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2:01 PM
How is chat boring, when there's the Xbone and the PS4 to talk about?
 
more than disc topics they're mocking topics :P
 
I'm still waiting for Giving the Call of Duty Dog an Xbone.
 
@fredley I'LL BORING YOUR FACE!
 
Oh, I played ranked again last night.
Lost twice T~T
 
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2:05 PM
Is that the full character count?
 
@OrigamiRobot Still bored, and now you are to blame
 
there were 3 characters to spare
 
@BenBrocka Nice.
Epic Zalgofication.
 
Rally people to mid. Lose mid anyway. Build base between 2nd and mid. Survive four ubers on my toys. Cap mid. Push people to their second. Cap second. Buildo on their second. Cap last. Joyquit.
The best part was when the uber heavy came on my toys and the medic walked behind the sentry in an attempt to soak all the knockback
Pity I was wrangling it and the heavy lost uber and died immediately
@BenBrocka I could retweet that, but I wouldn't be able to top the creepy-Sonic-pasta avatar guy in that list honestly
 
The #Xbone appreciates all retweets
 
2:22 PM
@BenBrocka Minmaxing your Klout score, eh?!!?
oh lol
cmon. cooperate, paint
 
The Xbone is going to have so much Klout it will proactively social media engagement opportunities out the wazoo
I haven't used Klout since I noticed it completely ignores my 3000+ Youtube subscribers
despite being tied in to youtube
 
It seems like Twitter can detect Zalgo, although it can't translate from it.
 
wort wort wort
 
2:37 PM
Morning, Bridge
 
@SaintWacko Good morning.
 
Howdy.
 
Drama quota for the day:
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Pé de LeãoI got a Moderator Private Message, and at first, I was really grateful to get a response. However, I noticed the message in the sidebar: Our goal is to amicably resolve issues in a constructive way through direct communication. Please note that continuing to persist in problematic behaviors i...

 
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Q: Redstone clock leaks current

Stafford WilliamsI build a small clock like the example at the beginning of this video, however, the pulse redstone is triggered slightly every time the cobblestone blocks move over it, instead of just when the glass block goes over it. This is causing a pulse on every cycle of the pistons, rather than on every ...

 
2:47 PM
@GrumpyLazers Slow Grumpy Lazers
 
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Q: What do we do with historic question that no longer make sense?

fredleyMinecraft's new (as of 1.5) water physics mean that this question no longer makes sense as a question - the situation can no longer arise. Should this question be closed/deleted?

 
Yeah, that looks like a valid question
 
@OrigamiRobot This question is not historic
 
@fredley I know, I'm just trying to be less boring.
 
@OrigamiRobot There are other ways than arguing to be non-boring
 
2:50 PM
@fredley Prove it!
 
Not boring
Not an argument
 
I can't be that.
 
@OrigamiRobot You can post things that make me hate Americans
 
@fredley You hate me? :(
 
@OrigamiRobot I hate your species
 
2:54 PM
@fredley Hating Americans is a pretty American thing to do.
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@fbueckert hey that was yesterday's drama. You can't just repackage drama
 
@OrigamiRobot Stop hating yourself
 
@BenBrocka You can if you've taken the Drama Llama feat.
 
@BenBrocka I run through Meta.SO weekday mornings.
It's not drama until I find it.
 
@fredley Why? Are you saying Americans aren't hateable?
 
2:57 PM
@OrigamiRobot No, far from it
 
And technically, it's still ongoing, as he refuses to see that anything he did is wrong.
 
@fredley So why should I stop?
 
@fredley dat mullet
 
3:01 PM
@Ullallulloo Eh, Sony just bought an ad.
Not a big deal
 
Mildly amusing though.
 
@Ullallulloo That's very common. Ads are based on "this is a console" not "this is microsoft's unreleased console titled Xbox one"
 
@BenBrocka I know. :P
 
@BenBrocka No they're not, they're based on bidding for keywords. Sony has bid for 'xbox one' and outbid MS
It's called interception marketing
 
@fredley Which kinda explains Microsoft's stance on marketing this new console.
They don't seem to have a set plan in place at all.
 
3:08 PM
@fbueckert Oh they do, but they've clearly chosen their battlefields
Mostly they've been doing old-fashioned PR
i.e. doing a big launch, complete with teasers, and having it all reported in the mainstream press
 
@fredley When several reporters get conflicting information from different people at MS, that sounds like they don't have their shit together.
 
They clearly don't care about people who need to Google for the device getting confused
@fbueckert True. I didn't say they were doing it well
 
@fredley Eh, is it always that granular? You'd end up needing a pretty long list of keywords
 
@BenBrocka You can choose your granularity
 
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Thanks, Bing
 
3:10 PM
@fredley Apparently gamers are backwards for wanting backwards compatibility, and they're not the ones being marketted towards, anyways.
 
You can bid on a single word (words like pizza being very very expensive), but the more words you add the cheaper it gets
 
MS Logic: X360 compatibility (from 2005) = backwards thinking, but cable box compatibility (from the 70's) = THE FUTURE!!!
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@fbueckert They're probably not. Hardcore gamers are a relatively tiny group of people.
 
@fredley That's what they're good at, so it makes sense.
 
@ShotgunNinja Yup. They don't want to fuck up a big launch by straying from their core competency
 
3:12 PM
@fredley It's sending a message that gamers aren't the ones they're catering towards.
 
Personally, I'm getting the Wii U because of the Virtual Console.
I love my Wii's VC content.
 
@fbueckert So? Gamers can fuck off, they're not where the money is
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That's fair enough, but you can't really call it a gaming console if it's more an entertainment unit than a gaming console.
 
@BenBrocka It'd be nice if starring a tweet put the actual tweet on the star list.
 
MS wants control of everyone's living room
 
3:12 PM
Between my old games and Fortune Street, I'm set. I also play League and (sometimes) CS:S.
 
@fredley And I refuse to buy it for exactly this reason.
 
It's not about games, even if previous xboxes were
 
My privacy is exactly that.
 
@fbueckert Well that's fine, but for every gamer they lose they'll gain (x : x > 1) 'casual' users
 
@fredley Maybe. The jury's still out on that.
 
3:14 PM
Where they have calculated x
 
@OrigamiRobot yeah, it'd be nice if it showed some of the onebox content instead of the link's URL
 
The reason most people used the 360 as an entertainment unit is because they originally picked it up as a gaming unit.
 
@fbueckert They'll have sunk a shit-tonne of money into market research. Whether or not it plays out is to be seen, but they'll have evaluated the risks
 
Guys, I just want to play games, like I used to. Pop one in, rent it from Blockbuster, borrow it from a friend, etc.
 
@fbueckert So? That shift has already happened, it doesn't need to happen again.
 
3:15 PM
@BenBrocka brb, going to MSO
 
@fredley Not sure how many non-gamers are going to be interested in a $500 box for uh...voice commands and Halo TV + what their cable box already did
 
@fredley For casual users, yes, it does.
 
@ShotgunNinja Too bad. Your model of game consumption is obsolete. Here's a Facebook game.
 
@fredley But I hate Facebook games. They're annoying.
 
They're not going to pick up the Xbone unless it offers something their existing hardware doesn't.
 
3:15 PM
@fbueckert You mean like playing games?
 
@fbueckert This is not why most people buy devices
 
That's the thing. The Xbone is a smart set top box that just so happens to play video games.
 
@ShotgunNinja This.
It's part of the MS ecosystem, for want of a better word
 
@ShotgunNinja Except it doesn't even replace existing hardware.
You still need your old PVR and whatnot.
What does the Xbone do that isn't already done (and probably better, at that) by other, cheaper hardware?
 
@fbueckert Will Micro$oft have a fix for this, such that it can be added on to the console, perhaps?
 
3:17 PM
@ShotgunNinja They might. But if they do, they dropped the ball not announcing that bit.
 
I'd LOVE to see Xbone addons for, say, Charter, Time Warner Cable, or whatnot, that don't cost as much as the original set-top boxes we already have.
 
@fbueckert What does the iPhone 5 do that you can't do on the iPhone 4S? Almost nothing for almost everybody.
 
They have competition from stuff like the Roku, Apple TV, and Ouya if they're trying to market it as something else.
 
New version momentum is definitely at play here.
 
@ShotgunNinja Oh yes
 
3:18 PM
@fredley You're saying Microsoft is now marketing towards the elite, artsy crowd now?
In which case, I'm going to lump them into my Apple hate.
 
@fbueckert No, like Apple they're going for mass market (iPhones are used by a lot of people)
 
@fbueckert Didn't they buy Apple?
 
inb4 annual xbone releases.
@fredley The people that buy annual iterations of iPhones are those elite, artsy crowd.
 
@fbueckert xbone 2
 
@badp xbone 2s
 
3:20 PM
Xbone 2: Xboner
 
@BenBrocka xbonest
 
followed by Xbone 2: Episode 1?
 
Xbone 2 Xbone Harder
Xbone Mini
 
@fbueckert xbone 3G
 
Prepare yourself for an all-new, innovative, next-gen experience. #SteamOne maintenance planned for 16:00 PDT (GMT-7) http://bit.ly/16MmI40
 
3:22 PM
XBox pi
 
@fredley That's the point I'm making; if Microsoft expects people to buy this console to replace their existing hardware because it's "newer, better!", they have to continue to release new hardware, or those same people will just replace it the year after with something else.
 
Xbox i
That's the good one, but it's imaginary.
 
@badp xbone 4Gs
 
@OrigamiRobot can I use imaginary money to buy it? Sold.
@fbueckert The New Xbone.
 
@badp We're laughing at it now, but what if that's what Microsoft is actually planning on doing?
 
3:23 PM
@fbueckert We'll laugh harder?
 
@badp And they'll have lost the gamer crowd entirely.
 
with a side of mayo and facepalms
@fbueckert They lost it at "Halo television series" honestly
 
@badp There are still some gamers who are loyal enough to buy this thing.
But releasing annual iterations of the console isn't something gamers will sit still for at all.
 
@fbueckert We'll just lump 'em together with the COD doods.
 
@fbueckert I am almost disappointed in myself to say that I might
 
3:25 PM
Entertaining:
 
There's no other way to play halo
 
@murgatroid99 I think the "thing" being the TV series, not the XBone
 
@badp Those don't even count as gamers, in my book.
 
@badp And I'll probably watch that too
 
3:26 PM
@kalina why?
 
I'm sorry.
 
@murgatroid99 Is Halo enough for you to buy the console all on it's own?
If so, fair's fair.
 
@fbueckert It's enough for me to consider it
 
@Ullallulloo it's ranting and is full of factual inaccuracies
 
I bought the Wii U for Monster Hunter alone.
 
3:27 PM
it also already has two delete votes
 
Almost every Xbox 360 game I own is halo
 
@kalina inaccuracy isn't a reason to delete.
Ranting is.
 
@kalina How about now
 
@Ullallulloo ranting and being not constructive is
 
27 secs ago, by Ullallulloo
Ranting is.
Usually you try to edit it out first though.
 
3:28 PM
@murgatroid99 Everyone has a series that they absolutely love.
 
@badp still don't like it
I will go back to shutting up though
 
@kalina You don't like anything except cake, fire, and sour skittles.
All perfectly reasonable things to like, mind you.
 
@murgatroid99 Same here
 
@SaintWacko The only one I don't have is CE, and that's because it would be redundant with Anniversary
 
3:34 PM
Ohhhh that PA article is from Ben Kuchera. That explains why it's full of shit
 
«These aren't crazy ideas. You can't sell your games on Steam, nor can you buy “used” Steam games. The same with iTunes. And e-books, with some exceptions.» That doesn't mean it's good.
@BenBrocka The idea where eliminating the second market magically makes all games cheaper sounds... appealing, but it's totally not going to happen.
If anything I imagine the first wave of new releases at an even higher price point across the board
 
@badp I am all for killing GameStop, but people should be able to loan their games.
 
I miss cheap games
well... cheap console games
I can get cheap PC games pretty easily.
 
@OrigamiRobot Yknow, you can't just give the finger to brick and mortar stores. In many cases driving to a store, picking a CD and driving back home is faster than downloading a blu ray's worth of content.
 
@badp Why bother reducing prices, when there's no used game market to compete against?
The price is the price, so suck it, poor people.
 
3:37 PM
@fbueckert To be fair the used game market has never really driven prices down
 
@badp I don't hate brick and mortar stores, I hate GameStop specifically.
 
@badp It's a control factor, at the very least, preventing prices from rising.
 
You know, guys, I wrote all of this up in a SWOT analysis of Valve this morning.
 
@fbueckert I think piracy is the much stronger factor
after all, if $20 (?) is cheaper than $60, $0 is much cheaper.
@ShotgunNinja link?
 
@badp Either way, all games will now be $60+.
Fuck you, consumer, your game's not used. Pay $60.
 
3:39 PM
@fbueckert I think I wouldn't be surprised if the first wave of game's $70
 
@fbueckert I thought the stores that do buy back games to sell used price them just low enough below the full price to be attractive, and make a very large profit on that. I doubt that can be an effective control on prices
 
@badp In a second, have to change my Dropbox password
 
@ShotgunNinja ouch.
 
@MadScientist By itself, no.
It sets a fantastic price for private sales, though.
 
@badp No used games market means people who sell used games aren't going to use that money to buy other games
 
3:39 PM
@fbueckert I don't 100% disagree with this, but more like 50%.
 
Kijiji is awesome for that.
Pay more than Gamestop would pay for it, but less than Gamestop would sell it for.
Everybody wins.
 
@BenBrocka His thesis is that you're not going to spend that money to begin with. And unicorns.
 
@ShotgunNinja wrong link, 403.
 
Fix'd
 
3:42 PM
I disagree with everything Ben says about used games.
 
@ShotgunNinja -1, Microsoft Word.
closes the document
 
Publishers will collude to keep prices high, and Microsoft will happily match whatever price they set, because more profit for them.
 
@badp His thesis is he's Ben Kuchera so he's going to say things people disagree with to get views and comments
He's the Kotaku of PA
 
10 mins ago, by badp
Ben Kuchera's being quite the devil's advocate lately.
 
That's a charitable way to put it
 
3:43 PM
@badp Oh come on, it's for a business professor who is a certified Microsoft corporate whore affiliate.
 
@ShotgunNinja I wasn't serious
 
I gotta say, I respected Ben quite a bit before that article.
 
@fbueckert Which article?
 
That said, I'd still have sent him a document written in LyX :P
 
@badp @ShotgunNinja
 
3:45 PM
@badp Her
 
@ShotgunNinja Details
 
Any company that decides that I don't actually own the content I hold in my grubby hands is someone who can die in a fire.
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I actually used one of Ben Kuchera's articles, if I recall correctly. Yeah, the one on Duke Nukem Forever.
 
Even Steam's a bit iffy; especially with that European ruling that says you can re-sell your digital games.
Unless every single game is within the $5-$10 price range.
 
@fbueckert It's more like you can't stop owning the games.
 
3:48 PM
@ShotgunNinja Did you omit the part where Steam's a private company with no stakeholders to respond to on purpose, or..?
 
Bad games on the XBone will be like diseases that you can't get rid of.
 
If you own it, you have the right to sell it
 
It could also be a threat because there's no external source of capital if things go south
(eh, the stock market takes capital away from you if things go south anyway)
 
@badp Yeah, kinda. Although I did mention "private stock options" at some point.
 
Yeah, you did.
 
3:50 PM
Again, I'm just trying to get out of this class. I have no clue how to write an actual SWOT analysis.
 
@Sconibulus I'm not going to give counter examples here, but I could. :P
 
I don't even know what a SWOT analysis is.
 
I also left one of the sections unfinished, ended with a comma.
Strengths, Weaknesses, Opportunities, and Threats.
 
@fredley If I am in the crafting bay and start a game, it still shows the crafting bay with the game under it. Then when the game is over, It bring up the arcade as well. I end up with both on screen.
 
It's for a business management course, and SWOT analyses are basically how you present your findings about a company.
 
3:57 PM
@OrigamiRobot Doesn't mean companies can't try.
That's what the current trend in big business is.
 
@OrigamiRobot You shouldn't be able to start a game from the crafting bay...
 
RIAA, MPAA, they're all trying to figure out how many times they can make you pay for the exact same thing.
 
aww, warp speed isn't there anymore...
 
@Sconibulus It comes up after 20 seconds
I want Time to be the only thing on screen to begin with...
Home time
And opera time
laters
 
Much of the problems with this "licensing" shit is that it feeds the big companies, not the content creators.
If there was a guarantee that 90%+ of the proceeds actually went to the creators, I could probably live with it.
This is just propping up businesses that refuse to innovate.
 
4:01 PM
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Q: Do I have to monitor the junk that fills in empty space?

ToomaiWhen there's not enough room in a zoned area to put up a building, it gets filled with a random piece of "junk" instead. This is most obvious in industrial zones because they tend to have larger space requirements, but it happens in residential areas too. Sometimes I see junk appear in areas tha...

 
Reminder: you must give somebody a cut of your sales on the XBone
 
@badp Which is why companies like EA is rubbing their hands.
 
...unless you are Microsoft
 
They can release absolute shit, and without used sales, they'll still turn a profit.
And if an indie made it, aww, too bad, so sad.
No cut for you.
 
Fedora for Raspberry Pi - Pidora. So funny name :D
 
4:09 PM
@spyder Just remember what Fedora 19 is called.
 
@FEichinger spherical cow?
 
@spyder Schrödinger's Cat.
 
@murgatroid99 I have CE, but I also got AE when my friend and I were doing a Halo marathon
Going from Reach graphics to CE graphics just wasn't working
 
@FEichinger Pidora in russian == faggot. All Russian community discusses what to do with it and how to call its users :'D
 
@spyder A different me would now argue "That's pretty appropriate for Fedora." I just hope it's intentional.
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4:16 PM
@fredley how do you get more dust?
ahh, from asteroids, apparently
 
Why is almost everything in a reasonably normal conversation starred?
 
Because faggots.
Fedora just called its product faggots.
 
@Ullallulloo Didn't a new user start starring every little thing earlier today?
 
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4:44 PM
@fredley Well, there's the problem then.
 
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Q: What kind of lag should I expect when gaming with a KVM?

GaryI've got an iMac, and am going to get a PC for purely gaming. I'm going to use a KVM to share an external DVI monitor, USB keyboard, and USB mouse between the iMac and the PC. What kind of lag or other drawbacks should I expect when gaming with this setup? Is there usually a noticeable video del...

 
5:01 PM
 
Half-day meetings are so much fun.
I'm spending more hours in meetings today than at my desk
 
5:17 PM
> Twitter's login verification sends a code via SMS to be entered to confirm login. But unlike Google's system, the code will be sent every time users sign in to Twitter through its website. [...] There's no way to use standard, generic authentication apps to generate time-based, one-time passwords. So if you can't get the SMS, you're out of luck. And unlike those systems, there's no facility to create persistent application-specific passwords.
blech
I can see why the two-factor auth stuff wouldn't have released yet
I don't think I'll opt in
 
Well, that's good. The Quebec Lt.-Governor claimed criminal immunity under the logic that the Crown can do no wrong.
 
@fbueckert So, what if I were to steal the crown from England and then beat someone to death with it.
 
@Powerlord Technically, Canada is governed under a constitutional monarchy.
Although, it's more really just lip service than anything else.
The Lt.-Governor works for the Crown in that capacity.
And is basically going, "Crown can do no wrong! I work for the Crown! Therefore I am immune to criminal liability!"
 
@fbueckert Didn't the Magna Carta do away with that anyway?
 
5:23 PM
@Ullallulloo I have no idea.
But the Supreme Court wouldn't hear her case, and the lower courts rejected her logic.
So, regardless, she is most definitely not immune to criminal liability.
 
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5:41 PM
@fbueckert sigh That's special.
 
@AshleyNunn Welcome to Quebec, where personal responsibility isn't something that has to happen, apparently.
Because the French are superior!
 
One thing I dislike about Radiant Historia is that I can't jump to specific events, only ones that have the blue doors.
I just got some new sidequests and know where I have to go for them, but if I go now, I'd have to repeat several areas including 2 mini-bosses.
 
@fbueckert Where's this from?
 
@Powerlord The one thing I dislike about Radiant Historia is that I can't play it because I don't have a DS anymore :/
 
5:43 PM
@Powerlord Kotaku. But it's Microsoft's "official" stance.
 
@Powerlord Looks like Microsoft brand guide.
 
@OrigamiRobot Well, yes, this happens when you sell a system.
 
@Powerlord I didn't sell it.
My coworker lost it.
 
@OrigamiRobot Like I said, he should replace it for you.
 
@OrigamiRobot Why did your cow orker have it?
 
5:44 PM
He should take responsibility for losing it.
 
@fbueckert He gave me $100
 
@OrigamiRobot Is that a new DS?
 
@fbueckert DS Lite
 
@OrigamiRobot Reword: Can you buy another DS Lite for $100?
 
Yes, but I still have to wait for it which means I don't have a DS to play Radiant Historia on.
 
5:45 PM
@OrigamiRobot "You're American. You know the correct action: Sue him."
 
Why is that in quotes?
 
@OrigamiRobot Where did you order a DS Lite for $100?
 
If you're buying a new system, why not go for a 3DS?
 
@fbueckert I haven't yet.
 
@Powerlord 3DS XL, no less.
 
5:46 PM
@Powerlord I prefer the DS Lite
 
@OrigamiRobot Because I find it laughable and wouldn't say it myself in a serious manner.
 
Did I seriously type DSi instead of 3DS? Wow, I R dum
 
@OrigamiRobot Well, it's not really your responsibility. That should be part of the cost of losing your DS.
 
@OrigamiRobot Play lots of GBA games?
Or is it for the battery life?
 
5:47 PM
@Powerlord I don't want to spend another $100 to get a system I would use even less than my DS.
@Powerlord More portable.
 
@OrigamiRobot I guess I'm not following why you'd use it less. The 3DS can play both DS and 3DS games.
Just not GBA games.
 
@Powerlord Reasons.
 
Battery life is the single largest reason not to get a 3DS.
Having said that, I still got one.
Once the XL came out that is.
 
@Powerlord I have my own reasons.
 
Despite the fact that using the 3DS 3D effect hurts my eyes so I always have it off.
 
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5:50 PM
@Powerlord I keep forgetting I have to charge it more, so I keep letting it die by accident :(
 
(It also halves the resolution of the upper screen)
 
I'm still curious where you can get a DSLite for <=$100.
 
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@Powerlord It makes me sick - I have a lot of trouble with 3D
 
user15026
@fbueckert ebay?
 
@AshleyNunn That may work. I don't often use ebay due to crazy shipping costs.
 
5:51 PM
@fbueckert Where would you get it for >= $100? The DSi XL is < $150 now, so I'd hope the DSi < $120 and DS Lite < $100
 
user15026
@fbueckert Yeah, there are ones on here for like $60
 
user15026
even cheaper, if you arent picky about a few cosmetic scratches and whatever, but newish ones (some even in box) seem to run about $60
 
Huh. I hadn't realized they had gotten that cheap.
 
That's impulse buy level for me.
@OrigamiRobot I want another one of these limited edition ones. :(
 
user15026
5:53 PM
@fbueckert I found a listing for 11 of them, all working, for $175
 
@fbueckert I love the Crimson/Black one.
 
I have three DSLites sitting around. Two of which are new, 'cause I haven't touched them since they were repaired.
 
I bought one brand new, hinge blew out within a month, EB was nice enough to replace it with another brand new one, that hinge also blew out, they told me to get bent.
I just got a refurbished one after that, never mind that it was a manufacturer problem.
 
@fbueckert DS Lite is the second model of a system that had 4 models and its successor has 2 models, so...
Also, I've noticed the 3DS XL is $180 or so if you catch a sale these days, $200 if you don't.
 
@Powerlord All I'd really need one for is to play my flash card.
 
user15026
5:57 PM
also, if you look right, you can find bundles of DS games for cheap (we are talking a dollar or two, free shipping, for 2-4 games, usually)
 
@AshleyNunn Definitely something for me to think about, if I ever get the hankering to play Radiant Historia again.
 
user15026
@fbueckert Yeah, another way to find stuff on the cheap? Misspellings.
 
user15026
(I have gotten good at ebay searching since being a student.)
 
@AshleyNunn Eh? Ad misspellings? Or product defect misspellings?
@AshleyNunn Heh. I may want you to find cheap stuff for me every now and then, I suspect. :P
 
user15026
@fbueckert When you search, try alternate spellings - people often misspell item names and the like and those get less attention than the spelled properly ones, for obvious reasons, so you can often find stuff cheaper
 
user15026
5:59 PM
@fbueckert Happy to do it!
 

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