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8:00 AM

@Arperum You know she uses Windows 8 too

@badp That is just for preparing the most efficient way for purging.

I've read that you can go immediately to desktop without switching to it from Metro after boot.

@spyder yes. but AFAIK the start screen is still there. the wifi selector's still metro. the "open with" dialogue is still metro. Some notifications are still metro.

(Oddly enough, e.g., Skype for Metro detects incoming calls way before Skype for Desktop does)

@badp Stardock will save me, I believe

@badp By design probably. So people have another reason to switch to it.

8:04 AM

@Arperum I think it's more like so you have time to actually launch Skype

@spyder And StarCraft in the title, so which one is it?

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Q: How to proceed when reviewing questions with helpful comments

When reviewing I've found cases similar to this incomplete answer, where there is a comment explaining how to improve it. What is the correct procedure? Should I upvote the comment? Should I "Looks good" it so it is managed by the votes alone?

discussion reviewing

Interesting

@5pike Far more interesting is how Texas has 20 000x more votes than all other states combined

@PrivatePansy Just saw that - seems that it got flodded by "no" votes

8:10 AM

@5pike I like that most states have under 15 votes, then you got a couple of states with 1000-1500 votes, and then there is Texas with 408k

smells a little of voting fraud

@Blem Or some people who ran around half of texas with a tablet and made people vote.

@Blem It is, apparently. Someone shared it on FB

But 100% no looks very much like fraud yes.

@5pike I like this quote from that site:

> Playing GTA IV didn't make me a pro bowler,it won't make me shoot my cousin either.

@3ventic Hehehe - I like that

8:23 AM

This game is fun

@fredley only web? :(

@spyder Yeah, someone should release a map pack

this is depressing

back in the good days I used get 800 spam messages every month

but last thirty days I only got 46

forty-six

and my email address is in clear plaintext on my profile page

NOT EVEN SPAMMERS BOTHER ANYMORE NOWADAYS

@badp Post your email address here and we can resolve your issue together

WHAT WORLD IS THIS?!

8:30 AM

All of us is stronger than ~~one of us~~ @badp

badp ♦, Italy

32.4k 13 109 256

minecraft team-fortress-2 steam die2nite achievements pc portal-2

@Arperum I like metro

@badp Not an email address

don't understand the fuss

Make me a mod so I can see your email address

8:32 AM

@fredley Have you tried reading?

@kalina I like the Metro, it always has such random stories

@fredley facepalm

@badp I HATE READING

@fredley node.js: You start to asynchronously shoot with asynchronous hand to asynchronous foot, asynchronously miss and get caught in this mess.

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Ok, I'll sign you up for some spam now

You wanted an account at LiveJasmine right?

8:33 AM

btw support for Windows 7 ends in January 2015

Oh my bad, you've already got one.

@kalina hi :)

@badp Hope windows 9 comes out December 2014 then

@spyder o/

@kalina Only shooting a camera never triggered an alarm in my games...

8:43 AM

well we've had it happen

@kalina Ok - which heist?

various

Strange - as I said, it never happened to me.

we had an instance in framing frame lastnight where a single bullet through a camera resulted in a "police called due to broken camera" message

stealthing day 3 of framing frame felt awesome

@kalina Because it is

Did it alone once - so much easier with at least 1 buddy, though.

8:45 AM

all the gold and everything

only on v hard though rather than overkill

but because it was pure stealth it wouldn't have made much of a difference on day 3

we can't do day 1 stealth yet though

I might? have fraps'd it

I know I got a couple of our heist attempts

@kalina Day 1 on stealth is harder then day 3 IMO

I duno, we can get into the building and get paintings

it just needs a little more care imo

in the end on day 3 we went with the "kill 4, dominate 1" tactic

and then just casually walked around the house picking stuff up

@kalina Yeah, that's the preferred approach.

@5pike How do you get the gold out alone?

Is there no laser in the vault if solo?

@3ventic I was lucky - the valut was in the bedroom. It's possible to deactivate the lasers, run in and get 1 bag out

Was tedious, though

8:53 AM

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Q: What actions result in the police being called?

Recently a team that I have been playing with an I have been trying to stealth through a variety of levels, attaining limited success with Nightclub raids and Bank Heists, while successfully completing day 3 of Framing Frame without getting spotted. It wasn't easy through and required a lot of tr...

$ ls
Foot.c foot.h foot.o toe.c toe.o
$ rm * .o
rm: .o no such file or directory
$ ls

It's very risky to run there

@3ventic 4 guards were dead, 1 was dominated and every camera was destroyed.

@5pike That makes the job a whole lot easier..

9:04 AM

@spyder git reset --hard

I just thought you should all watch this Elite: Dangerous video.

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A: How can I move an installed game from one Steam library folder to another?

Ah, the bountiful pipe of 40Mbps with the added comfort of the Steam Cloud. Ah shit! I just deleted Borderlands 2, what am I to do? Oh, let me just re-download it. Sixteen minutes to completion, you say? Off I go to take a dump, I say. On the serious side, if you want to work smarter: use "Age...

Is that spam or just an answer needing half of it removed?

9:20 AM

@Arperum It doesn't answer the question

Agent Ransack (from what I have read) is just a file locater

Would fit into a question like "Can't locate game files" or something

@5pike And that part was edited in after a bit. So it started with only a part that needed removal.

@5pike But a wrong answer isn't removed, it's just downvoted into oblivion.

@Arperum Yeah. Downvote and flag

@5pike Flag for low quality, spam or NAA? I have a feeling it'll add in links to some download for that agent ransack thing.

@Arperum I flagged it as " it is not an answer"

File locating != File moving

so tired

9:26 AM

Burn something

I think I'll rest for just a moment

@kalina I had the same feeling. Tried sleeping, ended up with half a dozen mosquito bites

Lovely time of the year for mosquitoes. Well, mostly all of the year here, actually

I'm tired from somehow losing multiple hours of sleep per night

literally poof, into the ether

I'll look at the clock and it'll be like 9pm

and then a few minutes later @RonanForman will say something like "oh, I'm going to bed, it's 2am"

@PrivatePansy Over here summer is kind of seriously over. No more mosquitos.

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9:37 AM

Last winter, a mosquito survived in my bedroom. The sucker kept waking me at ungodly hours.

@PrivatePansy beivarb?

@3ventic "Just today my mosquito bites spelled out BEWARE" "It says BEWARB"

I'm ready to play!

New toys? For me? I promise I won't break them this time

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Mosquitoes are harmless..

Time for a new game! My old toys will fight my new toys!

I'm tired of these toys. I don't want to play anymore!

9:44 AM

@3ventic Unless the one that bit you has malaria. Or dengue fever. Or yellow fever. Or West Nile Disease. Or...

Kevin van der Velden

@5pike eek tar D:

I don't know what's worse--the fact that after 15 years of using tar I still can't keep the flags straight, or that after 15 years of technological advancement I'm still mucking with tar flags that were 15 years old when I started.

Kevin van der Velden

@5pike jeah

@PrivatePansy there are no such things on mosquitoes around here..

@5pike tar --help?

Kevin van der Velden

10:01 AM

@3ventic tar xf file.tar

tar -t tar.tar

Kevin van der Velden

tar e*X*tract F*ile* file.tar

mine only uses 3 different letters

Kevin van der Velden

that is a plus :)

and you can also remove the -

10:04 AM

@3ventic Does that really count as a tar command?

technically, since you can chose the file name you could have tar t t

@5pike On linux it does, idk about unix

10:20 AM

couldn't you just tar zcf home.tar ~

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Q: How can one counter offensive teleports?

I was playing some Mortal Kombat with one of my colleagues the other day. Having never played as Smoke, I decided to give him a spin and then promptly murdered my opponent by making liberal use of Smoke's ability to teleport around the screen and deliver a hit. While I was certainly enjoying mys...

mortal-kombat-9

:(

my file server isn't accepting rdp connections

well, more like it is

but then I get a black screen

such a sad story

oh right, burn notice season 7 actually ends with half the cast dying

10:40 AM

@kalina that is not enough

the review says this last episode is full of explosions and death

and since breaking bad is failing to fulfill my requirements in the explosions and death departments, I guess I'll just have to take what's available

PREVIOUSLY ON AMC'S BREAKING BAD

11:01 AM

@Mana Is it just me or pretty much all of the recent green-on-white text has been completely incomprehensible?

11:36 AM

Hmmm, time to see if Ingress is fun

Might even persuade me to leave the house, some

@kalina I watched about 15 of the last 20 minutes. People died, but it felt like they died just so the show could kill someone.

The action scenes were pretty horrible

yeah I just saw the house explosion

ironically right

the place they recorded the show

miami whatever wanted to pull it down a couple of seasons ago

and gave them the option to keep filming if they destroyed it themselves

large complex that housed most of the set

they turned around and said "we aren't a demolitions company"

missed opportunity for huge explosions imo

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@kalina That was mere moments after he cried!

I saw that

a single lonely tear

11:47 AM

Granted I missed the first 40 minutes of show, but I saw no reason for anyone from the cast to be in that house when it exploded

some bullshit about setting off c4

"Our detonator has a 2 foot range!"

So, I have Smooth Talker and Dominator now

I actually had them yesterday when we were trying to stealth, but had just bought them, never used them, and wasn't sure how they worked

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Q: Dell M14x Alienware cannot play 1999 Street war

I've installed the old school 'Street Wars/Mob Rule' game to my laptop. When I run the game, suddenly I can only heard the sound but no display.When I click Alt+Tab button to change a window, the game display appear for a while. It also happen with 'Neighbors from Hell' game. Is it because of scr...

technical-issues

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Q: Skill change penalty during a battle

There is any penalties for changing my selected skills during a battle? Sometimes come in handy a spell or skill that you don't have selected, to fight bosses for example. Can I freely change in any moment my set of skills to use the one I want during a battle with no drawbacks? If there is pena...

diablo-3 diablo-3-console

Not aure if I like the game, but one thing is for certain - the game is a huge battery hog

5% in 20 minutes

well that wasn't a great episode

@Sterno dominator you surprise a guard/cop and shout him down

if he refuses, shoot him in the knees and shout him down more

smooth talker, you just hold the use key to activate pagers

don't let go until the circle goes away

11:55 AM

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allows you to answer 4 instead of 2-3

RANDOM PONIES FOR NO REASON. HULK RAGE.

nothing wrong with random ponies

if you turned all the payday 2 civilians into ponies I'd never kill any of them

I am bored

I want to payday

but I can't payday

because it's a workday

I can payday :3

I don't like you anymore

11:59 AM

@kalina That hasn't stopped me two days of this week.

anymore?

@3ventic you're right, die in a fire

@Sterno pff

I would install it and play it at work but it requires a little more attention than I am able to spare while still looking busy

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@3ventic ah yes, I remember setting fire to this one

such fond memories

I like you more every day.

12:01 PM

that happens

most people aren't sure about me at first, then they go through a phase of liking me, and then that liking turns into disliking

I blame @Wipqozn

@kalina Tip: don't aim-down-sights at the guard you want to dominate. They tend to start shooting.

but that could be coincidental

@5pike I don't care if I dominate them or turn them into a corpse

either way achieves my end goal

@kalina Well, that is for certain

it's like @OrigamiRobot shouting down a room of people, cable tieing them, and then me walking in, killing them all and bagging them

But saw many stealth runs go down the drain because of this

12:05 PM

I leave dominating during stealth runs to @OrigamiRobot or @RonanForman

I mainly do headshotting and bagging during stealth runs

oh and high level ECM

@kalina I mainly do missing the guard and filling the wall behind him with bullets on stealth runs.

Luckily I use a silenced assault rifle so I have 22 tries to kill one.

@3ventic at the start of the night I usually get silly accuracy, which slowly fades as I get more and more tired

so on our first attempt I will usually use one bullet per guard

and on our last attempt I will usually use 2-4 bullets per guard, plus the additional spray required to kill cameras, break through glass, etc

One does not simply break through glass on a stealth run.

as @RonanForman will point out

pff, glass

is nothing

break it, see if anybody... oh, alarms going off

;\

What do people use to stream payday 2?

12:08 PM

stream?

oh

I use my face.

If I run xsplit and payday 2 at the same time, payday just crashes constantly

anything you'd normally use to stream

I stream it directly through my eyeballs.

@3ventic @James had that issue, I think he fixed it though.

12:09 PM

I have 182gb of fraps video from lastnight

You should ask him, I know he uses xsplit.

I don't have our framing frame run though

but then again I could use something else to stream..

@kalina Dammit!

@RonanForman I know

the moment we finished I was like

"huh, should have recorded that, I'll open up fraps in case we one shot the bank"

12:10 PM

@kalina You need a hostage-killing montage video, set to appropriate music, like some Sarah McLachlan song or something.

so I'll rephrase

I have 182gb of failed bank heists

@Sterno something properly depressing /wrists music?

Yes

well I have 2tb of space, I'll keep these videos for now

then we can have a "very best of... getting detected" video as well

full of any instances of guards spotting us through walls etc

I'm really wondering what's up with that.

well, it's not really a stealth game

it's an FPS that has stealth strapped onto it

12:11 PM

If you're going to make a job like Framing Frame Day 3, your stealth system should work.

hah

that job felt so epic to complete

Though I think we could have done the shootout version with a 4th member

yeah but stealth = bags of gold and achievements

although I guess we have the achievements now

Yeah, but finishing before me and @wipqozn had to leave = getting at least some money and xp

First time I got framing frame day 3 done in full stealth was awesome.

12:13 PM

@Sterno true

@5pike xcf?

we should spam some rats and get everybody some levels

I want to try Framing Frame solo

Oh @kalina your comment about it all of a sudden being 2am it just as true for me.

But getting through day 2 solo might be rough

12:14 PM

@RonanForman I know, I don't get it at all.

Maybe if you just don't carry any bags

I looked at the clock lastnight, it was 9pm

we did framing frame, suddenly it was like 2am

same deal the night before, and before that, and before that

Is it 1:15pm for you guys right now?

yeah

Kevin van der Velden

@Sterno 2:15pm here

12:15 PM

yawn morning

Kevin van der Velden

Morning

payday 2 creates a time dilation field around its players

I was hanging around figuring one of you would end up dropping out since it was 2am for you, but noooooo

time goes faster outside of the field

@Sterno I am going to be playing most of the night tonight

I want to get to level 70

@Sterno Sorry, if I knew you wanted to play I would have dropped out.

12:16 PM

Then you can fight the dude in that one wizard tower.

@Sterno that's 80

but ok

@RonanForman Pubbing is okay too. It's a judgment-free time for me to try out mechanics i don't understand and get yelled at by my team

nothing quite as awesome as jumping into rats or watchdogs on day 3 with the team running towards the escape van

@kalina Fixed. Sort of. A little.

everytime I join one of those I do a little dance irl

12:17 PM

@Sterno Rodney?

I still need to work out how the pager mechanics work, I thought I understood them but it doesn't quite work.

no he obviously means Illidan

@Sconibulus Kel'tha-something-or-other. I don't know.

@RonanForman what doesn't?

@Sterno kael'thas sunstrider?

Also I don't know what causes a nightclub mobster to be alerted.

12:19 PM

@RonanForman body odour, that's why I've never set one off like that

It had a stupid fight with little red riding hood

@Sterno oh you're talking about karazhan

@RonanForman You being in view slowly builds up a suspicion gauge. How quickly the gauge builds up depends on your visibility.

I wish I could purge all of my wow knowledge

@kalina I'll go with that.

12:20 PM

And where you are, I think.

@kalina Apparently I have succeeded at this.

@Yuki nah he's talking about casing nightclub

bumping into guards is instant alert even while casing

@RonanForman I'd reckon it could be lag

ie: the guard isn't actually where you see him

Do you ever get to kill Medivh again?

@kalina WoW is a waste of life

wench of wisdom

12:21 PM

If I remember correctly, pagers can only be answered 2 or 3 times by people without the appropriate Mastermind skill.

'Cause that guy and his stupid face caused all the problems

Those with the right skill can answer pagers up to... 5 times?

@Yuki 2 guaranteed, up to 3 with a % chance, afaik

@Yuki 4 guaranteed, % chance of more

But Ghosts can bag corpses and for some reason, they don't get called on their pagers.

@Yuki I've not seen this, I can't bag until after answering the pager

12:23 PM

@kalina Well, just answer once and then bag.

They don't get called again.

they only get called once anyway?

@kalina No, pagers get called multiple times.

interesting

I have never seen that

we must be too good at the game

@Yuki I have also never seen this.

@RonanForman Huh. They might have changed it, but I distinctly remember one guy's pager being called multiple times.

12:26 PM

@RonanForman I thought lastnight as I fell asleep, that I'm bored of being the one that sets off the alarms, so you can lead tonight

;p

@kalina I'll try, but I doubt I'll be any better.

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Q: How does the Smooth Talker skill work when other players are involved?

Players can normally answer three pagers* successfully without any help from skills (Source), but that number increases to four for players with the Smooth Talker Skill. How does this work when some players have the skill but others don't? Can anyone successfully answer the first three pages as...

G'morn all

@GraceNote Mornin'

@RonanForman it's fine, I just need a few games where it wasn't me that pulled attention :p

@Sterno the answer on this disagrees with my sources

12:34 PM

@kalina Write a new one!

I have

I'm contemplating asking a question about the possible item locations on Framing Frame day 3

short of working it out through trial and error, I doubt there will be a quick answer

Have you ever had a 3rd try work for you?

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Q: How can I stop creeps from spawning in DoTA?

Can somebody please tell me how to disable creeps from spawning in DoTA? I have Googled it but can't find a command that will achieve this. I have tried -killall , -spawnoff , -disablecreepspawn, but nothing helps.

12:37 PM

@kalina I'm not sure where on your linked site it talks about the % chance

@Sterno oh the % chance is based off me answering a third pager in game the other day without issue but not being able to replicate it since

however if you read the text for smooth talker

it clearly states "at least" four pagers

which is basically the same as saying "% chance"

That is true

Every mission I keep getting masks and colors and crap instead of weapon mods. It's getting annoying.

I could have a friggin' pony face and I wouldn't care. I just want to shoot things.

yeah there is a perk in the ghost tree that reduces the number of mask drops

So many ways to troll this game.

Like kicking someone out right before the end of a 3 day mission

@Sterno yeah I have

here is somebody else who has as well: steamcommunity.com/app/218620/discussions/0/864976837729330053

3rd try without the skill is a very low % chance, I imagine 5th try with the skill is the same math

no, that post is something different

"If a guard is killed during the stealth portion of a heist, then a player must answer his pager quickly or an alarm will be raised. If the player cancels interaction with a pager, or if too many pagers have already been answered – usually two without the Smooth Talker skill"

"usually"

12:46 PM

Oh, so it's just ever stopping holding F, that makes sense.

Michael Dunfield

This payday game you guys are talking about sounds really cool

@MichaelDunfield That's because it is.

@RonanForman oh yeah if you let go of F before the timer finishes and disappears you fail

same with everything

nothing more annoying that picking a lock, letting go of F at 100% and then having to start again

payday.wikia.com/wiki/Spook

@kalina We need him.

@fredley Give me something to star.

12:55 PM

@Sterno Star this

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@kalina Certain things keep progress, like putting but boards, if you stop it is much faster the second time.

GOG is releasing Stargunner for free gog.com/gamecard/stargunner

@RonanForman didn't know that

ok so at some point in the future there are going to be another 5-6 levels added, a special enemy, and a female crew member

Welp. I now have dementia.

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@kalina I hope that they make the 7 day job good

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