Minecraft Talk

@KevinvanderVelden I need to compile iPhone apps so it was either get the cheapest osx device I could find or go through the hassle of installing hackintosh

I know my PC can't run it for shit because compatibility so I'd have to try my laptop

And my laptop doesn't even have an usb 2.0 port

Kevin van der Velden

8:47 AM

Then I doubt it can run hackintosh either

You need pretty specific hardware for it IIRC

Ieuan

@KevinvanderVelden Yeah, my laptop wasn't able to run any desktop env for Arch when I bought it

It can run most now because that's all a bit better these days but still

It's not exactly the most common hardware combination out there

Kevin van der Velden

@Ieuan and that's linux. That has way broader hardware support than mac os

Ieuan

@KevinvanderVelden Yeah so basically I just had to spend €130 to make an iPhone app

And hopefully get some people who want me to make an app for them for more than that

Kevin van der Velden

+ licensing costs but that's only 20 per month I think

Ieuan

Otherwise I can always just sell it for €130 unless I dance with it and break the HDD

Kevin van der Velden

8:53 AM

Sell it for 140 euros! :D

Ieuan

Apple's Individual license is 99USD a year unless I can get a student discount through my gf's student ID

Android is like what.. 50 bucks once?

Martin Sojka

Sometimes I feel like people are creating crossovers by picking any two works from a big bag at random. I mean, how else do you explain this?

Ieuan

@KevinvanderVelden Oh man I could just totally buy these things on the internet and then sell them for more, slowly driving up the price and making more and more money :D

Martin Sojka

Ieuan

@MartinSojka Tbh, the MLP fanbase and TF2 playerbase probably overlap quite a bit

Kevin van der Velden

8:55 AM

@Ieuan I know it's a one time fee but I don't know the amount

Martin Sojka

(Source - warning, DeviantArt link, potentially NSFW content nearby)

Ieuan

@KevinvanderVelden I'm not sure either, just know that I paid once a year or two ago and that I published an app a few days ago

so it still works

@MartinSojka Because a fat guy on a pony is safe for work

That title

'A mounted pony'

Martin Sojka

Now I'm sure we could recreate this picture in Minecraft with just two or three mods ... :D

Kevin van der Velden

Heh probably

Martin Sojka

That's what you get for browsing DeviantArt's "3d digital art" section for inspiration ...

Kevin van der Velden

8:57 AM

We already have the biggest hurdle to mod in vanilla so

Ieuan

Crap, my dad's PC is making a clicking noise pleasedontbeharddrive

Damnit

Kevin van der Velden

it'sprobablytheharddrive

Ieuan

It's not his PC

It's mine

Kevin van der Velden

Getthebackups

Ieuan

False alarm, it was the GPU fan

CPU is 90 degrees and GPU 67 :/

Why the hell is Windows Explorer using up 23% of my CPU?

Kevin van der Velden

9:05 AM

Because it's tasty!

Ieuan

9:49 AM

marktplaats.nl/a/computers-en-software/desktops-apple/…

That's the one I bought

Would that be strong enough to host a Minecraft server?

Kevin van der Velden

Sufficient memory at least

1.83 gigahertz might not be fast enough though

Ieuan

According to the Apple website it can only have 2GB RAM lol

Kevin van der Velden

Iiinteresting

Heck, the 1.83 ghz version comes with only 1 gig of ram according to them

Ieuan

Well I'll find out when I get it

Worst case I can just scam someone else like I've been scammed

Kevin van der Velden

Or, you know, not do that and say "Hey, this device isn't what you promised give me my money back"

Arperum

10:19 AM

@JeffreyLin That's going to be interesting in multiplayer. As you'll be able to push others from cliffs and stuff.

Kevin van der Velden

@Arperum that's how it was originally

I think they changed that... 2 or 3 versions ago?

Ieuan

@KevinvanderVelden Or, you know, get my money back and keep the device

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden Yea, What about collisions between animals?

No more 5000 chickens in 1 block space

Ieuan

Not sure how good the buyer protection is but I might just be able to get my money back

@Arperum Damn, @JeffreyLin is kill

Arperum

It would reduce the animal abuse a lot.

Kevin van der Velden

10:23 AM

@Arperum the problem is where would they go though

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden In the case of stacked animals right now. try to move them out. Or at least don't allow them to merge again once unmerged.

That way you could also stand on top of a cow and use it to get past a gap.

Kevin van der Velden

Out where, remember, the @JeffreyLin contraption had walls around the 1x1x1 meter cube of infinite chickenry

Arperum

@KevinvanderVelden Yea, it wouldn't fix current situations of abuse, but it would prevent future situations from happening.

Kevin van der Velden

Only if you made it so that animals couldn't spawn if there wasn't enough room

Arperum

Yea.

Ieuan

11:09 AM

@Arperum Don't they do that in singleplayer already?

Oh no wait you can push them in one block

They just explode everywhere if you touch them

Jochem

11:53 AM

the old collisions were only half collisions. You could still walk through stuff if you just kept walking

afaik, even in the older versions, you could still have the infinite chickens in one block, they just have nowhere else to go and constantly push at each other

Ieuan

12:07 PM

@JeffreyLin when you have time can you get lamp on the shitty server? Want to put a server uptime monitor script on it for other things

@Jochem that's how push physics in most games work except in most games you don't have a way to make a 1x1 space

user43095

2:09 PM

@Ieuan smash it

Kevin van der Velden

Atom smasher? :o

Martin Sojka

@Ieuan I'm looking forward to how many wasteland slaves we will be able to stack in a minimal room in Fallout 4.

user43095

@Ieuan After I fix my PC, which may be never

user43095

2:32 PM

howtoforge.com/tutorial/…

user43095

Following this set of instructions

Kevin van der Velden

sudo apt-get install `apt-cache search apache |grep php |grep 5 | sed 's/ .*//'` -y

That should also work

(How I install stuff on ubuntu when I'm not 100% sure what the package name is: Brute force)

Also that'll probably also try to install php4 hmm

user43095

Ugh, apt output looks so complicated compared to pacman.

Kevin van der Velden

@JeffreyLin wat?

The install is literally a list of "This is what I'm doing now!" that you can ignore. The search is literally a list of "$NAME $DESCRIPTION"

user43095

I feel like pacman output is cleaner

user43095

2:38 PM

root@ubuntu:~# sudo apt-get install `apt-cache search apache |grep php |grep 5 | sed 's/ .*//'` -y
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

user43095

NICE GOING KEVIN

Kevin van der Velden

Wait you actually did what I said?

That's very smart @JeffreyLin! You should listen to me more often.

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user43095

I'm guessing the packages I installed before conflict with what you suggested.

Kevin van der Velden

Or I literally told it to install anything that referenced apache, php and the number 5

So install libapache2-mod-php5, that sounds like what you want

user43095

The server is hanging.

user43095

2:43 PM

And that's why we call it the shitty server.

Jochem

2:57 PM

just apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5 and the dependencies should pull apache2 and php5 along with it, then piecemeal install the extensions you need when you need them :P

user43095

3:15 PM

Done

user43095

So GNOME is broken.

ratchet freak

3:27 PM

@JeffreyLin every big application is broken, it's just a matter of time until someone finds the crack

Ieuan

@MartinSojka Aren't we all?

@KevinvanderVelden Can't have too many packages installed

@JeffreyLin just do

apt-get install gcc g++ make flex bison openssl libssl-dev perl perl-base perl-modules libperl-dev libaio1 libaio-dev zlib1g zlib1g-dev libcap-dev bzip2 automake autoconf libtool cmake pkg-config python libreadline-dev libdb4.8-dev libsasl2-dev patch

Then install everything from source

So much easier

Jochem

ah yes, because manually checking for updates and hoping it works is so much easier than just letting a group of people who know a lot more about this stuff handle it and just running apt-get upgrade every week

Ieuan

3:44 PM

@Jochem I run apt-get update & upgrade every year

That work too?

user43095

4:35 PM

@Ieuan fix my system

Ieuan

5:15 PM

@JeffreyLin Get me VNC or SSH access and add me on Skype and I'd be happy to take a look

user43095

6:21 PM