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@FaheemMitha - only if the swap is used and used heavily, which you generally never want the system to be doing. A system should never have to use swap.

Faheem Mitha

@slm Ok. Well, in this particular case, I'll be creating it to be used. Is that bad for the disk? Probably only occasionally for like maybe 15-30 min at a time. To deal with a extreme memory usage scenario during compilation.

More details available on request. :-)

@slm heard back from LT?

slm

it's wear and tear but should be fine

Faheem Mitha

@slm ok

two of my four disks are a bit elderly, so I'm reluctant to expose them to punishment fi they don't have to be.

slm

nada

I probably wouldn't do that then

Faheem Mitha

1:45 PM

@slm ok. The swap thing?

slm

yeah

if they're older disks

Faheem Mitha

Newer disks would be able to cope with punishment more easily? I've got two newer and two older. Could use the newer instead.

What do you think of the concept of retiring disks before they actually die? I was considering that.

What's the current lifespan of SATA hard drives, anyway. My older ones were installed and have been used continuously by me since early 2007, though less since I bought the newer disks. I guess around 7 1/2 going on 8 years now.

slm

@FaheemMitha - I use HDDs based on years of service (YoS) not by when they fail. I regularly will rotate a HDD out of service after a set period of years

demoting HDDs is another practice too, where you use newer ones in RAIDs for more critical data and then demote them to less roles

Faheem Mitha

2:49 PM

@slm I see. That makes sense.

What set number of years do you use?

Braiam

Stephane created a new account because he has a dupehammer

slm

3:00 PM

yeah I saw that @Braiam

@FaheemMitha - I usually use RAID HDDs for 4-5 yrs

Faheem Mitha

3:43 PM

@slm I see. Interesting. What do you do with the HDDs afterwards?

slm

demote them as temporary spares and/or add them as spares to my RAIDs

I have 3 RAIDs at home currently. One for /home and one for /media and a backup

been looking at getting an actual Synology 4 HDD one though

w/ either 3 or 4TB HDDs

synology.com/en-us/support/RAID_calculator

SHR would ~11TB @ 4-4TB HDDs

I'm currently consuming ~4-5TB at home

mainly media such as digital pictures and movies

a buddy of mine and I were thinking of getting 2 of these setups and then backing up each others as offsite

I highly encourage everyone to read Shog's A to Stephane's meta Q

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Q: How does one relinquish his/her right to close questions without review?

At Why is the result of this for and while loop different? [duplicate] (and that's just an example), I've voted to close the question as a duplicate. But because of my reputation on the [shell] tag, that question has been closed straight away with the "Users with the [shell] gold badge can singl...

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A: How does one relinquish his/her right to close questions without review?

You don't like it because the normal vote-to-close behavior tricks you into thinking your opinion is worth less than it really is. But it is a trick. Your opinion is worth a lot. Finding duplicates is hard. You have to know what to search for, and then know enough about the topic to say wheth...

> If you do make a mistake, there are still checks: others can vote to reopen, and there's a review queue for that too. If someone finds a better duplicate, they can just edit a link in - no harm done. And if you realize you've erred, you can reopen such questions with a single vote as well.

Braiam

@slm that is something others should be aware: is fine if you commit some errors

slm

3:59 PM

The key piece in the reviewing process is to try and elevate those that have more experience or are more familiar with X to have an easier time in getting things to their proper place. When things are identified as dup or we close things against a canonical there is never any malice, it's ppl trying to get things to their final states more quickly.

If there's a mistake the system allows both the original party or a group of 5 or another gold badger to override. There is nothing wrong with closing things out quickly, getting them in a good state, then reopening when they are!

I see how SO is and it takes a lot of effort to keep the crap or duplicate stuff out, is all I'm saying. And it's very much a team effort!!!

Faheem Mitha

4:12 PM

@slm Ok, thanks. I sounds like you have a pretty elaborate system.

KasiyA

5:22 PM

Hi, Do you have a suggest shortest command for my question. current answers are correct but I need a simple short command, can you help me. please

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Q: How to save matched pattern into variable using 'sed' command

I'm trying to find a pattern using sed command in file.txt between first char1 and char2 and then replace that with string. like below with echo mode example: echo "This X is test Y. But X is not test Y." | sed 's/X[^Y]*Y/REPLACE/' Also I need to save matched pattern( like is test {<--spaces ...

sed text-processing

Braiam

let be dragons!

cc @casey @terdon @derobert

meda

5:47 PM

Which VPS hosting solution do you recommend

good and affordable one

derobert

6:00 PM

@Braiam Writing an answer...

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A: Should we add tag tips for the [text-processing] tag

I checked the 5 most recent text-processing questions: Extract multiple lines from text file How to update files based on another file Extract and format data with `cut` and `awk` Insert missing string in multiple ordered columns Convert XML to SQL INSERT statements using the command line Of ...

dtj

Hi All. I've been a long time Mac user (currently running a Macbook pro) and I do Web Development (LAMP stack). I know my way around the Terminal in OSX pretty well, and I use a lot of the usual suspects for my work (git, PhPStorm IDE, IRC, etc)

However, I am interested in working with linux (additionally) for a couple reasons:

1) I also do Music Production work and am finding that Pro Tools runs best without much else going on. So I am considering reserving my Macbook for that (or portentially installing a 2nd drive / partition and running Linux)

derobert

6:35 PM

@dtj Grab a cheap or used PC and install Debian or Ubuntu on it?

... not sure what you're asking for suggestions on...

Braiam

so, emacs23 will be removed from debian

derobert

If only they'd remove emacs24 as well, they'd greatly improve the distro. /editor-war

/me goes to lunch

dtj

@derobert Im wondering, based on my needs, if there are any distributions that might be more suitable?

derobert

6:51 PM

@dtj well, you haven't really listed any special needs that'd make a general-purpose distro not be appropriate.

The only thing you might consider doing is matching the distro used on your servers.

But that's really not that important.

dtj

@derobert alright fair enough. It's generally been CentOS / Redhat on productions servers. I figured my requirements weren't much but I wanted to be sure

@derobert i've played with Ubuntu some in VMs. I've also enjoyed what I've seen of Awesome windows manager used in Gentoo and Arch, but from what I understand, the desktop environment be changed as you like, regardless of the distro (more or less)?

derobert

@dtj yep

derobert

10:23 PM

Oh, and in case anyone missed it: PSA: don't run 'strings' on untrusted files (CVE-2014-8485)

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Faheem Mitha

10:52 PM

@slm What Synology product do you use, exactly?

Hey @derobert

slm

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