The Nineteenth Byte

Leaky Nun

12:00 AM

Retina, 25 bytes, ^(?!.*(?<!:)[^:;\s](?!:))

GamrCorps

nice

quartata

@Dennis Can you pull CG one more time?

Helka Homba

Code Golf?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

pull it? he dominates code golf :P

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Finally got around to implementing all the tools for that lego piece challenge. It's 32 bytes which is kinda meh but shorter than the rest so that's cool

@HelkaHomba Cinnamon Gum

Dennis

12:02 AM

@quartata Done.

quartata

@Dennis awsum

cinnamon-gum.tryitonline.net/…

Leaky Nun

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Quel est le resultat de (+)(1,2,3)?

@quartata I thought CG is for fixed output

quartata

@LeakyNun What made you think that? :P

Helka Homba

That be bubblegum

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@LeakyNun c'est trois--parce que le troisième paramètre est ignoré

Leaky Nun

12:05 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ d'accord

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

where is the meta thing for "avoid 'do x without y'"?

@LeakyNun je pense que cette est mal--peut-être le bas chevre veut répare

my french is bad :P

Leaky Nun

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ voici

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ "le bas chevre"

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

the down goat :P

Leaky Nun

"répare"

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I'm too lazy & forgot how to future conjugate that

Helka Homba

12:08 AM

Stop Frenching :I

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

( ͡° ͜ʖ °)

Leaky Nun

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ then add the r at the end

@HelkaHomba Arrête d'anglais

Helka Homba

jamais

Zizouz212

toujours

:)

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I think it's bad - maybe the down goat wants to fix?

Helka Homba

According to Google, "jamais" means never and ever ._.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:12 AM

@Zizouz212 correct.

quartata

0

A: Print a Lego piece

Cinnamon Gum, 32 bytes 0000000: 6c07 d5f5 7a5d 9cdf 5ae6 52ae 4050 0c35 l...z]..Z.R.@P.5 0000010: 18d9 052f 0082 9b42 e7c8 e422 5fe4 7d9f .../...B..."_.}. Try it online. Explanation The string decompresses to this: l[1,1]&o;?&`p___~__~ %| ~o ~| %---~--~ The first l stage maps [1,1] to o...

Zizouz212

@HelkaHomba Depends - generally it's never

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Full explanation if you're curious

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@HelkaHomba well, yes. ne <> jamais is the proper "never", and jamais is never informally, but technically means "ever"

@quartata thanks!

Leaky Nun

@HelkaHomba It would be equivalent to the "ever" in negative sentences

Zizouz212

12:13 AM

I've never done it! Ever! - Je ne l'ai pas fait! Jamais!

Helka Homba

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ <>?

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@HelkaHomba <> is omitted text :P

Zizouz212

@HelkaHomba old-style !=

Leaky Nun

Je ne le ferrai jamais = I won't do it ever

@HelkaHomba Je ne fais jamais = I never do, but word-for-word would be "I not do ever"

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Comment télécharger make?

Zizouz212

?

quartata

12:14 AM

@HelkaHomba vous ne pouvez pas nous arrêter. nous sommes une infection

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@LeakyNun qu'est que c'est "make"

Zizouz212

Tout le monde parle en francais!

Mais pourquoi?

Leaky Nun

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ voici

@Zizouz212 pour la diversité

Helka Homba

Almenaŭ uzi ion universala : Programado Enigmoj kaj
kodo Golfo

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

vous utilisez "Fene^tre"?

Zizouz212

12:16 AM

Vous avez plein de diversite deja! Regardez voz langues!

Leaky Nun

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ oui

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

ah

Zizouz212

Langues, comme les langues de programmation!

quartata

@Zizouz212 Je ne sais pas, il y a beaucoup de francophones ici.

Kinda weird actually.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@LeakyNun @"node_modules\.bin\babel" src\ -d dist\ --source-maps

Zizouz212

12:16 AM

lol, I'm considering going to a French university program :P

quartata

@HelkaHomba I should probably get around to learning Esperanto

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

puis exécutez cette

Zizouz212

Well, bilingual, but a fair bit of French

Leaky Nun

@Zizouz212 ils s'appellent les langages, pour l'ordinateur

Les langues sont ceux que l'on parle

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Oh hey, when did you improve ,a?

dammit 24 bytes

Zizouz212

12:17 AM

Darn it... 12 years of French and I still don't get it...

Leaky Nun

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ d'où?

Helka Homba

@quartata More so that Logjam? (or w/e)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@LeakyNun dans le "folder"

Zizouz212

Meh, I don't talk about programming languages in French anyway

quartata

Haven't done any logjam in a while

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:18 AM

@quartata after you told me to :3

quartata

The code doesn't compress too good anymore since it's getting more and more random.

Leaky Nun

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Je ne comprends pas

quartata

Poor Zopfli only squeezed a byte out of it.

BB96 did better though.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@LeakyNun demandez le chevre

Leaky Nun

$ git clone github.com/cheddar-lang/Cheddar.git && cd Cheddar
fatal: could not create work tree dir 'Cheddar': Permission denied

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:19 AM

._.

quartata

@LeakyNun You don't have write access to the directory you're in

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ *demandez

Leaky Nun

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ c'est pas grave, je le peux telecharger maintenant

j'ai utilise le bash en lieu de le CMD

@quartata @CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Tous les deux sont corrects

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

._. pourqoui pas l'émule de le CMD?

quartata

@LeakyNun First is "asking the goat" second is "ask the goat"

Leaky Nun

@quartata No, you can use infinitive to form commands

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:21 AM

I keep on having to look up the french for programming terms -.-

Helka Homba

Mini challenge: Tell us a real English word that is actually an abbreviation or shortening of another less common word. e.g. pram -> perambulator

quartata

@LeakyNun That's for impersonal imperatives

Quill

@Downgoat probably, I don't know

Downgoat

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ demand the goat?

Leaky Nun

@quartata alright

@Downgoat no, "demander" means "ask"

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:22 AM

@Downgoat ask

quartata

@HelkaHomba Ooh, I saw a really good one the other day. Lemme see if I can remember it

Leaky Nun

@HelkaHomba laser

Helka Homba

@LeakyNun Good. But I knew that one :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@HelkaHomba "brb"

Dennis

light amplification by stimulated emission of radiation isn't exactly a word though.

Helka Homba

12:23 AM

> real English word

If that's in the dictionary....

Leaky Nun

@Dennis alright

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Scuba.

quartata

Darn, I can't remember.

Helka Homba

@Dennis True. But a phrase is ok I guess

Leaky Nun

@Downgoat I downloaded the zip for make

what should I do next

@Dennis Podes responder a mi cuestion por favor?

Downgoat

12:26 AM

@LeakyNun have you cloned cheddar and have node+npm?

Leaky Nun

@Downgoat I think so

Downgoat

@Quill pls halp. how start server:

$ npm run start_server

> stack-news@1.0.0 start_server /Users/vihan/Documents/Code/StackNews
> forever start dist/web/index.js

warn:    --minUptime not set. Defaulting to: 1000ms
warn:    --spinSleepTime not set. Your script will exit if it does not stay up for at least 1000ms
info:    Forever processing file: dist/web/index.js

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

carefully

Quill

@Downgoat it doesn't work like that

you need actual servers

or at least an instance of Redis server running

Downgoat

>_> I just want to submit PR with design tweaks

Dennis

12:29 AM

@LeakyNun ¿Cuál pregunta?

Helka Homba

@Quill For Aussies, what's the turps limit for driving an ute? (using slang from here)

Leaky Nun

@Dennis En la frase "mis versos", el uve suive el ese, entonces se pronuncia el ese como /z/ o todavia como /s/?

Quill

I don't know about the other states, but >=0.05 [source]

Helka Homba

And for playing a lute?

Leaky Nun

@Downgoat halp with make please

Downgoat

12:32 AM

ok?

Quill

@HelkaHomba I really don't understand <_<

Dennis

@LeakyNun No lo sé. Aquí hablamos con seseo.

Leaky Nun

@Dennis eh, el seseo es que el sueno /θ/ y el sueno /s/ vuelven uno

porque /mizversos/ es mas facil para pronunciar que /misversos/

Dennis

I don't understand IPA, sorry.

Leaky Nun

eh

se pronuncia el ese en "mis versos" como el zeta in ingles?

Dennis

12:35 AM

English pronunciation has rules? o_O

quartata

Wait, what?

Leaky Nun

??

quartata

Is someone trying to make sense of English pronunciation?

lynch him

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

linch im

Leaky Nun

@Dennis Do you pronounce the s in "mis versos" like the z in English

Dennis

12:37 AM

Like in zoom? That sound doesn't exist in Spanish, at least not in the dialect I speak.

Leaky Nun

@Dennis like cuando vos lo hablas rapidamente

los suenos cambian mucho

quartata

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Can you explain the 31-byte V lego piece answer?

Leaky Nun

por ejemplo, el "d" en "edad" se vuelve como el "th" en la palabra inglesa "the"

@Dennis no?

Dennis

The Spanish spoken in Spain sounds very different, and I'm hardly an expert. Also, out of respect for the other chatters, I really think we should chat in English here.

Leaky Nun

@Dennis eh, alright

"chatter"

quartata

12:42 AM

What word is this about?

"Mis versos"? La pronuncia como "s"

At least I think. I'm pretty bad at pronunciation in general

GamrCorps

Why is it that every time I join this chat room you guys are talking in a different language? I mean, it would be fine if you were talking in programming languages and discussing them, but discussing them in foreign languages is a bit odd...

Leaky Nun

@GamrCorps Eh, because I'm here xd

sorry

GamrCorps

no you are fine, don't worry 'bout it :P

quartata

@LeakyNun Ask on Spanish Language SE if you want a comprehensive answer

Leaky Nun

@quartata good idea

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:47 AM

@quartata if you want rep* ftfy

Leaky Nun

@Dennis This video seems to confirm my hypothesis.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@quartata oh, haha, I think I posted that in the wrong challenge.

El'endia Starman

@GamrCorps Haha, that's funny, but seriously, like half this room's population doesn't live in the USA. And the other half typically has some foreign language knowledge/experience.

Doorknob

.i xu mi kakne tavla do fo la jbobau

quartata

logjam alert

GamrCorps

12:50 AM

I knew that was coming.....

Shafizadeh

Is this sentence correct (English perspective)? "Why my app stops working when I switch the place of elements?"

quartata

ugh I haven't read anything written in it in like 6 months. I've completely forgotten all my vocab

GamrCorps

@El'endiaStarman That's true. I guess this is what I get for taking Latin. Who knew that another benefit of taking a more common foreign language would be multilingual chat rooms. Oh well.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@Shafizadeh why does is better

quartata

@Shafizadeh No. "Why does my app stop working when I switch the place of the elements"

Shafizadeh

12:52 AM

ah I see, thx

GamrCorps

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ so thats why you asked for the link to the "doing x without y"....

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@GamrCorps yup :3

Dennis

xup

GamrCorps

hahaha

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ question: If I made the top half of the X of random characters and just reflected it would that still count, or does every character have to be randomized?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@quartata Yup, I totally posted the wrong TIO link. This is the right one: v.tryitonline.net/…

I'll post an explanation soon

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

12:58 AM

@GamrCorps hmm.... I'll have to say every char must be randomized. This prevents someone from making a single strut and making it four times

GamrCorps

ok thanks

New Main Posts

1

Q: Do X without Y

Usually, it is said that "Doing X without Y" can be a trap to beginners writing challenges (source). However, I am cocky and think that I can definitely make an X with any Ys. Randomly. Oh yes, this will be good. Challenge: Given an odd integer n greater than or equal to 1, output an ex of side ...

Quill

@Downgoat basically install redis, run redis-server, comment out the if statement in src/modules/route.js, then do gulp && node dist/web/index.js

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@NewMainPosts the smart among you will notice that there are only 14 characters there.

quartata

@NewMainPosts Ugh, Cg doesn't have random

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

1:02 AM

Lol wut? v.tryitonline.net/…

quartata

Ping me when you post an explanation. I'm little sad that CG didn't perform as well as V here

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

What's Cg?

Leaky Nun

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan cinnamon gum

quartata

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Cinnamon Gum. Look at the newest answer, I made a 32-byte one with some new features

I'm hoping there's some really simple thing I can add to make it better and that your V answer will give me inspiration :P

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

1:21 AM

@quartata Explained:

22

A: Print a Lego piece

V, 43, 40, 38 36 bytes One of the longest V answers I've ever written... Àio ddÀPñóo î½o u2Pí.«/| °| Vr-HVr_ Try it online! Since this contains unicode and unprintable characters, here is a reversible hexdump: 0000000: c069 6f20 1b64 64c0 50f1 f36f 20ee bd6f .io .dd.P..o ..o 0000010: 0d0a ...

quartata

Cool, thanks.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I really just explained the improvements, rather than explaining the whole thing again.

Helka Homba

strawpoll.me/10842986

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

don't show downgoat >_>

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Inb4 ";_; Y U do dis" because you included goat on the list.

quartata

1:24 AM

Interesting.

It did give me an idea...

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Nice! Which part?

quartata

The construction of the top and bottom.

It would save 3 bytes.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Ah, the Vr- and Vr_ parts?

quartata

Yeah.

Dennis

I've checked fish, but I only like it raw.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

1:28 AM

Yeah, I've realized the majority of V answers use Vr<n> somehow, so I figured setting up Ò as a synonym would help.

Helka Homba

Who eats boar :o

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Althought this is definitely my favorite new feature.

Dennis

Boar is delicious.

quartata

@HelkaHomba I have had everything on this list.

Even elk lmao

Helka Homba

@quartata You ate elk while laughing your ass off?

quartata

1:32 AM

No.... well, maybe. Don't recall.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@quartata So how does CG work? Is it still almost entirely just compression?

Dennis

Mr Burns "I Don't Recall"

►

LegionMammal978

Question: What does IBM do these days apart from making huge AIs?

El'endia Starman

@LegionMammal978 Keep developing CPUs and their C compiler?

quartata

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan not really anymore. It's kinda like a really golfy markup language. Basically there are different modes of operation (specified by the first byte) that manipulate the code and the input. Then if the result starts with a backtick, it chops off the backtick and the next mode and starts again with either everything after an exclamation point in the code,a new line from stdin or the last input if stdin is exhausted for input. It's kinda a bit like Slashes, actually.

I hope the explanation was coherent, it is really hard to explain.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

1:38 AM

huh. That's almost like V. Golfy, string-based, modal.

LegionMammal978

> The Processor Unit chip (PU chip) has an area of 678 mm² and contains 3.99 billion transistors

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

But it sounds more complicated.

LegionMammal978

Transistors have gotten too small, I give up

Zizouz212

@LegionMammal978 That's wild.

I wouldn't touch it if I were you.

quartata

It's not imperative, at least not in the traditional sense. It modifies itself

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

1:40 AM

Interesting. So It's like it modifies it's own source code into more source code/larger strings?

quartata

Yes exactly. I think the best way to learn it is read the source and ask me for examples :P I will make docs sometime

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I probably won't put a ton of effort into learning it, since I already have a favorite string based golfing language.

That I also need to write docs for.

quartata

Hehe

LegionMammal978

@Zizouz212 Yeah, it's ~5.88 transistors/µm²

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Although, I'm excited to have more competition!

quartata

1:44 AM

CG has been brewing for almost 6 months, I just haven't gotten around to making it good until now

V will probably end up being more flexible but I think CG will be a fun experiment

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

V is not very flexible. It's only branching/conditionals are extremely hacky.

I guess it's ok when it doesn't have to handle edge cases.

Actually, I suppose it has a builtin "eval", but it's rarely the golfiest approach, so I haven't used it much.

quartata

I don't even have loops lmao. l is lookup mode which makes an ok conditional

That's how I handled the special case.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Just out of curiosity, what would the byte count be without the special case?

quartata

22-23.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Haha, same here

quartata

1:50 AM

Tough to know without actually compressing it. Probably about that though.

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan :P

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

You know, golf is really interesting to think about from an information theory perspective.

When you get a whole bunch of different languages, with different designs, you start to approximate the optimal Kolmogorov-Complexity of a challenge.

Or the way to calculate a certain value with the least amount of data.

Quill

2:12 AM

@HelkaHomba kangaroo and crocodile are delicious btw

Downgoat

@Quill wat

@HelkaHomba ಠ________________ಠ

> chevon (goat)

;_____________; @HelkaHomba y u do dis Q________Q

ಠ_ಠ to the two people who have consumed my brethren

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan :|

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@Downgoat Inb4

Quill

@Downgoat goat isn't bad, it's not great though

Downgoat

strawpoll.me/10843313

quartata

I don't think any of those choices are right

@Quill Kangaroo and crocodile? That's something I haven't had

Downgoat

2:25 AM

@quartata Fixed >;P

quartata

Well unlike goats I have several defense mechanisms

Like thunderbolts and glider guns

I'm at the top of the food chain, really.

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Uh, I thought humans were. And I'm a superhuman.

quartata

I eat humans.

(Well that ended that conversation fast)

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Yeah, you scared all us humans off.

quartata

2:41 AM

Mm, I need decimal-to-unary and unary-to-decimal don't I

Decimal to unary can be done with `p~0~ but thats long

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Decimal to unary in V is dw@"é1

So I think you're fine.

Helka Homba

strawpoll.me/10843492

I can't decide :|

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@quartata *'1 :3

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@HelkaHomba I'm starting to notice a theme in your strawpolls.

Helka Homba

Oh?

Futurology?

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

2:50 AM

Or food.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

@HelkaHomba that's a tough one

El'endia Starman

@HelkaHomba That was actually fairly easy for me. Automatic taxi please!

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

it was either 3, 4, or 5 for me :P

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@El'endiaStarman Really? What's the point if you're still paying for the gas? I wouldn't mind driving.

El'endia Starman

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan Have you ever driven for ten hours? :P

Helka Homba

2:51 AM

^

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

Oh. That's an excellent point. I've never driven more than... uh

idk 2 or 3.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I'm not driving until I'm 18. I fear that I will nerd snipe myself while driving

Helka Homba

Or in a place where you have no clue where you are

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

I am easily distracted

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ Does turning 18 magically protect you from nerd-sniping?

I think I'm just as vulnerable. I golf in my head while driving.

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

2:52 AM

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan no, but by then I hope to have overcome it :P besides, I think I can skip the permit at 18

El'endia Starman

Once you have enough driving experience, driving on the highway becomes a weird sort of boring. I often think about all manner of things, and it's essentially become normal for me to not really pay attention to my surroundings (in a muscle-memory sort of way).

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

#2 would be awesome if I could afford to buy random shit from amazon all the time.

GamrCorps

^

Dr Green Eggs and Iron Man

I'd probably build so many PCs

Helka Homba

@DrGreenEggsandIronMan #2 for groceries would be real nice

And I bet drone delivered groceries will happen in my lifetime :D

though idk about "no additional shipping fees"

(does "groceries" = food & etc. shopping outside the US?)

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

2:57 AM

g'night

El'endia Starman

3:13 AM

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ I got my permit at 16 and my license at 18. I skipped an intermediate phase - drive any time with someone else that has a license. I do suggest getting a permit because you really need driving experience.

quartata

3:24 AM

@HelkaHomba Toughie. I don't care about transportation too much, and I enjoy cooking so the meal thing isn't that big a deal. 3D printer would be nice but I think I'm gonna have to go with the cliche housemaid bot :P

GamrCorps

@HelkaHomba I know that at least in England, groceries means food bought at a supermarket

quartata

@CᴏɴᴏʀO'Bʀɪᴇɴ The best way to keep that from happening is to start getting driving experience early :P

Cᴏɴᴏʀ O'Bʀɪᴇɴ

okay :/ any tips on being focused?

Nathan Merrill

the biggest advantage with a self-driving car is the ability to use your hands (computer) while driving

El'endia Starman

Heh, I didn't have a problem with being focused when I was just getting started driving. In fact, I disliked driving at first because there were too many variables (i.e., people), so I was very aware of everything. Now that I've been driving for six years or so, I'm much more relaxed.

Helka Homba

3:38 AM

@quartata On the other hand, driving when you're shorter is harder. I remember when I was 15 and learning I could barely see the road compared to now

quartata

That's true. But even just driving around in a private parking lot a bit will be invaluable for teaching him about the physical feedback and feel of the car and staying focused. Even if he decides to wait to get his license/permit

(Obviously with a parent to teach him)

@NathanMerrill Dunno I'd feel nervous about having my hands off the wheel that much, even though a self driving car can probably do it better than me :PP

Helka Homba

there is no wheel

quartata

Surely there is some kind of manual override though is what I meant

I haven't really been keeping track of self driving cars...

Downgoat

@Quill Installing redis seems hard. But here's a screenshot of the design changes I would PR:

idk if too bright

quartata

@Downgoat Wus dis?

Downgoat

3:44 AM

@quartata stacknews.org

Quill

@Downgoat ehhhh, I'm not really a fan....

Downgoat

:( ok

Quill

I was trying to avoid using white, but I suppose ice blue isn't bad

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Q: Does (Should) instituting a bounty count as earning negative rep for the daily rep limit

In the current state does placing a bounty on a question count as earning negative rep on the daily rep limit? Currently I believe that one can only earn 200 rep daily. Thus, say user foo has 800 rep today. Then he places a bounty for 50 rep on question bar. Now he is at 750 rep. Now if his stell...

support reputation bounty

Downgoat

@Quill since the background of the icons are white, it felt wrong having a white box arounnd the icons. Perhaps no background and just any brighter color

what colors are you going for?

Quill

3:51 AM

I was just going for a colour scheme that avoids using massive amounts of white

Downgoat

how about a black and red color scheme with a goat and a -1

Helka Homba

@quartata I think Google is the only one right now really without a wheel, but lots of other companies are moving towards fully or almost fully autonomous

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A: Graduation Design Ideas

Guiding Principle/Color Scheme - Anything but blue All beta Stack Exchange sites have the same light blue design which I am kind of sick of, but it doesn't stop there. Looking at all the SE sites, I quickly categorized the non-beta computer-related sites as blue or not blue, based on their icon ...

Quill

@quartata a thing I made: github.com/The-Quill/StackNews

Helka Homba

(even if I am ice blue...)

Quill

@HelkaHomba ice blue and beta blue are different

quartata

3:56 AM

Beta blue is the color of despair and crushed dreams

Downgoat

@Quill ^?

Quill

Is my design really that bad?

Downgoat

@Quill sorry if I implied that. It's fine but the white boxes very much bother me ._.

\o/ \o/ \o/ I hit 16k

Quill

@Downgoat yeah, okay. They kinda bothered me too

Downgoat

anyone can give link to repo of the Github thing which identifies languages? I want to make one for cheddar

Nathan Merrill

4:14 AM

github.com/github/linguist

however: "We try only to add new extensions once they have some usage on GitHub. In most cases we prefer that extensions be in use in hundreds of repositories before supporting them in Linguist"

Downgoat

I read that but I'll do it anyway