I'm more impressed by the latency there than the bandwidth

Does anyone know if I can access the internal representation of a Haskell list? asking for this question

a Haskell list is, when it boils down to the internals, basically a function that produces the head when run and another function that produces the tail when run; thus you can't compare Haskell lists because you can't compare functions

Are they not linked lists?

no

Ah ok

I thought I read they were linked lists

well thats too bad then

1:2:undefined is a valid list in Haskell up until the point you try to determine what its third element is

Oh cool it is

Try it online!

you might be thinking of OCaml

as far as I know, OCaml lists are linked lists that can potentially be cyclic

probably not

I don't know what OCaml is

:P

I might try to port the question to C++

@Mendeleev though it does look like it is comcast unfortunetly :P

Try it online!

actually this challenge is interesting in OCaml

= on infinite lists goes into an infinite loop

but == can check to see if two list tails are stored in the same memory address, which is enough information to be able to compare infinite lists

@WheatWizard Even if you had any infinite list in any language, I think it would already be impossible to tell whether they are infinite or not without solving the halting problem.

(as you can use it to determine the point at which it starts cycling)

I mean you can only tell if the are not equal, but not necessarily if they are.

@flawr You can just keep track of a pointer located at the head, traverse the list if you reach the head you have returned to the start, then you know the cycle and the period and you can compare

This only works for lists that actually are cyclic

And even if you have a degenerate loop like 1:[0,0..] you can just keep track of every pointer and stop when you repeat one.

@flawr If we allow any type of infinite list this becomes a lot harder than the halting problem

@WheatWizard: actually I think OCaml has all the primitives needed to make your challenge work and yet be nontrivial and interesting: Try it online!

it's worth noting that OCaml does store lists as linked lists, and in particular, an infinite list can only be cyclic, there's no other way to make one

O cool

I'll learn a little OCaml and maybe try to rewrite the challenge, thanks!

Unless you want to ask it.

@HyperNeutrino Not bad :P but yeah I'm writing a 3x3 visualizer for that programming language idea I posted here a while ago (lambda x:''.join(x.split())[2:0:-1])('MD XF')

import * makes me sad.

And this is coming from someone who uses catch(Exception e)

My bad practices are limited by my knowledge.

Also, MD XF is typing.

programmer5000 is typing.

Perhaps I should change the name of that function and post another update, so people who don't have the updated script don't do that

@MDXF Please stop typing ;-;

@MDXF are you just a bot that types in random text to annoy us?

@programmer5000 that is mean

The problem is, even if I reset the server to try to kill his connection, the userscript will just reconnect him.

Just uninstall the userscript

He just needs to update his.

Whats the update?

what is this typing you are talking about?

Wait! I have a better solution!

@programmer5000 Just wondering, what's the bot for?

@ETHproductions What bot?

OrphanBot

@ATaco What?

@ETHproductions In development.

I'm fixing it.

I mean why do you have it in here right now? I don't mind as long as it's not automatically posting messages or anything, I'm just curious

@ais523 If you think the question would be interesting in OCaml You should probably ask it. I don't have the attention span to learn a new language right now (I should be learning Prolog for my job and I've been procrastinating that for a while) and I'll probably forget about the question my the time I am ready to learn a new language.

MDXF is infact not a bot...

@ATaco I'm not sure if you are making a joke or just missed what they were talking about

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Okay, this has in no-way fixed it. Hmm.

@HyperNeutrino OrphanBot is clearly not doing anything, so there's no need to kick them out just yet

I quite like Autohotkey for doing interesting stuff.

I have a problem about probability, with a simplified welcome to the dungeon game

I have calmed the MDXF!

it is about calculating the probability of success, given the amount of cards the other player has placed in the dungeon

@ATaco So what'd you do?

Stopped sending the typing status of the client to the client.

That sounds like you... stopped sending its own messages to itself?

Origininally it told all clients who was typing, including themselves.

The Original version of the script corrected this list, the newer version doesn't do this.

never

@programmer5000 What??

Wait... so... how'd you fix it on the fly? Did you do something server-side?

Wait what happened (lambda x:''.join(x.split())[2:0:-1])('MD XF')

@MDXF Update your I am typing for the love of gibblets!

@MDXF You were typing forever

Oh sorry!

I forgot to update the tacoscript

It's OK, I think ATaco fixed it now

He somehow fixed it a couple minutes ago without you being involved (I assume)

For now

Hard refreshing

Does "Floridians" sound like an alien race?

@ATaco You seem to have fixed this one bug many, many times.

Technically I fixed it every time.

It just re-exposes itself repeatedly.

@HyperNeutrino They do? I thought it's the same ligthing port.

I can't be expect people to not update.

I'm really curious who was behind the "No one is typing." prank

@HyperNeutrino You could make a pull request

I think we should just accept esolangs.org is just going on autopilot mode.

@ETHproductions Who changes that?

@MDXF esolangs.org/wiki/Esolang:Featured_languages/Candidates

I think ais523 is an admin there

@Phoenix yup

Is this lambda thing a meme I'm not aware of.

I don't often respond to William here, unless provided in correct context.

@Phoenix Yes

It makes XD

And makes me feel popular (lambda x:''.join(x.split())[2:0:-1])('MD XF')

Where did the whole "(lambda x:''.join(x.split())[2:0:-1])('MD XF')" thing start?

@LegionMammal978 In a galaxy far, far away...

@HyperNeutrino Is it Dennis. None of our other mods have common first names.

He heasn't been here in forever

I have an excuse

I have never heard of anyone named Martin