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7:00 PM

That reminds me, I loaded MSE, MalwareBytes, Spybot, and Adaware (and one more thing I can't remember for some reason) onto my flash drive for when I visit a relative next week.

@badp No, but I'm not using Chrome at the moment.

I've got "1 new comment" but "You have no comment notifications at this time."

@Powerlord Adaware got bloaty too.

@Powerlord I mean, from Steam.

And that's assuming full PSU load so it's a gross overestimation

@badp I'm at work right now, so can't check.

7:00 PM

@Powerlord I mean in general

@badp Nope, can't say I have.

k

I guess there must be active threads in places I subscribed to but no longer have access to or something

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Q: How can you create a chat gallery to talk one-on-one with another person?

How can you get to talk with another person you're having a problem with? This is to solve the problem of course and also to make sure there isn't any unnecessary down voting on random questions and answers.

discussion chat

How did I miss this?

Scoregasm and Irukandji are on IndieGameStand

@OrigamiRobot Which is like $1000 over the life of my computer, without much inconvience. Plus we have a few other computers where we do that same.

7:02 PM

Yay, Firefox 23 just crashed.

@StrixVaria Why does this have downvotes, there's nothing to disagree with. It's a question.

@StrixVaria chat.stackexchange.com/rooms/9953/…

The result.

@Ullallulloo I consider putting my machine in standby every day a huge inconvenience.

@fbueckert I am afraid to click.

@StrixVaria There's nothing there.

7:04 PM

@OrigamiRobot Win + Right + Enter takes like a second for me.

@Ullallulloo That's a weird keyboard combination

@Ullallulloo Let me clarify: Taking the machine out of standby

@OrigamiRobot face + keyboard

@Ullallulloo Your computers last 9 years each?

That's a pretty long time.

@GnomeSlice People must think it's a bad question then.

7:05 PM

~20 pieces of bacon on the plate, 20 pieces of bacon. Take them all, scarf them all down, 0 pieces of bacon on the plate~

@StrixVaria My father still uses DOS for his programming, his computers are ancient.

@StrixVaria Well, I replaced most of the parts in this one last year, and a few parts the year before because I wanted to upgrade, but yeah, all of our computers have lasted forever.

@GnomeSlice I can't imagine a good reason for doing this.

I think he just likes it. Plus he's written a ton of tools for himself over the years and they're all for DOS.

If I wanted to save money on my power bill, I'd stop running the dryer every morning to warm my clothes.

7:06 PM

I don't even know what languages he uses

Assembly something

@OrigamiRobot It's like 5 seconds.

I love not being able to copy paste via the keyboard, DOS is great

idk, doesn't bother me much.

@BenBrocka He wrote his own editor.

I think we've only had one computer go out in like 20 years.

7:07 PM

But it runs in DOS

Actually kinda funny the command prompt is the one place where I have to right click to copy/paste

though technically I'm talking cmd.exe I haven't used DOS in like a decade

@BenBrocka Download Console2

@GnomeSlice There are DOS emulators for Windows for the rare DOS program that doesn't just run natively in Windows.

12 mins ago, by OrigamiRobot

@Ullallulloo I have never had a good experience with this

For some moronic reason my desktop doesn't sleep, but hibernate works. Got tired of messing with it so I just set the sleep shortcut to hibernate and I just do it less often

7:10 PM

@StrixVaria Why bother switching though, if it works? He has a couple Windows machines if he ever needs them for anything.

My dad doesn't like distractions. He'll sit and stare at his work for hours and work it all out in his head and then write it.

@BenBrocka I've had hibernate fail to come back 2-3 times in the past, and I wound up having to do a normal restart anyway.

Now I just leave stuff on.

> The app enables users to order items from their local Domino’s pizzas establishment, take photos with the character Hatsune Miku and create video of Hatsune Miku dancing on a pizza box with a feature called “Pizza Stage Live.”

@StrixVaria Yeah I've had that happen too. I've been tempted to leave it on but the fans are just loud enough to bug me if I want it quiet

I like white noise.

I get bugged if it's ever too quiet.

I have tinnitus so silence is louder than a bit of noise.

I record stuff so I dread background noise

Doesn't matter if I'm not currently recording, I always notice and I want it to stop

7:14 PM

@BenBrocka Heh, my friend's like this

@BenBrocka You'd hate having my ears.

@OrigamiRobot This happens to me when I get wax buildup.

Gross.

@OrigamiRobot Yeah, tinnitus sucks. On rare occasion I'll wake up with a ringing in one ear but I don't have real tinnitus

Yeah, you're telling me

My ears are stupid

They are way too sensitive to pressure too

My ears pop so loudly when I fly that other people can hear it.

They bleed sometimes too

I hate it

7:16 PM

@BenBrocka I have constant ringing, but I can ignore it if there's other noise. Though, sometimes it get's really loud for a few seconds.

I can still hear very well though.

user15026

I am super glad I don't have issues with my ears because I am super sensitive to aural stuff

You guys should support this game on Steam Greenlight

@AshleyNunn what is "aural stuff?"

@Krazer Having to do with sounds/hearing.

As opposed to visual. stuff.

user15026

In general my sensory processing is rather broken.

7:22 PM

The feeling of a file on my fingernails makes me sick to my stomach.

user15026

Eeeergh. Anything rough (files, fabrics, clothes seams) is torture

Sounds don't bother me.

A lot of smells don't really bother me.

Skunks for example. I don't find them pleasant, but they don't bother me.

user15026

Loud sounds, buzzing sounds, blender or vacuum noises, beeping sounds are all bad

user15026

I sound weird.

Well, I should clarify. Sounds can be annoying, but I don't have any "nails on a chalkboard" reactions

7:25 PM

@OrigamiRobot The sound of nails on a chalkboard isn't bad. It's the thought of what it would feel like to make that sound that kills me.

@AshleyNunn I used to hate any socks that didn't have the seams on the very end.

@StrixVaria Oh god I know.

user15026

Seams in socks are gross.

Ugh, now I feel sick.

@AshleyNunn Now I hate socks like that.

user15026

7:27 PM

@origami if given a choice my feet and hands are always naked.

@Blem This looks pretty cool

Thanks

@AshleyNunn <3

user15026

I super do not want to write my econ exam at 4.

user15026

Anyone wanna pretend to be me and write some stuff about microeconomics?

Sounds like a @PrivatePansy kind of thing

user15026

7:31 PM

@timstone think he could make a convincing me?

@AshleyNunn I'll do it.

@Blem How soon is this coming to PC, do you know?

user15026

@origami perfect.

All I need to do is talk about cupcakes and beans.

@GnomeSlice Don't know, showed up after the video you linked

7:33 PM

I see.

And flopping and flailing.

user15026

@origami you know me so well!

Had anyone used a (gaming) Ideapad from Lenovo?I'm hearing iffy things about Ideapad in general (and modern lenovo in general)

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@OrigamiRobot good robot! Here's a silicon wafer with silver paste inside for later

user15026

@worldengineer is that like a robot cookie?

user20683

7:36 PM

@BenBrocka I have a samsung laptop, it was pretty solid

user20683

@AshleyNunn more or less

user20683

it's basically the robot version of one of those dutch maple waffle wafer things

user15026

Stroopwafels!

user15026

I love those.

user20683

me too

user20683

7:38 PM

noms

user20683

They are like all the best things about Canada wrapped into a cookie that's not even Canadian.

@WorldEngineer I ask because this thing appears to have a particularly solid price: dealzon.com/deals/…

@BenBrocka electric-cafe.bandcamp.com/album/aqua-kitty-soundtrack

Why is everyone discussing the Canadian-ness of food?

Better question, actually: Why am I surrounded by Canadians everywhere I go?

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7:42 PM

@feichinger because hello we are the most awesome and you can't escape that

@AshleyNunn Even @Wipqozn?

@AshleyNunn I'm too tired to argue that.

@fredley literally

user20683

@FEichinger Because it was the Canadians who actually won World War II and they now secretly run everything.

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@FEichinger Not sure why, but we're sorry if it bothers you.

user15026

7:43 PM

@origami there are exceptions to every rule!

user15026

@tugs yes that

@OrigamiRobot Especially Wipqozn!

@tugs Oh for the love of god! :P

@GnomeSlice Well quite

user15026

@worldengineer Shush you are giving away my country's secrets

7:44 PM

@WorldEngineer You know what? That would actually explain a whole damn lot.

LOST PLANET 3

user15026

Okay, sillybeans I love you all but it is time for me to hop off the Internet and dump some econ outta my brain meats.

@AshleyNunn I just read that as "I gotta eat some brains" ...

user15026

@feichinger and now you know how I learned it all in the first place.

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8:06 PM

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@StrixVaria Ha, was that real dialogue from Super Paper Mario?

I don't think I had the patience to go back and do the Sammer Kingdom.

@Powerlord Never played the game :(

@StrixVaria Well, there are 100 enemies you have to battle, but you can only do this battle after finishing the main game.

So, it was more for completionists.

(You still have to fight through 20 or so in the main game, but I don't recognize that line)

I should try one of the Paper Mario games. I heard they're good.

@StrixVaria If you liked Mario RPG, you'll like them.

8:13 PM

@fbueckert I played Super Mario RPG for a bit but never got into it.

I didn't dislike it; I just have a short attention span for individual games.

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@StrixVaria As your devotion to Monster Hunter shows. :P

@fbueckert A very good example.

@StrixVaria I'm going to point out that Super Paper Mario isn't actually an RPG like the other 3 Paper Mario games.

@StrixVaria I've got roughly 250 hours into that game already.

8:14 PM

@Powerlord Honestly, I didn't even know they had RPG elements.

Nevermind that they were actually full RPGs.

@fbueckert Honestly, I just don't like sitting on my couch.

I think if I dragged my computer chair into the living room I might enjoy it better :P

@StrixVaria You need a better couch.

@StrixVaria Yeah, Paper Mario was originally titled Super Mario RPG 2 until Nintendo ran into trademark issues with Square over the name.

or something like that.

My couch is old and ratty, and bloody comfortable.

@fbueckert Not in my current budget, but yes.

I almost always start falling asleep while sitting on my couch.

8:15 PM

@Powerlord Trademark issues with "Super Mario RPG 2"? What?

Both Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi series are RPGs... although they're... different than standard RPGs.

@StrixVaria Because Super Mario RPG was produced by Square, not Nintendo.

@Powerlord Oh, wow, that's lame.

I should definitely look at that series now, though.

Are there any for Wii U yet?

@StrixVaria Nope, they went to 3DS with the latest.

@Powerlord I'm getting one of those anyway, in a few months.

Super Paper Mario (which is more of a standard Mario game than an RPG) is for the Wii, though.

8:17 PM

I'll take a look at the Paper Mario stuff once I get the 3DS.

@Powerlord The 3DS has it's own line of Mario RPG-ish games.

@StrixVaria Now would be a good time to mention that I don't particularly care for Paper Mario: Sticker-Star Saga.

Paper Mario tends to be on consoles.

@fbueckert mariowiki.com/Paper_Mario:_Sticker_Star

Whoops, wrong link

Paper Mario: Sticker Star

|genre = Role-playing |modes =Single-player |ratings= |platforms = Nintendo 3DS |media = Download, ROM cartridge |requirements = }} Paper Mario: Sticker Star, known in Japan as , is a 2012 role-playing video game developed by Intelligent Systems and published by Nintendo for the Nintendo 3DS console. It is the fourth installment of the Paper Mario series and is the first game in the series playable on a handheld console. The game was released in North America on November 11, 2012 and in December 2012 in Japan, Europe and Australia. Like previous Paper Mario games, Paper Mario: Sticker Sta...

Note that's a 3DS game.

Having said that, they changed the gameplay significantly and not in a good way.

@Powerlord There's a reason "tends" is in that sentence.

8:20 PM

Having Bros. attacks be items in Mario & Luigi games works pretty well, especially since the game is really generous with them. Having every attack be an item in Paper Mario: Sticker Star? Not so much.

Especially since you have limited inventory space in Sticker Star.

@Powerlord Yeah, I hear that was one of it's main limitations.

@StrixVaria Anyway, if you're getting a 3DS, you might want to take a look at the Mario & Luigi games. The first one's a GBA title, sadly, so you might have issues getting that one. The other 3 are DS (for #2 and #3) and 3DS (for #4)

@Powerlord Is Dream Team the fourth?

@fbueckert Yes.

@Powerlord I've heard good stuff about that one.

8:23 PM

Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga, Mario & Luigi: Partners in Time, Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story, and Mario & Luigi: Dream Team.

@Powerlord I already have a DS, so I could start checking out the series now.

I need to get a 3DS for the new Pokemon gen, though.

@StrixVaria That comes out right before my birthday!

@fbueckert Yahtzee thought it was too repetitive. :(

(Hint, hint, @TrentHawkins)

@fbueckert It comes out right before my birthday, too...

8:24 PM

Also, I need spleling lessons.

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A: Is it possible to fire a lock-on Rocket Launcher in "Dumbfire" mode?

No, unfortunately not. Neither of the 3 warring factions have that capability. While it would be cool to have the makers specifically did that in order to nerf the power of the weapons and to make sure people just didn't run around with rpgs.

This answer exemplifies the problems with this guy's answers, and why he has so much rep.

First, there's incredibly little research behind it.

@fbueckert Mario Kart 7 for your birthday. Got it.

Second, people freaking upvoted him.

@TrentHawkins As long as it comes with a receipt, I'm good with that.

Third, the comment he posts on his wrong answer tells you that all he's after is rep, not quality contributions.

@fbueckert And the comment is kind of condescending, since the asker has already accepted multiple answers and has over 500 rep

You shouldn't assume people don't know the site just because they didn't already accept your answer

@murgatroid99 Who cares, as long as he gets the rep?

He loves to answer bounty questions with super low quality "answers".

Which is why he wanted bounties to be automatically awarded to the highest upvoted answer.

8:30 PM

@fbueckert Yea, I just don't see what we can do about it. This behavior is borderline abusive, but people are kind of explicitly allowed to post incorrect or low quality answers

@murgatroid99 All we can do is hold him to the higher quality standards we have here, and do our best to downvote into oblivion any crap he posts.

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Either he shapes up and starts posting higher quality answers, or he leaves. Win-win, either way.

@fbueckert But of course, if you go through and downvote every bad or wrong answer he has posted, the serial downvoting script will just reverse it

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On the left we have the "aged" actors in Back to the Future. On the right we have them as they appear today.

8:32 PM

@fbueckert And if he ends up net positive overall (i.e. doesn't get 5 downvotes for every upvote), he may not care

@murgatroid99 I just see it as he posts it. I'm much quicker to downvote his answers than anyone except one-rep users, due to his penchant for not really trying to figure out if it's correct or not.

gaming.stackexchange.com/a/121543/8350

@murgatroid99 This guy could be a case study in why downvotes should detract more rep from the downvotee.

this is another good example

@murgatroid99 In which case, I believe he needs a temporary suspension to point out that we don't tolerate low quality.

8:33 PM

He literally knows nothing about the game. He just posted some random answer. When it was pointed out it was wrong, he edited it to try and take anothe shot at beign right. The asker then called him out on obviously not playing the game and he deleted his answer.

He didn't even bother to do a google search.

@fbueckert While I would like to agree, I'm not sure if action like that is justifiable

He's a terrible user.

He can go post crap on GameFAQs or Yahoo Answers. Wrong answers deserve being downvoted into oblivion, and then deleted.

@Wipqozn Please flag it with that as a comment.

@StrixVaria It's deleted

8:35 PM

@murgatroid99 You can flag deleted stuff for mod review.

@StrixVaria oh

You can, but I think it would make more sense to just gather a few examples of his behaviour and just ping @badp.

@murgatroid99 Users actively detrimental to the quality of the site is the main reason for suspensions, I believe.

> wrong answers deserve being...deleted

Yes!

EAsier then going around flagging a bunch of things.

8:36 PM

@Wipqozn That's another approach, I guess.

Usually happens to 1-rep users rather than someone with >2K rep, but if that's what it takes for him to learn we don't tolerate crap, then we should do that.

Education efforts seem to have largely failed with him.

@fbueckert I read "farty"

@OrigamiRobot Not my problem you read stuff that's not there.

Why is it that upvotes are worth so much more than downvotes?

@fbueckert Yes huh!

8:37 PM

The only reason he HAS over 2K rep is due to pity upvotes.

Anyone who sticks around long enough can accrue rep, no matter how crappy their contributions are.

@Sconibulus To counter malicious voting, and the belief that the fact your post helped a user is more important that it didn't help someone.

@Wipqozn That kinda makes sense for 2-3 times more, like with questions, but not 5 times more

Because there are always people who believe that every contribution is a special snowflake, and requires encouragement to grow.

maybe answer downvotes should be -4, since they take a point from the caster, and the upvote is twice as powerful as well

@fbueckert Well, yes, but that's not the reason.

That's the reason why some people upvote crap.

8:39 PM

...yes, downvotes are now spells

I say, if the snowflake can survive a five-second blast from a flamethrower, THEN it deserves recognition.

@Wipqozn I was continuing my thoughts, not interjecting into your conversation. :P

As far as I'm concerned we should implement a "Voting" queue, where all votes will get sent to a queue and need to be approved by a select group of users before going through. The group would consist of myself, @fbueckert, @StrixVaria, @OrigamiRobot, and anyone else whose voting ideals are close to my own.

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@Wipqozn There should be 3 options when reviewing a vote. 1) Accept. 2) Decline. 3) Ban user forever.

I support this system.

@StrixVaria Yes! This turns my fantastic idea into a perfect idea.

8:41 PM

@StrixVaria I say we turn option 3 into Hellban, where his votes always count as downvotes, no matter what he does.

Just add @TimStone to the list.

Until his downvote count matches his upvotes.

@fbueckert Everytime he tries to vote the system automatically downvotes one of his posts instead.

Who are we even talking about?

@Wipqozn Or gives him a suspension for a random amount of time.

8:42 PM

@OrigamiRobot Hypothetical users.

@StrixVaria STAHP

@StrixVaria I can't see this.

@OrigamiRobot Thank whatever it is that is preventing you from seeing it.

@OrigamiRobot It's the face of the user who we're talking about.

aka:

18 mins ago, by fbueckert

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A: Is it possible to fire a lock-on Rocket Launcher in "Dumbfire" mode?

No, unfortunately not. Neither of the 3 warring factions have that capability. While it would be cool to have the makers specifically did that in order to nerf the power of the weapons and to make sure people just didn't run around with rpgs.

8:43 PM

I can see the face, I just can't play the video.

The video's actually really entertaining if you approach it with the right mindset.

Bets on getting another whine about being downvoted?

@fbueckert This kid is getting rep way too fast.

He just edged 2000 the other day, and now he's at 2400+?

@StrixVaria Sheer mass of contributions.

Nothing else.

@StrixVaria And most of it by posting low quality crap.

8:46 PM

@StrixVaria Well, when you make sock puppets it's easy.

He has around 17 rep per post.

@Wipqozn I'm pretty sure his "little sister" is upvoting him.

That's less than two upvotes.

He's making me look bad... I think I hit 2k about the same time as him

@Sconibulus I'm not even at 1k yet :(

8:47 PM

Less than 50% of his answers have a score >0.

Such as this gem:

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Q: Errors with starting Runescape

When I try to start Runescape I get an error message that says: CLassNotFoundException and lists Rs2Applet.class. How do I fix this so I can play?

and only 15/65 answers have a score greater than 1.

@Wipqozn That's less than 25%.

I'm not at 20k yet :(

For reference, @fbueckert and I both have a rep per post around 57.

8:48 PM

I think he might be a sock puppet of the original master troll.

@StrixVaria Nope, he's too incompetent for that.

@fbueckert Master troll can feign incompetence.

@StrixVaria Not this badly, they can't.

@FEichinger 92% of my posts have a score >1. I'm sure you'd find the same for most users.

In fact I only have 3 answers with a score less than 1.

@Wipqozn Your rep per post is also close to 57.

That's curious ...

@OrigamiRob has a little more.

8:50 PM

95% of my answers have a score >0.

@StrixVaria 98% for me. I win!

100% of my answers have a score >0 :D

6 secs ago, by FEichinger

100% of my answers have a score >0 :D

But honestly, this user is terrible.

66 rep/post for me.

Including questions, which are crappy for rep.

8:51 PM

~3% of my answers have 0 rep.

I don't think there's any hope for him to change, since he's clearly using the site for the wrong reasons.

@StrixVaria Of course, this should also be weighed for the difference between Qs and As ... But I was not in the mood to type that in as well,.

@Wipqozn This. So much this.

I'm only at 88.8% greater than 0 rep, with the other 11.1% at 0, and only 47 rep/post... Guys teach me how to Stack! :)

@Wipqozn Well, it's up to us to hold him to site standards. Downvote often, downvote hard.

@fbueckert Aye, aye!

8:53 PM

Either he gets frustrated and leaves, or he starts posting higher quality.

Or we suspend him for low quality contributions.

Any way you look at it, we win.

As long as I am better than @Wipqozn in every way, I am happy.

@OrigamiRobot You should spend more time practicing Monster Hunter then.

buuuuuurrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnnnn

@Wipqozn Then stop studying and hunt with me!

@OrigamiRobot Do you still only use Dual Sword?

@StrixVaria The only other thing I am interested in is the Bow and they are so hard to use.

8:56 PM

@SaintWacko It's all on you, Deputy! We're the thin line between order and chaos!

Also @fbueckert part of the reason I got a little disheartened in Monster Hunter is when I realized bow is awesome but all my previous progress was essentially for naught because I need all new armor.

Unrelated: I'm proud of my little brothers (11yo twins). They've gotten a craft into Kerbin orbit completely on their own. That means they're better than @GnomeSlice! :P

@StrixVaria We can get you new armor

@FEichinger Wow

@OrigamiRobot I feel bad making you guys farm stuff just for me.

8:57 PM

@StrixVaria Luckily, with @Wipqozn and I (and @OrigamiRobot, somewhat), hunting high rank monsters is short and painless.

I'm still terrified of the Pink Rathian.

I had a bad experience.

@StrixVaria They spent time getting G-Rank armor for me.

@SaintWacko And that is why KSP is money well spent, no matter how you look at it.

My very first HR quest ever had me spawn between the legs of a Pink Rathian and instantly die.

@StrixVaria Revenge is a dish best served blazingly hot.

8:58 PM

@Wipqozn may remember this.

I enjoy fighting lower rank monsters. They die so fast.

@OrigamiRobot I love slaughtering Great Jaggis.

I just have no reason to right now.

Oh, another thing is that I hate using the bow when I'm not in a group.

@StrixVaria You should have seen us demolishing G-Rank Great Jaggi

8:58 PM

@StrixVaria hahaha, that was hilarious.

So what it amounts to is I have to have blademaster armor anyway if I ever want to play alone.

Anyway, I should give that game some more attention.

I'm still at the beginning of HR, though.

We can power through High Rank quests pretty easily now. You really only need to get one HR armor set at this point to get through, and then focus on upgrading your bows.

So it's settled. @Wipqozn and @StrixVaria and I are hunting tonight.

After that you just get a G-rank set and you're ready to go.

@OrigamiRobot tonight I won't be home.

8:59 PM

boooo

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