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user178049

3:04 AM

Muslims fast today.

Good morning!

yubraj

9:14 AM

Hi everyone!

What does "where hasn't my feelings not been suppressed" means?

Man_From_India

11:29 AM

@snailplane nods

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A: What is appositive and modifier?

Appositive and Modifiers are two completely different elements that function in a very different way. Modifiers can occur in a phrase structure, or it can be used to modify a clause. But an Appositive can never occur in Phrase structure, except in some cases where there is no comma before it. F...

It's really hard to write something about generalization. I think that's why that question was unanswered for so many days.

userr2684291

1:01 PM

Phrase of the day: on the up and up

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@Man_From_India Yeah. I think the inquirer wanted to ask about the difference between the attributive function and a modifier, to be honest.

Those, I think, can be more easily confused.

@Man_From_India In your first example (the opera Carmen), you don't explain what's what.

@Man_From_India Replace "affect" with "be affected" in the last sentence of the penultimate paragraph.

V.V.

1:33 PM

Dam has disappeared.

CowperKettle

1:46 PM

Yes, that's very sad.

I never sent him a card even.

yubraj

Hi

@snailplane

What does "where hasn't my feelings not been suppressed" means?

Man_From_India

2:07 PM

@yubraj I guess it's context dependent.

@userr2684291 thank you. I will edit it. Let me be on my desktop computer.

@V.V. even he didn't reply to my email. I think he is not even checking mails.

Even these days Stoney, JR are very rarely seen. Jim, MAR too disappeared.

Man_From_India

2:55 PM

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Q: The progressive futurate is not aspectual: meaning?

Both the Cambridge Grammar of the English Language (CGEL) by Pullum and Oxford Modern English Grammar (OMEG) by Aarts clearly say that the progressive futurate (i.e., the present progressive indicating a future event as in I'm leaving next week) does not have an aspectual meaning to it. OMEG on ...

Don't know how to answer it. Because the OP himself seems to have explained it.

userr2684291

3:11 PM

Since I don't care, I'm stuck in an infinite loop. :<

Anonymous

3:34 PM

Ha.

Anonymous

I wonder who did that.

Anonymous

4:24 PM

So today I saw a typo: develpment. It's supposed to be spelled development.

Anonymous

But it made me think: do we sometimes apply syllabic compression, removing that vowel from the word? Do we say develpment, develper, and so on?

Anonymous

My first thought is that we don't, but I'm not really sure.

Anonymous

It is an unstressed word-internal schwa.

Man_From_India

I think in my modifier-appositive answer I should have used a better example sentence.

A safer side would have been to explain a VP, rather than a NP.

Anonymous

Modifier is a very general term.

Anonymous

4:32 PM

Can you link to your answer?

Man_From_India

Sure. Here you go

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A: What is appositive and modifier?

Appositive and Modifiers are two completely different elements that function in a very different way. Modifiers can occur in a phrase structure, or it can be used to modify a clause. But an Appositive can never occur in Phrase structure, except in some cases where there is no comma before it. F...

Anonymous

@Man_From_India They don't understand what aspect means. They've read that it refers to an aspect unfolding over time, it seems, but don't understand what that means.

Anonymous

So really I think that question needs an explanation of what exactly aspect is.

Anonymous

> Here notice that my cat and Tom both refer to the same entity. And you can use either Tom or my cat without changing the meaning of the sentence.

Anonymous

Could you say explicitly that this is what appositives do?

Man_From_India

4:34 PM

@snailplane nods aspect and tense are pretty confusing to a starter, at least it was to me ;:-)

Anonymous

Your answer doesn't exactly define appositive.

Man_From_India

Hmmm I don't know what else to add :(

Anonymous

> Let's analyze the NP structure. The head noun here is fact. Both the (WORD-CLASS: determinative) and alarming (WORD-CLASS: Adjective) are modifier. We can drop it without risking the sentence to be ungrammatical in most cases. But of course the meaning might affect.

Anonymous

Given that you've used the term determinative, it looks like you're using H&P's theoretical framework in your answer. But in their framework, Determiners are distinguished from Modifiers.

Anonymous

The determinative the determines the head nominal alarming fact that the ice is melting rapidly.

Anonymous

4:38 PM

@Man_From_India If you just say something like "This is an appositive" it would be enough :-)

Man_From_India

Ah I should use this in my answer if you don't mind. Thanks.

Anonymous

Sure, go for it.

Anonymous

> We can drop it without making the sentence ungrammatical in most cases. But of course the meaning might be affected.

Anonymous

I made a couple small changes there too.

Man_From_India

Tomorrow when I'm on my desktop.

Anonymous

4:39 PM

Can I edit it?

Man_From_India

@snailplane sure. Please.

Anonymous

@Man_From_India The Modifier–Determiner distinction is actually important here. If the were functioning as Modifier, you should be able to remove it without making the sentence ungrammatical, as you say. But it's a Determiner, and you can't.

Man_From_India

@snailplane hmm that is exactly where I was having hard time convincing myself while writing this answer. Now that you pointed it out, it's clear.

Anonymous

@Man_From_India I edited your answer somewhat, please review it when you have a chance :-)

Man_From_India

And thank you so much for the edit.

CowperKettle

4:48 PM

Apples are blooming here

Man_From_India

Wow

CowperKettle

@Man_From_India They smell wonderfully. A sweet apple blossom smell

Anonymous

@Man_From_India By the way, I capitalized the functions Determiner, Modifier, and Complement. Although Huddleston did not do this at the time CGEL was published, that's how he writes them today. It just helps to make the category–function distinction a little bit clearer.

Anonymous

@CowperKettle Pretty!

CowperKettle

@snailplane If you ever decide to visit Russia, come in Yekaterinburg on about May 20th

The best time of the year.

Man_From_India

4:50 PM

I have seen an old photograph of my then young parents before a blooming apple tree. It was in Kashmir. They visited there after their marriage.

CowperKettle

I will be your guide

@Man_From_India Nice! I heard that nature is beautiful and mild in Kashmir

Man_From_India

@CowperKettle that's why the call it heaven on earth :-)

CowperKettle

Yes! (0:

Man_From_India

@snailplane reading it. Now it looks perfect.

CowperKettle

My sister had a friend from Kashmir. He visited our city. Lived in our flat for a week.

Anonymous

4:52 PM

@Man_From_India I would like to edit it a little more.

CowperKettle

He told us about Kashmir.

Anonymous

Appositives are actually considered a kind of Modifier in H&P's framework.

CowperKettle

Anonymous

But I'm not sure. They're different from non-appositive Modifiers.

CowperKettle

Today was the May Bicycle Ride

Man_From_India

4:53 PM

@snailplane really? I never had patience to read that book carefully. I skip pages, and see I miss out on important infos.

CowperKettle

12 000 people took part (0:

Man_From_India

@snailplane i think it's only in case of NP, where there is no comma between the NP and appositive. But they call it appositive NP modifier and non appositive modifier if i recall correctly.

Anonymous

@Man_From_India For now I left a comment, because I'm not sure exactly what to write there.

Anonymous

I will try to come back to this within the next day or so :-)

Man_From_India

I too will read a little bit about it and will try to add.

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