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4:03 PM
blue sky replaced by torrential downpour within 15 minutes
gotta love this country
 
cant be the UK then, always raining here
 
@RhysW The weather's been nice the past few days actually.
 
@RonanForman ah ive been out of the country, so must have missed the few good days :P
 
@RonanForman in fact, are you now geographically close enough to me that you heard frequent thunder for the last hour?
 
4:09 PM
@badp blind lets plays?
 
@kalina No, I got a real light drizzle at the time you were talking about it, but nothing else.
 
@RhysW When you LP a game you've never played to begin with
 
@RonanForman rain just stopped?
 
@badp ahh like if i picked up a game i hadnt played and tried to show it to others
 
I wish I was joking but we have large patches of blue sky again here
 
4:10 PM
@RhysW yes
 
ill give the vid a watch then knowing that
 
@Ben might be an exception to the rule, but that's because he focuses on much shorter flash games and he's got the wits and voice to keep the attention up.
 
@badp I prefer non-blind let's plays, the point is that you get the reaction of the LPers.
@kalina No, it really lightly rained for like 5 minutes.
 
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Q: draw 2 the blocks won't stop spinning

John showalterI just downloaded draw 2. I start a game with someone just fine. However, whenever it comes to choose something to draw, the blocks the choices are on will not stop spinning and nothing else on the screen works. Is it may phone or a glitch in the game?

 
@badp i take it that wasnt the end then xD
 
4:12 PM
@RhysW It's the end of the game, just not the end of the story by the looks of it.
 
@RhysW um? no, it apparently totally is the end of the game
 
lol @badp, wtf at that video
 
oh :L im so confused by it haha
 
I mean, if he'd holded his horse and played through the game once before recording as he went along, he could've caught up on what was going on and just upload the last three minutes, skipping the effort and time "wasted" in the previous nine episodes.
 
ahh gotcha
 
4:14 PM
The fact that his last episode is three minutes long is basically a fortunate coincidence
 
@RhysW I'm guessing they couldn't finish the game for whatever reason so they added text to finish the story and shipped it.
 
@RonanForman apparently they tried to put the game on kickstarter and the kickstarter failed, so they shipped what they had anyway to recoup some of the losses?
 
still his reaction was sort of good,
 
@badp I disagree, I don't think a pre-play through is the correct way to deal with a broken game.
 
@RonanForman but how do you know if the game is broken or not?
 
4:16 PM
@badp You don't that's the point.
 
@RonanForman I dunno, if I was in that LP'r shoes, I would've probably felt pretty damn stupid
 
@badp It's not his fault.
 
@RonanForman He still wasted a lot of his time on a game that's totally not worth it!
 
Also, what if the game was like 10 hours long, would he still be expected to play it all twice?
@badp If you consider the time wasted then the LPer and the part of the game that did exist must be terrible anyway.
 
@RonanForman Yes? Even if it was 60 hours long?
 
4:18 PM
@RonanForman the best lets plays for me are the one where the person knows whats going on, nothing more annoying than having them confused, doing things wrong and you having to sit through and wait til they figure it out, drives me nuts!
 
@badp I wish more games were 60 hours long
 
There are many games I've never finished, I wouldn't consider the time I put into them wasted though.
 
@RonanForman but this guy did finish the game, and did edit and render and upload and sweat over every single minute of gameplay
and I feel bad for him and I don't think he's going to be doing many more blind LPs himself after being burned this hard.
Just think of the people who followed through his LP and how many of those might've been led by it into buying the game for themselves. I don't think he's happy about it.
I wouldn't be.
 
Fine, and that isn't his fault, he shouldn't be expected to expend effort playing the game twice on the off chance that the devs are falsely selling a game as finished.
It seems you're saying that playing the game is a struggle validated only by the reward of finishing the game, and without the end the struggle is worthless.
 
This won't make him feel any less miserable.
@RonanForman At the end of the video he himself said that he doesn't recommend the game to anybody and that he does, in fact, hate it. It might be just the heat of the moment, but...
You wasted dozens of hours of your time in something you ended up hating?
 
I don't see the time as wasted, maybe overpriced because you got less utility out of it that you were promised, but there still is some utility.
 
look, people all over the internet are linking to him the average reaction of a poorly informed buyer who's just about to get burned. Maybe you want to be that guy. I... wouldn't.
 
nah he sounded pretty surprised, I wouldn't have wanted to be in that position either
 
News site are linking to him with the implicit message, "please continue following our coverage of indie games so that you won't find yourself in this situation! You don't want to be him!"
 
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Q: Why am I seeing in 3d?

McKayI just installed the Stanley parable as a mod, and upon first launching the game, I've got the red-blue tinges on the corner, like the game is enabled for the red-blue 3d glasses. I didn't enable this, is there some way I can disable this feature, maybe a Source engine solution?

Apparently, installing Windows 8.1 when you have a nVidia graphics card seems to result in Stereoscopic 3D being enabled by default
 
4:32 PM
Yes, in hindsight he probably would have wanted to play a game that was actually finished instead, but expecting him to play every game he ever LPs twice is just unfair and not the correct way to deal with the shortcomings of the developer.
 
@kalina and that's what you get by not pre-releasing your OS on MSDN for your partners to debug
 
@badp yeah, it properly confused me when I fired up Payday 2 for the first time afterwards
it was pretty obvious there was something 3d related going on, since all the red and green
 
@RonanForman I don't expect people to do their homework. I'm just saying, he didn't, and he probably now wishes he did.
 
but I would have never enabled that setting, and I had previously uninstalled the Stereoscopic 3D components, so I can only assume upgrading to 8.1 reinstalls the latest drivers from Windows update
 
Well, the part of him that isn't excited about the number of views and subscribers he's getting, anyway.
@kalina Who the fuck still prints red-green glasses? I haven't seen one in decades
 
4:35 PM
shrug
could have been blue instead of green
I alt+f4'd a second after it was obvious something was up
 
well, 3D glasses that work that way in general
 
since @RonanForman was waiting for me to join
 
Ahoy, people
 
@badp Someone has to find out that the game isn't finished, you can't expect everyone to not buy the game until someone else has.
 
@RonanForman fine, then the first people who find out just upload the last two relevant minutes of it
 
4:41 PM
I don't see how the blind LP would help that, maybe waiting until he's finished the game before he starts uploading, but not recording the first playthough is pointless. Because then he'd playthrough without recording, see it's not finished and then need to play the whole thing again with recording set up so he can record the important part.
 
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Q: why does minecraft launcher dont come?

berryi tried it so many times but it at-least comes but then when its loading the green bar must be filled with green right? but it loads so slowly then when its at the middle point it stops. after a while it just goes away then i click it then the hole recycle starts over and it keeps going! :( it is...

 
@Lazers You didn't pay enough attention to it
 
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Q: How do we handle changing questions after the fact?

McKayWhy am I seeing in 3d? The problem wasn't with Stanley in specific, or even something as specific as the source engine. This was just the first 3D game I played after 8.1 installation. Should We update the tags and stuff to help more people, or just leave the question as is?

 
Some people are like clouds, once they go away it's a beautiful day!
 
@kalina You should change your gravatar to a cloud.
 
4:46 PM
@Wipqozn ...
 
@kalina Oh, that's not where you were going with this...?
Well this is awkward...
 
@kalina One month until the new season.
I think.
 
@kalina Tsk, tsk, tsk. Remember when you said you were a "nice person"?
 
@FEichinger I am
 
4:48 PM
I can't wait to see Twlight Sparkle be a princess, and then start going crazy with power until she eventually needs to be stopped. '
SHE WILL BECOME THE NEW BIG BAD
 
@FEichinger in the words of the great Mordin Solus: "Sometimes heal patients; sometimes execute dangerous people... Either way helps."
 
Yay campus tour season...
 
5:04 PM
inb4 "Horrible colour scheme"
 
@fredley As if we dind't know what you're really linking to
 
@badp *checks day*
Nope
 
@fredley yeah, right
 
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Q: What are my options when I am drifting off into space?

XenoxDuring the process of turning on the field generators for the singularity engine I slipped and drifted off into space. Is it possible to somehow recover from this and make it back to the station?

 
@badp It's totally not Friday
 
5:06 PM
@fredley as if
 
@badp nuh-uh
 
@fredley that might work with Kalina, but I'm not budging
 
@fredley ewwww
please use blues instead of puke
 
see?
I told you.
 
@badp I know it's not Friday
It's his "next" game
 
5:07 PM
@kalina INB4
 
I was forced to close the tab because @fredley has no taste in colours
 
It's official: I want this game.
 
@kalina Says you, rainbow-head
 
@kalina Yeah, right, it's just going to be an elaborate troll that abruptly sends you to a black screen with white text and the white text are the lyrics to that song.
 
5:08 PM
@fredley my taste in colours is impeccable, I mirror nature itself
seriously though, blues will look a lot nicer than those colours you're using
 
and then you return to the main menu and play a new game and something is different. The green puke starts zooming out. It turns out it's a small bit of pus on Rebecca's smiling face.
 
@kalina eh
 
well, I was eating
 
and the song starts
 
not anymore
 
5:09 PM
I'll see
 
Only very silly people eat at 6pm
 
@fredley "you'll see"? Just hue shift the image to blues!
 
You'll be hungry again at midnight!
 
@kalina UGH
 
@badp I will be in bed at midnight
 
5:10 PM
@kalina as if
 
@fredley no joke, we're going to have this conversation every time I click on the link otherwise
@badp I have to, I missed too much sleep this weekend
 
@kalina FINE
 
my care-o-meter is only half recharged, as such I am unfit to turn up to work tomorrow
wait a minute
how did "So I heard you like ponies" get unlocked/deleted/closed/abused/destroyed?
 
slowly, carefully and painstakingly
you could say
lovingly
 
where was I while what was sure to be borderline-nuclear war was going on?
 
5:15 PM
@kalina it is better than mine!
 
there is no way I could have missed this short of being dead for a week
 
 
Your care-o-meter goes all the way to five?!
 
his care-o-meter has pi marked on it
 
What are you, the guy who makes tachometers for Italian cars?
 
5:18 PM
what's that all about? As you reach pi care you eat pie and recover some care?
 
@badp some people have different scales
 
my care-o-meter goes all the way up to 11, but the region between 10 and 11 is marked in red
 
@MBraedley The natural care limit is the Boltzmann-Stradivari constant at about one over pi squared.
 
during that period of time I'm exceptionally friendly and helpful
the rest of the time I'm increasingly bitchy, until we reach 0, and then I just say what's on my mind and get banned shortly after
 
5:20 PM
oh jeez wtf did you do
make it brighhhhhter
 
@fredley that doesn't seem to work properly on my ipad
 
@kalina No
@MBraedley Not iPad compatible
 
well fine, it's better than the puke colour it was before either way
 
@fredley boo-urns
 
@kalina You seriously want it brighter?
 
5:21 PM
@fredley Just use purple
so that I can later tell you you should've gone for orange
 
@fredley She obviously wants Rainbow Dash.
 
@fredley the blue/green is a nice combo, it just lacks whatever the word is that makes it nice to look at
nope, I'm not trying to turn this into a rainbow
first it was puke coloured
 
NY Jets, you just got Gronked!
 
now it's blue like a dementer is stealing all the contrast from the world
 
@kalina maybe that's his plot. You need to collect all the black rings to restore contrast to the world. The rings, confused and afraid, just wobble around in place like headbagels.
 
5:23 PM
\o/ Touchdown!
 
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Q: Best Android Emulators for PC

MMKI am using BLUE STACKS for playing android games but there are several problems with it (its speed, lagging of games , screen resolution etc. ) But the latest issue is that it can't rotate screen for emulating G sensors (as in , Where is my water APK ) Is there any other emulator which can impr...

 
@Lazers off topic
 
@kalina
 
that actually is a bit better, even though it's not what I said
 
5:27 PM
@fredley Woah, now it becomes smaller all the time
 
@3ventic ...
 
@fredley What?
I don't understand you...
 
@fredley the problem with darker is you begin experiencing issues with black-on-dark
 
@3ventic explain what you mean
 
Do you need another ಠ_ಠ to give me?
 
5:28 PM
@kalina Yeah I'll brighten up the cells
 
isn't an issue past the first few minutes though
 
@fredley The ring gets smaller when I touch other rings with it
 
@kalina Contrast is fine for me
I can add some css glowyness to it though
@3ventic Oh, yeah, bigger cells eat you
 
@3ventic you're meant to gobble up smaller circles
 
Oh
 
5:29 PM
Also there's a glitch in the bg
 
@fredley this is what I mean by issues eating other circles once your circle gets too large
 
@kalina Oh yes, I am aware of this
 
Oh, those are supposed to be circles? It's a 0 for me.
 
Your circles are really... circular
@kalina Also shift refresh, you've got some old bg images floating around
@FEichinger Me too
 
@fredley Right ... @kalina is using an evil layout engine then.
 
5:32 PM
@FEichinger webkit
oh wait
 
21 secs ago, by FEichinger
@fredley Right ... @kalina is using an evil layout engine then.
 
chrome isn't webkit anymore is it
 
@kalina Thought it was
 
@fredley ohh I know, I have the other one in another tab
@fredley nah they forked it and renamed it
 
5:33 PM
just to add more diversity to the on going web rendering saga
@fredley tbh, once you get to this sort of size, it becomes annoyingly unplayable
 
INT for TD! Sorry Brits, but this is important
 
@MBraedley ...
@kalina Yes, but by then it'll be time for the next phase of the game
Multi-cellular, e.g. bubble tanks
 
@fredley really? the next phase of the game will be 6 minutes in?
that's a major improvement from last time
 
@kalina No, this first phase will have more to it
 
@MBraedley I am sorry to break this down to you, but I'm afraid this room is not really one that cares about sports in general; you might have more luck on Reddit.
 
5:35 PM
where you were granted options but still basically needed to grind the first game forever
@badp ohh he's talking about sports?
 
@kalina I will slow down the pace of progress and make it a bit more challening
@kalina shh you. You make a game.
 
@fredley challenging?
 
@kalina SHUT UP
 
@fredley my job isn't to create, it is to destroy
that is my actual purpose in life
and you know this
 
Sounds right, yes.
 
5:36 PM
Yep, pretty much
 
if I wanted to create, I'd have stuck with music anyway, not typing
 
You create destruction
 
@kalina ... Music?
 
but do you destroy destruction?
 
@badp I'm not convinced that classifies as creating
@FEichinger yes
like everything I do, I got "nearly" good enough to do it professionally and then got bored of it
 
5:39 PM
@kalina 80% of the way there?
 
@fredley we had a massive music sharing session not long back, form your own opinions!
 
@kalina I was referring to the 80/20 'rule'.
 
there's a rule?
 
:The term "Pareto principle" can also refer to Pareto efficiency. The Pareto principle (also known as the 80–20 rule, the law of the vital few, and the principle of factor sparsity) states that, for many events, roughly 80% of the effects come from 20% of the causes. It is a common rule of thumb in business; e.g., "80% of your sales come from 20% of your clients". Mathematically, the 80-20 rule is roughly followed by a power law distribution (also known as a Pareto distribution) for a particular set of parameters, and many natural phenomena have been shown empirically to exhibit such a di...
i.e. the last 20% is the hard bit
 
mk
I duno, I basically needed to work out mastering, and that's an entirely separate discipline that most record labels provide for you
 
5:41 PM
This is getting ridiculous
 
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Q: Is it (currently) possible to share games between users on different computers?

vartecIn Steam -> Settings -> Account I now have button Manage family sharing & devices. However it seem that there only thing I can do is authorize sharing on same device. Description says pretty much same thing. However, from the original Family Sharing announcement I was under impression that it wo...

 
@3ventic You should stop playing now
 
@fredley I can't play anymore, I can't see where I'm aiming with the ring
 
Ah goddammit, the other earbud is going. FUCK IT JUST DIED
 
it won't be your style at all
pretty much guaranteed, since not many people like fast dance music
 
5:54 PM
Awesome, I have no headphones. TODAY IS THE WORST DAY
 
@kalina it just needs a good game to go with it
 
@badp or drugs and a few hundred people to dance with
in fact, with or without the drugs tbh
 
eh, I was about to suggest that it would be suited e.g. to super hexagon
 
I did write this in the middle of a LAN party though
instead of... well, playing games
 
but dancing to it seems... tough.
 
5:57 PM
and I was dressed like rainbow dash during most of the writing, which makes it 20% cooler
 
@kalina I am reminded now of an image Sterno once posted and later regretted not flagging when I had the chance.
Congratulations on your new and improved mind canon!
 
oh cool, I only have to send these things to Texas instead of Salt Lake for a warranty claim.
I wonder if I can send it COD, since it is their fault
RIP HEADPHONES June 2013-October 2013 YOU WILL BE MISSED
 
@badp oh?
 
well it was removed a month later or so.
so don't worry about searching for it, it will just be forever scarring the minds of the people who were around
 
@kalina ...only you
 
6:04 PM
@Unionhawk cake is the most important thing in the world
 
@fredley We're still talking about your game, right?
 
@fredley could you perhaps say something that doesn't have so many different meanings please?
 
@Unionhawk MeatStare
@kalina MeatStare
Microtransactions were how gaming started
 
@FREDLEY FINDS IT HARD TO GET BIGGER: DATA ACCEPTED
2
 
6:15 PM
Arcade games worked on microtransactions
Including pay-to-win mechanics
Insert coins for more life
Sure, if you're a pro you can still win with less coins, or even one coin
 
Don't ever get a job in EA's PR department
 
But for most people it's pay-to-win
Without microtransactions gaming would not be where it is today
 
@fredley True, but you also didn't have to pay for the game, only the lives.
 
@RonanForman Oh well yeah
I mean, let's get this clear: Fuck EA
3
 
With arcade machines you were renting the game, but for a variable amount of time based on how well you played.
 
6:20 PM
@fredley "Fuck EA" as in "I will defend their use of microtransactions" and "I will make a game and call it Spore in homage to EA's game of the same name", right?
 
@kalina I'm not defending microtransactions
Where did I say microtransactions are good?
 
6 mins ago, by fredley
Microtransactions were how gaming started
Since gaming is good
and gaming started with microtransactions
 
@fredley Once you get to 16-17e-9, it gets literally impossible to get bigger.
 
also, I never said you were saying they're good
you're still defending them
 
@StrixVaria I'm at 258.65 × 10e-9
 
6:22 PM
@3ventic You cheated.
 
@StrixVaria No, I didn't
 
Every time I get even close to 17, I get 100% surrounded by giant bubbles.
 
@StrixVaria he probably hasn't refreshed since an earlier version
 
I haven't
 
Once you get to 16 or 17e-9 it has a chance to get literally impossible.
 
6:22 PM
the big circle spawn rate is a lot more aggressive now
 
Which is still bad.
 
@3ventic shift refresh
You also shouldn't have dots
 
you shouldn't?
 
@kalina Yes
 
6:23 PM
I liked th e dots
 
@kalina TOO BAD
 
the dots added so much to the game
I can't believe you'd just remove functionality like that
 
@kalina Dots are going to be a $2.99 charge
 
the kalina function best readd dots, otherwise fredleystudioslimited is going on my shitlist alongside EA
 
@kalina You're right on that.
 
6:26 PM
@FEichinger I know I am
so sorry you have no taste
 
@kalina It is pretty good for what it is, but absolutely not my style no less.
 
@FEichinger This, pretty much
 
this is pretty much why I don't gnomeslice the place up with links
 
@kalina Aside from not being him?
 
that aside, it would be quite easy to spam links to a bunch of stuff I know you don't want to listen to
 
6:29 PM
Supposedly... wait... o_O
 
@fredley You really need to work on that collision code.
 
@FEichinger shhhhh
 
@fredley You really need to work on that collision code.
 
@kalina SHHHHHH
 
@kalina ♥
 
6:30 PM
@fredley You know that collision code? You should probably work on it.
 
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Q: game name request

user57712I remember playing a game on the PC a few years ago - a disk wasn't needed. It was a download off the internet. It was full of hills and there were a variety of big shapes planted all over these hills and in the big shape, it was filled with all sorts of smaller shapes and on the left hand side o...

 
...? No third repost? Ah there it is
 
@Unionhawk SHHHHHHHHHHHHH
 
@fredley I heard you need to work on the collision code
 
@MBraedley hi5
 
6:30 PM
Well done, folks. :D
 
@MBraedley GODDAMMIT EVERYONE IS ON IGNORE
 
@fredley ♥
 
MISSION ACCOMPLISHED
 
@fredley GOOD
 
With that said, @kalina, I've actually listened to the whole thing, so there's that.
 
6:31 PM
@fredley Collision code is broken! Work on it!
 
@FEichinger Also this, pretty much
 
@FEichinger A lot of people say this, I'm never sure if they're just being nice or if I've ended up writing stuff that is outside of the listener's target genre but still tolerable enough to actually listen to
because the latter has got to be like the holy grail of music
 
@kalina You should worry whether I just didn't bother to close the tab instead. :P
 
meh, you can close the tab if you want, I'm not here to punish you by forcing you to listen to stuff you don't like
it's why I normally just don't bother linking stuff
 
@kalina The second one for me, though I'm mostly a "everything but X genres" person
So...
 
6:33 PM
I mainly write stuff that reflects my emotional state at the time
for me to listen to
 
Well, at any rate, it did finish for me. Whatever motivation or reason it may be.
 
6:47 PM
@fredley What IDE should I be using for this? I've been in nodepad++ but I'm getting annoyed by having to manually indent.
 

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