that question needs killing?

Meraj99

@Arperum Because of the edit history? :P

Arperum

@Meraj99 That's no reason.

Meraj99

11:19 AM

@Arperum :(

Arperum

@Meraj99 All I see is a confused user.

5pike

When I look at the Steam Machines, all I can think - I can build one myself, cheaper.

Lazers

0

Q: What are good legendary weapon drops in Borderlands 2?

There are 87 Bazillion Guns in Borderlands 2, with a similar number of brilliant puns (lol D. Bull) some of them are with the rarity color of orange, does anyone know of a good legendary drop? Preferably smg's with corrosion/fire element? :D

borderlands

Wipqozn

Oh Civ AI, you so silly.

FEichinger

@Wipqozn "Very well."

TAKE IT LIKE A MAN ... turtle ... alot

Wipqozn

11:26 AM

@MechanicalLoon There are several ways to hurt Dark Link. Dins fire is the easiest way to do it. The Megaton Hammer is pretty effective as well from what I can remember.

Martin Sojka

@Wipqozn Who the hell wrote this piece of garbage dialogue?

tombull89

@Wipqozn brb sending nukes

Eon Rusted du Plessis

@MartinSojka The day will come where the villian says to the hero "U'r stoopid lol", and the hero replies "I go to didney worl, so nuh huh"

dialog these days

tombull89

@5pike Same thing when I look at Razer's Project Christine. Modular, nice, but one company having the monopoly on parts?

Mechanical Loon

@Wipqozn Was talking about Morpha, not Dark Link there.

Anyway time to leave for work.

5pike

11:30 AM

@tombull89 Oh god, what even...

Blem-ba Fett

@tombull89 looks good, but sounds expensive

Wipqozn

@MechanicalLoon Ah, I see.

tombull89

Thing is, the only people who want modular easy to configure computers aren't gonna want to pay that much for a machine.

Still, interesting.

5pike

@tombull89 Target Audience - Rich, non-tech-savvy, "gamer"

tombull89

@5pike See also: Alienware.

Lazers

11:38 AM

0

Q: Skyrim: how do you level up unarmed combat?

Is there a way to level up unarmed combat (punching) I found a perk but I want to get better and level up! Please help

skyrim

Martin Sojka

@Lazers I wonder if he tried punching things.

5pike

@Lazers Oh, I jumped the gun. I forgot tat skyrim doesn't have hand-to-hand as a skill.

Eon Rusted du Plessis

@Lazers The answer is right on the wiki. @5pike is correct, hand-to-hand is only a fighting mechanic, not a skill

elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Unarmed_Combat_(Skyrim)

Wipqozn

-1

A: How do you purchase a premium car in GTA Online?

I want to see the name of the premium online gta

I don't know what that is, but I know it's not an answer.

5pike

Meh, found a guide online, to make a unarmed combat master...

Eon Rusted du Plessis

11:45 AM

my preference is to throw the mobs with tiny fireballs and poo when I'm in the shower. I suck at melee combat in skyrim

Anyhoo, got another task at work. this time its fixing a huge regex. Fun.

Lazers

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Q: If you conquer a holy city do you take "ownership" of that religeon?

I've conquered a city that was the holy city for one of the religions (I didn't manage to found one myself). Does this mean I own that religion and can upgrade it and do whatever else the owner of a religion can do (not sure what else there is)? The original Civ isn't wiped out, by the way, I j...

civilization-5 civ-5-gods-and-kings

kalina

12:02 PM

Interesting. Maybe the internet connection at home has died again

Lazers

0

Q: What did Edward tell me?

I received the instructions from Edward on brewing Fiz, such as they were. Unfortunately I can't remember the exact details of what he said, and now I'm stuck. For example, I think he said to talk to someone about the albino bees? But I don't remember who or where. What did he tell me?

fiz

Meraj99

Needs killing for opinion-based.

Private Pansy

@Meraj99 I assume Legendaries are actually fixed in some form instead of being RNG'd like the rest of the loots, otherwise this question would be totally worthless

Meraj99

@PrivatePansy Er, what do you mean fixed? RNG'd?

Private Pansy

Guns in Borderlands 2 are randomly generated

Meraj99

12:11 PM

@PrivatePansy Um, no, legendaries are randomly generated too.

Private Pansy

You're basically at the mercy of a Random Number Generator. If that's the case the question would be entirely pointless, since it'll be nothing more than a dick measuring contest

Meraj99

So, kill it.

Arperum

@Meraj99 Lies

They might be randomly dropped, but they have consistent stats.

Meraj99

@Arperum Um, random stats, those just show the user's version :P

@Arperum and DUDE, I HAVE THE GAME AND I HAVE A TON OF LEGENDARIES.

Arperum

@Meraj99 Not completely random though, there seems to be something that will always be on a specific legendary.

Meraj99

12:14 PM

@Arperum But stats are random :P

Lazers

0

Q: Is Lord of the Rings: War in the north lag on mac?

Is this game laggy on the mac because I'm going to download Lord of the Rings: War in the north and I don't know if it will lag I have 2.3 GHz Intel core i5, with 4 GB of ram and I'm a bit skeptical about downloading the game and could you also recommend any other RPG games(swords and magic and s...

lotr-war-in-the-north

Meraj99

2 days ago, by kalina

@Meraj99 anything i7 is good

Why do all my games lag...

Arperum

@Meraj99 RAM? GPU?

Meraj99

6 GB ram with uh... Radeon HD 6700M

Arperum

@Meraj99 Internet connection?

Meraj99

12:18 PM

@Arperum 8mb/s, why does that matter...

Arperum

@Meraj99 Because the true meaning of lag is "seeing things later/not at all because of crappy connection to the server" or something like that.

lag is impossible on an offline game

Meraj99

@Arperum Well, basically, I have FPS lag.

@Arperum Why does AC4 lag..?

Arperum

@Meraj99 Define "FPS lag"

Meraj99

@Arperum FPS lag: The state of having 1 FPS, or similar.

Arperum

Low FPS? FPS drops?

5pike

12:20 PM

Mhh... looking at your GPU - it seems to be a bit old.

Is it a laptop GPU?

Meraj99

My lappy is 1 year old... ONLY o:

Yup.

Kevin van der Velden

@Meraj99 well there's your problem

You have a laptop

Fix that

5pike

It seems to be a GPU from 2011. Notebookcheck tells me, that it's not really a powerful one, so playing on medium can cause lag

Meraj99

@KevinvanderVelden My CPU does worse, but that has Intel pentium, some old nvidia GPU, etc :D

@KevinvanderVelden Basically, it is opened, and disconnected, and getting decomposed as we speak.

Kevin van der Velden

@Meraj99 CPU = central processor unit, I don't think your processor has a GPU =p

Arperum

12:23 PM

@5pike sys reqs for AC4

Meraj99

@KevinvanderVelden But my CPU has a GPU :(

Arperum

The desktop variantion barely scrapes the minimum requirements.

Meraj99

@Arperum How do I check the "MB" of my GPU? o:

Arperum

@Meraj99 Impossible. Your desktop PC might have a GPU, or an integrated graphics chipset, but it is not part of the CPU

Meraj99

@Arperum WHATEVER O_O, it's part of the whole arrangement of the universe.

qwertie

12:25 PM

►

5pike

@qwertie Will be to expensive to be viable. Except you are rich...

qwertie

@5pike Its still a amazing idea

Meraj99

@5pike Whenever I see the Razer logo, I get furious. :(

5pike

@qwertie Yeah

qwertie

@Meraj99 I have a razer naga and it wasent too expensive

Meraj99

12:28 PM

@qwertie Define 'Expensive'.

Arperum

@Meraj99 what does this say about your system?

Meraj99

@Arperum systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/… :(

qwertie

@Meraj99 I think it was $150

5pike

@qwertie HOLY HELL

Meraj99

@Arperum WHY DOES IT SAY MY PROCESSOR IS INTEL PENTIUM!!!!

qwertie

12:30 PM

@5pike it was worth it

best mouse I have ever used

Meraj99

o_O Everything is wrong.

Arperum

@Meraj99 Uhm...

@Meraj99 WHat does running a DxDiag tell you about your Processor?

Martin Sojka

I like my Logitech G700. Not the cheapest one in the world, but works nicely and is pretty comfortable. Not for lefties though, sadly.

Meraj99

dxdiag has detected that there might have been a problem accessing the system bla bla bla

AND

i7 o:

pastebin.com/Cpncgu48

Arperum

@Meraj99 This is weird.

Meraj99

12:36 PM

@Arperum Nevermind, refreshed my info on CYRI and it's right now :P

systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/requirements/…

Arperum

@Meraj99 I can't see your info there.

Meraj99

@Arperum :(

But still, fails :P

Arperum

@Meraj99 The only display thing I see in your dxdiag file is i-an integrated intel chipset, and that's not going to get you anywhere. You sure about that AMD Radeon HD 6700M?

Meraj99

@Arperum Yea...

@Arperum Btw, it's a HP, and my cousin seems to be telling me about this "overheating problem"... that it?

5pike

@Meraj99 Is the laptop hot while you play?

Meraj99

12:40 PM

@5pike Er, kinda.

Arperum

@Meraj99 If overheating is an issue, that might cause the whole thing to basically crash yes.

Meraj99

@Arperum Um, no, just lags.

Arperum

@Meraj99 How much FPS do you get? Literally 1 or is that figuratively speaking?

Meraj99

@Arperum Um, on the lowest game resolution (I think it's 800x600), and desktop resolution 1080p, I get um, 23 on average?

@Arperum On max rez, I get 23 highest :3

5pike

@Meraj99 Graphic settings High/Medium/Low ?

Meraj99

12:44 PM

@5pike Um, high: 23, medium: 14, low:5?

@5pike Oh wait,

@5pike Everything on lowest :D

Any clues? :(

5pike

Ok, something is strange - it seems that there is no GPU with the name AMD Radeon HD 6700M, but there is a SERIES of them (like 6700M, 6600M).

It would be good to know which exact GPU you have

LessPop_MoreFizz

Can someone up vote my answer in this so I can point a dupe to it? (The dupe is slightly older, but much lower quality.)

Meraj99

Alright, in the exact words of "Device Manager", "AMD Radeon HD 6700M Series" O_O

LessPop_MoreFizz

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Q: What did Edward tell me?

I received the instructions from Edward on brewing Fiz, such as they were. Unfortunately I can't remember the exact details of what he said, and now I'm stuck. For example, I think he said to talk to someone about the albino bees? But I don't remember who or where. What did he tell me?

fiz

Gaming Topics From Outside

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Q: I can't adjust brightness in games or in NVDIA control panel

I can't adjust brightness in games or in NVDIA control panel when i change the brightness it changes for very few seconds and returns back !! i tried the old driver and the newer one ... problem still here

nvidia vga gaming brightness

Meraj99

12:55 PM

@5pike After possibly a month or so of searching, I THINK I have found a driver for this.

Gonna install it and check.

5pike

Oh boy, it's a really weird situation.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Help me close the duuuuuuuupe.

Stupidest rule ever must be worked around.

Meraj99

@LessPop_MoreFizz Um, explain your situation?

LessPop_MoreFizz

Two questions with zero up voted answers. Dupes.

An upvote on my answer, which someone has now kindly cast, has allowed me to vote to close this other question as a duplicate of it.

Thanks Mystery Upvoter!

Meraj99

One question needs to be answered with an upvoted answer? :P

OrigamiRobot

1:03 PM

Yes

LessPop_MoreFizz

Yes. You can't vote to close as a dupe unless the target has an upvoted or accepted answer.

Oh good. @origamirob can explain it. I need to leave.

OrigamiRobot

Nope, I'm leaving too.

Meraj99

:P

LessPop_MoreFizz

(Hence my rush to beg for an upvote so I could get the process started before heading out the door.)

Anyway, 3k people: Dupe.

Meraj99

@LessPop_MoreFizz Voted :D

There should be rep for successfully closed/reopened :(

Sterno

1:20 PM

@LessPop_MoreFizz I just cheat if an upvote isn't warranted.. I upvote, vote to close, and unupvote

I AM A TERRIBLE PERSON

Extra terrible since that sentence had two periods in it.

Mechanical Loon

@OrigamiRobot That underground hands guy in the well is both the creepiest and easiest enemy so far in OoT.

Meraj99

K, installed driver, gonna check it :P

Blem-ba Fett

@LessPop_MoreFizz blindly followed your command @LessPop_MoreFizz

Mechanical Loon

Not having ever done the well before, it took me less than 10 minutes to accidentally find the Lens of Truth.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@sterno problem is that I wrote the answer that needed an upvote to get the process going.

Arperum

1:49 PM

@Sterno Still better then four periods.

LessPop_MoreFizz

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Q: On ending Chronological Oppression with respect to the matter of Question Duplication

Yesterday, a question was asked. It wasn't a very good question, but it was a valid, cromulent question. I wouldn't downvote it, or vote to close it in a vacuum, but I also wouldn't upvote it either. It should also be noted that it doesn't have an upvoted or accepted answer. This morning, anothe...

discussion closing exact-duplicates

I made a meta post.

Sterno

That got downvoted quickly

Mechanical Loon

Ageism is bad.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Sterno I would expect more to come.

Sterno

@MechanicalLoon DARN RIGHT

LessPop_MoreFizz

1:55 PM

There are people who are Very Adamant that the dupe must ALWAYS BE THE OLDEST QUESTION.

Sterno

I'm pretty okay with it if it has no answers. It gets weird if the older one has answers, though.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Sterno Not if the newer one also has answers and they are objectively of higher quality/more complete/more thorough.

Sterno

@LessPop_MoreFizz You keep using the word "objectively" like there's some measurable criteria we can apply that everyone won't argue about.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@Sterno well, when in doubt, you can always go by number of up votes. :P

Sterno

True.

I'm remembering this situation:

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Q: What do you do when a question is asked which is a collection of other asked questions?

We've had a lot of traffic for candy-box-2 today. One of the encounters is with a squirrel who poses a series of riddles. As people got stuck on various riddles, they asked questions about the problem they had (a particular riddle) and got an answer about it. What is the answer to the third squ...

discussion questions

Mechanical Loon

1:59 PM

Retroactive duplication is monstrous. — LessPop_MoreFizz Oct 25 '13 at 2:09

Sterno

Normally though you only hit the situation if you're detecting the dupes well after the fact. Otherwise the new one probably doesn't have time to get some awesomely better answers than the old one

Mechanical Loon

@Sterno I think that's the argument for ageism.

LessPop_MoreFizz

Anyway, point is, when trying to decide which of two answered duplicate questions to close and point to the other, the first consideration should be: Is the answer on either question better. The second consideration should be: Is one question better than the other in some way (better written, more complete, more context, etc.). Only then should the question be: Which one was first.

Mechanical Loon

If we're doing our jobs, it wouldn't possibly get to a state where the new one is better than the old one.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@MechanicalLoon I was specifically referring to the practice of asking a new question specifically to point a bunch of old ones to as dupes.

Sterno

2:01 PM

My meta was about a case too where the guy did it on purpose, and asked and answered his own question. it was basically "I can do this better"

Mechanical Loon

@LessPop_MoreFizz Oh yeah that's just unconscionable.

LessPop_MoreFizz

@MechanicalLoon Yeah, which is really what the question Sterno asked was about.

Sepia Lazers

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Q: On ending Chronological Oppression with respect to the matter of Question Duplication

Yesterday, a question was asked. It wasn't a very good question, but it was a valid, cromulent question. I wouldn't downvote it, or vote to close it in a vacuum, but I also wouldn't upvote it either. It should also be noted that it doesn't have an upvoted or accepted answer. This morning, anothe...

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