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8:00 PM
@Ullallulloo I have no idea, I went to 'download artwork'.
 
@tzenes it takes a rather high percentage of the +20k population to delete, yes
 
user30
@GnomeSlice Yeah I'll have a listen in a while, working to the streets.
 
perhaps I should get a list of answers to delete? or the rep requirement to delete an answer should be lower
 
posting it in here tends to get stuff deleted pretty quick though
 
@agent86 I would suspect that is the work of diligent mods
 
8:00 PM
between grace, raven, badp, mana, there's usually someone on who can help
 
Ideally, mods shouldn't have to act
 
@agent86 By a mod though, not by other users.
 
@tzenes There is a section in /tools that lists answers that have delete votes, is there not?
 
@tzenes Wow you type fast. :P
 
@tzenes Mostly people just ping us, yes.
 
user30
8:01 PM
okay, I'll pipe down until the end of srs conversation
 
@tzenes I would say that once you hit 20k or so, you're effectively a "mini-mod"
 
@GraceNote I can't access /tools
@John only like 60 wpm
 
@tzenes You can't?
 
even 10k confers certain "mod rights"
 
@agent86 except I can't close answers
 
oop
 
@tzenes But no one can.
 
there it is
@GraceNote mispelling
 
though I see it's no longer linked at the top of the page for me
I have to know the url
 
8:02 PM
You shouldn't let the Giants of Mispellheim win.
 
@tzenes there's also a link, where "review" is, you can switch between review and tools
when there are flags, there is a little yellow number that shows the amount to the left of the "tools" or "review" link
 
@tzenes If you click review, then in the lower top left should be "tools", click it and it will change review to tools in the top.
 
suggested edits are kind of an orangeish-brown to the right of the link
 
hmmm
this is a less than intuitive interface
it also doesn't break out close questions vs close answers
 
it was confusing at first when I crossed 10k, but I've gotten used to it.
 
8:04 PM
I don't particularly care about closing questions, I care more about closing answers
I will think more about this
thank you all for your input
 
@badp @GraceNote radiangames.com
 
I do appreciate it
 
@tzenes not a problem, for whatever my input was worth.
 
and it was nice to see you again @Grace it's been too long
 
Whatever we can offer to help, let us know, @tzenes. ♪
 
8:05 PM
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Q: In order to get all the Daedric Artifacts, who may I not kill?

Molag BalIn my last save, when I was an orc, I unlocked all Daedric artifacts, except two. I could not get the "Sanguine Rose", and I read somewhere it was because I killed a women out of Whiterun by the name of Yosilda. I had the drinking contest with Sam, and I did not black out. And the other, the "Rue...

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Q: Does the class story continue after act 3?

svickI have reached level 50 and finished act 3 of my class story. The loading screen now says "Interlude". I assume the class story currently doesn't progress beyond that, am I right? And if it does not continue now, were any specific plans announced for the future?

 
It has been too long indeed. How are you feeling?
 
better
 
Hello.
 
That's good
 
@RavenDreamer new gravatar is best gravatar
 
8:06 PM
I think my bigger problems these days are just working myself too hard
 
@Wipqozn Thanks!
Preacher to choir: SOPA is really bad.
 
even with the eureka effect, it's an erculean effort to be an engineer on badlands
 
You'res missing an H. I think.
 
I succeeded setting up a teleporter on the 4th point at like the 21st try, and a teleporter plus a sentry at the 30th
 
@John I assume I would come out the other end of that experiment completely broken.
 
8:08 PM
one minute later a spy walked over everything
 
swoosh
 
@RavenDreamer definitely spelled "Heureka Effect"
 
@IanPugsley /facepalm.
 
seconds later we won though.
 
@GraceNote Guess what I spent all week working on?
 
8:09 PM
@RavenDreamer GameDev?
 
@GraceNote Precisely so.
Spent a week fixing buggy collision code. Finally finish to find... the collision wasn't causing problems - the jumping system was. D'oh!
And now I'm off to refactor something else! Zooooom!
 
@RavenDreamer Welcome to whose code is it anyway, where the problems are made up and your debugging work doesn't matter
 
@Wipqozn Precisely.
 
I have a theory that all websites will be taken down by SOPA because of all the copyright infringement from the arrow to the knew jokes.
 
@DaveMcClelland I feel for you, @RavenDreamer, and anyone else who has to play this game
I have to play it every day, and there is never a winner
 
8:15 PM
hey, @Wipqozn we are going to experiment on you
 
@OrigamiRobot I think he got that.
7 mins ago, by Wipqozn
@John I assume I would come out the other end of that experiment completely broken.
 
Involving deadly lasers!
 
@John If only I had scrolled up a tiny bit!
 
@OrigamiRobot Roast the WoF: Check. I'm a tad disappointed in my flamethrowers power, but maybe it was just taking longer because I was doing in singlehandedly.
 
It is always my downfall
 
8:17 PM
@DaveMcClelland It wasn't totally worthless. Just mostly so.
 
hm. Does the Eureka effect work in overtime?
 
@RavenDreamer On the bright side, once you get a big boy job, you'll get paid to waste your time with such things
 
@DaveMcClelland Oh boy!
Will I be able to buy a monocle to go with my Darth Vader mask?
ಠ_ರೃ
 
@RavenDreamer You'll be able to buy a lot of things you want. But if you're like me, you'll just waste a whole pile of money on steam sale games
 
then you'll get married and have kids, and go back to not having any money and having to ask someone permission to spend what you do have ;)
 
8:24 PM
@agent86 I'm an engineer - the last thing I need to worry about is marriage
 
@DaveMcClelland hey, it happens to engineers too. I'm in the overlap of the venn diagram between "engineers" and "married"
 
@agent86 I'm sorry to hear that :(
 
@DaveMcClelland nah, she's a keeper ;)
 
@agent86 Green quadrupedal alien that works tirelessly to maintain the Citadel?
I mean, maybe I shouldn't judge.
 
I did think that at some point in my life I was just going to be able to spend money on whatever I wanted whenever I wanted to, but that was a silly thing to think
@RavenDreamer no, you shouldn't judge. our love is pure
even if she mostly ignores me as she goes about her business
 
8:27 PM
@agent86 That's why I'm staying single. Yes, that's certainly the only reason
 
I know deep down, she loves me
@DaveMcClelland grass is greener, etc ;)
 
MORBO DEMANDS TO KNOW WHY THE GRASS ELSEWHERE IS ALWAYS SUCH A PUTRIDLY DELIGHTFUL SHADE OF GREEN
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@agent86 But isn't this the opposite? Like, the grass is greener on my own side?
 
@DaveMcClelland uhh, maybe? I'd think there's at least a few times in your life where you have/will think to yourself, "being married would be better than being single"
 
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Q: What is the relation between Mojang and Oxeye games?

Lg102Since the game Cobalt requires a Mojang account, but the Oxeye games site claims they are independent? We are Oxeye Game Studio, a small independent Swedish game developer.

 
8:30 PM
@agent86 There's a few times I've thought "man, I sure would like to have relations tonight." But then I realize that there's also no one to nag me about spending all night playing Skyrim and snap out of that train of thought
 
This chat is depressing.
 
@DaveMcClelland Relations. Riiiight.
 
@DaveMcClelland I'm married and I spend all night playing batman. she watches. we played through borderlands together, twice
 
love: a second coop playthrough of borderlands
 
8:33 PM
although she does find modern warfare boring.
 
@agent86 So does Yahtzee.
 
@agent86 Okay... if I can find someone to share relations and coop video games with, I might be a fan of that
 
not as boring as that water-soccer minigame in FFX
 
By inductive reasoning, @agent86's spouse produces Zero Punctuation!
 
I want to call it spheda, but that's from dark cloud 2... hmm... blitzball!
 
8:34 PM
Blitzball.
 
@GnomeSlice Nice ending
 
I've never even played FFX, and I know that.
@GraceNote You clicked on another?
 
(had to look it up :( )
 
@RavenDreamer ew, then I'd be married to yahtzee. this would not work.
 
@RavenDreamer It wasn't a video this time
 
8:34 PM
@RavenDreamer well, to be fair, it's been like 10 years. I have a terrible memory.
 
@DaveMcClelland you should ask @IanPugsley about gamer wives. I'm pretty sure @spugsley is more excited about Diablo III than anyone here.
 
@agent86 It's been like infinity years for me.
Though I did go to middleschool with a pair of girls who were all "squee CLOUD squee TIDUS squee ELIJAH WOOD"
 
@OrigamiRobot Wait, the two pugsleys are married?! How had I not considered this possibility before?
 
@RavenDreamer Infinity is sometimes greater than 10, touche.
 
8:37 PM
@DaveMcClelland ..............
 
@OrigamiRobot Impossible! spuglsey is one of us, she can't be more excited than herself and the combined ex...citedness of all the rest of us, lest some of us are so nega-excited that we cancel it out!
 
@GnomeSlice I'm not a very perceptive person :(
 
@DaveMcClelland they are
@GraceNote @spugsley lives in a state of quantum excitement when it comes to Diablo III
 
@OrigamiRobot Totally read that as, "The pugsleys live in a state of quantum entanglement"
Which has the potential to be an awesome physics-based valentine.
 
@RavenDreamer this sounds like the sort of thing xkcd would have done already
 
8:41 PM
@DaveMcClelland From Ian's profile: "Please check out the blog of my equally geeky wife (@ spugsley ), Rally the Horde!"
 
@RavenDreamer "Will you share my quantum state?"
 
@John I don't spend all day looking at people's SE profiles. I've got more important things to do. Like Skyrim
 
@John her blog is not for the easily offended. she uses a lot of fuck words
 
Fun fact: if you say it out loud as 'Scrim' in a game development class, everyone flips out.
 
@OrigamiRobot Thanks for the warning.
 
8:44 PM
@GnomeSlice For good reason to be sure.
 
@ArdaXi After you so blatantly admitted to wanting to tap me? No thanks.
 
Is tapping a quantum state?
 
@GnomeSlice Because you're MURDERING syllables.
 
@RavenDreamer dont you remember? Tapping is how @ArdaXi argues.
 
@ArdaXi By definition, no.
@OrigamiRobot That has never been contested.
;)
 
8:49 PM
@RavenDreamer I'm reading all this late, but I had to mention that this is pretty funny if read in a dirty context
"I'll observe your quantum tunnel," etc. etc.
quantum physics is really a goldmine for dirty jokes
 
@IanPugsley Stop talking right now.
 
@OrigamiRobot Oh wow, he actually listened to you.
 
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Q: When Can Different Races Party Up?

The SasquatchIn Lord of the Rings Online, how far into the game do you need to get to create a fellowship with different races? I see that dwarves and elves seem to start in a far different area than humans and hobbits. I would like to make a new character who is a dwarf and play with friends who are plan...

 
@OrigamiRobot a bloo bla blooo
it took a minute to find the appropriate Achewood comic
as a matter of principle, I never listen to @OrigamiRobot
 
@ArdaXi At least, he was, until you mentioned it.
 
8:55 PM
@ArdaXi I have to talk to these people IRL
 
Freeware Game Pick: ^_^ (ben304) http://bit.ly/AcNBNR
> Ever wanted to play a small, fluffy were-bunny who sees biting, headbutting and loud exclamations as the solutions to life's problems?
 
@GnomeSlice I thought that was Max from Sam & Max.
so yes, I did, briefly, at one point.
 
@GnomeSlice a game where you play as the Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog would be pretty awesome
 
The father of Windows NT is now working on Xbox futures. Wow. http://zd.net/w3fnVA
 
9:06 PM
@IanPugsley @ArdaXi check his spelling!
 
@OrigamiRobot Meh.
 
@OrigamiRobot copied and pasted from the Wikipedia article, punk
The Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog is a fictional beast in the movie Monty Python and the Holy Grail. It is the antagonist in a major setpiece battle, and makes a similar appearance in Spamalot, a musical inspired by the movie. The iconic status of this skit was important in establishing the viability of the musical. Story In the film, King Arthur's Knights of the Round Table are led to the Cave of Caerbannog by Tim the Enchanter, and find that they must face down both the Rabbit and the Black Beast. The Cave of Caerbannog ("caer bannog" being Welsh for "turreted castle") is the home of ...
 
@IanPugsley I dont doubt you. I just need @ArdaXi to approve it
he is mad because @RavenDreamer turned him down
 
@OrigamiRobot I'd rather you didn't, I value my sanity.
What little sanity I have that is.
 
@agent86 That's a good point and all but why put it in a picture?
 
9:16 PM
looks at @Wipqozn's avatar
Sanity?
I think not.
 
@badp beats me. I didn't make the pic, just saw it, smiled, and linked it :P
 
@ArdaXi Like I said, what little sanity I have left.
 
@agent86 He does?! MOD ABUSE!!!
@Wipqozn You have no sanity left.
It's replaced with ponies.
goes back to playing Robot Unicorn Attack
 
@ArdaXi it's tragic... some days I just cry and cry as badp beats me. I probably deserved it though :(
 
9:23 PM
 
@Wipqozn except for his cycle is in a diamond shape
 
We're beating out reddit, according to Google.
 
@GnomeSlice I wonder who at SE is sleeping with who at Google. I swear sometimes when trying to track down ITG stuff I come across GSE links in the first page
 
@GnomeSlice That's because we're awesome
 
anyone who has preferences for how Magic: the Gathering questions are handled on SE, please weigh in
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Q: Would support for Magic: the Gathering rendering make you move site?

ire_and_cursesA while ago, we had a discussion about the rationale for asking Magic questions on a separate site. Since then, the number of MTG questions here has gone through the roof. It is now the top game, by some margin, and responsible for 13% of all the questions on the site. Since we adopted the Go si...

 
9:24 PM
like 3 minute old G.SE links
 
@IanPugsley That Go markup is super cool.
 
@John it is, and makes me mad that there's nothing for MtG
 
@IanPugsley Fear not, however. "Some enhancements to make the site easier to use for our most popular game are appropriate." ~ Pat Ludwig
 
if I have to I will write a userscript for it my damn self
 
@IanPugsley uh oh, now you're starting to curse. watch out, lest you say "crap" too loud and get in trouble...
 
9:30 PM
@agent86 @IanPugsley's swearing is 2nd only to @spugsley
 
@agent86 I'll say all the fuck words I want!
 
@OrigamiRobot I will say all the fuck words
@GraceNote My excitement for Diablo 3 involves many many many fuck words. Just so you know
 
Mother Fucker, Youtube. It just made my computer reboot.
 
Wait... what did I just get summoned in here to?
 
@GraceNote Looks like a swearing contest.
 
9:32 PM
hides
 
bbbbbbbbbrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
that is a robot swear
 
@GraceNote because of an earlier conversation about my excitement for Diablo 3
 
Oh, speaking of which..
 
it's pretty funny that out of the three of us (myself, @spugsley, and @OrigamiRobot) I'm the only one who got into the Diablo III beta
 
never mind
 
9:34 PM
wtf @Wipqozn
get out of my brain
 
@spugsley That's not exactly what I was asking
 
@IanPugsley NEVER!
 
@IanPugsley I hate you
@IanPugsley in fact, I marriage hate you
 
@spugsley the best kind of hate
 
@Fallen got in as well.
 
9:35 PM
@Wipqozn yeah, we talked about it one day
 
@spugsley Is this one of your awkward conversations that are online while you're sitting next to each other again? >.>
 
@John lol no, he's at work
 
@spugsley Just checking. :P
 
they're still doing semi-frequent character/achievement wipes, so I've only managed to play through two characters
 
@IanPugsley only two characters....boo hoo
 
9:38 PM
Wait a sec, @Mana your mom worked on PIPA? But aren't you...Canadian? Why would a Canadian be working on an American law?
 
@John Clearly so she can destroy the internet.
 
@John people's parents are never born in other countries or anything, that'd be crazy!
 
@John it's a left-wing conspiracy to enact canadian law in the US! soon they'll have us all playing hockey and eating canadian bacon! the lesser kind of bacon!
 
what who what
Oh, DIII beta
 
@IanPugsley Yeah, but, I got the impression that @Mana had been in Canada for a while...is PIPA really that old?
@FallenAngelEyes Buzzer sound Nope, PIPA. And Mana's mom, oddly enough.
 
9:43 PM
@John lol, read this as "got the impression that @Mana had been Canadian for a while"
 
@John I meant the reason I was pinged, which was DIII beta
 
@agent86 it is blasphemy to consider it any kind of bacon
 
@FallenAngelEyes Oh. Well in that case, you may proceed.
@agent86 But, Canadian bacon is just... ordinary ham!
 
@OrigamiRobot We don't call that bacon up here. It's you guys that call it Canadian bacon.
 
@John @Mana has been in Canada his entire life, I think.
 
9:45 PM
@JasonBerkan That's a relief. I'm glad you people don't live under false pretenses of fake bacon.
 
@JasonBerkan We call it back-bacon
 
@JasonBerkan I never thought about this, but I'm not really surprised that Americans are just pretending Canadians are wrong about bacon
 
@GnomeSlice As do I, and I assume most Canadians.
 
@JasonBerkan The correct term is superior bacon
 
@Wipqozn You troll.
 
9:46 PM
@John I try.
 
@JasonBerkan Don't worry, I know. It is an American ploy.
 
@JasonBerkan I'm Canadian.
It's not uncommon for Canadians to call it 'Canadian Bacon' though.
 
@Wipqozn I am still imagining a world where all you know is what @GnomeSlice posts
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@GnomeSlice I've never heard it called that, but Canada is a big place.
 
@Jason Not as big as space.
 
9:52 PM
@RonanForman But just as cold.
 
(cue patriotic music) I'd rather live in space than on a world where... (music swells) the only kind of bacon is canadian bacon. Fight for your right to bacon and stop these Canadian bill-writing invaders (fade to screen with words "vote agent86 for president")
I'm going to find out if I can stage a protest where google replaces its logo with just slices of canadian bacon.
 
@agent86 Protesting what?
 
@GnomeSlice canadian bacon!
and canadian law creeping into our united states.
 
...Pardon me?
 
21 mins ago, by John
Wait a sec, @Mana your mom worked on PIPA? But aren't you...Canadian? Why would a Canadian be working on an American law?
18 mins ago, by agent86
@John it's a left-wing conspiracy to enact canadian law in the US! soon they'll have us all playing hockey and eating canadian bacon! the lesser kind of bacon!
 
10:00 PM
@agent86 Neither of those things have anything to do with Canadian Law.
 
@GnomeSlice that's what you'd want us to believe. I bet you're secretly a Canadian SPY!
 
@agent86 I would protest anything right now to eat some bacon. Thanks to this conversation I'm really craving some
 
@GnomeSlice what Canadian Law? I thought everything was settled by Rock-Paper-Scissors up there.
 
How could I be spying if I'm in Canada?
 
@spugsley that's part of my platform for president. a bacon in every pot!
 
10:02 PM
@GnomeSlice It's been a long time since spying was limited only to physical presence in a location.
 
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Q: What's this memory-like Marble game called?

k0pernikusI played it ages ago. It's probably DOS-based, yet worked under Windows3.11 or Win95. You had to control a black marble with the mouse and had to hit boxes. Hitting a box showed a symbol and you had to hit another box with the same symbol for them to stay open, like Memory. Making all the boxes ...

 
@GraceNote Do you honestly think I'm intelligent enough to perform international espionage long-distance?
 
I support @agent86 for president!
 
@Gnome No, that's why you haven't moved to America to do your spying.
 
@GnomeSlice You're the type who knows your stuff. I don't think you've shown yourself to be particularly ungifted in mental potentiality.
 
10:07 PM
You're just sitting at the border staring very hard. So far you haven't got anything to report.
 
@GnomeSlice THATS WHAT YOU WANT US TO THINK
 
@Grace sshh! don't give him complements, if he realises he's smart there's nothing to stop the inevitable take-over!
 
@RonanForman I didn't give him complements. Nor supplements, for that matter.
 
@OrigamiRobot That's silly. In Canada we settle everthing with Rock-Paper-Scissors-Lizard-Spock
 
...I actually had a better opportunity for something to throw there, and I blew it.
 
10:11 PM
@Wipqozn Only the primordial French-canadians use such a brutish three part system.
 
STOP ENABLING ME.
I just heard from @EFF that as of a few hours ago http://blacklist.eff.org/ has orchestrated 750,000+ unique emails to Congress
 
@spugsley woo, 1 vote down, some number of million to go!
 
This upload looks much better, but it was over a GIGABYTE.
 
HEy, guys
Did you hear about the play about puns? It's basically just a play on words.
 
I tried to help write a part of that, I submitted 10 puns hoping one of them would be used. Unfortunatly, no pun in ten did.
 
10:15 PM
@Wipqozn This is bad....and not the good kind of bad either
 
@RonanForman I laughed pretty hard.
 
Anyone have any input?
 
@GnomeSlice about what?
 
The link I just posted. I got Youtube to fix the quality with another upload.
 
@GnomeSlice I have lots of inputs. Outputs too.
 
10:18 PM
@Gnome It needs some bad music, like that stuff you listen to. What's it called? That's it! Dubstep.
@Origami One of them is paper based.
 
@GnomeSlice That's not a legal move at all.
 
@Wipqozn Yes it is.
 
@GnomeSlice No it's not.
 
@Wipqozn The queen can legally capture the rook.
 
@RonanForman more than one
 
10:20 PM
It's against the Geneva convention, I'm pretty sure that was a red cross unit.
 
@GnomeSlice Not with a grenade.
What kind of chess have you been playing?
 
@Wipqozn IT'S NOT IN THE RULES.
 
@Wipqozn Technically it was a depth charge.
 
@GnomeSlice its like the 1st rule!
 
@RonanForman No it wasn't... they're not under water...
 
10:21 PM
It rippled, how else do you explain it?
 
He has you there @GnomeSlice.
Checkmate and what not.
 
That has nothing to do with the explosive Ronan, it's the medium. And it's supposed to be cartoony.
 
is anyone currently getting forked?
 
@agent86 ...I sure hope not.
 
damn.
 
10:23 PM
Also neither side had a king, I don't think you understand chess at all.
 
It was a bomb, okay.
@RonanForman Take it up with my professor.
 
@RonanForman I don't think he does either.
 
I take offense to that.
 
@GnomeSlice Gnome, you had a Queen place a grenade. Like, what's up with that?
 
10:27 PM
@Wipqozn Bomb*
 
I'm never playing chess with you. You'll probably put a grenade bomb on the board and run away.
 
I'd probably destroy you.
 
My word sir
 
Actually, probably not, I'm horrid at thinking ahead.
 
Is that a challenge?
 
user15026
10:28 PM
I am so terrible at chess. I lack strategy
 
Sure. Why not.
 
I accept then! Although I can't play right now...
Probably Friday.
On that note..
I'm going to leave chat, so I can actually get some work down.
you people are just so distracting with your wonderfulness.
 
user15026
grins something like that...
 
...
So, this is why I give up on stuff.
 
user15026
Why does one have to do with the othr?
 
user15026
10:39 PM
Just gives you something to work towards :)
 
Oh god.
You know your reddit addiction is bad when you type in reddit.com, remember it's blacked out, admire the blackout page, nod and smile, and then proceed to open up a new tab and try to go a subreddit.
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Not one of my brightest moments.
 
user15026
@Mana Ouch :(
 
If SOPA passes Bethesda could take down any site with a copyright infringing comment. And I'm pretty sure every site has at least one arrow to the knew joke.
Personly I think we should get on the good side of them now. For they have the power of the meme.
 
10:57 PM
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Q: Help PathOfExile on Wine?

Jake SteeleUbuntu 12.04 FGLRX - Catalyst 11.12-2 Unity Desktop - AwesomeWM Pastebin: http://pastebin.com/38PPrfXk Launched by: wine / playonlinux installed packages: Dx9, Dx11, vc2008 vc2005 Err: [POL_Wine] Message: Running wine-1.3.37 Client.exe wine: cannot find L"C:\windows\system32\winemenubuil...

 
@AshleyNunn Not likely.
 
11:14 PM
@Mana Sure?
 
11:28 PM
Man, I love Lunix. It's my favourite OS.
@Mana I feel like making some jackass remark to that, but I shall refrain from doing so.
You're welcome @mana
 
@RonanForman And when they put up their take down request, it's just going to be a five-word message, nothing else:
STOP RIGHT THERE, CRIMINAL SCUM!
@Mana 1.5 more hours!
Also, hello, Gray mod.
Ha. My English professor.
Just emailed the entire class with "Here's the exercise you need to do"
5 minutes later. "Here's the exercise you need to do, and I've attached it this time".
 
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Q: Why couldn't I save my game after I beat Ganon in Twilight Princess?

KaylaSee, I fought him in all four stages, and in the last one I saved my game to make sure. After I beat him, the credits staring rolling, and I stayed and watched all of the credits and there was no time in the credits or after where I could save. So I thought the game had just automatically saved f...

 

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